The Grief and Belief Podcast

Kori Andrews and David Mickelson

Grief and Belief shares heartfelt stories of those who have faced loss and found healing through faith in Jesus Christ. Each episode explores how individuals and families navigate grief, uncover moments of hope, and discover the Savior as the ultimate source of comfort and relief. Through personal experiences and honest conversations, this podcast offers inspiration, connection, and a reminder that even in our darkest moments, faith and love can bring light and peace. Sponsored by Hi Five Live and produced by Misty Howard.

  1. Bryan Wilson: Removing the Limitations

    5d ago

    Bryan Wilson: Removing the Limitations

    David Mickelson and Jordan Robertson welcome Bryan Wilson to discuss the legacy of his son, Brooks. A handsome boy who loved motorcycles and dinosaurs, Brooks passed away following a tragic accidental shooting. Bryan candidly describes the "layered process" of his grief, including the crushing guilt he felt as a father and the difficulty of navigating public scrutiny from the media. The conversation highlights Bryan’s reliance on temple worship to find a "recharge" and an eternal perspective. He shares how ordinances like sealings reaffirmed his hope for a future reunion and helped him "hold on" through the pain. Bryan also testifies of the ministering of angels, noting how both heavenly messengers and his supportive ward community acted as a "rescue" for his family. Finally, Bryan explores how he learned to stop placing "limitations" on the Atonement of Jesus Christ. He discovered that the Savior’s power heals not just sin, but also the deepest trauma and suffering. By surrendering his burden, Bryan has found a personal friendship with Christ and a steadfast hope in the resurrection. Resource: tansee.com (to download texts and other files from your loved one's phone) Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community

    48 min
  2. Ellie DuPaix: A Plan for the Pain

    Jun 23

    Ellie DuPaix: A Plan for the Pain

    David Mickelson and guest host KC Cowles welcome Ellie DuPaix, who honors the legacy of her father, Sean Oliverson. A simple man who loved the outdoors, Shawn was a loyal father and orthodontist known for making his family feel safe. Ellie emphasizes that although he passed away by suicide in early 2024, he was defined by his deep love and vibrant personality rather than the tragedy of his death. The discussion explores Sean’s battle with perfectionism, OCD, and debilitating insomnia, which led to a mental health breakdown. Ellie candidly shares her deep darkness and initial anger toward God when her prayers for physical healing went unanswered. Through the overwhelming service of her community, she eventually witnessed a tangible feeling of Christ’s love, realizing that God can use our suffering for a greater purpose. Today, Ellie finds healing through service, hosting the Her Horizon podcast to integrate faith and psychology. Additionally, her mother founded the Stay Mentally Strong Foundation to provide resources for men struggling with mental illness. Ellie testifies that Jesus Christ knows us personally, providing an eternal perspective that transforms pain into a message of hope. Resources: Her Horizon Podcast Stay MENtally Strong Foundation Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community

    52 min
  3. Shad Martin: Embracing the Promises

    Jun 16

    Shad Martin: Embracing the Promises

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome Shad Martin, who honors the legacy of his mother, Glenda Martin. A "boy mom" of four, Glenda was the spiritual anchor of her family, sending her husband and sons to war while maintaining a steadfast devotion to the gospel. Shad recounts her sudden passing from a staph infection following back surgery, highlighting her selfless nature even in her final moments.The discussion explores the doctrinal definition of hope as an abiding trust in God’s promises. Shad explains how "embracing" these promises—such as the reality of the resurrection and eternal families—provides a bridge through the "waves of grief". He emphasizes that while hope doesn't remove sorrow, it persuades us to see mortal trials through a celestial lens.Finally, Shad teaches the comforting doctrine of the ministering of angels, specifically those from our "kindred dead". He shares a sacred experience where he felt his mother’s presence helping his missionary daughter, testifying that our loved ones remain active participants in our lives. The episode concludes with a witness that Christ's Atonement turns "goodbye to goodbyes". Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community

    1h 14m
  4. Jun 2

    Primary and Secondary Losses

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome back Jordan Robertson for her third clinical installment. Jordan defines secondary loss as the "ripple effect" of subsequent losses stemming from a death, such as changes in identity, routine, and financial security. Unlike the immediate impact of a primary loss, these cascading changes often catch the bereaved off guard years later. Kori shares a poignant account of navigating his daughters' health crises while still processing the earlier loss of his daughter, Kamryn. Jordan categorizes these challenges into areas like loss of function—where daily tasks become overwhelming—and the heavy loss of hopes and dreams, such as missing a child’s future milestones, missions, or weddings. The episode provides strategies for navigating these "intangible" losses, including naming them and finding anchor relationships. Ultimately, the hosts highlight secondary loss as a new avenue to rely on Jesus Christ. Kori shares how a sacred song brought him comfort, testifying that the Savior provides relief and hope throughout the long, rhythmic journey of grief. Disclaimer:This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health care. Although a therapist in training is featured, no therapy or counseling services are being provided, and no therapist-client relationship is formed. If you need support, please contact a qualified mental health professional or, in a crisis, reach out to local emergency services or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Click Here for Presentation Slides

    55 min
  5. Tiffany Thurgood: "You Need Me More Than You Need Him"

    May 26

    Tiffany Thurgood: "You Need Me More Than You Need Him"

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome Tiffany Thurgood, who shares the story of her husband Danny’s battle with an incurable kidney tumor. Tiffany, a self-described extrovert who loves to dance, recounts their "Hallmark" long-distance meeting and the sudden diagnosis that transformed their lives. Despite the "terror" of his final weeks, Tiffany shares a sacred conversation where she learned that her need for the Savior surpassed even her need for her husband.The discussion explores the difference between the faith to be healed and the "forest of mustard trees" required to endure lifelong loss. Tiffany candidly describes the difficulty of parenting through bereavement and the importance of being "patient in long-suffering". She highlights the power of vulnerability through a tearful encounter at a sporting goods store, where a stranger’s offer of prayer provided an unexpected spiritual connection.Currently, Tiffany finds purpose in pursuing a degree in family history work, a path she feels was divinely prepared for her. She testifies that while some mountains do not move, Jesus Christ provides the strength to climb them and see a "different view". Her story serves as a witness that through the atonement of Jesus Christ, peace is possible even when life does not turn out as planned. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community

    49 min
  6. Anairon Faust: Everything Is As It Should Be

    May 12

    Anairon Faust: Everything Is As It Should Be

    David and Kori welcome Anairon Faust, who shares the story of losing his father, Damon, in a 2009 car accident. Years earlier, Anairon felt a spiritual prompting that he would one day need to step in as the "birthright son" to help care for his nine siblings. This preparation became a reality when a tragic accident in Nevada left his mother in a coma and his father deceased. Anairon describes the "divine design" of God’s comfort, including a miraculous hospital encounter with a stranger who had faced the exact same trial. He reflects on the "Savior knocking on his door" through community members who provided months of essential food and service. These experiences taught him that while grief involves mourning lost future milestones, God actively prepares us for the "when," not just the "if," of life's trials. Finally, the discussion explores how healing requires "time and the Atonement of Jesus Christ". Anairon testifies that facing pain head-on allows the Savior to tend to our wounds, creating a sacred connection with the Lord. He emphasizes that no loss is outside of Christ’s power to compensate, turning bitter sorrow into an enduring hope for future reunions. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community

    1h 2m
4.8
out of 5
46 Ratings

About

Grief and Belief shares heartfelt stories of those who have faced loss and found healing through faith in Jesus Christ. Each episode explores how individuals and families navigate grief, uncover moments of hope, and discover the Savior as the ultimate source of comfort and relief. Through personal experiences and honest conversations, this podcast offers inspiration, connection, and a reminder that even in our darkest moments, faith and love can bring light and peace. Sponsored by Hi Five Live and produced by Misty Howard.

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