The Grief and Belief Podcast

Kori Andrews and David Mickelson

Grief and Belief shares heartfelt stories of those who have faced loss and found healing through faith in Jesus Christ. Each episode explores how individuals and families navigate grief, uncover moments of hope, and discover the Savior as the ultimate source of comfort and relief. Through personal experiences and honest conversations, this podcast offers inspiration, connection, and a reminder that even in our darkest moments, faith and love can bring light and peace. Sponsored by Hi Five Live and produced by Misty Howard.

  1. 9h ago

    Coby Rich: Thine Affliction Shall Be But a Small Moment

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome Coby Rich, who shares the tender story of his second son, Jack. At just eighteen months old, sweet, observant little Jack tragically passed away after an accidental drowning in a backyard pond. In the hospital, amidst profound shock and grief, Coby experienced a sacred glimpse of his son across the veil as a vibrant, fully grown man, providing an enduring anchor of peace that Jack was whole and okay. Coby candidly recounts navigating the heavy nighttime darkness of grief alongside his wife, Tiffany, and the tender mercies that sustained them—from compassionate neighbors who lovingly transformed their backyard by replacing the pond with a memorial tree, to a life-changing meeting with Elder Richard G. Scott, who counseled them to release consuming guilt and look forward with faith. Coby reflects on how choosing service, creating lasting family memories, and worshiping in the temple have continually kept Jack's presence near. Anchored in Doctrine and Covenants 121 and the Savior’s Atonement, Coby testifies that earthly afflictions are "but a small moment" and that Christ compensates for every loss. Through the assurance of eternal families, he shares his joyful witness that death is not the end and that their family will be reunited forever. Resources: Rich Memories Travel - Instagram Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Coby Rich: Thine Affliction Shall Be But a Small Moment
  2. Oct 27

    Michelle Peterson: Nine Days with Emma

    David Mickelson and KC Cowles welcome Michelle Peterson, a seminary teacher from Idaho, to share the tender story of her daughter, Emma. From a spiritual impression at age fifteen, Michelle held fast to the promise that she would one day mother a daughter named Emma. In January 2024, after years of waiting and raising two sons, Michelle and her husband, Logan, joyfully welcomed baby Emma into the world. The joy was quickly met with a heart-wrenching trial when doctors discovered an inoperable brain tumor on Emma's brainstem. Throughout Emma’s nine precious days of life, the Peterson family learned to reframe their understanding of miracles—noticing heaven’s tender mercies in Emma opening her eyes, sweet visits with her big brothers, and a sacred "father-daughter dance" in the hospital before Emma peacefully passed in her parents' arms. Michelle candidly reflects on the deep waves of grief that followed, navigating loss alongside her family while relying on the Savior's personal Atonement. She testifies that even in the darkest valleys, Christ never leaves us forsaken or forgotten, offering an anchor of hope and the eternal promise of families reunited. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Michelle Peterson: Nine Days with Emma
  3. Oct 20

    Haeli Wilkins: Jesus Christ Is So Smart

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome Sister Haeli Wilkins, a Church service missionary who shares her journey of losing her mother, Christy, to stage four breast cancer at age fourteen. Haeli recalls their shared love of riding horses, navigating the unpredictable course of her mother's illness, and spending two precious final months together at home on hospice. Haeli candidly reflects on the weight of grieving as a teenager, trying not to be a burden on her family while taking on extra household responsibilities. She shares how seeking therapy during college led to a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder, helping her process suppressed grief and embrace healing. This personal journey inspired her decision to serve a mission, where she now acts as the hands of the Savior by offering deep empathy to those facing their own trials. Throughout the episode, Sister Wilkins testifies of finding companionship across the veil, feeling her mother's guiding presence in the temple and through quiet daily moments. She shares how becoming more like her mother brings her closer to Jesus Christ, emphasizing that God meticulously places people and experiences in our lives to bring us comfort and peace. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Haeli Wilkins: Jesus Christ Is So Smart
  4. Oct 13

    Mike Hall: Hard is Hard

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome former BYU basketball player Mike Hall to share a father’s perspective on navigating profound grief and loss. Following his wife Tara’s earlier episode, Mike opens up about the unexpected arrival of their daughter, JoJo, who was born with Cat Eye Syndrome and faced severe medical complications before her passing. Mike candidly recounts the terrifying hospital moments, the challenge of supporting his wife and four older children, and the sacred final hours spent saying goodbye to his daughter. He shares the quiet weight fathers often carry when trying to remain strong for their families, reflecting on how JoJo's brief mortal journey taught their family deep lessons in selflessness, love, and unity. Offering a compassionate outlook on sorrow, Mike emphasizes that "hard is hard" and cautions against comparing one trial to another. Grounded in his convert testimony, he shares his unshakable faith in eternal families and the Atonement of Jesus Christ, looking forward with joyful anticipation to the day he holds a healthy JoJo once again. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Mike Hall: Hard is Hard
  5. Oct 6

    Collin Bingham: Don't You Quit

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome Collin Bingham, who shares the inspiring life and legacy of his father—a hardworking Idaho farmer who passed away from kidney cancer when Collin was seventeen. Collin recounts how his father’s gentle guidance and three core maxims—"I still love you," "Just keep smiling," and "Don't you quit"—became a spiritual anchor for him, even saving his life during his darkest moments on the day his father passed away. The conversation highlights how heaven orchestrates quiet miracles through loss. Collin shares the remarkable story of feeling spiritually prompted to graduate high school early and serve a mission, leading to a chance encounter in an airport with a grieving woman that ultimately introduced him to his wife, Kaylee. He also discusses turning outward after his loss by reaching out to a young boy facing the same tragedy, demonstrating the healing power of serving others in grief. Collin concludes with a profound testimony of Jesus Christ, testifying that the Savior’s Atonement is intensely personal and individual. Drawing on the example of Christ weeping with Mary and Martha, Collin reminds listeners that sometimes the greatest comfort we can offer those who mourn is simply sitting with them in their pain and letting them know they are loved. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Collin Bingham: Don't You Quit
  6. Sep 29

    Scott Mark: He'll Show Us How to Breathe Again

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome Scott Mark—a devoted husband, father, bishop, and ultra-runner—to share the poignant story of his sister, Tiffany, and her 22-month-old son, Mark. Described as his closest companion growing up, Tiffany was a vibrant, multi-talented athlete whose life was tragically cut short in a car accident on the final day of Scott's mission in Honduras. Scott candidly recalls the heartbreaking moment in his mission president’s office when the Spirit gently delivered the news before words were even spoken. Returning home to a grieving family, he found the spiritual strength to give his mission farewell talk and testify of the plan of salvation, leaning into scriptural promises and the reality of the resurrection. Years later, as a newly ordained bishop, Scott experienced a flood of long-suppressed tears and a deepened capacity for Christlike empathy. He testifies that grief refined his ability to minister to his flock, witnessing that through the Savior’s Atonement, sudden loss can transform into lasting hope, peace, and eternal connection across the veil. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Scott Mark: He'll Show Us How to Breathe Again
  7. Sep 22

    Brent L. Top: Your Questions Answered, Episode 3

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome back former BYU religious education professor Brent L. Top for a comforting discussion on navigating silence from behind the veil. In this episode, the hosts ask what restored gospel teachings and near-death accounts reveal about how our departed loved ones communicate with us and remain aware of our daily lives. Addressing this question, Brother Top explains that communication primarily occurs through the spirit of revelation speaking gently to our minds and hearts. The conversation explores whether departed family members receive divine assignments to watch over us, drawing a tender parallel to parents supporting a child serving a mission. Brother Top also shares personal moments of feeling his parents' quiet encouragement during major life milestones. Finally, Kori and David ask what specific doctrines or experiences can help alleviate personal anxiety about our own eventual passing. Brother Top highlights Joseph Smith’s vision of the resurrection, the joyful promise of mothers raising departed children, and the doctrine of rest. He concludes by testifying that holding to the iron rod enables us to taste the ultimate sweetness of the Savior's love. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Brent L. Top: Your Questions Answered, Episode 3
  8. Sep 15

    Brent L. Top: Your Questions Answered, Episode 2

    David Mickelson and Kori Andrews welcome back former BYU religious education professor Brent L. Top for a deep dive into listener questions about mental health, physical struggles, and the spirit world. The hosts ask what happens to physical addictions and mental impairments after death, whether spirits remember harsh words spoken during mental decline, and if those who die suddenly or tragically experience fear or suffering in their final moments. Shifting to temple worship, the interview explores how temple covenants unlock angelic ministry in our daily lives. The hosts ask how vicarious temple ordinances impact spirits directly—specifically whether receiving ordinances moves someone from spirit prison to spirit paradise. Brother Top offers comforting perspectives on the "doctrine of anticipation" and shares an illuminating analogy comparing the spirit world's diverse states to a vibrant city. Finally, Kori and David inquire about daily life in the spirit world, asking if the church is organized similarly to earth and how time functions beyond mortality. Brother Top explains that earthly life is patterned after spiritual realities and emphasizes that spirits never run out of time or chances, only desire. Through every question, Brother Top highlights a loving Savior whose Atonement brings ultimate healing, peace, and hope. Follow along on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook Community⁠

    Brent L. Top: Your Questions Answered, Episode 2
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Grief and Belief shares heartfelt stories of those who have faced loss and found healing through faith in Jesus Christ. Each episode explores how individuals and families navigate grief, uncover moments of hope, and discover the Savior as the ultimate source of comfort and relief. Through personal experiences and honest conversations, this podcast offers inspiration, connection, and a reminder that even in our darkest moments, faith and love can bring light and peace. Sponsored by Hi Five Live and produced by Misty Howard.

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