In this powerful continuation of last week’s conversation, Jennifer Taylor and Tava Baird dive deeper into Samael’s teachings on time slipping, liminal travel, multidimensional movement, and energetic discernment. What began as a discussion about uncontrolled journeying evolves into a practical and deeply compassionate guide for those who feel they naturally move between realms, experience altered states, travel energetically in dreams, or struggle with feeling fully embodied in everyday life. Following another unexpectedly immersive energetic transmission from Jennifer, Samael delivers a series of clear “bullet points” for travelers between worlds — guidance meant to help listeners remain grounded, sovereign, and safe while navigating liminal spaces. Together, Jenn and Tava explore: The signs of uncontrolled time slippingWhy liminal travel can become addictiveThe role of sleep deprivation, substances, psychic environments, and trauma in opening altered statesWhy highly sensitive people often absorb energetic “dust bunnies”Calling in guardians, guides, and gatekeepers before journeyingWhy Samael says: “Do not journey alone.”The importance of grounding practices, routines, and grounded peopleThe sacred role of “natural grounders” in spiritual communitiesHow music itself can trigger altered states and energetic travelDream journaling, mindfulness, and calling your energy backWhy identity built entirely around spiritual gifts can become destabilizingEnergetic boundaries, discernment, and self-worthThe difference between service and self-sacrificeHow physical-world boundary issues often mirror energetic onesWorking with Archangel Michael, Elen of the Ways, Hecate, Persephone, Azrael, and other liminal guardianssample of Samael's guidance provided in this episode: “There must be someone at the center of the traveling to decide yes and no. Otherwise, you will become a victim.”Jenn and Tava discuss how spiritual abilities can sometimes become intertwined with identity, trauma, chaos, or self-worth — and why true sovereignty requires remembering that who you are is far greater than the gifts you possess. ⚠️ Please Note: This episode contains another deep energetic sound transmission with periods of silence during active energetic work. Jennifer strongly advises listeners not to listen while driving or operating machinery. The episode closes with “Peace and Release” to help listeners clear lingering energetic residue and return gently and fully to the present moment. Please remember this podcast is for inspiration, reflection, and entertainment only, and is not medical, psychological, or professional advice. We are two friends sharing personal experiences and evolving perspectives as we learn and grow. This is not a substitute for your own discernment, inner wisdom, or qualified professional guidance. Take what resonates, trust your intuition, and seek licensed support when needed, always honoring your own inner knowing and personal truth. Thank you joining us today, you are a valued member of our tribe! If you are enjoying the podcast, please consider telling your friends and sharing it on social media. We would greatly appreciate your support in helping us reach others and spread our messages of worth, openness and exploration. Connect with your Hosts! Tava Baird: tavabaird.com or https://darkflowerbooks.etsy.com. Jennifer Taylor: Amnivara (previously Willow Ridge Reiki and Healing Arts) https://www.Amnivara.com/