The Relocated South African | Emigration stories

Jan Hugo - Emigration stories expert
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The show for navigating emigration from South Africa for a better future. Join host Jan Hugo as he shares authentic emigration stories from South Africans who've taken the leap. You'll hear about what drove their decision to leave, the mistakes they made, and how they've built new lives abroad. We'll explore everything from the emotional reality of leaving friends and family behind, to the challenges of emigrating to a foreign country. Relocating isn't always simple, but this show will provide you with the certainty, practical information and support to make the whole process easier.

  1. 4D AGO

    Cape Town to Copenhagen with Kurt De Bique - Ep 52

    In this episode I speak with Kurt De Bique, a South African who has made the significant transition from Cape Town to Copenhagen.  Kurt shares his journey, detailing his upbringing in Cape Town, the pivotal moments that led to his family's decision to emigrate, and the challenges they faced during the relocation process.  He reflects on the emotional farewells to family and friends, the cultural adjustments, and the practicalities of settling into a new country, including housing, schooling, and the cost of living in Denmark. Kurt emphasises the importance of resilience and adaptability in the face of change, noting that while the move was not without its difficulties, it has also brought about personal and professional growth for both him and his wife.  He discusses the role of faith in their decision-making process and how it has provided a sense of stability amidst the uncertainties of relocation.  The conversation also touches on the joys of exploring Europe, the differences in lifestyle, and the unique experiences that come with living abroad, ultimately highlighting the enriching journey of embracing a new life while cherishing the roots left behind. Kurt De Bique “It's not for the faint-hearted." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest 01:09 Kurt's Background and Early Life in Cape Town 05:08 The Decision to Move to Copenhagen 08:57 Challenges of Relocation and Family Dynamics 15:38 The Role of Faith in the Journey 20:15 Living Conditions and Cost of Living in Denmark 26:37 Coping with the Weather and Language Barriers 32:13 Healthcare and Taxes in Denmark 42:17 Professional Growth and Opportunities Abroad 50:55 What They Miss About South Africa 53:31 Closing Thoughts and Reflections Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    48 min

  2. MAR 2

    Life in Ukraine: A South African's Perspective with John Pereira-EP 51

    In this episode, I speak with John Pereira, a South African living in Ukraine. We explore his journey from South Africa to the UK at age 20 and eventually to Ukraine.  John shares his experiences in the British Armed Forces, his deployment to Iraq and Afghanistan, and his life in Ukraine during the ongoing conflict.  He moved from Kyiv to Lviv due to the ongoing conflict in Kyiv. He discusses cultural insights, economic comparisons, and the challenges of living in a war-torn country.  John also reflects on his visit to South Africa and offers advice for young South Africans regarding financial education and opportunities abroad. John Pereira: “ I wish I saved more” Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to John Pereira and his journey from South Africa to Ukraine02:16 - John's early life in Kempton Park and move to the UK in 200403:23 - Working as a labourer and medical trials in London04:50 - Joining the British Army and deployment to Iraq and Afghanistan10:26 - Experiences in Iraq’s Basra and Helmand Province12:00 - The reality of war: casualties, survival, and combat13:00 - Transition to civilian life and life in Scotland as a bouncer and entrepreneur15:21 - Moving to Ukraine for holiday and decision to settle16:19 - Life in Kyiv before the full-scale invasion18:36 - The full-scale invasion: early days, chaos, and resilience20:02 - Power outages, infrastructure attacks, and the ongoing war22:12 - Comparing corruption and societal structures in Ukraine and South Africa23:28 - Living in Lviv: culture, architecture, and local atmosphere25:46 - Marshal law, military drafts, and the impact on daily life27:45 - Community involvement, volunteering, and safety measures30:14 - Ukrainian cuisine, hospitality, and cultural norms33:31 - Ukrainians' friendliness, language, and cultural nuances36:41 - Cost of living, salaries, and the IT sector's growth in Ukraine40:02 - Healthcare system, hospitals, and medical services during wartime43:11 - Weather adaptation and the Ukrainian lifestyle in winter45:32 - Clothing, winter gear, and Ukrainian customs47:33 - Travel routes into Ukraine: Warsaw, Krakow, Budapest, and border challenges48:36 - Returning briefly to South Africa: perceptions and realities50:17 - Future prospects for South Africans abroad and John's views on governance John is very active on TikTok using the handle @diary_safa_john_travel. Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    52 min

  3. FEB 23

    Emigration from South Africa, a different view with Dr Mario Denton - Ep 50

    In this conversation, I speak with Dr. Mario Denton a world renowned coach and speaker. He shares his insights on immigration, personal growth, and the emotional challenges faced by South Africans considering moving abroad.  He discusses the importance of understanding one's purpose, the emotional costs of immigration, and the need for support networks.  Dr. Denton emphasises that immigration is not a selfish decision but rather a complex choice influenced by various factors, including personal growth opportunities and family dynamics.  He also highlights the significance of emotional intelligence in navigating these challenges and encourages individuals to seek guidance in their decision-making process. According to Dr Denton not everyone is a candidate for emigration-self-awareness is key. Dr “Mario Denton: "You are the CEO of your own life." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Immigration and Personal Growth 03:09 Dr. Mario Denton's Background and Experience 05:51 Perspectives on Immigration: Selfishness vs. Opportunity 09:03 Emotional and Mindset Challenges in South Africa 11:52 Who Should and Should Not Immigrate? 14:50 Coping with Trauma and Emotional Challenges 17:46 The Role of Parents in Supporting Immigrants 20:58 Maintaining Family Connections Across Borders 24:04 The Costs of Immigration: Emotional and Financial 26:39 Future Considerations for Families in South Africa 27:32 Navigating Life Abroad: Opportunities and Challenges 28:51 Coping with Loneliness: The Emotional Toll of Distance 31:13 The Importance of Sharing: Building Support Networks 33:48 South Africa's Future: Balancing Hope and Reality 38:40 Exploring Opportunities: To Stay or To Go? 41:48 Understanding Disengagement: The Path from Engagement to Disconnection 48:36 Finding Purpose: Aligning Life Choices with Personal Values Contact Dr Denton at www.drmariodenton.com. Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    50 min

  4. FEB 16

    From South Africa to New Zealand with Abré Van Wyk (KarooKiwi) -Ep 49

    In this episode, I speak with Abré Van Wyk the host of the KarooKiwi podcast about his personal story of moving from South Africa to Hamilton, New Zealand. He highlights the immigration process, community integration, and the realities of living abroad.  We explore his insights on setting up a business, cultural differences, and maintaining connections with South Africa.  We discuss building community and networks in New Zealand and the inspiration behind the Karookiwi podcast. He shares some sound advice for anyone considering emigration. Abré gives us a bit of insight into the cost of living in New Zealand versus South Africa and Australia. He also stresses how important it is to maintain mental health and faith while abroad. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Abré’s story and podcast 04:10 - Deciding to move to New Zealand after visiting family 07:12 - The role of family and community in expatriation 08:36 - Origins and goals of the KarooKiwi podcast 10:03 - Guests and topics featured on KarooKiwi podcast 16:39 - Comparing New Zealand and Australia for emigrants 17:40 - Meeting South Africans and social integration 18:45 - Local social customs and community life 20:13 - Challenges of household help and day-to-day living 22:08 - Travel and flight times back to South Africa 23:26 - Reflections on the past year and lessons learned 25:24 - Healthcare in New Zealand: access and costs 29:14 - Tax residency and maintaining South African links 32:16 - What Aubrey would ship from South Africa today 33:42 - Local faith communities and church life in New Zealand 37:23 - Closing remarks and future collaborations The KarooKiwi website is www.karookiwi.com. Abré is also active on LinkedIn and other social media. Contact Abré at info@karookiwi.com. Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    38 min

  5. FEB 9

    Navigating tragedy and multiple relocations to the US with Danie Brink-Ep 48

    In episode 48, I  interview Danie Brink, a South African math teacher who has navigated multiple relocations to the US.  Danie shares his journey from South Africa to the US, discussing his teaching experiences, the challenges of immigration, and the importance of education.  He also highlights his charity work, Stepping Into Grace, born out of a family tragedy, which provides prosthetic limbs to those in need in South Africa.  The conversation touches on the realities of life in the US, including the cost of living, community engagement, and the emotional aspects of leaving one's home country. He discusses moving from being a teacher at the prestigious Pretoria Boys High to almost starting over in America. His wife homeschools the children and he discusses his views on homeschooling as a teacher himself. We discuss the cost of living in the US which can be manageable for teachers, especially dual-income families. He suggests that Immigrants should consider trying life in a new country, as they can always return if needed, as they have proven. Danie Brink: “We are where God wants us now." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest 01:10 Danie’s Background and Journey to the U.S. 07:05 Graduate Studies and Immigration Insights 13:40 The Impact of a Tragic Accident 17:08 Establishing a Nonprofit for Prosthetics 19:10 Life in Georgia and Cultural Connections 25:28 Homeschooling Philosophy and Practices 40:03 A morning run discussion 47:22 American friendships The charity which provides prosthetic limbs can be found at www.steppingintograce.com. Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    54 min

  6. FEB 2

    Navigating emerging markets to living in Norway with Nicholas Kühne-Ep 47

    In Episode 47 I speak with Nichola Kühne a South African brand specialist and founder of “From Startup to Wunderbrand” podcast. Nicholas talks about his early life in South Africa, his professional journey in branding and marketing and the adjustments he and his family have made in Norway. The discussion touches on cultural integration, the South African identity abroad, and the importance of community.  Nicholas also reflects on the work ethic of South Africans and offers valuable advice for those considering immigration.  The conversation concludes with insights on personal growth and the joys of living in a new country. He encourages others to embrace their strengths rather than focus on weaknesses. Nicholas believes in the value of community and making connections in a new country. He shares insights on the importance of integrating into the local culture. Nicholas advises future immigrants to consider Scandinavia for its quality of life. He expresses gratitude for his journey and the opportunities it has provided. Nicholas Kühne: “Norway is a play-play land." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Journey 02:41 Nicholas's Background and Early Life 05:35 Career Path and Experiences in Africa 08:24 Emigration to Malaysia and Its Challenges 11:00 Transition to Norway and Cultural Adjustments 13:42 Social Dynamics and Community in Norway 16:26 Navigating Identity as an Expat 19:05 Reflections on South African Heritage 21:40 Business Ventures and Podcasting Journey 24:32 Advice for New Immigrants 30:50 Building Brands for Emerging Markets 38:01 Focusing on Strengths Over Weaknesses 41:38 The South African Work Ethic Abroad 48:24 Navigating Business and Tax in Norway 54:35 Embracing Life in Norway Nicholas’ podcast is available on all platforms as From Startup to Wunderbrand. His website is: https://www.kuhne.no/ Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    1h 2m

  7. JAN 26

    Three times emigrant to successful travel blogger with Reeva Cutting-Ep 46

    In this episode, I speak with Reeva Cutting, a South African expat living in Perth, Australia.  Reeva shares her journey of immigration, the challenges of moving with family, and the importance of mental health and support systems.  Emigrating three times and finally finding her home in Perth Western Australia, reeva has a wealth of information and advice that she shares in the discussion. We discuss the financial considerations for immigrants, cultural adjustments, and the reflections on life as an expat.  Reeva emphasises the need for commitment when relocating and offers valuable advice for those considering immigration. Reeva Cutting: “Be prepared to change your plan." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Immigration and Blogging 03:02 Reeva's Immigration Journey 05:49 Challenges of Moving with Family 08:59 Navigating Work and Mental Health 11:53 Financial Considerations for Immigrants 14:50 Cultural Adjustments and Support Systems 17:48 Life in Australia vs. South Africa 20:37 Reflections on Expat Life 23:54 Advice for Prospective Immigrants Reeva´s website is www.proudlysouthafricaninperth.com and she is on Facebook as “Proudly South African in Perth” and you can contact her at howzit@proudlysouthafricaninperth.com. Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    30 min

  8. JAN 19

    From Athlone to Sweden a journey of growth with Wendy Carlsson-Ep45

    In this episode, I speak  with Wendy Carlsson, a South African who relocated to Sweden.  Wendy shares her journey from growing up in a coloured community in Cape Town to adapting to life in Sweden. She shares her experiences with cultural differences, starting a business, and the challenges of being away from her family.  She reflects on the beauty of her new life while also expressing the emotional complexities of leaving her homeland.  Wendy offers insights into the cost of living in Sweden, the importance of community, and advice for young South Africans considering emigration. She makes a point to travel back home regularly to see her family. Wendy Carlsson: "Life in Sweden has been wonderful, perfect growth for me in that in a world where you don't have to worry about safety,"  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Journey 02:49 Wendy's Background and Early Life 11:51 Life in Sweden: A New Beginning 13:06 Starting a Business in Sweden 15:05 Adapting to Swedish Winters 17:11 Cultural Differences and Food 20:01 Reflections on South Africa 23:26 Cost of Living and Community 28:31 Advice for Young South Africans 33:15 Conclusion and Future Aspirations Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at jan@therelocatedsouthafrican.com

    33 min
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The show for navigating emigration from South Africa for a better future. Join host Jan Hugo as he shares authentic emigration stories from South Africans who've taken the leap. You'll hear about what drove their decision to leave, the mistakes they made, and how they've built new lives abroad. We'll explore everything from the emotional reality of leaving friends and family behind, to the challenges of emigrating to a foreign country. Relocating isn't always simple, but this show will provide you with the certainty, practical information and support to make the whole process easier.

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