This Was Supposed to be Easy Podcast

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Your go-to podcast for connection, joy, and a good dose of laughter. Hosted by 2 friends who’ve seen enough of life to know that it’s never as simple as it sounds (or looks), each conversation celebrates the diverse journeys we travel — the moments of bravery, the strength we didn’t know we had, and the joy we find along the way. Because let’s be honest: life is full of things that were supposed to be easy…but turned out to be harder (and definitely funnier) than we thought. This is Amy & Cheryl ~ and if it were easy, we wouldn’t be here.

  1. Aug 12

    S2 Episode 72: We Wonder If Including Intuition, Spirituality, and Even Angels into Our Logical Lives Is Supposed to Be Easy with Dr. Michelle Burkhard

    What happens when a deeply logical researcher, educator, and leadership coach begins seeing angels? In this episode, Amy and Cheryl take a joyful step into what they lovingly call “the woo-woo” with their friend and guest, Dr. Michelle Burkhard. Together, they explore intuition, spiritual connection, personal freedom, and the possibility that the logical and spiritual parts of our lives may not be as separate as we sometimes believe. Michelle shares how her experiences with angels began unexpectedly during a challenging season in her life. What initially felt frightening and confusing eventually became an important part of how she understands situations, supports others, and approaches her work as a coach and leader. About Our Guest Dr. Michelle Burkhard is the founder of Grow By 1 and brings a rich background in education, assessment, evaluation, accountability, leadership development, coaching, and organizational change. She is an author, speaker, coach, researcher, and intuitive practitioner who believes that people do not need to separate the logical, emotional, professional, and spiritual parts of themselves. Her work brings these elements together in service of growth, healing, stronger relationships, and meaningful action. In This Episode, We Talk About: How Michelle first began seeing and communicating with angels Why she initially struggled to understand and accept her spiritual gifts How intuition can be strengthened through practice The connection between movement, creativity, nature, and intuitive thinking Why Michelle does not separate her logical and spiritual work Her guiding values of safe space, service, and love The unforgettable story of being told to inform a stranger that her shoes were ugly How children, animals, and people nearing the end of life may offer a different kind of wisdom The importance of unconditional love, freedom, responsibility, and choice Why vulnerability can be a meaningful source of strength How our words can bring comfort, connection, and help to others Why even a powerful insight eventually needs a “so what?” and an action step What to Think About This Week Michelle reminds us that intuition does not look the same for everyone. Some people may experience it as a spiritual message, while others notice it when they are walking, gardening, swimming, dancing, creating, or simply stepping away from the noise of everyday life. This week, consider creating a little more room to listen. Slow down, spend time outside, move your body, drink some water, or return to an activity that helps you feel more present. Then notice what comes up. The challenge is not only to receive an insight, but also to ask what you will do with it.  Questions to Ask Yourself When do I feel most connected to my intuition? What helps me step out of my thinking brain and become more present? Are there parts of myself that I have been placing into separate boxes? Where might I need to slow down, listen, or ask for help? What words of appreciation, encouragement, or love could I offer someone? What insight have I received that now needs an action step? Additional Resources Through Grow By One, Michelle offers books, coaching resources, courses, intuitive readings, a coaching academy, and a podcast. Visit https://growby1.com/ Her courses explore topics such as working with angel energy, emotional management with archangels, divine feminine energy, and different types of thinking. Michelle is also the author of Coaching Skills for Educators: 52 Tips to Maximizing Others Performance in the Classroom and other works that bring together her experience, research, intuition, and practical approach to supporting others. Visit Grow By One to learn more about Michelle’s work, books, podcast, courses, and services. Connect With Us We would love to hear what this conversation brought up for you. Have you ever experienced a moment of intuition that was difficult to explain? Is there an activity that helps you slow down and hear yourself more clearly? What does the phrase “You can’t do this life wrong” mean to you? Connect with us on social media and share your thoughts. You can also follow or subscribe to This Was Supposed to Be Easy wherever you listen to podcasts so you do not miss an episode. Thanks for joining us for another conversation about the things in life that were supposed to be easy—but rarely are.

  2. Aug 5

    S2 Episode 71: We Thought that Choosing Ourselves In Order To Help Others Flourish Was Supposed to Be Easy with Rhonda Meyers

    Introduction In Part 2 of our conversation with early childhood leader and entrepreneur Rhonda Meyers, we move beyond leadership strategies and into something even deeper: how leaders sustain themselves while continually pouring into others. Rhonda shares the intentional practices, mentors, and accountability relationships that help her stay grounded, continue growing, and lead with authenticity. Together, we explore what it really means to flourish—not as a destination, but as an ongoing process of self-awareness, courage, trial and error, and choosing ourselves so that we can continue choosing others. Along the way, we discuss creating spaces where teachers feel seen, heard, and valued, the importance of investing in every person who crosses our path, and why leadership requires both humility and hope. About Our Guest Rhonda Meyers is the CEO and co-founder of Heartfelt Impressions Learning Centers and ECE Subhub, an entrepreneur, leadership coach, speaker, and passionate advocate for early childhood education. Known for her relationship-centered leadership style, Rhonda has spent decades creating organizational cultures where children, educators, and families can thrive. She is also the host of The Heartfelt Way podcast, where she shares practical leadership lessons, honest reflections, and encouragement for leaders committed to making a lasting impact. Heartfelt Impressions Learning Centers: https://heartfeltimpressions.net/ ECE Subhub: https://www.ecesubhub.com/our-mission/founders-story The Heartfelt Way Podcast: https://theheartfeltway.org/  In this episode, we talk about: Where leaders go when they need someone to pour into them. Why accountability—not just inspiration—is essential for long-term leadership. Creating a personal "circle of people" who challenge and strengthen us. Learning to truly choose yourself and refill your own bucket. The importance of feeling seen, heard, and valued—even as the leader. Why women often hesitate to fully claim their gifts and purpose. Cheryl shares her emerging vision for a Framework for Flourishing for early childhood professionals. The beautiful gardening metaphor for nurturing people so they can continue to bloom. Creating environments where teachers flourish in different ways based on their individual needs. Designing leadership retreats that prioritize connection before productivity. Building leadership systems that develop future leaders instead of creating dependence. Why investing in people—even those who may eventually leave—is always worthwhile. Leading with humility by sharing mistakes instead of pretending leadership is easy. Why authentic leadership means continuing to love deeply, even when it's difficult. Takeaway One of the most powerful reminders from this conversation is that flourishing doesn't happen by accident. It requires intentional care, meaningful relationships, honest accountability, and the courage to continue growing ourselves while helping others grow. Just as every plant requires different conditions to thrive, every person flourishes differently—and great leaders take the time to discover what each individual needs. At the same time, leaders must remember that they, too, deserve to be seen, nurtured, and invested in. Challenge for This Week Take a few quiet minutes to reflect on one question: Who is helping you flourish? Consider the people, routines, or communities that fill your own cup. If your answer feels thin, choose one intentional step this week—reach out to a mentor, reconnect with a trusted friend, schedule time for reflection, or simply choose yourself in one meaningful way. Flourishing begins when we intentionally care for the person doing the caring.

  3. Jul 29

    S2 Episode 70: We Thought That Building Something Meaningful Was Supposed To Be Easy with Rhonda Meyers

    What does it take to build something meaningful? According to this week's guest, it starts with saying "yes" to possibilities before you know exactly how they'll unfold. In this inspiring 2 episode conversation, Cheryl and Amy sit down with longtime friend and early childhood leader Rhonda Meyers to talk about entrepreneurship, leadership, courage, and the power of surrounding yourself with people who see your potential. Rhonda shares the winding path that led her from running a home daycare in her basement to co-owning multiple successful businesses, while remaining deeply committed to the children, families, and educators she serves. But this episode isn't just for aspiring business owners. It's for every woman who's ever questioned whether she's capable of taking the next step. Together, we explore what it means to become comfortable with risk, learn from failure, embrace accountability without losing your heart, and intentionally build a community that encourages you to become more fully yourself. Meet Our Guest Rhonda Meyers is the co-owner of Heartfelt Impressions Learning Centers and ECE SubHub, two organizations dedicated to strengthening early childhood education through exceptional leadership, innovative staffing solutions, and a deep commitment to quality. With more than three decades of experience in the field, Rhonda is known for combining a strong business mindset with a heart for people. She is a sought-after speaker, mentor, and leader who believes that successful organizations are built by investing in relationships, continuous learning, and courageous leadership. Heartfelt Impressions Learning Centers: https://heartfeltimpressions.net/ ECE Subhub: https://www.ecesubhub.com/our-mission/founders-story The Heartfelt Way Podcast: https://theheartfeltway.org/  In This Episode We Talk About: How Rhonda's journey began with a licensed home daycare in her basement Turning unexpected career setbacks into opportunities for growth Why being comfortable with risk is different than being fearless Building businesses that stay true to your values and integrity The importance of finding mentors and creating your own personal "board of directors" Why the people you surround yourself with influence what you believe is possible Balancing heart, purpose, and compassion with accountability and strong business practices Creating workplace cultures where every voice matters The value of asking questions—even when you feel inexperienced Learning to take small, consistent steps instead of chasing overnight success Why investing in people creates lasting organizational change The leadership lessons that only come through humility, mistakes, and perseverance Takeaway You don't have to know exactly where you're going before taking the next step. Growth often begins by putting yourself in rooms where you're still learning, asking questions you don't yet know the answers to, and surrounding yourself with people who believe in your potential—even before you fully believe in it yourself. The most meaningful success isn't built overnight; it's created one courageous conversation, one small decision, and one intentional relationship at a time. This Week's Challenge Take a few minutes to think about your own personal board of directors. Who are the people who encourage your growth, challenge your thinking, celebrate your successes, and remind you who you are when you've forgotten? If someone comes to mind, reach out this week. Send a text, schedule a coffee, or simply thank them for the role they've played in your life. And if you realize your circle could use another encouraging voice, consider taking one brave step toward joining a professional group, attending an event, or introducing yourself to someone whose wisdom you admire. Sometimes the next chapter of your life begins with one conversation. Note: This episode reflects personal experiences and the opinions of the talent, it’s not therapy or legal advice. For personal situations, consult a qualified professional. Connect with us Website: https://supposedtobeeasy.com/  Our Podcast Home: https://supposedtobeeasy.podbean.com/ Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music/Audible | iHeartRadio Social Media: Instagram @supposedtobeeasy / Facebook @Supposed to be Easy We want to hear from you! Follow and share your key takeaways, ideas, and inspiration!

  4. Jul 22

    S2 Episode 69: We Thought Receiving Feedback Was Supposed To Be Easy

    Last week, we talked about what it means to give feedback with care, clarity, timing, and relationship in mind. This week, we are stepping into the other side of that conversation: receiving feedback. And whew… sometimes receiving feedback can come with an “ouch” moment. In this episode, we talk about what it means to be open, coachable, and self-aware when feedback comes our way. Sometimes feedback is positive and encouraging. Sometimes it is something we do not want to hear but maybe need to hear. Sometimes it is helpful. Sometimes it is someone else’s opinion, projection, or discomfort being handed to us. We explore how receiving feedback well does not mean accepting every piece of feedback as truth. Instead, it means learning how to pause, listen, sort through what is useful, and decide what deserves to become part of us, and what we can breathe in and let go. We also talk about the importance of knowing who we receive feedback from. Are they in the arena with us? Do they have our best interest at heart? Are they helping us become a better version of ourselves, or are they asking us to become a version of ourselves that serves them? From parenting and teaching stories to workplace feedback, relationships, AI, trusted advisors, and the people we choose to surround ourselves with, this conversation reminds us that receiving feedback is a skill. And like any skill, we can practice it, grow in it, and become more intentional about who we want to be when feedback finds us. In this episode, we talk about: Why receiving feedback is a skill we can develop What it means to be coachable beyond sports or formal coaching How feedback can help us grow when it comes from care and trust The difference between helpful information and someone’s opinion Why timing and headspace matter when asking for or receiving feedback How to look for patterns instead of overreacting to one comment Why not all feedback deserves the same weight How self-awareness helps us decide what feedback to keep and what to release The importance of choosing trusted advisors or a personal “board of directors” How AI feedback may be useful for tasks, but cannot replace human wisdom, relationship, or lived context Takeaway: Receiving feedback well does not mean taking in every opinion, criticism, or suggestion as truth. It means staying open enough to learn, grounded enough to discern, and self-aware enough to decide what belongs to you and what does not. Challenge for the Week: This week, think about the last time someone gave you feedback. Ask yourself: How did I respond in the moment? Was I defensive, open, hurt, curious, or excited? Did I take the feedback in and let it become part of me? Did I breathe it in, take what I needed, and let the rest go? Was this feedback from someone who has my best interest at heart? Who do I want to be when I receive feedback? Then, think about one small step you can take to become the kind of person you want to be when feedback comes your way. Maybe that means pausing before responding. Maybe it means saying, “Thank you for sharing that. I’m going to think about it.” Maybe it means asking for feedback from someone you trust. Or maybe it means giving yourself permission to let go of feedback that was never really yours to carry. Connect with Us Website: https://supposedtobeeasy.com/ Our Podcast Home: https://supposedtobeeasy.podbean.com/ Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music/Audible | iHeartRadio Social Media: Instagram @supposedtobeeasy / Facebook @Supposed to be Easy We want to hear from you! Follow and share your key takeaways, ideas, and inspiration!

  5. Jul 15

    S2 Episode 68: We Thought Giving Feedback Was Supposed To Be Easy

    This week, we are starting a two-part conversation about feedback. Feedback is something we all give and receive in so many areas of our lives - as parents, friends, coworkers, leaders, educators, students, partners, and humans just trying to figure things out together. In this first part, we focus on giving feedback. We talk about why feedback is more than simply telling someone what they did right or wrong. The way we give feedback can shape trust, connection, confidence, and whether the other person is even able to hear what we are trying to say. We explore the difference between helpful, specific feedback and the quick “good job” or “attaboy” that may feel positive but does not always show that we truly noticed someone’s effort. We also talk about timing: when feedback is useful, when it can wait, and when the best response might simply be to celebrate that someone did the hard thing. Of course, curiosity shows up in the conversation too. Before giving feedback, we ask ourselves: Am I the right person? Is this the right time? Is this the right place? Am I calm enough and neutral enough to offer something constructive? And does this person even want feedback from me right now? We also touch on the growing use of AI-generated feedback in schools and workplaces, and what can feel lost when feedback no longer feels human, personal, or connected to the actual work someone put forward. In this episode, we talk about: Why giving feedback is a skill we all need to practice How our mood and headspace affect the way feedback comes out The difference between feedback that builds trust and feedback that feels generic Why specific feedback matters more than a simple “good job” How timing can make feedback helpful or harmful When to pause and ask, “Who do you need me to be right now?” The difference between giving feedback, giving an opinion, and sharing a culture or policy expectation Why relationship, curiosity, and self-awareness matter when offering feedback How AI feedback may be useful in some ways but still cannot replace human connection Takeaway: Feedback is not just about correction. At its best, feedback says: I see you. I noticed your effort. Your work matters. I care enough about your success to be thoughtful with what I offer. Challenge for the Week: This week, practice giving thoughtful feedback to someone in your life. Before you offer it, pause and ask yourself: Am I the right person to give this feedback? Is this the right time? Is this feedback specific and useful? Am I offering this with care, curiosity, and the relationship in mind? It might be feedback to a coworker, a child, a friend, a partner, or even someone you are mentoring. The goal is not to be perfect. The goal is to notice how you give feedback and practice making it more intentional. Next week, we’ll continue the conversation by talking about the other side of the equation: receiving feedback. Connect with us Website: https://supposedtobeeasy.com/  Our Podcast Home: https://supposedtobeeasy.podbean.com/ Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music/Audible | iHeartRadio Social Media: Instagram @supposedtobeeasy / Facebook @Supposed to be Easy We want to hear from you! Follow and share your key takeaways, ideas, and inspiration!

  6. Jul 8

    S2 Episode 67: We Thought Seeing Places We've Only Imagined Was Supposed to Be Easy Part 2

    We Thought Traveling Abroad and Feeling Connected to your Ancestors Was Supposed to Be Easy Episode Description What happens when a lifelong dream finally becomes reality? In this 2 part episode, Amy sits down with Cheryl to unpack her May 2026 adventure through Sweden, Finland, and Estonia. As someone who has spent years reading about Nordic culture, hygge, cozy living, and her own Nordic roots, Cheryl shares what it was like to finally experience these places firsthand. From Swedish meatballs and pickled herring to Finnish saunas and cold plunges in the Baltic Sea, this conversation explores the joys of travel, the surprises that come from stepping into another culture, and the lessons that emerge when we remain open to new experiences. Whether you're dreaming of international travel yourself or simply curious about what makes Nordic countries so fascinating, this episode offers a thoughtful reflection on curiosity, culture, comfort, and the magic of seeing a place you've only imagined before.    Key Topics and Takeaways Cheryl's long-standing fascination with Nordic culture and the concept of hygge.  Discovering family connections to Scandinavia through ancestry and personal history.  Food experiences in Sweden, including Swedish meatballs, lingonberries, pickled herring, and traditional recipes passed down through generations.  Trying reindeer and other uniquely Nordic foods.  Exploring the differences between Scandinavian and Nordic countries.  The role of public spaces, playgrounds, libraries, and museums in supporting childhood.  How Sweden and Finland approach risk, play, and outdoor experiences for children.  The cultural importance of saunas in Finland.  Experiencing a cold plunge in the Baltic Sea.  Public transportation, language barriers, and navigating international travel.  The surprising similarities between northern Michigan and parts of Scandinavia.  The beauty of slowing down, embracing coziness, and finding joy in seasonal living.  Why flexibility and curiosity can make travel more meaningful.    Memorable Lines "I found my people." — Cheryl Priest "The easiest translation is a cozy life." — Cheryl Priest "Every chair had a blanket on it. And I thought, this is magical." — Cheryl Priest "I was blown away by the opportunity to see what childhood looked like in public places." — Cheryl Priest "I'd fallen in love with a place before I'd ever actually been there." — Inspired by Cheryl's reflections "Who cares if we got on the wrong tram? That's a funny story later." — Cheryl Priest "To experience true hygge, you probably need to try going somewhere that's cold." — Cheryl Priest "Always be open to the experience and open to unplanned changes." — Cheryl Priest   Challenge for the Week Think about a place, culture, experience, or tradition that has always fascinated you. Now ask yourself: What draws me to it?  What have I only learned through books, videos, or social media?  What would it look like to experience it firsthand?  You don't need an international plane ticket to start exploring. Visit a cultural festival. Try a new recipe. Read a book from a different country. Learn a few words in another language. Seek out a local experience that feels unfamiliar. Curiosity often begins long before the journey itself.   Additional Resources Books Mentioned or Referenced How to Winter by Kari Leibowitz  Books exploring Hygge and Nordic living  Resources on Scandinavian and Nordic culture  Topics to Explore Hygge (Denmark)  Lagom (Sweden)  Sisu (Finland)  Nordic approaches to childhood and play  Sauna culture and cold-water immersion  Sustainable city design and public spaces

  7. Jul 1

    S2 Episode 66 We Thought Seeing Places We've Only Imagined Was Supposed to Be Easy Part 1

    Episode Description What happens when a lifelong dream finally becomes reality? In this 2 part episode, Amy sits down with Cheryl to unpack her May 2026 adventure through Sweden, Finland, and Estonia. As someone who has spent years reading about Nordic culture, hygge, cozy living, and her own Nordic roots, Cheryl shares what it was like to finally experience these places firsthand. From Swedish meatballs and pickled herring to Finnish saunas and cold plunges in the Baltic Sea, this conversation explores the joys of travel, the surprises that come from stepping into another culture, and the lessons that emerge when we remain open to new experiences. Whether you're dreaming of international travel yourself or simply curious about what makes Nordic countries so fascinating, this 2 part episode offers a thoughtful reflection on curiosity, culture, comfort, and the magic of seeing a place you've only imagined before.  Key Topics and Takeaways Cheryl's long-standing fascination with Nordic culture and the concept of hygge.  Discovering family connections to Scandinavia through ancestry and personal history.  Food experiences in Sweden, including Swedish meatballs, lingonberries, pickled herring, and traditional recipes passed down through generations.  Trying reindeer and other uniquely Nordic foods.  Exploring the differences between Scandinavian and Nordic countries.  The role of public spaces, playgrounds, libraries, and museums in supporting childhood.  How Sweden and Finland approach risk, play, and outdoor experiences for children.  The cultural importance of saunas in Finland.  Experiencing a cold plunge in the Baltic Sea.  The surprising similarities between northern Michigan and parts of Scandinavia.  The beauty of slowing down, embracing coziness, and finding joy in seasonal living.  Why flexibility and curiosity can make travel more meaningful.  Memorable Lines "I found my people." — Cheryl Priest "Every chair had a blanket on it. And I thought, this is magical." — Cheryl Priest "I was blown away by the opportunity to see what childhood looked like in public places." — Cheryl Priest "I'd fallen in love with a place before I'd ever actually been there." — Inspired by Cheryl's reflections "Who cares if we got on the wrong tram? That's going to be a funny story later on." — Cheryl Priest "Always be open to the experience and open to unplanned changes." — Cheryl Priest Challenge for the Week Think about a place, culture, experience, or tradition that has always fascinated you. Now ask yourself: What draws me to it?  What have I only learned through books, videos, or social media?  What would it look like to experience it firsthand?  You don't need an international plane ticket to start exploring. Visit a cultural festival. Try a new recipe. Read a book from a different country. Learn a few words in another language. Seek out a local experience that feels unfamiliar. Curiosity often begins long before the journey itself. Additional Resources Books Mentioned or Referenced How to Winter by Kari Leibowitz  Books exploring Hygge and Nordic living  Resources on Scandinavian and Nordic culture  Topics to Explore Hygge (Denmark)  Lagom (Sweden)  Sisu (Finland)  Nordic approaches to childhood and play  Sauna culture and cold-water immersion  Sustainable city design and public spaces

  8. Jun 3

    S2: Episode 65: We Thought Helping the Children in our Life to Be New at Something Was Supposed to Be Easy

    Trying something new sounds exciting… until you're actually the beginner. In this episode, Amy and Cheryl sit down with friend and guest Erin Smith-Gaken to explore what happens when we step outside of our comfort zones. The conversation begins with children and activities sports, dance, hobbies, and the growing pressure to specialize at younger and younger ages but quickly expands into a larger discussion about comparison, confidence, grit, and what it means to be a beginner at any stage of life. Together, they explore how parents, coaches, and communities can either encourage or discourage growth, why being "new" has become so uncomfortable, and how many of us carry those same fears into adulthood when considering career changes, new hobbies, or unexpected opportunities. Whether you're helping a child discover their interests or wondering if it's too late to try something yourself, this conversation is a reminder that growth rarely begins with expertise, it begins with curiosity.   About Our Guest Erin Smith-Gaken is a learning and development professional, parent, and lifelong learner who recently made the transition from higher education into corporate learning and HR. As the mother of two children, Erin brings both personal and professional perspectives to conversations about growth, confidence, and trying new things. Her passion for helping people step outside of their comfort zones shines throughout this thoughtful discussion.   Key Topics and Takeaways Why children are often expected to specialize in activities at increasingly younger ages. The difference between exploring interests and feeling pressured to choose a lifelong path. How comparison can discourage both children and adults from trying something new. The importance of creating environments where beginners feel welcome. Why grit develops through struggle, practice, and persistence. The role parents play in supporting children through success, failure, and uncertainty. How social media can distort our understanding of learning and mastery. The challenge of career transitions and recognizing transferable skills. Imposter syndrome and the belief that there is only one "right" path into a profession. Why curiosity is often the first step toward personal growth. The importance of allowing ourselves to be beginners again. How supportive relationships help us take risks and build confidence.   Memorable Lines "The skill of learning to be new and step outside and take risks is so important all throughout your life." — Amy Bond "Almost feeling like you've missed the boat before you're eight." — Cheryl Priest "We're no longer coaching to teach and learn something new. We're coaching for enhancement." — Erin Smith-Gaken "I think we get stuck in the idea that there's only one route from point A to point B." — Erin Smith-Gaken "I'd like the box to be gone." — Cheryl Priest "Sometimes it's our own selves that are getting in the way of trying something new." — Erin Smith-Gaken "Growth rarely starts with confidence. It starts with curiosity." — Inspired by the conversation   Challenge for the Week Think about something you've always been interested in trying but never pursued because you felt too old, too inexperienced, or too far behind. Now ask yourself: What would happen if I allowed myself to be a beginner? What am I afraid might happen? What could I gain if I tried anyway? Then take one small step. Sign up for a class. Watch a tutorial. Attend a meeting. Ask a question. You don't have to become an expert this week. Just give yourself permission to begin.   Additional Resources Carol Dweck's work on Growth Mindset Brené Brown's research on vulnerability and courage Angela Duckworth's work on Grit TED Talk: The Power of Believing You Can Improve by Carol Dweck TED Talk: Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance by Angela Duckworth

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Your go-to podcast for connection, joy, and a good dose of laughter. Hosted by 2 friends who’ve seen enough of life to know that it’s never as simple as it sounds (or looks), each conversation celebrates the diverse journeys we travel — the moments of bravery, the strength we didn’t know we had, and the joy we find along the way. Because let’s be honest: life is full of things that were supposed to be easy…but turned out to be harder (and definitely funnier) than we thought. This is Amy & Cheryl ~ and if it were easy, we wouldn’t be here.

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