The Detangled Podcast

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The Detangled Podcast by Avlon is a space for textured conversation — created for hair professionals, curious consumers, and anyone passionate about curls, coils, and care. Hosted by Avlon’s Jacqui McIntosh (Education Director) and Louis Driver (Educator), each episode explores the science, culture, and lived experience behind textured hair. From product insights and professional techniques to identity, representation and education, we’re here to nourish understanding and untangle myths. Add this podcast to your routine — because growth isn’t just for your hair. Together, we’re building community, strand by strand. Stay Connected Like, subscribe, and leave a review. Join the conversation with us on social media: Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Follow our hosts: Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair www.avloneurope.co.uk

  1. Ep.12 The Year in Review 2025

    12/30/2025 · BONUS

    Ep.12 The Year in Review 2025

    In this special bonus episode of The Detangled Podcast, Louis and Jacqui pause to reflect on the year that has passed, both personally and professionally, and take stock of the moments, conversations, and developments that have shaped their work. They revisit key highlights from the year, including the growth of the podcast, live education moments, international projects, and the evolving direction of education within Avlon. Through open conversation, they explore how the brand continues to push boundaries, respond to the changing landscape of the hair industry, and remain rooted in science-led, inclusive haircare. The episode also looks ahead, with Louis and Jacqui sharing insights into what is next, from the evolution of education and professional standards to future projects, collaborations, and the next phase of The Detangled Podcast. Thoughtful, reflective, and future-facing, this bonus episode offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look at a brand and partnership in motion. Key Topics Covered Reflecting on the past year and its defining momentsGrowth and reception of The Detangled PodcastEducation, innovation, and science-led haircare at AvlonInternational work, live education, and community buildingThe importance of professional standards and continued learningLooking ahead to future projects, education pathways, and Season TwoStay Connected Follow the hosts: Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh Follow Avlon: Avlon Europe: @Avlonuk Avlon: @Avlon Production Credits Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Artwork Illustration: @bibanabi Cover Design: Louis Driver

    34 min
  2. Ep.11 Meet The Maker - Dr Syed

    06/04/2025 · BONUS

    Ep.11 Meet The Maker - Dr Syed

    In this special bonus episode of The Detangled Podcast, hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver sit down with Dr. Ali N. Syed, founder and CEO of Avlon Industries, to explore the science, innovation, and legacy behind some of the most iconic textured hair products in the world. With over 45 patents, Dr. Syed is a true pioneer in textured haircare, having developed brands such as Affirm, KeraCare, As I Am, and Uberliss. He shares his personal journey, from his early passion for hair in the 1970s to the development of cutting-edge technologies focused on curl protection, scalp health, and hair growth. The conversation highlights the global diversity of curly and coily textures, the future of hair science, and the launch of his book Curly Hair, a comprehensive guide rooted in decades of research and salon experience. Key Topics Covered Dr. Syed’s journey into hair science and why he specialised in curly and coily hairThe power of patents and how innovation shapes the future of textured haircareScientific insights into curl formation, keratin-associated proteins, and hair damage preventionWhy scalp health is foundational, including microbiome balance and product developmentThe evolution of iconic brands: Affirm, As I Am, and UberlissThe inspiration behind his book Curly Hair and what it offers to stylists and consumers alikeThe ongoing pursuit of natural ingredients and advanced product formulationsStay Connected: If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media: Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair Guest: Dr. Ali N. Syed, Founder & CEO Production Credits Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi Cover Design: Louis Driver Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

    30 min
  3. Ep 10. Myths, Legend, and Language

    05/28/2025

    Ep 10. Myths, Legend, and Language

    In this informative episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh explore the often-overlooked foundation of healthy hair: the scalp. With Jacqui’s expertise as a trichologist, they take a deep dive into common ingredients, myths, and misconceptions surrounding curly and coily hair care. From decoding industry buzzwords like sulfates, silicones, alcohols, and proteins, to clarifying the importance of pH balance, scalp hygiene, and damage prevention, this episode offers a much-needed demystification of textured hair maintenance. Whether you're a seasoned stylist or someone navigating your own hair journey, Episode 10 is a masterclass in informed, science-led care. Key Topics Covered Scalp HealthWhy scalp care is essential to hair growth and integrity.Common conditions like seborrheic dermatitis, folliculitis, and fungal infections.The role of hygiene, product choice, and professional assessments in prevention.The importance of seeing a trichologist Ingredient Deep Dive: Myth-Busting and Best PracticesSulphates: Often demonised, but still useful in removing heavy buildup when used appropriately.Silicones: Beneficial for textured hair if water-soluble and well-formulated.Alcohols: Differentiating between fatty alcohols (moisturising) and short-chain alcohols (drying) based on hair type.Proteins: Used to rebuild strength and elasticity, but require a moisture balance to prevent brittleness or breakage.pH Balance & Product ScienceUnderstanding the pH scale (0–14), and why shampoos for textured hair should fall between 4.5–5.5.The difference between neutralising (locks structure, e.g., in perms) and normalising (restores pH, e.g., post-chemical treatments).Damage vs. CompromiseRedefining “damage” in client conversations to “compromised” to reduce stigma.Examples of common, often overlooked forms of damage: improper detangling, wet brushing, buildup, and poor product use.Protective PracticesThe importance of leave-in conditioning, heat protection, and layering moisture at every stage of the process.Stay Connected Follow the hosts: Louis Driver: @louisdoeshairJacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintoshFollow Avlon: Avlon Europe: @AvloneuropeAvlon: @AvlonProduction Credits Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntoshRecorded at: London Podcast StudiosCover Artwork Illustration: @bibanabiCover Design: Louis DriverWebsite: www.avloneurope.co.uk

    49 min
  4. EP.9 Curls, Coils and Colour

    05/28/2025

    EP.9 Curls, Coils and Colour

    In this episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by Hannah Marcia to break down the essentials of colouring curly and coily hair. They explore the science behind textured hair, common colour myths, practical tips for stylists, and how to achieve stunning colour results without compromising curl integrity. Key Topics Covered Textured Hair Structure: Curls have more open cuticles, making them lift quicker—but also more prone to damage. A “lower and slower” approach helps protect the hair.Placement & Technique: Traditional foil methods often fall short. Use visual, freehand techniques to work with the 3D nature of curls.Warm Tones: Gold and warm tones enhance shine on curls, which reflect less light than straighter textures. Clients should be educated about realistic outcomes.Product Choice Matters: High-lift tints, direct dyes, and bond builders offer gentle alternatives to bleach. Go in with intention—know your “why” behind every product.Myth-Busting: Colour doesn’t automatically loosen curl patterns. Overlapping or incorrect processing causes damage—not colour itself.Aftercare Is Essential: Moisture, protein, heat protection, and salon check-ins extend colour life and maintain curl health.Client Communication: Transparency is key. Stylists can’t protect hair they don’t know the history of. Educate clients on maintenance and realistic colour goals.Creating Dimension: Leaving sections out of colour is as important as what’s coloured—depth enhances curl definition and longevity.Formulation Strategy: Consider porosity and how textured hair reflects tone. Add warmth and pigment to prevent flat, dull results.Hero Products & Pro Tips Louis’s Picks: Uberliss Bond Healing Spray + Frizz Elixir: The ultimate combo for post-colour care—moisture, protection, and shine without weight.Hannah’s Pick: Uberliss Colour Sustainers: Great for maintaining tone at home, adding pigment and moisture between salon visits.Pro Tips: Louis: Always weigh formulas for accuracy—consistency matters, especially on fragile textures.Hannah: Be intentional—match your lightener or tint to the goal and always prioritise hair health.Stay Connected Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver (@louisdoeshair) Guest: Hannah Marcia (@hannahmarciaa) Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk Produced by: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver Artwork: Habiba Nabisubi (@bibanabi) Design: Louis Driver Recorded at: London Podcast Studios

    30 min
  5. Ep.8 Texture On Set

    05/21/2025

    Ep.8 Texture On Set

    In this insightful episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by award-winning session stylist and educator Junior Green, along with returning guest Avlon Creative Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the realities of working with textured hair on set. Together, they unpack the creative, technical and logistical challenges of delivering hair excellence in fast-paced editorial, TV and film environments. From Bridgerton to BAFTA red carpets, the episode spotlights the skills and adaptability required to represent texture authentically and professionally. Whether you're a new stylist, an aspiring session artist or an educator, this episode offers grounded wisdom, career advice, and inspiration for navigating textured hair work beyond the salon. Key Topics Covered What “texture on set” really means in professional settingsThe ongoing challenges of styling afro hair in editorial, fashion, TV and filmExperiences working on major productions like BridgertonWhy core hairdressing skills (setting, pinning, classic dressing) still matterThe time disparity when styling afro-textured hair vs. European texturesEquipment must-haves and how to prepare for unpredictable working conditionsThe role of mentorship and lifelong learning in a stylist’s journeyBuilding collections: structured planning vs. spontaneous creativityIndustry icons, sources of inspiration and the legacy of textured hair in visual media Stay Connected Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh & Louis Driver Guests: Junior Green @juniorgreenhair & Pashcanell Mitchell @pashcanel Production Credits Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Recorded at: London Podcast Studios Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

    42 min
  6. Ep.7 Texture SOS

    05/21/2025

    Ep.7 Texture SOS

    In this essential episode of The Detangled Podcast, co-hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by hair stylists and educators Lathaniel Chambers and Pashcan'el Mitchell to explore the world of smoothing systems. Whether you're a professional looking to refine your practice or a client curious about options, this episode breaks down the key methods used to smooth textured hair and the responsibilities that come with them. Together, the panel unpacks the differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk presses, offering expert insights on consultation, client suitability, and the myths and realities surrounding these techniques. The conversation also delves into aftercare, education gaps, and the evolving attitudes toward chemically and thermally altered hair textures in salons and online spaces. Expect informed discussion, practical tips, and thoughtful reflection on how smoothing services can be delivered safely, ethically, and with respect for the hair’s natural integrity. Key Topics Covered The differences between relaxers, texturizers, and silk pressesThe history and cultural perceptions of smoothing systemsThe importance of honest consultation and professional assessmentRecognising when smoothing services are or aren’t appropriateOnline misinformation and its impact on client expectationsProduct selection and hair preparation for smoothing servicesTraining gaps and continuing education for stylistsManaging transitions from chemical to natural texturesHero Products & Pro Tips Use of neutralising shampoos to protect the hair post-relaxerHow heat protectants enhance longevity and safety during silk pressesThe role of conditioning treatments before and after chemical servicesTips for avoiding over-processing and maintaining healthy hairStay Connected: If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media: Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair Guest: Lathaniel: @lathanielscouture Pash: @pashcanel Production Credits Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi Cover Design: Louis Driver Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

    1h 6m
  7. Ep.6 The Great Texture Education Debate

    05/14/2025

    Ep.6 The Great Texture Education Debate

    In this illuminating episode of The Detangled Podcast, hosts Jacqui McIntosh and Louis Driver are joined by industry educator and author Sandra Gittens. With a legacy spanning over three decades, Sandra shares invaluable insights into the evolution of textured hair education, highlighting the historical gaps in Afro hair training and the progress made in raising industry standards. From her experience writing the UK's first dedicated Afro hair curriculum to pushing for inclusive qualifications, Sandra offers a powerful perspective on where the industry has been—and where it needs to go. Key Topics Covered The absence of Afro and textured hair in historical training manuals and qualification standardsSandra’s journey in developing the first NVQ units for Afro hair in the UKHow miseducation impacts client experiences and stylist confidenceWhy inclusive education must be central to all hair training programmesA discussion on the cultural significance of Afro hair and why representation mattersWhat still needs to change in product development, education, and professional attitudesHero Products & Pro Tips Sandra emphasises the importance of understanding hair texture and porosity over simply focusing on curl patternsAdvice for educators: “Embed textured hair into every unit—don't bolt it on.”For stylists: Ongoing education is key. “Never stop learning, because textured hair is always evolving.”Stay Connected: If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media: Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair Guest: Sandra Gittes – @hannahmarciaa Production Credits Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi Cover Design: Louis Driver Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

    59 min
  8. Ep.5 Natural Hair, Braiding, and Protective Styling

    05/14/2025

    Ep.5 Natural Hair, Braiding, and Protective Styling

    In this episode of The Detangled Podcast by Avlon, hosts Louis Driver and Jacqui McIntosh are joined by Aycan Kemal, owner of New York Hair Design, and returning guest Lathaniel Chambers for a rich and inspiring conversation on protective styling, braiding techniques, and natural haircare culture. Aycan shares her phenomenal 25-year journey in the textured hair industry, including her Guinness World Record for the fastest braiding, and her passion for competition styling. Together with Lathaniel, they unpack what makes a style truly protective, how to maintain scalp health, and why natural hair trends are evolving for the better. From award-winning artistry to salon best practices, this episode is packed with insights for professionals and enthusiasts alike. Key Topics Covered Defining Protective Styling: Tension, technique, and how to avoid long-term damage.Braiding Techniques & Style Trends: Including boho braids, knotless styles, and Fulani-inspired patterns.Aycan’s Career & Accolades: From opening her salon in 2000 to entering the Hall of Fame and setting a Guinness World Record.Product Knowledge & Texture Focus: Tailoring treatments to Type 3 & Type 4 curls, plus insider product tips.Scalp Health & Maintenance: How to manage braids between salon visits without compromising style longevity.Salon Culture & the Natural Hair Movement: Embracing authenticity, inclusivity, and the evolving expectations of textured hair clients. Stay Connected: If you enjoyed this episode, follow, subscribe, and leave us a review. Join the conversation with us on social media: Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Hosts: Jacqui McIntosh – @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver – @louisdoeshair Guests: Aycan Kemal: @nyhairdesign Lathaniel Chambers: @thehairmechanicldn Production Credits Producers: Louis Driver & Jacqui McIntosh Recorded at: London Podcast Studios @londonpodcaststudios Cover Artwork Illustration: Habiba Nabisubi @bibanabi Cover Design: Louis Driver Website: www.avloneurope.co.uk

    45 min
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The Detangled Podcast by Avlon is a space for textured conversation — created for hair professionals, curious consumers, and anyone passionate about curls, coils, and care. Hosted by Avlon’s Jacqui McIntosh (Education Director) and Louis Driver (Educator), each episode explores the science, culture, and lived experience behind textured hair. From product insights and professional techniques to identity, representation and education, we’re here to nourish understanding and untangle myths. Add this podcast to your routine — because growth isn’t just for your hair. Together, we’re building community, strand by strand. Stay Connected Like, subscribe, and leave a review. Join the conversation with us on social media: Avlon Europe: @avlonuk Avlon: @avlon Follow our hosts: Jacqui McIntosh: @jacqui.mcintosh Louis Driver: @louisdoeshair www.avloneurope.co.uk

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