AI in Chicago, a Podcast

Khullani M. Abdullahi, JD | Founder Techne AI and BoardSight AI

Welcome to AI in Chicago, the podcast where cutting-edge artificial intelligence meets the heart of the Midwest. From interviews with AI investors, researchers at top universities, and founders at rising startups to city officials leveraging machine learning to improve public services, AI in Chicago brings you stories, insights, and conversations that bridge the global and the hyperlocal. This show dives deep into the evolving world of AI through the lens of Chicago’s rich cultural, entrepreneurial, and academic landscape.

  1. The Information War: How Think Tanks Fractured American Democracy (with Prof. E.J. Fagan)

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    The Information War: How Think Tanks Fractured American Democracy (with Prof. E.J. Fagan)

    Why do Republicans and Democrats live in different factual universes? The answer traces back to 1973 and three conservative staffers who transformed how America makes policy. Professor E.J. Fagan, author of "The Thinkers," explains how partisan think tanks replaced neutral expertise with competing knowledge regimes—and why smart, educated people are actually easier to fool than everyone else. In this conversation, we explore: Why the Heritage Foundation was founded and how it changed American politics How the 2009 stimulus bill demonstrates the cost of ideological capture Why it's easier to fool intelligent, motivated people than those who are less informed The difference between think tanks in the US versus other democracies Why Project 2025 may be less influential than people think Organizations like the Niskanen Center and R Street Institute that are getting it right Professor Fagan argues the solution isn't neutral centrism;' it's politically engaged organizations with epistemic integrity. As we face decisions about AI deployment, climate adaptation, and economic transformation, we need information infrastructure that serves democracy. Key insight: "Don't try to take the politics out of information, but try to get it right." Guest: Professor E.J. Fagan, Associate Professor of Political Science at the University of Illinois Chicago and author of "The Thinkers: The Rise of Partisan Think Tanks and the Polarization of American Politics" (Oxford University Press)

    1h 4m
  2. 09/29/2025

    Illinois's AI Mental Health Law with State Representative Bob Morgan, Assistant Majority Leader and Floor Whip' within the IL House Chamber

    Illinois just made history. In August 2025, Governor Pritzker signed the Wellness and Oversight for Psychological Resources Act, and the first law in the nation (possibly the world) to regulate AI in mental healthcare. In this episode, we sit down with State Representative Bob Morgan, Assistant Majority Leader and Floor Whip' within the IL House Chamber, the architect of the Wellness and Oversight for Psychological Resources Act to understand how Illinois moved from concept to law in just nine months, what the legislation actually does (and doesn't do), and why this matters far beyond state borders. Rep. Morgan brings a unique perspective as both a healthcare attorney with decades of experience and a state legislator navigating the complex intersection of innovation, safety, and regulation. From his work implementing the Affordable Care Act to managing Illinois's Ebola response, he's seen firsthand how technology and healthcare policy collide. In this conversation, you'll learn: What prompted the urgent need for AI mental health regulationHow the law protects patients without stifling healthcare innovationWhy licensed professionals can still use AI to augment their practiceThe political dynamics of passing first-in-the-nation tech legislationWhat other states are learning from Illinois's modelWhere AI regulation is headed nextWhether you're a healthcare provider, tech builder, policy professional, or simply concerned about AI's role in mental health, this conversation offers rare insight into how thoughtful regulation is actually developed. Guest: Rep. Bob Morgan, Illinois State Representative (58th District), Partner at Benishlaw, former General Counsel for Illinois Department of Public Health Host: Khullani Abdullahi, Founder of Techne AI Listen now to understand the policy framework that may shape AI healthcare regulation across America.

    42 min

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Welcome to AI in Chicago, the podcast where cutting-edge artificial intelligence meets the heart of the Midwest. From interviews with AI investors, researchers at top universities, and founders at rising startups to city officials leveraging machine learning to improve public services, AI in Chicago brings you stories, insights, and conversations that bridge the global and the hyperlocal. This show dives deep into the evolving world of AI through the lens of Chicago’s rich cultural, entrepreneurial, and academic landscape.

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