The Lydia McGrew Podcast

Lydia McGrew Podcast

The goal: To take common sense about the Bible and make it rigorous. I'm an analytic philosopher, specializing in theory of knowledge. I've published widely in both classical and formal epistemology. On this channel I'm applying my work in the theory of knowledge to the books of the Bible, especially the Gospels, and to apologetics, the defense of Christianity. My aim is to bring a combination of scholarly rigor and common sense to these topics, providing the skeptic with well-considered reasons to accept Christianity and the believer with well-argued ways to defend it.

  1. Oct 26

    More on Bad and Good Multiple Attestation Claims

    Even when we have multiple accounts saying the same thing, each account must have *some* credibility for what it narrates. Conjoining multiple individually worthless accounts of an event does not magically create powerful testimonial evidence by mere multiplication. That point follows from the very nature of testimonial evidence, as John Earman pointed out. While multiple attestation can be a very powerful tool, once you have stripped the individual attestations of *all* force, you can't go back and fix matters just by saying that you have more than one.Moreover, when accounts are so changed that we really don't know what we mean by attesting to the same event, multiple attestation also doesn't work, because there is no "it" that is multiply attested. For example, the account of the saying, "I thirst" doesn't attest to the saying, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" And the account in Luke 5 of Jesus making a great catch of fish at the beginning of his ministry, before he has even died, doesn't attest to a post-resurrection appearance.Here on the Wayback Machine is Licona's response to Bart Ehrman in which he makes a bad argument that the authors of the infancy stories would be reporting secure core facts, due to "multiple, independent attestation," even if they were engaging in wholesale invention of incidents.https://tinyurl.com/LiconavsEhrmanHere is an article I published in the journal Themelios on some of these issues:https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/finessing-independent-attestation-interdisciplinary-biblical-criticism/

  2. Oct 26

    Entanglement and Minimalism 4

    More on bad methods and false premises that underlie non-conservative scholars' acceptance of premises that the minimalist wants to use. It's assumed that if C. H. Dodd and/or Dale Allison accepts that the disciples had some kind of group experience, this must be something they are forced to by strong reasons. So maybe we can dig back down to those reasons and finally find something unentangled.But no. Dodd uses form criticism, an epistemically bankrupt method, to try to find "concise" snippets of "early tradition" embedded invisibly in the Gospels' otherwise made-up resurrection accounts. That he thinks some sort of group experience happened (tho' even the "concise" narratives contain, according to him, apologetic "expansions") is a result of his assumption that this method has objective value--a false premise that we shouldn't treat as legitimate.Similarly, Dale Allison uses a completely faulty notion of multiple attestation (really, multiple embellishment, to the point of unrecognizability) to conclude that the disciples had some kind of group experience. But he almost gleefully emphasizes that the changes are probably so radical that not much is left to be affirmed.For more on Habermas's misunderstandings of Dodd, see this series:https://lydiaswebpage.blogspot.com/2024/05/gary-habermass-misunderstandings-of-c-h.htmlFor more on misuses of multiple attestation, see these videos:https://youtu.be/I5fuHkEqOZ4https://youtu.be/EGVlEhtv0Zo

  3. Sep 13

    Gregor's Weak Explanation 3

    Here I wrap up my discussion of Kamil Gregor's pareidolia explanation of the resurrection evidence.I first ask whether Gregor is fairly representing the claims of Christian scholars like Michael Licona and Craig Evans concerning Greco-Roman history. Unfortunately, his use of their claims is not all that far off, despite the fact that they would no doubt want to disclaim the extent to which he takes them. But the allegedly comforting "limits" on sheer invention, including invention of whole incidents, which they place on their ideas of Greco-Roman historical conventions, are far from apparent in their own work, and they appear to be more of a sop to calm down conservative audiences than a principled stance. On the other hand, I have argued that it is all wrong anyway to say that it was part and parcel of ancient history to make stuff up, so not only is Gregor wrong about that, so are Licona and Evans.Then I turn to the more interesting question for this mini-series: Does Gregor's invocation of alleged ancient norms which permitted sheer invention salvage his explanation of the Gospel stories we have? Nope. He's still dragged down by his initial claim, discussed last week, that the disciples thought they only saw Jesus appearing from heaven, not on earth.And then there's the whole "fake points don't make points" issue. It's an odd thing: Why are some skeptics squeamish about saying that the Gospel authors lied?Here's Gregor's appearance on Mythvision:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FWyZRnI4e8

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The goal: To take common sense about the Bible and make it rigorous. I'm an analytic philosopher, specializing in theory of knowledge. I've published widely in both classical and formal epistemology. On this channel I'm applying my work in the theory of knowledge to the books of the Bible, especially the Gospels, and to apologetics, the defense of Christianity. My aim is to bring a combination of scholarly rigor and common sense to these topics, providing the skeptic with well-considered reasons to accept Christianity and the believer with well-argued ways to defend it.

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