The Beyond Capture Podcast

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Beyond Capture is a podcast by Umony, hosted by CEO Dean Elwood, exploring how firms can leverage the vast amounts of data they capture and transform them into a powerful asset.Umony provides capture, archiving and AI-native surveillance solutions to help enterprises navigate governance and regulatory challenges. Featuring Chief Compliance Officers, regulatory compliance experts and industry leaders, we discuss how to move beyond data collection and transform compliance into a proactive and strategic function.

Episodes

  1. Jun 16

    Moving from Implementation to Intent

    In this episode of Beyond Capture, Dean Elwood, CEO of Umony, and Alan Charbonneau, CTO, cover a lot of ground on where AI is actually heading, and what it means for the people in its path. Which jobs are genuinely at risk and which are more protected than people assume? Why might bureaucracy and regulation prove a more durable barrier than human intelligence? And why did white-collar and technical roles go first, when nobody expected them to? The conversation also takes in what we lose when technology optimises away the social texture of everyday interactions, recursive self-improvement, the GPU supply crunch, whether frontier model companies have a sustainable business model at all, and the governance headache facing any large organisation trying to keep up. On the software side, UI remains the last genuinely hard problem, the cost of code is heading towards zero, and the developers who will thrive are the ones willing to become architects rather than coders. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:07 AI & Jobs What's on the Chopping Block?  04:10 Bureaucracy Is the Final Boss  05:54 Do We Still Want to Deal with Humans?  10:25 Japan, Gen Z & the iPad Coffee Shop  16:48 White Collar Went First - The AI Jobs Surprise  21:26 Robotics, Blue-Collar Safety & the Feedback Loop Problem  24:04 Recursive Self-Improvement & the Frontier Model Race  31:43 AI Everywhere: The Governance Challenge  38:29 Security Armageddon Good AI vs Bad AI  45:41 Are We in a GPU Subsidy Bubble?  48:55 Commoditisation & the Return of Timeshare  53:30 The Last Frontier: Why AI Still Struggles with UI Design  56:01 Developers Won't Disappear They'll Become Architects  1:03:20 Applications on Demand and the End of Traditional Software Development  1:08:52 The New Skills of the AI Era: Communication, Empathy, and Trust  1:14:57 Beyond Productivity: How AI Changes Human Experience  Full output from the prompt: https://chatgpt.com/share/6a2c0c10-0f9c-83eb-82cd-75278aa3d19a

    Moving from Implementation to Intent

  2. May 13

    Closing the Next Compliance Gap

    In this episode of Beyond Capture, Dean Elwood, CEO of Umony, brings together Tracey McDermott, former Acting Chief Executive of the Financial Conduct Authority and former Group Head of Conduct, Financial Crime and Compliance at Standard Chartered, and Stephen Sanders, former Chief Compliance Officer EMEA at J.P. Morgan. The discussion focuses on the role of enforcement in shaping behaviour across financial services, and how cultural reform is driven within firms. Tracey McDermott explains how regulators use enforcement to set expectations, while responsibility for cultural change remains with leadership inside organisations. Stephen Sanders adds a practitioner perspective on how firms respond to regulatory pressure and embed accountability. The conversation also looks at where firms remain underprepared this year, including gaps in how culture is assessed, how conduct risk is managed across business lines, and how regulatory expectations are translated into day to day practices. The episode brings together regulatory and industry perspectives on how enforcement, leadership, and internal culture interact in practice.   Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:17 What Do Recent Enforcement Cases Tell Us About 2026 03:15 Is the Regulator–Firm Relationship Really a Partnership? 06:14 Why This Relationship Is Cyclical 12:33 The Limits of the Partnership 18: 23 What Compliance Leaders Do After an Enforcement Case Hits 22:34 Connecting the Dots in Compliance 28:35 What Firms Aren’t Ready For in 2026 36:47 AI, Legacy Systems & New Blind Spots 43:24 Rethinking the Three Lines of Defence 53:33 What Good Regulatory Dialogue Looks Like 57:49 Breaking Down Compliance Silos 1:03:43 Rethinking Suspicious Activity Reporting 1:08:26 The Shift from Human to Machine Oversight 1:15:53 The Reality of Regulatory Divergence 1:21:29 Global Standards Without a Global Regulator 1:24:39 Speed Round: Risk, AI & Regulation

    Closing the Next Compliance Gap

  3. Apr 8

    From the FCA to Global Banking

    In this conversation, Dean Elwood speaks with Tracey McDermott, former Acting Chief Executive of the Financial Conduct Authority and former Chief Compliance Officer at Standard Chartered. Drawing on her experience on both sides of the regulatory divide, Tracey reflects on how misconduct emerges inside financial institutions, what regulators look for when things go wrong, and how banks can build stronger cultures of accountability. The discussion covers the mortgage endowment scandal, LIBOR, the challenge of rebuilding trust in financial regulation, and the evolving role of compliance as data and AI reshape the industry. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:17 From Litigation to the Financial Regulator 04:29 The mortgage endowment mis-selling case 07:22 Rebuilding Trust in the Regulator 10:17 The Reality of Leading a Public Regulator 12:56 The role of boards in risk oversight 15:25 The Hidden Patterns Behind Financial Misconduct 18:05 Enforcement vs Culture in Financial Institutions 20:27 Why the LIBOR Scandal Changed Everything 22:47 Individual Accountability vs Systemic Failure 26:34 The Hardest Problems Finance Still Has 30:27 The Gap Between Regulation and Reality 32:00 Looking Back on a Career in Regulation and Banking 33:58 The Future of Compliance and the Role of AI

    From the FCA to Global Banking

  4. Feb 25

    Building Assurance and Resilience Across Suppliers

    In this episode of Beyond Capture, Dean Elwood, CEO of Umony, speaks with Corinna Mitchell, General Counsel of Symphony, about supply chain risk, operational control and regulatory resilience in financial services. The conversation examines how resilience obligations extend through the supply chain, the role of certifications such as ISO 27001, ISO 42001 and SOC 2, and why accreditation and verification of those certifications matter. Corinna explains how financial institutions assess control and security across vendors and subcontractors, how critical and important suppliers are identified, and how proportionality is applied in practice. They also discuss regulatory expectations under DORA, where responsibility remains with financial entities, and how technology providers are preparing through contractual frameworks, governance and supplier oversight. The episode concludes with a look at how firms assess vendor risk, manage subcontractors, and present resilience and assurance in an increasingly complex regulatory environment. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:15 Introduction: Off-Channel Communications in Finance 02:57 WhatsApp Fines & Regulatory Crackdowns 05:45 Data Privacy & End-to-End Encryption 08:09 AI, Analytics & Human Oversight 10:25 Explainability, Auditability & AI Risks 13:36 Certifications: ISO, SOC 2 & Trust Signals 16:51 DORA & Operational Resilience 18:34 Supply Chain and vendor risk 21:32 Certifications, Accreditation & Vendor Due Diligence 30:28 Cloud, Data Locality & Multi-Region Failover 37:55 Global Standards & Harmonisation Challenges 42:37 Product Vision – Analytics, Interoperability & Workflows 47:29 Identity, Trust & The Future of Communication 54:28 Outages, Geopolitics & Preparedness 59:09 Pen Testing, Red Teams & Cyber Defence 01:03:56 Closing: Practical Steps for Secure Communications UKAS - United Kingdom Accreditation Service - https://www.ukas.com UKAS Certcheck - https://certcheck.ukas.com The UK National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) runs CHECK, and publishes a directory of assured CHECK providers - https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/schemes/check/find-an-assured-check-provider CREST positions itself as an accreditation body for cyber security service providers and maintains a searchable member directory - https://www.crest-approved.org/members/

    Building Assurance and Resilience Across Suppliers

  5. Jan 22

    Do We Really Trust AI?

    In this wide-ranging conversation, Dean Elwood, CEO of Umony, sits down with Alan Charbonneau, CTO of Umony, to explore one of the most pressing questions in today’s AI landscape: what does it really mean to trust intelligent systems? From hallucinations and explainability to hybrid lexicons, human-in-the-loop workflows, and the limits of agentic systems, Dean and Alan break down where AI delivers, where it fails, and why progress may be shifting from “jobs” to “tasks.” They discuss the plateau of model quality, the risks of synthetic data polluting the internet, the economics of failed AI initiatives, and whether we’re chasing AGI for innovation or for the trophy. Along the way, they examine how UX, curation, and “AI seasoning” may hold the key to making AI actually useful, safe, and trustworthy. It’s a conversation about technology, but also about ethics, governance, and what remains fundamentally human as automation scales.   Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:11 Trusting AI: Where Do We Begin? 03:35 Explainability, Citations & Transparency 06:44 Regulators, Risk & 100% Data Coverage 08:13 Beyond Red Flags: Business Insights & Green Flags 11:14 The Limitations of Lexicons & Fuzzy Models 13:44 The Future Without Lexicons 15:22 Human in the Loop: Why It’s Not Going Anywhere 20:09 AGI: A Goal or a Distraction? 23:39 Big Tech, Valuations & the Trophy Problem 25:59 Apple, Trust & Risk 30:36 The AI Hype Cycle & ROI Reality 33:05 Radiologists, Tasks & Human Judgment 34:57 Chat Interfaces vs Better UX 40:31 When AI Gets Things Wrong  44:58 The Future of Dashboards 47:29 AI in Small Doses

    Do We Really Trust AI?

  6. 12/04/2025

    Compliance: From Office of No to Office of Unlock

    In this conversation, Dean Elwood, CEO of Umony, speaks with Dr. Hemma Lomax, Deputy General Counsel, Vice President, and Global Head of Ethics and Compliance at DocuSign, about how purpose, empathy, and neuroscience can transform corporate culture. A former SEC prosecutor and criminal barrister, Hemma shares her journey from enforcing rules to redefining how organizations build trust, integrity, and responsible growth. Together, they discuss leadership, culture, and “the Office of Unlock” — Hemma’s approach to turning compliance from a function of control into a driver of ethical decision-making and innovation. The discussion also explores how regulation, human behavior, and data governance are evolving in the age of AI, and what this means for the future of ethics and compliance in business. Chapters:  00:00 Intro  01:11 Origins and Early Drive  03:22 Building a Global Career  06:17 Resilience and Purpose  09:06 Decision-Making and the Brain  12:21 Radical Empathy and Everyday Integrity  20:34 The Office of Unlock  29:27 Culture, Leadership, and Human Impact  33:50 Vulnerability and Doing Hard Things  35:23 Parenting, Compliance, and Agency  39:08 Influence, Media, and the Power of Messaging  45:44 Compliance as Influence and Trust  52:10 Regulation and Responsibility  1:01:42 Regulators and the Risk Mindset  1:03:56 Data, Trust, and the Green Flag Links to Hemma’s channels: Unless The Podcast  https://www.youtube.com/@UnlessThePodcast/videos Great Women in Compliance https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD0gUglo89BrSri7MCOCDi0Ovza2bcrrN

    Compliance: From Office of No to Office of Unlock

  7. 10/29/2025

    From Language to Intelligence: Risks, Ethics, and Human Progress

    In this wide-ranging conversation, Umony CTO Alan Charbonneau sits down with Dietmar Fauser, CIO of Symphony, to explore how language, intelligence, and progress intertwine in the age of AI. From the evolution of trader voice analytics to the rise of agent-to-agent systems, Dietmar shares how Symphony is bridging human communication and machine understanding, and what it means for industries built on trust, compliance, and speed. They discuss the limits of large models, the ethics of autonomous systems, and whether humanity can truly manage the pace of its own progress. Along the way, they reflect on the nature of intelligence, the future of work, and the moral systems that keep us human in an age of accelerating machines. Chapters:  00:00 Intro  01:01 Technology, scale, and the Symphony platform  03:19 From trading floors to AI: Symphony’s evolution  07:06 The rise of generative AI and the moment everything shifted  15:12 Teaching machines to understand trader language  21:46 AI, autonomy, and agent-to-agent systems  32:03 The risks of progress and the need for guardrails  38:50 Jobs, disruption, and the new AI economy  43:47 Are large models plateauing?  49:19 What do humans still do best?  56:34 “We are programmed for progress”: the accelerationist view  01:02:15 Unlocking collective intelligence Here’s the link to the research mentioned in the podcast: https://futurism.com/facebooks-language-creating-ai-bots-are-now-required-to-negotiate-in-english

    From Language to Intelligence: Risks, Ethics, and Human Progress

  8. 07/21/2025

    Smarter Compliance: A Conversation with Sally Dewar and Stephen Sanders

    In this special three-way conversation on Beyond Capture, Dean Elwood is joined by Sally Dewar, former Managing Director of Risk at the FCA, and Stephen Sanders, former Chief Compliance Officer EMEA at J.P. Morgan, two influential voices in financial regulation and risk. Together, they unpack the post-2008 regulatory landscape, explore the shifting balance between safety and growth, and dive into the far-reaching implications of the EU’s DORA legislation. If you’re navigating third-party risk, operational resilience, or tech-driven compliance, this episode offers grounded insight from leaders who’ve shaped the system, from both sides of the regulatory fence. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro 00:33 – Setting the Stage: Are We Safer? 02:04 – The Problem of Risk Displacement 09:06 – Innovation, Growth & Regulatory Balance 18:03 – DORA: Why It Matters More Than You Think 25:12 – Smarter Compliance, Proactive Culture 28:41 – Final Thoughts & What Comes Next

    Smarter Compliance: A Conversation with Sally Dewar and Stephen Sanders

  9. 06/01/2025

    The Compliance Playbook: Adapting to an AI Driven World

    In this episode of Beyond Capture, Umony CEO Dean Elwood sits down with Stephen Sanders, former Chief Compliance Officer EMEA at J.P. Morgan and a compliance veteran of over 40 years. Stephen reflects on his journey from the early days of handwritten trade records to today’s AI-driven compliance landscape. They discuss the critical turning points that have shaped financial regulation, including the landmark Zubulake case, the rise of electronic records and the growing importance of proactive data management. For anyone navigating the complex world of compliance, this episode provides valuable insights into the past, present and future of financial oversight. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro 00:24 – Early Days in Compliance 01:15 – The Shift from Notebooks to Digital Records 04:13 – Turning Points in Financial Regulation: The Zubulake Case 10:45 – Records, Risk, and Responsibility 17:41 – Technology and the Rise of AI in Compliance 28:02 – The Subjectivity of Regulatory Standards 35:08 – Preparing for the Next Compliance Challenge

    The Compliance Playbook: Adapting to an AI Driven World

  10. 05/15/2025

    Unprompted Insights: Conversations in AI

    In this forward-looking conversation, Umony CEO Dean Elwood sits down with CTO Alan Charbonneau to explore how large language models (LLMs) are reshaping how we think about intelligence, agency and creativity. From early “magic moments” in autocomplete to AI’s role as research assistant, creative partner and code generator, they reflect on the speed of innovation, the future of programming and what real-world AGI might look like. They also discuss what sets human creativity apart, and whether AI can (or should) develop taste, agency and originality. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro 00:44 – The First Magic Moment with AI 02:50 – Creativity vs. Imitation 06:55 – How AI Changes the Way We Code 10:29 – Regulation, Control & Responsibility 14:46 – What Makes Intelligence Human? 21:45 – Where AI Is Going Next

    Unprompted Insights: Conversations in AI

  11. 04/16/2025

    How the LIBOR Scandal Changed Banking: A Conversation with Sally Dewar

    In this wide-ranging discussion, Dean Elwood talks with Umony Advisory Board member Sally Dewar — an experienced finance professional whose career spans KPMG, the London Stock Exchange’s regulatory division, the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and JP Morgan. Sally recounts her front-row seat to the upheaval of the financial crisis, offering a behind-the-scenes look at regulatory challenges and the major cultural shifts that followed. If you’re curious about how the banking world really works behind the headlines — and what the next evolution of risk, regulation and AI-driven compliance might look like — this episode gives an insider perspective on the changing face of finance. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 00:27 Sally’s Career Journey 02:57 Inside the LIBOR Scandal 08:16 Regulatory Evolution 18:35 Role of Technology 29:21 Culture & Conduct 30:25 Future Outlook FCA update as pointed out in the podcast: ⁠https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/mar/12/financial-watchdog-scraps-plan-to-name-and-shame-uk-firms-under-investigation

    How the LIBOR Scandal Changed Banking: A Conversation with Sally Dewar
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Beyond Capture is a podcast by Umony, hosted by CEO Dean Elwood, exploring how firms can leverage the vast amounts of data they capture and transform them into a powerful asset.Umony provides capture, archiving and AI-native surveillance solutions to help enterprises navigate governance and regulatory challenges. Featuring Chief Compliance Officers, regulatory compliance experts and industry leaders, we discuss how to move beyond data collection and transform compliance into a proactive and strategic function.

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