Improving Your Digital Marketing, with John and Cliff

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The improving Your Digital Marketing Podcast by John and Cliff is designed to help small and medium sized business owners to know how to market their business digitally to improve revenue and to gain more clients/customers. John and Cliff have collectively more than 35 years serving clients in digital marketing.

Episodes

  1. Leveraging AI for Small Business Marketing and Business Growth

    Apr 7

    Leveraging AI for Small Business Marketing and Business Growth

    Summary: This episode explores the current state and future of AI, its impact on small businesses, digital marketing for small business, and how to leverage AI tools effectively while maintaining human oversight. Hosts John and Cliff discuss AI limitations, opportunities, and practical applications for lead generation, customer service, and marketing. Sound Bites:   "AI is heading for sentience by 2030""AI is more of an amplification tool""Invest in AI as an add-on, not a replacement"    Chapters:   00:00 Introduction and Initial Banter00:52 The Rise of AI and Its Limitations02:48 AI's Impact on Jobs and Business05:43 The Role of Human Oversight in AI08:49 Effective Use of AI for Small Businesses12:02 Challenges and Frustrations with AI14:53 AI in Lead Generation and Customer Interaction17:45 The Future of AI and Its Accessibility22:45 The Role of AI in Business Listings24:29 Understanding AI's Impact on Search Results27:07 The Future of Google vs. AI30:03 The Subjectivity of Truth in the Digital Age32:23 Utilizing AI for Business Efficiency35:54 Marketing Strategies in an Economic Downturn38:50 SEO and AI: A Symbiotic Relationship41:16 The Importance of Custom Marketing Solutions  Resources:   Google AI - https://ai.google/ChatGPT - https://chat.openai.com/SEMrush - https://www.semrush.com/MakeItLoud Digital Marketing - https://makeitloud.net/

    47 min
  2. Navigating Small Business Marketing in a Tough Economy S2E1

    Apr 3

    Navigating Small Business Marketing in a Tough Economy S2E1

    Navigating Small Business Marketing in a Tough Economy: In this episode, John Lehmberg and Cliff discuss practical strategies to sustain and grow your small business amid economic uncertainty. They emphasize the importance of a strong online presence, including websites, SEO, and Google Business Profiles, while debunking myths about traditional marketing channels. Key Insights: The current economy presents unique challenges, such as rising gas prices and consumer confidence issues, impacting business revenues and marketing budgets.  Many small businesses tend to cut marketing budgets prematurely, risking a death spiral — especially when organic and digital channels can be optimized effectively.  A well-maintained and modern website is crucial; outdated sites can drive prospects away and hurt conversion rates. Google Business Profiles are free, highly valuable assets for local SEO and should be fully utilized with photos, reviews, and verification videos.Consistency in reviews and posting photos on your profile significantly impacts local ranking and customer trust.AI tools like ChatGPT influence search traffic but currently represent a small percentage; optimizing your profile remains vital.During downturns, investing in digital assets and marketing (websites, SEO, profiles) offers high ROI; pulling back may endanger your visibility.Networking, referrals, and even personal social media posts can generate leads without large campaigns.Your unique selling proposition (USP) or hook needs to be clear and visible quickly — whether on websites, profiles, or social media.Reallocation of marketing budgets towards high-impact strategies like Google Profiles or website upgrades yields rapid return.Timestamps: (00:00) - Introduction: How small businesses are coping during economic downturns(02:08) - Impact of political upheaval and war on consumer spending(03:05) - Why pulling marketing budgets could lead to a death spiral(04:17) - The shift to digital sales calls and the need for online marketing(05:47) - The influence of AI and its current market share(06:35) - Economic uncertainty and consumer confidence(07:19) - Why investing in a good website is essential(08:09) - The importance of website quality on conversion(09:09) - Crafting your unique selling proposition for marketing(10:38) - Evaluating outdated websites and how they damage trust(13:50) - The importance of Google Business Profiles and managing reviews(15:14) - Optimizing your profile and the significance of photos and reviews(16:43) - The impact of review consistency on local SEO rankings(17:24) - The verification process through videos and listing addresses(19:26) - How Google Maps AI pulls data from your profile(20:08) - Estimated click percentages and importance of local search ranking(22:51) - The importance of handling negative reviews professionally(27:16) - The cost-effectiveness of website optimization(30:21) - Measuring marketing success beyond bank accounts(31:25) - The value of competitiveness in local SEO and paid ads(33:08) - The ROI of website investments and quick payback(35:29) - Shifting focus to ROI instead of bank balance(36:29) - Networking, referral groups, and their evolving role(38:57) - The decline of traditional networking effectiveness in a post-COVID world(39:40) - Changes in social interactions, digital banking, and how younger generations engage(41:26) - Business impacts on local service sectors like plumbing(44:55) - Reaffirming that SEO remains relevant and beneficial(45:22) - The importance of strategic marketing versus busywork(46:51) - Redirecting marketing efforts from social media to search engines(47:49) - Tracking metrics like followers, engagement, and rankings(48:23) - The necessity of reallocating marketing dollars to effective channels(48:43) - Incentivizing small business owners to seek free consultations(49:11) - Wrap up and encouragement: Stay connected and proactiveResources & Links: Make It Loud - Digital Marketing Agency  www.makeitloud.netGoogle Business Profile GuideSEO and Local Search OptimizationChatGPT (OpenAI)Google Maps AI UpdatesConnect with the HostsJohn Lehmberg - LinkedInCliff - LinkedInEmail: info@makeitloud.net Remember: In challenging times, strategic digital marketing investments—like updating your website and optimizing your Google Business Profile—can deliver quick wins and sustainable growth. Don’t rely solely on hope; take action today!

    50 min
  3. New Business Digital Marketing and Must Do's S1E5

    09/04/2025

    New Business Digital Marketing and Must Do's S1E5

    Summary   In this conversation, John and Cliff discuss the essential steps for new business owners, emphasizing the importance of a strong online presence, particularly through a well-designed website and Google Business Profile. They explore the significance of branding, social media, and effective marketing strategies, while also addressing common pitfalls and the need for proper planning and budgeting. The discussion highlights the evolving landscape of digital marketing and the necessity for businesses to adapt to remain competitive.     Takeaways   Invest in a good website as your digital front door.You have six seconds to answer three key questions on your website.Choosing a memorable business name is crucial.Check for domain availability and trademarks before finalizing your business name.Setting up a Google Business Profile is essential for visibility.Collecting and responding to reviews can improve your ranking.Social media channels are important for business outreach.Develop a comprehensive marketing and business plan.Budget for marketing efforts to ensure business growth.Hiring professionals for branding and design can yield better results.Chapters   00:00 Introduction and Overview of New Business Challenges03:00 The Importance of a Good Website06:02 Essential Steps for New Business Owners09:04 Choosing a Business Name and Domain11:57 Trademark and Legal Considerations15:01 Setting Up Your Google Business Profile

    49 min
  4. The Dark Side of Digital Marketing - S1E4

    08/06/2025

    The Dark Side of Digital Marketing - S1E4

    Summary   In this engaging conversation, Cliffy and John delve into the complexities of digital marketing, focusing on the prevalent issues of fraud and mismanagement within the industry. They discuss the alarming statistic that 75% of clients have been ripped off by digital marketing agencies, emphasizing the importance of transparency, proper website design, and the necessity of owning one's domain. The duo also highlights the pitfalls of paid advertising and the critical role of hosting in website performance. Throughout the discussion, they provide valuable insights and practical advice for small business owners looking to navigate the digital marketing landscape effectively.     Takeaways   75% of people who try digital marketing get ripped off.If it sounds too good to be true, it is.You don't have to be a coder to manage a website.Many clients have lost thousands to ghosting agencies.Always own your domain name and keep it in your account.Not all hosting services are created equal; speed matters.You can't afford to set it and forget it with paid ads.Investing in marketing is crucial for success.Review portfolios and case studies before hiring agencies.We prioritize honesty and transparency in our services.    Sound bites   "You don't have to be a coder.""They're ghosting me.""We don't sell disappointment."    Chapters   00:00 Introduction and Light Banter02:58 The Reality of Digital Marketing Fraud08:55 Understanding Website Costs and Value14:58 SEO Strategies and Misconceptions18:43 Paid Advertising Pitfalls23:47 The Importance of Active Marketing Management28:41 Domain Ownership and Digital Real Estate33:35 The Role of SEO in Business Success38:35 Understanding Hosting and Site Performance43:39 Navigating Digital Marketing Costs and Expectations48:35 Choosing the Right Digital Marketing Partner

    49 min
  5. The Future of AI and SEO. Is Search Engine Optimization Dead? S1E3

    08/01/2025

    The Future of AI and SEO. Is Search Engine Optimization Dead? S1E3

    Summary   In this engaging conversation, John and Cliffy discuss the evolution of search engine optimization (SEO) in the context of artificial intelligence (AI) and its impact on digital marketing. They explore the misconceptions surrounding the idea that SEO is dead, emphasizing that it is more alive than ever, especially with the rise of AI tools. The duo reflects on their experiences with SEO, the importance of staying updated with changes, and the need for human intervention in navigating the complexities of AI in search. They also touch on the future of search, the accuracy of AI-generated information, and the fragmentation of search engines.     Takeaways   SEO is not dead; it's evolving with AI.AI has significantly changed the landscape of SEO.Staying updated is crucial for SEO professionals.Good content is essential for visibility in AI searches.AI tools can amplify productivity for SEO specialists.Search is becoming more fragmented with various platforms.Human intervention is still necessary in SEO strategies.Businesses need to adapt to new AI-driven search trends.Video content is increasingly important for SEO.SEO agencies will continue to thrive despite changes.

    38 min
  6. Knowing Where to Spend Your Digital Marketing Dollars S1E2

    07/07/2025

    Knowing Where to Spend Your Digital Marketing Dollars S1E2

    Summary   In this episode of the Make It Loud podcast, hosts Cliffy and John discuss the intricacies of digital marketing, emphasizing the importance of effective spending on social media and the distinction between proactive and reactive marketing strategies. They explore the challenges businesses face in navigating digital marketing, the role of SEO, and the effectiveness of paid advertising, particularly on platforms like Google and Facebook. The conversation highlights the need for businesses to assess their competition and ROI before investing in marketing strategies, ensuring that their efforts lead to tangible results.     Takeaways   Digital marketing can be a black hole if not done correctly.Proactive marketing drives clients to you, while reactive marketing responds to problems.Not all businesses benefit from social media marketing.Boosting posts on social media is often ineffective.A bad website can lead potential customers to competitors.Understanding your competition is crucial for effective marketing.SEO remains a vital component of digital marketing.Google Ads can be effective if used correctly, but competition is fierce.The ROI of marketing efforts must be evaluated before spending.AI is changing the landscape of SEO and digital marketing.Chapters   00:00 Introduction and Podcast Expectations00:59 Understanding Digital Marketing Challenges03:45 The Importance of Effective Social Media Spending06:59 Paid Advertising vs. Boosting Posts09:51 Proactive vs. Reactive Marketing Strategies12:57 Identifying the Right Marketing Channels

    31 min
  7. Why Your Digital Marketing Isn't Working S1E1

    04/16/2025

    Why Your Digital Marketing Isn't Working S1E1

    Summary In this conversation, John and Cliff from Make It Loud discuss the challenges small and medium-sized businesses face in digital marketing. They highlight common pitfalls, the importance of SEO, and the need for effective website design. The duo emphasizes the significance of tracking performance through analytics and the necessity of choosing the right platform for a website. They also delve into the importance of understanding ROI in marketing efforts and the value of consultations to develop effective strategies. Throughout the discussion, they stress the importance of transparency and trust in the marketing process, aiming to educate business owners on how to effectively market their services. Takeaways Many businesses struggle with ineffective digital marketing strategies.A significant percentage of clients have wasted money on poor marketing services.SEO is often mismanaged, leading to wasted resources.Analytics are crucial for measuring website performance and effectiveness.Website design must meet industry standards to attract customers.Choosing the right platform, like WordPress, is essential for SEO success.Understanding ROI is critical for justifying marketing expenses.Consultations can help businesses identify the right marketing strategies.Transparency in marketing services builds trust with clients.Effective marketing requires a good website as a foundation.Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Digital Marketing Expertise01:52 Common Pitfalls in Digital Marketing06:06 The Importance of SEO and Website Design11:49 Choosing the Right Platform for Your Website17:49 Understanding ROI in Digital Marketing23:56 Consultation and Strategy Development29:55 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

    36 min
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The improving Your Digital Marketing Podcast by John and Cliff is designed to help small and medium sized business owners to know how to market their business digitally to improve revenue and to gain more clients/customers. John and Cliff have collectively more than 35 years serving clients in digital marketing.

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