Light the Campfire

Hedda Rehnberg and Lise Pretorius
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Light the Campfire is a space for the big, messy questions shaping our lives and futures. Hosts Lise Pretorius and Hedda Rehnberg explore inner and outer transformation with thought leaders within inner development, tech, spirituality, sustainability, finance, climate, and beyond - with humility, courage, collective wisdom - joined by experts with cosmic mischief.

  1. Too Sensitive? Think Again: Understanding the Highly Sensitive Person | Dr. Elaine Aron

    Jun 23

    Too Sensitive? Think Again: Understanding the Highly Sensitive Person | Dr. Elaine Aron

    In this episode, we sat down with Dr. Elaine Aron — the world's leading voice on the trait of high sensitivity. Over twenty-five years ago, Elaine was the first researcher to identify, name, and study this trait scientifically, coining the idea of the highly sensitive person (HSP), and her work has since become the foundation for how the world understands and talks about sensitivity. Through her research, books, and the resource hsperson.com, she has given language to something millions of people have felt their whole lives but never had a word for. In this conversation, Elaine challenges the idea that highly sensitive people are all alike, explaining how childhood environment, gender, introversion versus extroversion, and even high sensation-seeking can make HSPs more different from one another than people without the trait. We explore what a "highly sensitive superhero" might actually look like, why depth of processing is often invisible until a crisis hits, and how sensitive people can learn to stand up for the value they bring. And finally, We’ve had a vision of making Light the Campfire a place to also explore intergenerational wisdom, or a place to capture what we can learn from our elders.  Elaine shares with us why spiritual awakening alone doesn't guarantee wisdom or goodness, what collective responsibility is, and why it would serve us to grow from group-centered thinking toward a world-centered one. This conversation is not only for people who identify as sensitive, but for anyone wanting to show up more fully in the world.

    44 min

  2. May 16

    How to Think Differently: Why Thinking Isn't Enough | Michelle Zucker

    We often overlook the many layers of what forms our human experience. If we want to think differently - whether for our love of life, our work or own transformation - what else do we need to truly create something different? Is thinking enough or do we need to access other dimensions and sensory layers in the way we process, access and integrate various insights from within ourselves and across domains? We sit down with Michelle Zucker, a systems change designer and Dark Matter Labs collaborator, and an expert in how to think and be differently. We invite the powers of our sensory tentacles, serendipity, awe and more.

    50 min

  3. Apr 16

    Brave Space: Say the Unsaid, Lead Anyway | Patrick Frick

    Many of us have learned to hold back what we really feel to keep things smooth, to avoid tension. But in doing so, our conversations often stay on the surface, and the real work is left undone. Our guest, Patrick Frick, has spent 25 years bringing leaders together to collaborate on challenges where no one is in charge. In this episode, we explore what it takes to lead in the messy in-between: where no one has formal authority, agendas collide, and contexts can shift from complex to chaotic rather than towards consensus and understanding. A brave space isn't about having the right title or the perfect answer, it's about stepping in anyway: naming the tension rather than managing it, welcoming discomfort rather than smoothing it over, and meeting honesty with care. This conversation helps us get honest about what that actually requires of us - the willingness to show up and act when no one else will, whether around the family table, our most intimate relationships, or in the rooms where our shared future gets decided.

    45 min

  4. Feb 17

    From Punishment to Relationship: A Conversation on Restorative Justice | Patrick Heneghan

    What if justice wasn’t about punishment, but about accountability, repair, and our shared humanity? Today we’re around the campfire with Patrick Heneghan, Director of Restorative Justice for Cheshire County, New Hampshire, exploring what it truly means to repair harm with compassion. In this episode, we learn how to make room for restorative healing - whether within the justice system or in our day-to-day relationships. These interrelational tools aren’t something most of us are taught, which is exactly why this conversation matters. Whether you’re curious about criminal justice, community conflict, or navigating challenges in your own life, this dialogue invites you into a different understanding of justice - one rooted in courage, responsibility, and connection. Patrick’s journey bridges adult education, systems change, and deep relational practice. Since creating and leading the Cheshire County Restorative Justice program in 2020, he has worked with victims, those who have caused harm, community members, prosecutors, and correctional institutions to transform how justice is understood and experienced, shifting the focus from punishment to restoration.

    1h 1m

  5. Jan 17

    The Cyclical Wisdom of Womanhood | Sanna Aulén

    What if PMS could be a superpower? We as women are cyclical beings, yet often move as if life was linear. Instead of attuning to natural phases and the wisdom they bring, we tend to adapt to be constantly “likable”, nurturing, and extroverted. And it seems we’re missing out. In this episode, we speak with Sanna Aulén, expert in women’s holistic and postpartum health, somatics and therapeutic bodywork. We explore how listening differently to our body, honouring our emotions (without getting attached to them) and embracing our cyclical wisdom can guide us back to self-discovery, empowerment, more energy and deeper connection. This is also for everyone who has women in their lives, this conversation is an invitation: to celebrate sensitivity (as receptiveness to life around us), reclaim power, and tap into the gifts that being a cyclical being brings to ourselves, our relationships, and our world.

    50 min

  6. 12/16/2025

    The Economy Is an Invention - Let’s Unmake It, and Make It Again | Prof. Lorenzo Fioramonti

    What if the economy isn’t broken but the game we’ve been playing is? Humanity has long played the ‘chimpanzee game’ of competition and extraction, but what if we could learn from the bonobos' collaboration: balance, and thriving together? Today, we sit down with Prof. Lorenzo Fioramonti - Italy’s former Minister of Education, member of the Club of Rome, Academic Director of NATIVA Campus (a new training academy for regenerative leaders), and leading voice in the movement for a wellbeing economy. From New Zealand measuring child well being in its national budget to innovations quietly reshaping production, consumption, and everyday life across the globe, Lorenzo shows us that we already have the tools to design an economy that serves people and planet alike. All that’s missing is the ability to connect the dots and imagine a system designed for life, not just growth.

    52 min

  7. 11/18/2025

    Talking Pensions to F**k You Funds: Women Breaking the Money Taboo | Elisabeth Prager

    Statistically women invest their money less than men.However, when they do, they outperform men. Why is it then that women invest less? What would it take to ensure women engage more with their financial futures and why is this so important to talk about it? Much of the issue (alongside many historical and structuralfactors) lies in the fact that women talk less about $$$ amongst themselves. It’s for this reason we’re so excited to have Elisabeth Prager around the campfire. With a background in insurance and pensions, private banking, consulting and founding a fintech to close the gender wealth gap, Elisabeth helps women overcome the many barriers that block them from these important conversations. In a time where people live longer and can expect less public pension support ahead, this talk couldn’t be more important. Together we explore how to think about financial futures,how to divide our salaries, how to educate our children to be responsible, how to learn from each other, and more.

    46 min

  8. 10/31/2025

    The New Power Race: AI, Ethics, and the Future of our Planet

    Power, ethics, and technology are being rewritten in realtime. Artificial intelligence is changing how the world works and who holds the reins. We’re joined by Anne Marie Engtoft Meldgaard, Denmark’s TechAmbassador and head of the country’s pioneering TechPlomacy initiative - a diplomatic mission that stands at the intersection of governments, Big Tech, and global governance. Our conversation explores some of the most defining questions of our time: if tech and AI development are a race, what happens when we prioritize speed over wisdom? Do we inherently then compromise ethics? Why we need to understand technology as deeply securityrelated? In this context, why is it important that Europe has a say and we don’t leave our future up to two global superpowers? We ask if regions like Europe can catch up to increase their tech sovereignty; can we infuse meaning, purpose and community into how AI is adopted, and can we retain agency and remain human?

    40 min
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Light the Campfire is a space for the big, messy questions shaping our lives and futures. Hosts Lise Pretorius and Hedda Rehnberg explore inner and outer transformation with thought leaders within inner development, tech, spirituality, sustainability, finance, climate, and beyond - with humility, courage, collective wisdom - joined by experts with cosmic mischief.

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  • Creator
    Hedda Rehnberg and Lise Pretorius
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    17
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Hedda Rehnberg and Lise Pretorius
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    Light the Campfire