The Super Urban Podcast

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SUP – The Super Urban Podcast is a conversation about cities and how they’re designed; how we imagine them and how we could re-imagine them. Cities are the most complex things ever constructed and they are also our everyday, barely noticed environment. We’re here for a talk about cities from as many perspectives as possible. Each episode will focus on a specific theme, blending diverse viewpoints and engaging with broader contexts like history, economics, politics, and current social issues. The Super Urban Podcast is hosted by Ian Nazareth, Graham Crist and Christine Phillips.

  1. Sep 21

    The Public Architect with Finn Williams

    This episode of the Super Urban Podcast explores one of the most pressing questions facing architecture today: what happens to architectural agency when the architect becomes increasingly separated from the institutions and systems that produce cities? The conversation with Finn Williams traces the transformation of architecture from a public and civic practice towards a profession increasingly operating within market-driven systems of development, land value and investment. The discussion asks how architects might regain influence byengaging more directly with the systems through which urban futures are shaped. The conversation examines Williams’ work through Public Practice, an organisation established to rebuild design capacity within local government by embedding architects and urban designers inside public institutions. From here, the discussion moves to his role as City Architect of Malmö and the possibility of redefining what a city architect does: not simply designing projects, but creating the conditions, processes and institutional capacities through which better urban decisions can emerge. Planning, procurement, policy, regulation and administration are considered not merely bureaucratic constraints, but potential forms of urban design and, in Williams’ terms, a possible shift from bureaucracy towards ‘plureaucrocracy’. The episode also projects towards the future architect: a practitioner operating across policy, technology, governance, climate, procurement and civic systems. The discussionsuggests that its field of agency may be expanding, from designing buildings towards designing the conditions through which cities become possible. Finn Williams is an architect, urbanist and public sector design leader whose work focuses on rebuilding the relationship between architecture and civic institutions. He is the founder of Public Practice, an organisation established to address thedecline of design capacity within local government by embedding architects and urban designers within public institutions. He is currently City Architect of Malmö, where he continues to explore how architectural thinking can operatewithin complex civic systems. Williams’ work challenges conventional assumptions about architectural authorship, expertise and power, asking whether some of the most consequential architectural projects of the future might notbe buildings, but the institutions, processes and frameworks through which cities are made. The conversation was recorded in Melbourne during Williams’ visit for the Living Cities Forum, with support from the Naomi Milgrom Foundation. Check out the references from this episode.

    The Public Architect with Finn Williams
  2. Jun 12

    Hyper Cities with Winy Maas

    This episode of the Super Urban Podcast ventures into one of the most expansive propositions in contemporary architectural thinking: that everything is urbanism. Drawing from Winy Maas's 2019 guest editorship of Domus, theconversation explores what it means when the city is no longer a bounded object but a total condition — absorbing climate systems, data networks, food production, finance, and human behaviour into a single, planetary field of design. The discussion moves through the long arc of MVRDV's data-driven and speculative work — from Metacity/Datatown and Pig City to FARMAX and KM3 — tracing how architecture shifted from describing objects to modelling systems,using data not as neutral optimisation but as a critical tool to expose contradictions and test urban limits. The conversation also tackles the concept of Biotopia — a future where buildings operate as living ecosystems — alongside the transformation of infrastructure into culture, asseen in projects like Depot Boijmans Van Beuningen. Threading through each of these themes is a consistent tension: does the expansion of architecture's scope intoecology, biology, economics, and atmosphere empower the discipline or risk dissolving its capacity to act and resist? The episode closes with a preview of Sky City, a project developed through The Why Factory currently being co-taught as a studio at RMIT University in Melbourne, which asks what urbanism becomes when the sky itself is treated as a designed, contested, and algorithmically governed urban layer. Winy Maas is a Dutch architect, urbanist, and co-founding partner of Rotterdam-based MVRDV, established in 1993 alongside Jacob van Rijs and Nathalie de Vries. His leadership has driven many of the office's award-winning projects, including Rotterdam's Markthal, the Tianjin Binhai Library, and Depot Boijmans Van Beuningen — the first publicly accessible art depot in the world. He is also the founder of The Why Factory, a research laboratory dedicated to speculativeurban futures, and holds professorships at both MIT and TU Delft.  Check out the references from this episode.

    Hyper Cities with Winy Maas
  3. May 10

    Senseable Cities with Fabio Duarte

    This episode of the Super Urban Podcast turns to the city as a live, legible system — one that can be continuously read, measured, and acted upon in real time. The concept of the 'senseable city', as developed through the work of the MIT Senseable City Lab, is presented not simply as a technological proposition, but as a fundamental shift in how we understand, describe, and design urban environments. As layers ofsensors, networks, and data settle over urban space, the city ceases to be something we merely represent — it becomes something we can sense, interpret, and respond to as it unfolds.   The conversation moves across a series of related provocations: the tension between legibility and overload as data multiplies; the question of who this new visibility actually serves — citizens, governments, or the algorithms increasingly acting on their behalf; and the implications of a shift from long-term planning toward continuous, real-time adjustment. The Lab's prototypical projects are framed as a particular mode of practice — neither purely speculative nor fully deployed — that makes new urban possibilities visible and tangible before they are absorbed into everydayinfrastructure. Alongside this, the episode surfaces the ethical dimensions of the datafied city: questions of ownership, power, and the risk that sensing infrastructures, however neutral in appearance, may quietly reinforce existing structures of control.   The episode closes by holding open a space for uncertainty within the increasingly knowable city. If friction, delay, andunpredictability have historically generated social and cultural life, the question becomes: what should resist optimisation? As the city begins to resemble a feed — constantly refreshed, continuously informing and responding — the conversation asks whether anything can, or should, remain outside thesystem. It is a question as much about values as about technology, and one that sits at the heart of contemporary urban practice.Check out the references from this episode.

    Senseable Cities with Fabio Duarte
  4. May 7

    Global Cities with Caroline Bos

    This episode of the Super Urban Podcast centres on the evolving nature of urban practice — from the design of discrete forms toward the orchestration of complex systems. The conversation frames contemporary urbanism as a practice of alignment: between infrastructures andecologies, between global operations and local conditions, between the physical fabric of cities and the digital layers increasingly woven through them. Rather than a single authored vision, the city emerges as a negotiated, continuously updated condition — one shaped by logistical, environmental, financial, and technological forces that extend far beyond architecture's traditional reach.   Against this backdrop, Caroline Bos reflects on decades of practice at UNS — formerly UNStudio — a networked firmwhose work spans architecture, infrastructure, and urban strategy across the globe. The conversation moves across several of the studio's defining interests: the role of infrastructure as a primary spatial generator (as seenin projects such as Arnhem Central Station and the Mercedes-Benz Museum); the studio's early engagement with diagrammatic and proto-digital thinking and its evolution into today's more immersive, data-driven environments; and thegrowing pressure on architecture to operate at territorial and regional scales — a condition exemplified by projects such as THE LINE and Expo City. Bos addresses the tension between global expertise and local specificity, and what authorship might mean within systems that no longer belong to any single discipline.   The episode closes on questions of speculation and agency. Architecture, the conversation suggests, cannot simplyrespond to the conditions it finds itself within — it must work through its entanglement with governance, environment, technology, and infrastructure to identify new forms of influence, even as certain forms of control are relinquished. Sustaining space for radical ideas within the constraints ofglobal practice remains one of the central challenges — and, perhaps, one of the discipline's most defining responsibilities.  Check out the references from this episode.

    Global Cities with Caroline Bos

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SUP – The Super Urban Podcast is a conversation about cities and how they’re designed; how we imagine them and how we could re-imagine them. Cities are the most complex things ever constructed and they are also our everyday, barely noticed environment. We’re here for a talk about cities from as many perspectives as possible. Each episode will focus on a specific theme, blending diverse viewpoints and engaging with broader contexts like history, economics, politics, and current social issues. The Super Urban Podcast is hosted by Ian Nazareth, Graham Crist and Christine Phillips.

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