The Step UP - Where Leaders, Talent Managers and Leadership Development pros find expert tips for Leadership excellence

Kent Kniebel

About the Podcast The Step Up brings together experts who help leaders elevate their impact. Each 45-minute episode features conversations with thought leaders, practitioners, and innovators who are changing how we think about leadership development and helping leaders step up their game. Why This Podcast Exists Throughout my career—from my time at organizations like Korn Ferry, Cargill, General Mills, and Buffalo Wild Wings to my current work as an independent leadership consultant—I've witnessed firsthand how leaders struggle during moments of change and transition and when learning higher-level skills. Work never slows down, and leaders often find themselves trying to grow while in the thick of daily demands. The Step Up is designed to provide practical wisdom and actionable strategies that busy leaders can implement immediately to enhance their effectiveness. What to Expect Each episode follows a two-part format: Part One: Leadership Journeys We explore our guest's background, expertise, and unique perspective on leadership development. You'll hear authentic stories about their experiences supporting leaders and the insights they've gained along the way. Part Two: Actionable Strategies Our guests share three specific, practical tools or approaches that you can apply to your leadership right away. We dig into each one, discussing how to implement it effectively in your unique context. Your Host Kent Kniebel brings over 20 years of experience in leadership development, talent management, and DEI consulting to each conversation. Drawing on his background in corporate HR roles and external consulting work, Kent guides discussions that bridge theory and practice, focusing on what really works in today's leadership landscape. Connect with Kent Have questions about the podcast or want to continue the conversation? Connect with Kent on LinkedIn or visit Kniebel Leadership Advisory to learn more about his work supporting leaders during critical transitions.

  1. FEB 3

    The Six Secrets to Human Performance: Unlocking Your Team's Potential w/ Elena Agaragimova

    Elena Agaragimova is a global talent development expert, speaker, and Co-Founder of Shiftwell.ai—a human-centered performance and wellbeing platform. With over 15 years of experience spanning higher education, corporate learning, and entrepreneurship, Elena helps individuals and organizations unlock growth through practical, neuroscience-backed strategies. She’s passionate about building high-performing, soul-centered workplaces and preparing the next generation for the future of work. The future of leadership hinges on understanding how our nervous systems operate, especially for those in charge. We dive deep into the six essential elements that drive human performance: mindset, career, health, relationships, environment, and purpose. It's all about creating a vibe where leaders can thrive without burning out, because let’s be real, if you’re operating out of fear, you’re bound to blow things up at work. We chat with talent management expert Elena Agaragamova, who shares her insights on how organizations can cultivate a healthier work environment by checking in on these elements. So, whether you're leading a team or supporting someone who is, this episode is your roadmap to fostering a more engaged and productive workplace. Kent Kniebel, your podcast host, opens the floor to a riveting discussion with Elena Agaragimova, a dynamo in talent management. The episode is a treasure trove for anyone wanting to level up their leadership game. We explore how the six elements that drive human performance—mindset, career, health, relationships, environment, and purpose—are crucial for creating a thriving workplace. Elena's experience transitioning from academia to corporate consulting is a testament to how understanding these elements can boost not just individual performance but also organizational culture. Elena emphasizes the importance of a leader’s mental state, noting that if you’re leading from a place of fear or burnout, it’s like trying to navigate a ship through a storm without a compass. The conversation flows into the practical side of things—how companies often treat wellness as an afterthought, tossing out yoga mats and Fitbits instead of fostering a culture of well-being. We even tackle the elephant in the room: the outdated approach to employee engagement that many companies are still clinging to. As we navigate through each element, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own experiences and think critically about the systems in place at their organizations. If you’ve ever felt like you’re on a hamster wheel at work, this episode is a must-listen. By the end, you’ll be itching to implement some of these insights and transform your workplace from the inside out! Links for today's show: Elena's Linked In PageElena's websiteShiftwell.aiKent's Linked In PagePromoted Leader Playbook **Music for this podcast comes from the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on PertNeaerSandstone.com and on all

    45 min
  2. JAN 20

    Hard Skills vs. Soft Skills: The Ultimate Showdown w/ David Boelens

    David Boelens is the Integrated Talent Development (ITD) lead for Operations, Supply Chain, and Quality at Raytheon, an RTX Company. The ITD mission is aimed at connecting people with questions to people with answers in a personal, scalable, and sustainable way. Prior to working at Raytheon, David served in the United States Army as a Cavalry Officer. At Raytheon, he has held roles of increasing responsibility in Operations, Supply Chain, Digital Technologies, and Learning and Talent Development. David has a Bachelor’s degree in History from Texas A&M University, and a Masters in Supply Chain and Entrepreneurship from Texas Christian University. Breaking down skills into bite-sized pieces is the name of the game in today’s chat! We’re diving into how hard skill training can actually teach us a thing or two about soft skills, and trust me, it’s pretty enlightening. Think of it like baking a cake: the more you practice and refine each step, the better your results get—whether you’re whipping up a dessert or mastering leadership skills. Our guest, David Bolens from Raytheon, shares some golden nuggets on how defining individual skills empowers growth, making you a more effective leader over time. So grab your apron, because by the end of this episode, you’ll be ready to mix both hard and soft skills into a recipe for success! Diving headfirst into the sweet and savory world of skill development, we take on the age-old debate of soft skills versus hard skills. Picture this: baking a cake or whipping up some killer enchiladas. Sounds fun, right? But what if I told you that the secret to mastering these culinary delights lies in breaking down each task into bite-sized chunks? That's the essence of our conversation today! With guest David Bolens, the mastermind behind integrated talent development at Raytheon, we explore how dissecting tasks empowers everyone from interns to seasoned pros to elevate their game. David shares his journey from the army to the corporate world, revealing how his experiences shaped his view on skill acquisition. Forget about the traditional labels of 'hard' and 'soft' skills; we’ve got people skills, process skills, and tool skills to dive into! By embracing this fresh perspective, we can tackle everything from giving feedback to mastering complex processes with finesse. So whether you're a newbie or a seasoned leader, tune in to discover how breaking things down can lead to more delicious outcomes in your professional kitchen! Takeaways: Baking a cake or making enchiladas, it's all about breaking down tasks to achieve your goals, not the other way around, you feel me?In learning and development, breaking skills down into individual parts empowers us to improve and master new things over time, like baking that perfect cake!Soft skills and hard skills are like two sides of the same coin; understanding each can enhance the other and lead to better leadership outcomes.We often overlook the importance of how soft skills can teach us nuances in hard skills, emphasizing adaptability and critical thinking in the workplace. Links for today's show: David's Linked In PageKent's Linked In Pagea href="https://kent.coach/playbook"...

    44 min
  3. 12/30/2025

    Scaling with Soul: Building a Culture that Thrives w/ Kasia Hatcher

    As a certified executive coach, Organizational Development strategist, Impact Measurement & Learning expert, and founder of The Trusted Edge, Kasia Hatcher helps strong women and mission-driven organizations lead with clarity, grounded confidence, and measurable impact. Her 20+ years across 20+ countries includes coaching political appointees, senior foreign service officials, and leaders at Google, Deloitte, and the U.S. State Department. Her approach blends systems thinking, human-centered design, emotional intelligence, and a faith-rooted belief in the power of leading from the inside out. Today, we're talking about scaling your business while building and/or maintaining your culture. A good coach doesn’t just hand you a roadmap; they trust you’ve got the answers within and help you ask the right questions to bridge that pesky inside action gap. Today, we’re diving deep into the art of building and maintaining a kickass culture while scaling your business, especially for all you women founders out there. Our guest, the brilliant Kasha Hatcher, shares her journey from international development to coaching, where she emphasizes that creating a thriving workplace culture starts with intention and trust. We chat about the importance of slowing down to make those aligned decisions that can propel your growth without burning out. So, if you’re ready to step up your leadership game and cultivate a vibe that keeps your team engaged and thriving, you’re in for a treat! Navigating the wild world of scaling a business can feel like trying to juggle flaming swords while riding a unicycle, right? In this enlightening chat, we’re diving deep into the nitty-gritty of creating a solid company culture as you grow from a one-person show into a bustling team. Kasia Hatcher, our brilliant guest, shares her journey from international development to executive coaching, highlighting the importance of intentional culture-building from the get-go. She emphasizes that a good coach, much like her, won’t just hand you the answers on a silver platter; instead, they’ll help you dig deep into your own motivations and insights. We explore the trials and triumphs of women founders, the inner battles of perfectionism, and the necessity of trust—both in yourself and in your team. This isn’t just about managing people; it’s about creating an environment where everyone feels valued and connected to the mission, even as the ship sails into uncharted waters. So grab your headphones, kick back, and let’s unpack how to scale smartly and sustainably while keeping a vibrant culture alive. Trust me, you won’t want to miss these gems of wisdom! Takeaways: A great coach won't just hand you answers; they'll create space for you to find them yourself, which is pretty dope.Trust is key in coaching—helping clients bridge the gap between insight and action is what it's all about.When scaling a business, intentionally crafting your culture from day one is crucial for long-term success and team alignment.Women founders often struggle with perfectionism and trusting others, which can hold back their business growth.Creating a culture that promotes trust and shared understanding among team members leads to better collaboration and innovation.Slowing down to make aligned decisions is way more effective than rushing through tasks—remember, quality over quantity! Links for today's show: span class="ql-ui"...

    46 min
  4. 12/16/2025

    The 3D Strategy: Daniel Stewart on Determine, Discuss, Develop for Top Talent!

    Daniel Stewart is an Executive Consultant & Coach and serves as President of Stewart Leadership, a global leadership, team, and organizational consulting, training, and coaching firm. He is based out of Milwaukee, WI and has developed thousands of leaders over the past 25 years. He is also the co-author of the award-winning book LEAD NOW: A Personal Leadership Coaching Guide for Results-Driven Leaders. Today, we're diving into the nitty-gritty of how to connect development strategy with talent and organizational strategy, all while making sure we’re not just going through the motions. Our main takeaway? If you see something, say something! Seriously, feedback is the name of the game, folks. It’s all about keeping those lines of communication open because without regular feedback, we’re all just spinning our wheels, creating wild narratives in our heads that can lead to misunderstandings and drama. We chat with Daniel Stewart, an executive coach who's got stories to share about how organizations can better align their talent strategies with what they actually need to drive success. Whether it’s about clarifying your talent philosophy or making sure everyone knows the importance of regular check-ins, we’re all about practical advice you can actually use. So, buckle up and get ready for some insightful banter that’ll have you thinking about your own leadership game! Diving into the deep end of leadership strategies, we chat about the crucial connection between development and talent strategies, and how they tie into organizational effectiveness. It’s not just about throwing training programs at employees and hoping for the best; it’s about crafting a cohesive approach that aligns with the overall business goals. We explore how feedback can be the secret sauce that keeps everything bubbling along. When leaders start communicating regularly—think casual chats rather than formal reviews—they not only help their teams flourish but also create a culture of openness. We share insights from our guest, Daniel Stewart, who emphasizes that feedback isn’t just a checkbox; it’s a continuous conversation that prevents misunderstandings and builds trust. If you've ever had a moment where you wondered if your team felt supported, this episode is for you. We break down how to get that dialogue going and keep it flowing, ensuring everyone is on the same page about the organization's direction and individual growth paths. Plus, we tackle the importance of understanding where you currently are as a company and where you want to be, making sure that your talent strategy is not just aspirational but rooted in reality. In this episode, we dig into the '3D model' of talent strategy—Determine, Discuss, Develop. First off, it’s all about determining what skills are needed to meet business goals. Sounds simple, right? But you'd be surprised how often it gets overlooked. Next, we discuss the importance of having open conversations about performance and potential. This isn’t just about identifying who’s the best or worst performer; it’s about a collaborative approach where feedback is shared and aspirations are aligned. Finally, we talk about development—how to invest in your people in meaningful ways that resonate with both their personal growth and the organization's future. It’s about moving from a reactive to a proactive stance in talent management, ensuring that training is not just a one-off event but part of an ongoing journey. So, whether you’re a seasoned leader or just stepping into the role, this episode is packed with nuggets of wisdom on how to elevate your leadership game and foster a thriving workplace culture. Navigating the choppy waters of organizational talent strategy can be tricky, but that's where we come in to guide you through the murky depths! We kick things off with a look at how organizations often approach talent development like it’s a quick fix—a...

    44 min
  5. 12/02/2025

    How Leaders Maintain Belonging During Layoffs with Ericka Jones

    Ericka Jones is here to create a spark. A spark for change. A spark of inspiration for transformation. She utilizes her expertise in innovative and strategic leadership to embed programs throughout organizations. She has a deep background in Operations, HR, Learning and Development and DEI. We met while we were both working at Cargill. In today's episode, we're diving into some heavy but super relevant territory: the whole deal with belonging during layoffs. The big takeaway? You can't control the outcome of layoffs, but you can totally control how honest and transparent you are with your team during these turbulent times. We chat about how crucial it is for leaders to foster a sense of belonging, even when making tough decisions. After all, when folks feel seen and valued, it builds trust and engagement, which is like the secret sauce for keeping morale up. So, if you’re a leader, whether you’re dealing with layoffs or just navigating the workplace vibes, we’ve got some solid advice on how to keep those connections strong and help everyone feel like they belong, no matter the chaos around them. Grab your headphones and let’s get into it! Ericka Jones, our insightful guest, brings her wealth of experience in leadership development and DEI to the table, shedding light on how layoffs can shake the very foundation of team dynamics. We discuss the psychological impacts on both those who are let go and those who remain, often referred to as 'survivors.' Erica emphasizes that even when hard decisions must be made, leaders have the power to foster an atmosphere of belonging through honesty, empathy, and open communication. We dive into the concept of ‘psychological safety’ and how allowing team members to express their feelings can lead to a stronger, united front. Listeners will walk away with actionable strategies to implement in their own teams, ensuring that the values of trust and belonging are not just buzzwords, but lived realities, especially in challenging times. Takeaways: In times of uncertainty, leaders must prioritize creating a sense of belonging among their teams, especially during layoffs. Transparency is key; leaders should openly communicate the reasons behind tough business decisions to alleviate employee fears. High trust teams see greater engagement, so fostering trust through honest communication is essential for any workplace. Recognizing and appreciating team members' contributions is crucial, as it reinforces their value and helps maintain morale during difficult times. When layoffs occur, it’s vital to support both the departing and remaining employees to ensure everyone feels valued and not isolated. Leaders should frame challenging situations as opportunities for growth, encouraging employees to see transitions as new chapters, not just endings. Links for today's show: Ericka's Linked In PageKent's Linked In PagePromoted Leader Playbook **Music for this podcast comes from the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on PertNeaerSandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms.** *Editing by Fynn Gentle / www.fynngentle.com

    47 min
  6. 11/18/2025

    Trust the Process PART 2: Finding Your Next Career Move Without the Stress with Molly Conlin Peterson

    Molly Conlin Peterson is an executive and career transition coach with over 23 years of experience helping thousands of professionals, leaders, and executives find more meaningful work. Her approach blends positive psychology with the research of Dr. Brené Brown, guiding clients to lead with courage, purpose, and heart. Molly has worked with organizations like Wells Fargo, 3M, SoFi, Feeding America, Better Up, and the University of Minnesota, where she also taught Strategic Career Planning. She holds an MA in Human Development, is a PCC-level ICF Certified Coach, and is certified in a range of career and leadership assessments, including MBTI, Strong Interest Inventory, and Leadership Circle Profile. Join us for Part 2 of our coonversation! The folks snagging the best jobs? They’re not always the most qualified, but they sure know how to stretch their comfort zones. In this episode, we’re diving into how taking that extra little reach—like asking for help or putting yourself out there—can seriously amp up your job search game. We’re chatting about the importance of networking and sharing tips on how to do it without feeling like you’re begging for a handout. It’s all about building that muscle, folks; the more you flex it, the easier it gets to tackle those awkward conversations. So, grab your favorite drink, kick back, and let’s figure out how to make those connections count! Let's get real for a moment – job hunting can feel like a personal attack sometimes, right? It’s like you’re laying your heart out there with every application, hoping for a little love in return. In today’s convo, we’re chatting with the fabulous Molly Conlon Peterson about navigating the job market post-layoff, and boy, does she have some solid advice! We start off by discussing how the best candidates aren’t always the ones with the most accolades but those who are willing to step out, take risks, and ask for help. It’s all about that hustle, baby! In this second part of our conversation, Molly gives us the lowdown on the importance of networking, which can feel like climbing a mountain without gear. But fear not! She swears by 'The 20 Minute Networking Meeting' as a game-changer. This book lays out a killer framework for networking meetings that can turn those awkward coffee chats into productive conversations. And let’s face it, who wouldn’t want a plan to make those meetings feel less like pulling teeth? We also dive into the emotional aspect of job searching, like, how do you keep your chin up when rejection feels like it’s raining down? By the time we wrap up, Molly shares her wisdom on embracing discomfort as part of the growth process and encourages listeners to keep pushing through the tough spots. It’s all about practicing that courage muscle! So if you’re feeling like a deer in headlights, tune in for some uplifting insights to guide you through the job market jungle. Takeaways: Getting a job isn't just about being qualified; it's about being bold and taking risks. Networking can feel awkward, but it's essential; just reach out and start the convo. Building your networking muscle makes job hunting easier; practice makes it less scary, trust me! Don't just settle for any job; know what you want and ask the right questions. Resumes should show results; think about how your actions made a difference in your past roles. Self-care is crucial while job hunting; be kind to yourself and stay positive through the process. Links for today's show: Molly's Linked In PageMolly's websiteKent's Linked In...

    34 min
  7. 11/11/2025

    Trust the Process: Finding Your Next Career Move Without the Stress with Molly Conlin Peterson

    Molly Conlin Peterson is an executive and career transition coach with over 23 years of experience helping thousands of professionals, leaders, and executives find more meaningful work. Her approach blends positive psychology with the research of Dr. Brené Brown, guiding clients to lead with courage, purpose, and heart. Molly has worked with organizations like Wells Fargo, 3M, SoFi, Feeding America, Better Up, and the University of Minnesota, where she also taught Strategic Career Planning. She holds an MA in Human Development, is a PCC-level ICF Certified Coach, and is certified in a range of career and leadership assessments, including MBTI, Strong Interest Inventory, and Leadership Circle Profile. We're diving into Career Transitions, slowing down to speed up. Seriously, when life throws you a curveball—like getting laid off—it's all too easy to panic and rush into the job market. But hold your horses! Taking a moment to breathe and really feel what you're going through can lay a solid foundation for your next move. We chat about how to dream big, explore what's possible, and self-reflect on what you genuinely want, all while equipping yourself with the tools to show up stronger in interviews and meetings. So, grab your favorite drink, kick back, and let’s unravel the art of transitioning with a sprinkle of courage and a dash of humor! The world of career transitions is a wild ride, especially when the news is filled with layoffs and uncertainty. In our recent chat with career coach Molly Conlon Peterson, we unpack the emotional rollercoaster that comes with losing a job and how to navigate it with grace. Molly emphasizes that it’s completely normal to feel all sorts of emotions when faced with a layoff—shock, anger, confusion—you name it. But here’s the deal: instead of rushing into the job market, we should take a moment to collect our thoughts and really think about what we want next. It’s about hitting the pause button to dream a little, to explore what feels right for us, and to lay the groundwork for a successful job search. As the conversation unfolds, we dive into the nitty-gritty of what to do after a layoff. Molly shares that it’s crucial to do some inner work first—getting clear on your skills, your values, and what you want to achieve in your next role. She introduces the concept of a 'Best Self Profile' to help you articulate your strengths and what you’re looking for moving forward. And while it’s tempting to throw your resume at every job out there, Molly suggests a more strategic approach: take your time, understand what you truly want, and craft your story to align with that vision. In this job market, it’s not just about getting a job; it’s about getting the right job that fits you like a glove. Then, we pivot to the power of networking and how to leverage connections effectively. Instead of the old 'I need a job' line, Molly encourages a more thoughtful approach: be specific about what you need and how others can help you. Whether it’s asking for introductions or advice, networking should feel like a supportive conversation rather than a transactional exchange. Lastly, both Kent and Molly agree that showing compassion and empathy during these times is crucial—not just for those who are laid off but also for those left behind. We all have a role to play in supporting each other through these transitions, fostering a community that uplifts and empowers. So whether you're navigating your own career storm or helping a friend, remember: take it slow, stay connected, and keep the faith that the right opportunity is just around the corner. Takeaways: Taking a moment to collect your feelings can set the stage for better decision-making in career transitions. Slowing down the job search process can lead to landing in a better place and being more prepared. Understanding your strengths, values, and what you truly enjoy doing is...

    48 min
  8. 11/04/2025

    The Art of Storytelling in Leadership: Grab Your Audience by the Heart with Ash Seddeek

    Ash Seddeek is a leadership communications advisor and speaker coach to Fortune 100 executives. He’s the founder of the Executive Greatness Institute and creator of the Chief Excitement Officer philosophy and the Free Up → Think Up → Speak Up framework, helping leaders transform communication moments into momentum. Ash has coached leaders at Cisco, Uber, and Google to communicate with clarity, conviction, and excitement that moves people to action. Leaders often think they just need to show up and drop some brilliant ideas in meetings. But, as we dive into this episode, we discover that effective leadership is so much more than that. It’s all about the art of storytelling as a strategic tool to get everyone on board and ready to roll with change. Our guest, Ash Siddiq, breaks down how crafting the right narrative can build conviction and commitment among teams, making it easier to navigate the ups and downs of change management. We’ll chat about the importance of creating a vision, co-creating the steps with your crew, and how to keep the energy high when leading others. So, if you’re looking to elevate your leadership game and get everyone pumped about the future, you’ve hit the jackpot with this episode! Leaders, listen up! If you think simply presenting your ideas is enough, think again! Ash Seddeek joins us to unpack how storytelling can transform leadership effectiveness. He emphasizes that it’s not just about sharing a vision but actively engaging your team in shaping that vision together. This is crucial in change management, where clarity and collaboration can make or break the initiative. Ash argues that when leaders frame their messages through stories, they can capture attention and spark motivation in ways that facts alone can’t. He shares how he helps leaders develop their narrative skills, encouraging them to draw on personal experiences that resonate with their teams. We explore how storytelling not only fosters connection but also helps navigate the tough waters of change, making it easier for employees to embrace new directions. The episode wraps with practical tips for both leaders and their supporters, highlighting the importance of intention and energy in leadership. We also discuss his book, which serves as a practical guide for leaders looking to elevate their game in strategic thinking and storytelling. Takeaways: Leaders often think sharing their ideas in meetings is enough, but they need to actively communicate and engage their teams for effective change management. Storytelling is a powerful tool for grabbing attention and driving commitment within organizations, especially in our digital age where distractions are abundant. Creating a vision for the future involves not just telling stories, but also inviting team members to co-create the steps towards achieving that vision. Leaders should be the 'chief energizers' of their teams, using their own energy to inspire others and create a positive atmosphere for change. To effectively lead change, leaders must differentiate between managing current operations and fostering innovations for the future. Incorporating personal stories or relatable experiences can help leaders connect with their audience and make their messages more impactful. Links for today's show: https://communicatewithclarity.coDownload Ash's 'Meeting with Self' Template: Practice Free Up, Think Up, Speak Up: https://maven.com/eginstitute/strategicleaderjanemail ash at ash@executivegreatness.comStrategic Leader Planner: a...

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About the Podcast The Step Up brings together experts who help leaders elevate their impact. Each 45-minute episode features conversations with thought leaders, practitioners, and innovators who are changing how we think about leadership development and helping leaders step up their game. Why This Podcast Exists Throughout my career—from my time at organizations like Korn Ferry, Cargill, General Mills, and Buffalo Wild Wings to my current work as an independent leadership consultant—I've witnessed firsthand how leaders struggle during moments of change and transition and when learning higher-level skills. Work never slows down, and leaders often find themselves trying to grow while in the thick of daily demands. The Step Up is designed to provide practical wisdom and actionable strategies that busy leaders can implement immediately to enhance their effectiveness. What to Expect Each episode follows a two-part format: Part One: Leadership Journeys We explore our guest's background, expertise, and unique perspective on leadership development. You'll hear authentic stories about their experiences supporting leaders and the insights they've gained along the way. Part Two: Actionable Strategies Our guests share three specific, practical tools or approaches that you can apply to your leadership right away. We dig into each one, discussing how to implement it effectively in your unique context. Your Host Kent Kniebel brings over 20 years of experience in leadership development, talent management, and DEI consulting to each conversation. Drawing on his background in corporate HR roles and external consulting work, Kent guides discussions that bridge theory and practice, focusing on what really works in today's leadership landscape. Connect with Kent Have questions about the podcast or want to continue the conversation? Connect with Kent on LinkedIn or visit Kniebel Leadership Advisory to learn more about his work supporting leaders during critical transitions.