The Step UP - Where Leaders, Talent Managers and Leadership Development pros find expert tips for Leadership excellence

Kent Kniebel
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About the Podcast The Step Up brings together experts who help leaders elevate their impact. Each 45-minute episode features conversations with thought leaders, practitioners, and innovators who are changing how we think about leadership development and helping leaders step up their game. Why This Podcast Exists Throughout my career—from my time at organizations like Korn Ferry, Cargill, General Mills, and Buffalo Wild Wings to my current work as an independent leadership consultant—I've witnessed firsthand how leaders struggle during moments of change and transition and when learning higher-level skills. Work never slows down, and leaders often find themselves trying to grow while in the thick of daily demands. The Step Up is designed to provide practical wisdom and actionable strategies that busy leaders can implement immediately to enhance their effectiveness. What to Expect Each episode follows a two-part format: Part One: Leadership Journeys We explore our guest's background, expertise, and unique perspective on leadership development. You'll hear authentic stories about their experiences supporting leaders and the insights they've gained along the way. Part Two: Actionable Strategies Our guests share three specific, practical tools or approaches that you can apply to your leadership right away. We dig into each one, discussing how to implement it effectively in your unique context. Your Host Kent Kniebel brings over 20 years of experience in leadership development, talent management, and DEI consulting to each conversation. Drawing on his background in corporate HR roles and external consulting work, Kent guides discussions that bridge theory and practice, focusing on what really works in today's leadership landscape. Connect with Kent Have questions about the podcast or want to continue the conversation? Connect with Kent on LinkedIn or visit Kniebel Leadership Advisory to learn more about his work supporting leaders during critical transitions.

  1. 5d ago

    Why DEI Died and Inclusive Leadership Lives | Michelle Edwards

    Michelle Edwards built HR from the ground up at her agency, and she says inclusion was never a program, a committee, or a Chief Diversity Officer's job. It lives or dies with every person who has another human in their care. We talk about why one-time trainings fade, how bias hides in who you delegate to, and why she won't let anyone have a direct report until they've done her Manager Bootcamp. Guest: Michelle Edwards is a 25-year leader, former HR builder, and author of DEI Died, Leadership Lives, who argues the answer to inclusion is holding leaders to a standard of unlocking potential. In this episode: 07:24 - Why DEI was "misunderstood and therefore misexecuted," and why the answer is leadership10:25 - What doesn't work: the Chief Diversity Officer role and the one-time training17:37 - What the data shows: a 50/50 entry level that drops to 70/30 at first-level supervisor21:03 - "That question is why DEI died": quotas, diverse slates, and the "DEI hire" label26:19 - Leading through leaders: check your mirror and call out exclusion29:20 - Delegation as a bias test: who is your go-to person?33:23 - The commandments, including "fire leaders who refuse to lead"37:16 - Advice for leaders seeking promotion: Manager Bootcamp and the GAS strategy Resources mentioned: DEI Died, Leadership Lives by Michelle Edwards (on Amazon and in bookstores)The ten commandments from the book, including "Check Your Mirror," "Unlearn the B******t," "Fire Leaders Who Refuse to Lead," and "Data Doesn't Lie"Manager Bootcamp (Michelle's five-hour, three-part program for new people leaders)The GAS strategy: Go deeper, Take a stand, Lead with love, and Self-efficacy Links for today's show: Michelle Edwards on LinkedIn Michelle's InstagramDEI Died, Leadership LivesKent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit Music for this podcast comes from a live recording of the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on pertnearsandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms. Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review wherever you listen; it helps more leaders find the show.

  2. Oct 20

    Leader Self-Regulation and Mental Health | Andy Nisevic

    Your team can't tell whether your rough day is about them, and that guessing game costs more than most leaders realize. Andy Nisevic, founder of One Degree Coaching and a 23-year Royal Air Force veteran, shares what changed on his floor when he told his people what was going on with him. We dig into why leaders get less support than their staff, why one-size wellbeing programs miss, and why leaders of leaders have to go first. Guest: Andy Nisevic rose from the most junior to the most senior non-commissioned rank in the Royal Air Force, and now coaches teams on sustainable performance, informed by his own mental health struggles as a senior leader. In this episode: 03:28 - Andy's path from the RAF to Flight Sergeant, and the same office before and after getting help13:28 - Why the leaders we call "toxic" are often decent people under pressure16:52 - Why one-size-fits-all wellbeing programs miss, and why wellbeing is individual28:55 - What organizations should actually do, and the ROI of supporting a struggling leader34:10 - Why leaders of leaders need to go first on vulnerability38:32 - Why "look after your team" falls short if you skip looking after yourself41:11 - Advice for leaders seeking their next level43:00 - Advice for the newly promoted Resources mentioned: Influence by Robert CialdiniEmployee Assistance Programs (EAPs)Spring HealthHeadspaceOne Degree Coaching: onedegree.uk Links for today's show: Andy Nisevic on LinkedInOne Degree CoachingKent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit Music for this podcast comes from a live recording of the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on pertnearsandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms. Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review wherever you listen, it helps more leaders find the show.

  3. Oct 6

    Turning Strategy Into Execution | John Manuel

    John Manuel's boss once called him a 30,000 foot thinker living in a thousand foot job. Then a merger turned him from a manager of a few people into a director overnight, with temps to onboard and no leadership training to lean on. John, VP of commercial operations and merchandising at Puris Foods, walks through what he learned about promotion, delegation, and turning strategy into work a team can actually execute. Guest: John Manuel is VP of commercial operations and merchandising at Puris Foods, with a career that includes General Mills, Miller Milling, and Dryland Genetics, and firsthand experience stepping up from manager to director to VP. In this episode: 00:59 - Kent's welcome and John's introduction02:28 - John's career path, from agricultural rail cars to pea proteins07:31 - Why a promotion is a new job, not a reward for the old one11:40 - "30,000 foot person" feedback and the pull toward execution20:11 - Manager to director overnight during a merger26:03 - Running to something instead of from something29:06 - What separates the VP level from director, and the "but" rule35:05 - Delegation, vulnerability, and John's three pillars39:24 - Turning strategy into execution with OKRs43:41 - Advice for aspiring leaders and newly promoted VPs Resources mentioned: High Output Management by Andy Grove (search for this)The Speed of Trust by Stephen M.R. Covey (search for this)The Eisenhower Matrix (search for this)OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) framework Links for today's show: John Manuel on LinkedInPuris Foods website [PLACEHOLDER, add link if you want it]Kent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit Music for this podcast comes from a live recording of the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on pertnearsandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms. Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review wherever you listen, it helps more leaders find the show.

  4. Sep 29

    Magnetic Leadership Starts With Trust | Jennifer Gardner

    Most leaders think charisma is something you're born with. Jennifer Gardner has spent 30 years in Los Angeles courtrooms proving otherwise, and she's built a career teaching lawyers and executives that trust, not polish, is what actually moves people. In this episode she walks through the senior partner who told her she'd never be "a legal genius," how she won cases anyway, and what she's learned about magnetic leadership from CEOs who never once tried to impress her. Guest: Jennifer Gardner is a trial attorney and communication strategist who consults with lawyers and executives on persuasive, trust-based communication in high-stakes situations. In this episode: 01:46 — Meet Jennifer Gardner, trial attorney turned communication strategist05:26 — The boss who told her she'd never be a "legal genius," and how she won anyway09:42 — From courtroom instinct to teaching persuasive communication17:18 — Why charisma is a learnable skill, not a birthright19:59 — The CEO at the Peninsula Hotel: what magnetic leadership looks like up close27:59 — The "big nos": why over-preparing with data and logic backfires34:37 — Self-regulation and "your vibe affects your tribe"36:54 — Her advice for leaders navigating a new promotion Resources mentioned: "The fish smells from the head down" (German leadership proverb Jennifer references)Mirror neurons (the neuroscience behind why a leader's emotional state spreads through a team) Links for today's show: Jennifer Gardner on LinkedInjenniferbgardner.comKent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit Music for this podcast comes from a live recording of the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on pertnearsandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms. Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review wherever you listen, it helps more leaders find the show.

  5. Sep 22

    Servant Leadership Needs Boundaries | Jennylynde Renteria-Packham

    Newly promoted leaders keep their calendars private and their doors closed, then wonder why their team assumes they've stopped doing real work. Jennylynde Renteria-Packham spent two decades leading in long-term care and rehab hospitals before becoming an executive coach, and she joins Kent to talk about servant leadership, boundaries, and why transparency might be the most underused leadership tool there is. Guest: Jennylynde Renteria-Packham spent over two decades leading in long-term care and rehab hospital settings, from director of nursing to director of quality, before founding Courage Coaching, where she now coaches leaders at every level from new manager to CEO. In this episode: [00:50] — Meet Jennylynde: from nursing assistant to director of nursing, quality, and executive coach[07:49] — The mindset shift nobody warns you about when you're promoted off the front line[11:11] — Why healthcare leadership isn't as unique as it looks, and where it actually is[20:06] — The day two of her own staff called her in over an attendance policy[22:50] — Her working definition of servant leadership: humility, decisive ownership, and never throwing a team member under the bus in public[35:20] — "Make your calendar public": transparency, boundaries, and avoiding burnout[45:12] — Leader standard work: documenting your job so your successor doesn't inherit a mess[50:00] — Her advice for leaders chasing the next promotion, and leaders who just got one Resources mentioned: Radical Candor by Kim ScottLeader standard work (Toyota Production System concept)Transforming Health Care: Virginia Mason Medical Center's Pursuit of the Perfect Patient Experience by Charles Kenney Links for today's show: Jennylynde Renteria-Packham on LinkedInhttps://couragecoaching.us/Kent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit Music for this podcast comes from a live recording of the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on pertnearsandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms. Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review wherever you listen — it helps more leaders find the show.

  6. Sep 15

    Building Capability, Not Dependency | Nick Gonios

    Most learning and development spend gets justified by completion rates and course counts, not by whether anyone actually changed how they lead. Nick Gonios, VP of Learning Transformation at TalentLMS, has spent 30 years building and scaling technology companies, and he thinks L&D has been solving the wrong problem for decades. He joins Kent to unpack what he calls the capability paradox, and why building capability, not dependency, has to be the goal. Guest: Nick Gonios is VP of Learning Transformation and company ambassador for TalentLMS (part of Epignosis), with more than 30 years building and scaling technology companies, including roles at Microsoft and Fujitsu, several startups, and a stint as public-facing CEO of a software company listed on the Australian Stock Exchange. In this episode: [00:49] — Kent opens on why "building capability, not dependency" is today's topic[02:13] — Nick's path from Sydney to Athens: 30 years in tech, Microsoft, startups, and taking a software company public[05:16] — Nick's "lowercase L, uppercase T" theory of learning transformation[11:04] — Why HR "plant tours" miss the real problems, and what minimal viable learning looks like instead[19:04] — The Lou Gerstner and IBM story behind "people respect what's inspected of them"[20:28] — The capability paradox: how L&D metrics quietly optimized for the wrong things[27:49] — Why one-to-one coaching has always been too expensive, and what AI changes about that math[42:35] — Nick's advice for leaders in week one of a new role Resources mentioned: Who Says Elephants Can't Dance? Leading a Great Enterprise Through Dramatic Change by Louis V. Gerstner Jr.TalentLMS, TalentHR, and TalentCards Links for today's show: Nick Gonios on LinkedIn TalentLMSKent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit Music for this podcast comes from a live recording of the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on pertnearsandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms. Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review wherever you listen, it helps more leaders find the show.

  7. Sep 8

    Presentation Skills That Build Trust | Bryan Flanagan

    Most leaders think they need better slides or better wording. Bryan Flanagan, who spent 14 years at IBM before a chance meeting with Zig Ziglar turned into a 29-year career at the Zig Ziglar Corporation, says the real gap is almost never content, it's delivery. In this episode, Kent and Bryan dig into why "everybody's in sales" whether it says so on your business card or not, the three keys to a presentation that actually lands, and why the leaders who pause the most tend to be the ones people trust the most. Guest: Bryan Flanagan is CEO of Flanagan Training Group, a 14-year IBM veteran turned 29-year member of the Zig Ziglar Corporation, and a presentation skills coach who has spent decades teaching executives the difference between being comfortable in front of a room and being effective in one. In this episode: 01:50 — Bryan's path: 14 years at IBM, a chance meeting with Zig Ziglar, and a 29-year career that followed04:01 — "Everybody makes a living selling something," even if it's not on your business card07:51 — The three keys to presenting: visual, verbal, and validation13:41 — PowerPoint as a support, not a crutch: the six-lines, six-words rule18:28 — Padding and filler words: what Caroline Kennedy's Senate interview revealed22:15 — The four real benefits of pausing instead of filling the silence27:51 — Working the stage with intention, and the Tom Peters story that shows what happens when you don't34:15 — Advice for leaders chasing a promotion, and for those who just landed one Resources mentioned: Silent Messages by Dr. Albert Mehrabian (source of the 7%/38%/55% communication study)Zig Ziglar and the Zig Ziglar Corporation (Bryan's 29-year career home) Links for today's show: Bryan Flanagan on LinkedInFlanagan Training Group on LinkedInFlanagan Training Group websiteKent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit

  8. Sep 1

    The Future of Learning Is Human: A Conversation on AI and Leadership Development

    AI can compress weeks of instructional design into minutes, but John Pike, founder and CEO of Parisos Partners, argues that speed isn't the same thing as learning. In this conversation, John and Kent dig into what happens when we remove the friction that actually forms people, why cognitive offloading isn't the same as offloading your humanity, and what leadership development gets wrong when it chases efficiency over practice and accountability. Guest: John Pike is the founder and CEO of Parisos Partners, an executive assessment and development firm, with a background spanning finance, Gallup's strength psychology work, and Korn Ferry's assessment practice. In this episode: 02:01 — John's path from accounting to executive assessment and founding Parisos Partners08:23 — Why human-to-human leadership is the work AI won't replace09:01 — How AI has disintermediated instructional design, and why the ROI hasn't shown up yet16:29 — The nephews story: what happens when you rescue people instead of letting them struggle20:49 — What "friction that forms people" actually means for learning professionals23:19 — The rise and fall of the LMS-everything era in leadership development30:46 — Why group coaching and learning circles worked when eLearning alone didn't36:21 — Cognitive offloading: what AI should take off your plate, and what it shouldn't46:16 — Advice for leaders seeking their next promotion48:04 — Advice for leaders in their first 90 days after a promotion Resources mentioned: Bob Pike Group's Creating Training Techniques Conference September 13 - 18, 2026The 70:20:10 learning modelTEDx Minneapolis Links for today's show: John Pike on LinkedInPerissos Partners websiteKent Kniebel on LinkedInThe Promoted Leader Toolkit Music for this podcast comes from a live recording of the song Needle & Thread and is provided with permission by Pert' Near Sandstone. Check them out on pertnearsandstone.com and on all major streaming platforms. Enjoyed the episode? Leave a rating and review wherever you listen, it helps more leaders find the show.

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About the Podcast The Step Up brings together experts who help leaders elevate their impact. Each 45-minute episode features conversations with thought leaders, practitioners, and innovators who are changing how we think about leadership development and helping leaders step up their game. Why This Podcast Exists Throughout my career—from my time at organizations like Korn Ferry, Cargill, General Mills, and Buffalo Wild Wings to my current work as an independent leadership consultant—I've witnessed firsthand how leaders struggle during moments of change and transition and when learning higher-level skills. Work never slows down, and leaders often find themselves trying to grow while in the thick of daily demands. The Step Up is designed to provide practical wisdom and actionable strategies that busy leaders can implement immediately to enhance their effectiveness. What to Expect Each episode follows a two-part format: Part One: Leadership Journeys We explore our guest's background, expertise, and unique perspective on leadership development. You'll hear authentic stories about their experiences supporting leaders and the insights they've gained along the way. Part Two: Actionable Strategies Our guests share three specific, practical tools or approaches that you can apply to your leadership right away. We dig into each one, discussing how to implement it effectively in your unique context. Your Host Kent Kniebel brings over 20 years of experience in leadership development, talent management, and DEI consulting to each conversation. Drawing on his background in corporate HR roles and external consulting work, Kent guides discussions that bridge theory and practice, focusing on what really works in today's leadership landscape. Connect with Kent Have questions about the podcast or want to continue the conversation? Connect with Kent on LinkedIn or visit Kniebel Leadership Advisory to learn more about his work supporting leaders during critical transitions.

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