Ladies we want to prayer for you. Please take time to share your story or just ask for prayer. We would love to be unrelated sister to you! What happens when God asks you to teach something—and then makes you live it first? With the Roots Before Fruit Women's Conference only weeks away, Shannon and Deb sit down for an honest conversation about what God has been revealing in their own hearts while preparing to encourage other women. Shannon shares how working on the conference exposed areas she thought she had already dealt with—including comparison, old reactions, and the temptation to become the "old Shannon" when people push the right buttons. Deb opens up about realizing that unresolved hurt, feeling disrespected, keeping score, and carrying responsibilities that aren't all hers have allowed bitterness to begin taking root. Together, they confront one of the excuses we sometimes use to avoid transformation: "That's just how I am." But when we belong to Jesus, our history doesn't get the final word on who we are. This conversation is raw, transparent, and unfinished—because sometimes testimony isn't something we share after everything has been healed. Sometimes we're able to say, "God is showing me the root right now, and I'm trusting Him while He teaches me how to uproot it." Neither Shannon nor Deb claims to have everything figured out. In fact, that's part of the message: we still need Jesus just as much as the people we're trying to encourage. KEY BIBLE VERSES2 Corinthians 5:17 — "That's Just How I Am" Isn't Your Identity "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!" Your upbringing can explain certain behaviors. Your past can explain certain reactions. Pain can explain certain defenses. But none of them have the authority to define who you must remain. Jesus does. Hebrews 12:15 — Don't Let Bitterness Take Root "See to it... that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many." This Scripture fits Deb's realization especially well. Bitterness rarely begins as bitterness. It can begin with hurt. Disappointment. Feeling unheard. Feeling disrespected. Unforgiveness. Keeping score. Then, if it remains unresolved, the root begins affecting things that weren't originally connected to the wound. That's exactly how you described the conference imagery: the weed begins wrapping itself around healthy things and choking them. Ephesians 4:31–32 — What Replaces Bitterness? "Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger... Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." God doesn't simply expose something to shame us. He reveals what needs uprooting so something healthier can grow in its place. Romans 12:2 — God Can Change How We Respond "Be transformed by the renewing of your mind." Transformation isn't only changing our circumstances. Sometimes God changes our response to our circumstances. Other people's behavior doesn't have to determine our character. Galatians 5:22–23 — What Should Be Growing Instead? "The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." This connects perfectly to Roots Before Fruit. Instead of only asking: "What behavior do I need to stop?" Ask: "What fruit is this root producing?" Psalm 139:23–24 — The Prayer Behind the Episode "Search me, God, and know my heart; test me and know my anxious thoughts. See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." That's essentially what happened while preparing the conference. You started digging into material for other women... and God said: "Before we talk about their roots, let's look at yours." Philippians 1:6 — Healing Isn't Finished "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." Finding another root doesn't mean you've failed. It means God is still working. ENCOURAGEMENTMaybe you've said: "That's just how I am." Maybe you're quick-tempered because that's how your family communicated. Maybe you shut down because that's how you learned to protect yourself. Maybe you keep score because you've spent years feeling overlooked. Maybe bitterness has started growing because you've been hurt repeatedly. Maybe you thought you had already healed from something—and suddenly you're reacting in a way that makes you realize there's still something underneath the surface. Don't let that realization become condemnation. Let it become an invitation. Ask Jesus: "Where is this reaction coming from?" Because sometimes the person who upset you didn't create what's coming out of you. They exposed it. And what gets exposed can finally be brought to Jesus. You don't have to remain who you've always been. Your family history doesn't get the final word. Your trauma doesn't get the final word. Your bitterness doesn't get the final word. Your old reactions don't get the final word. Jesus does. WISDOM FROM THIS EPISODE1. "That's just how I am" can become an excuse not to grow. Jesus loves us exactly where we are, but His love doesn't leave us unchanged. 2. You cannot control someone's behavior, but you can surrender your response to God. As Shannon recognized in the conversation, sometimes the lesson isn't about how somebody else acts—it's about how we react. 3. Bitterness grows when pain is allowed to sit unresolved. Pay attention when you're becoming offended by everything, keeping score, withdrawing, or losing your normal joy. Those reactions may be pointing toward a deeper root. 4. You cannot be everything for everybody. Sometimes something isn't your assignment—even when you love the person who needs help. 5. Comparison can distract you from God's actual assignment. The conference doesn't need to look like another ministry's conference. If God called you to reach a particular group of women, faithfulness matters more than creating something impressive. That's a major realization Shannon describes while discussing the conference. 6. You don't have to be completely healed before God can use your story. Sometimes the testimony is: "I'm still walking through this with Jesus." ENCOURAGEMENT FOR SOMEONE IN THE MIDDLEMaybe today you know something needs uprooting... but you don't know how yet. That's okay. You can say: "I don't know yet." There is hope in yet. You don't have to manufacture healing. You don't have to pretend everything is okay. You don't have to have the ending before you're allowed to talk to Jesus about the middle. Bring Him the bitterness. Bring Him the anger. Bring Him the comparison. Bring Him the old identity. Bring Him the reactions you don't understand. Bring Him the things you thought you'd already healed from. And say: "Jesus, show me the root." Then trust Him enough to let Him dig. PRAYERFather, Thank You for loving us enough to reveal what's underneath the surface. Sometimes we think we've already dealt with something, and then a situation exposes a reaction, hurt, bitterness, insecurity, or old way of thinking that shows us there's still a root that needs Your healing. Lord, don't let us hide behind: "That's just how I am." We don't want our upbringing, our pain, our past, or other people's behavior to determine who we become. We belong to You. Search our hearts. Show us the roots we've ignored. Reveal bitterness before it chokes out our peace. Reveal unforgiveness before it damages our relationships. Reveal comparison before it distracts us from the assignment You've actually given us. And Lord, show us the things we're carrying that were never ours to carry. Teach us that we cannot be everything for everybody. Help us stop keeping score. Help us respond through the love of Jesus instead of reacting through our emotions. Give us grace while we're healing. And give us courage to be honest when the answer is simply: "I don't know yet." Thank You that we don't have to have everything together for You to work through us. Thank You that healing is a journey. Thank You that when You expose a root, You aren't exposing it to condemn us. You're exposing it because You want to heal us. May the fruit of our lives reflect the work You're doing underneath the surface. And may everything we teach, everything we share, every podcast, every conference, and every piece We want this to be truly interactive podcast. Please go in the fan mail at https://unrelatedsisterspodcast.buzzsprout.com and tell us your stories and let us know if it’s okay to share (no names). 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