The HR Tech Scale-Up Show

Howard Flint

Welcome to the HR Tech Scale-up podcast by AMP Strategists, where we discuss how HR Technology Founders can successfully grow and scale their businesses.

Episodes

  1. 12/02/2025

    AI First? What HR Tech Founders Should Really Focus On

    Keywords AI, HR technology, product strategy, user expectations, data strategy, automation, innovation, user interface, regulation, contextual intelligence Summary In this episode of the HR Tech Scale-Up Show, Howard Flint and Olivier Vidal discuss the integration of AI in HR technology. They explore the evolving user expectations, the importance of data strategy, and the challenges faced by legacy systems in adapting to AI. Olivier shares insights on innovative AI platforms and the need for HR tech founders to focus on unique assets and user journeys to leverage AI effectively. The conversation also touches on the regulatory landscape and the importance of building trust in AI solutions. Takeaways AI is not just about language models; it's a broader spectrum.User expectations are evolving rapidly with AI capabilities.You don't have an AI strategy until you have a data strategy.Building unique features requires leveraging unique data assets.AI-first platforms differ fundamentally from traditional software.Trust and regulation are critical in the AI landscape.Innovative platforms are focusing on outcomes rather than just software.User interface design is crucial for engagement in HR tech.Legacy systems need significant re-engineering to integrate AI.Understanding user journeys is essential for effective AI application.Sound Bites "AI is a strategy, there is a set""What unique assets do we have?""User expectations are the sky"Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI in HR Technology 02:46 Understanding AI Beyond Language Models 05:32 User Expectations and AI Integration 08:14 The Push vs. Pull of AI Development 10:33 Examples of AI-First Platforms 13:12 User Interface and Experience in HR Tech 15:29 Re-engineering Legacy Systems for AI 16:32 Architecture Differences in AI Platforms 18:37 Data as a Core Asset in AI Strategy 21:14 Trust, Risk, and Regulation in AI 23:24 Key Takeaways for HR Tech Founders

    27 min

  2. 10/07/2025

    Building Value to Exit: How to Maximise Growth and Prepare for an Exit

    Keywords HR tech, exit readiness, M&A, valuation, customer retention, predictable revenue, growth strategy, market trends, SaaS, business valuation Summary This podcast has been taken from a webinar brought to you by our panel of M&S and growth experts at AMP Strategists, which discusses the essential strategies for HR tech founders to prepare their businesses for exit, focusing on maximising valuation and attracting buyers. Key topics include the current state of the HR tech market, building blocks of value, and actionable levers to enhance business readiness for acquisition. The conversation emphasises the importance of predictable revenues, customer retention, scalable growth, and market defensibility, culminating in practical advice for founders aiming to optimise their exit strategy. Takeaways Getting your business ready for exit is crucial for maximising valuation. The HR tech market has seen significant changes, with a flight to quality among buyers. Predictable and repeatable revenues are essential for attracting buyers. Customer retention is as important as acquiring new customers. Aim for a net revenue retention rate of over 100%. Scalable growth engines are vital for long-term success. Managing customer concentration risk is critical for valuation. Defensibility in market position can drive up acquisition interest. Operational margins and efficiency are key metrics for buyers. Valuation is ultimately determined by what buyers are willing to pay. Sound bites "How do you get your business ready for exit?" "You can't scale a leaky bucket." "Aim for a CAC-LTV ratio of around five to one." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to HR Tech Exit Strategies 03:22 Current State of the HR Tech Market 08:14 Building Blocks of Value in HR Tech 13:17 Leveraging Predictable Revenue for Exit 17:40 Importance of Customer Retention 21:24 Scalable Growth Strategies 26:44 Managing Customer Concentration Risks 29:13 Defending Your Market Position 29:42 Defining Your Moat: The Key to Market Positioning 35:31 Understanding Margins and Operational Efficiency 43:55 Summarising the Seven Levers for Exit Readiness 46:38 The Role of Non-Financial Factors in Valuation 48:42 Navigating Pricing Models and Revenue Strategies 51:10 Valuation Shifts: From Growth to Profitability 53:20 Calculating and Increasing Valuation for Exit Send your HR Tech M&A questions from the webinar to: howard.flint@ampstrategists.com To find out more about how AMP Strategists can help value your business and help you prepare for an exit, visit: https://www.ampstrategists.com

    53 min

  3. 09/03/2025

    From Demo to Deal: Mastering HR Tech Sales

    Keywords HR Tech, Sales Demos, Sales Process, Demo Structure, Closing Techniques, Sales Performance, Technology Solutions, Client Engagement, Discovery Calls, Sales Strategy Summary In this episode of the HR Tech Scale Up Show, Howard Flint, Greg Johnson and Dawn Hutchinson from AMP Strategists discuss the critical role of sales demos in the HR tech industry. They explore how to effectively integrate demos into the sales process, emphasising the importance of discovery calls and understanding client pain points. The conversation also covers structuring demos to focus on outcomes rather than features, the significance of closing techniques, and strategies for improving demo performance over time. Takeaways Sales demos are integral to the sales process, not standalone events.Discovery calls are essential for understanding client needs before demos.Demos should focus on solving specific client pain points.Engaging clients during demos leads to better outcomes.Leave time at the end of demos for discussing next steps.Recording demos can aid in coaching and marketing efforts.Salespeople should prioritise demonstrating value over features.Demos should be conversational and interactive.Best practices from successful demos should be shared across teams.Continuous improvement in demo techniques is crucial for success.Sound Bites "Engage the client throughout the demo.""Plan your objectives before the demo.""Leave time for next steps at the end."Chapters 00:00 The Importance of Sales Demos in HR Tech 02:59 Integrating Demos into the Sales Process 06:27 Structuring an Effective Demo 16:26 Closing Strategies Post-Demo 18:25 Continuous Improvement of Demo Performance

    21 min

  4. 08/12/2025

    Smart Outreach: Selling HR Tech with Precision

    keywords HR Tech, SaaS Growth, Outbound Sales, Sales Strategy, Ideal Customer Profile, Sales Process, Content Marketing, Pipeline Management, Sales Growth, Lead Generation, Sales Techniques Summary In this episode of the HR Tech Scale-Up Show hosted by AMP Strategists, Howard Flint, Dawn Hutchinson, and Greg Johnson discuss the critical role of outbound sales in the growth of HR technology businesses. They explore the importance of defining target audiences, optimizing sales processes, and the impact of quality content in engaging potential clients. The conversation emphasizes the need for a multichannel approach to outreach and effective pipeline management to ensure sales success. Takeaways Outbound sales are essential for HR tech growth.Identifying the ideal customer profile (ICP) is crucial.Sales messaging must be tailored to different personas.Quality content enhances engagement with prospects.A multichannel approach increases outreach effectiveness.Pipeline management helps focus on real opportunities.Sales processes require consistency and direction.Understanding audience challenges is key to effective messaging.Sales teams must adapt to changing market dynamics.Regular review of sales processes can improve outcomes.Sound Bites "How to increase outbound sales?""Sales processes need consistency.""Quality content drives engagement."Chapters 00:00 The Importance of Outbound Sales 07:22 Identifying Target Audiences 11:58 Optimizing Sales Processes 14:54 The Role of Content in Sales 19:41 Effective Pipeline Management

    23 min

  5. 07/24/2025

    Acquiring for Advantage: How to Buy the Right HR Tech Company

    Keywords HR technology, acquisition, M&A, investment, private equity, strategic buying, valuation, deal structure, market trends, growth strategy Summary This podcast has been recorded from a live recorded webinar broadcast by AMP Strategists featuring Howard Flint (CEO) and Dan Martin (M&A Adviser) from AMP, William Cooke (Investor) from Cow Corner, and Paul Daley (CCO) from Org Group.  This show discusses the intricacies of acquiring HR technology companies, focusing on the motivations behind acquisitions, the evaluation of potential targets, and the importance of due diligence. Panelists share insights on the current market landscape, deal structures, and valuation trends, while also addressing the challenges and opportunities presented by emerging technologies like AI. Founders are advised on how to prepare their businesses for acquisition and the significance of building relationships with potential buyers. Takeaways Acquisitions are driven by financial opportunities, market needs, and competitive pressures.Understanding the management team is crucial for evaluating potential acquisitions.HR technology is a rapidly evolving field, making it attractive for acquisitions.Due diligence is essential to assess product viability and market fit.Cultural fit between acquiring and target companies is critical for successful integration.Founders should prepare their businesses for acquisition by ensuring robust financial controls.Building relationships with potential sellers can facilitate smoother transactions.Deal structures can vary significantly based on risk appetite and growth potential.Valuations in HR tech are influenced by operational leverage and market demand.The impact of AI on HR tech business models is still unfolding. Sound Bites "HR technology is rapidly evolving.""Prepare your business for acquisition.""The impact of AI on HR tech is unfolding." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to HR Technology Acquisitions 04:59 Understanding the Drivers Behind Acquisitions 10:23 Identifying Attractive Targets in HR Tech 15:48 Evaluating Potential Red Flags in Acquisitions 17:55 Preparing for Acquisition: Insights for Founders 19:36 Approaching Potential Sellers: Best Practices 23:13 The Importance of Relationship Building in Acquisitions 24:55 Deal Structure: Key Components Explained 25:24 Understanding Deal Structures and Earnouts 26:55 Key Factors in Structuring Acquisitions 30:29 Valuation Trends in HR Technology 33:54 Market Dynamics and Buyer Sentiment 37:38 The Role of AI in SaaS Business Models 39:10 Acquisition Strategies for Small Companies 41:13 Common Pitfalls in Acquisitions 44:09 Interest in Tech-Service Models

    48 min

  6. 06/16/2025

    Escaping the Plateau: How HR Tech Founders Tackle Revenue Stagnation

    Summary In this episode, Howard Flint, Dan Martin, and Kate Heath discuss the challenges faced by HR tech founders when dealing with revenue stagnation. They explore the underlying causes of stagnation, including internal processes and external market conditions, and emphasize the importance of understanding these factors. The conversation highlights the struggles small teams face during revenue decline, such as morale issues and organizational alignment. The speakers provide actionable strategies to overcome stagnation, including market evaluation, internal process improvements, and leveraging partnerships for growth. They stress the need for continuous innovation and the importance of understanding customer needs to drive business success. Takeaways Revenue stagnation can be caused by various internal and external factors.Understanding the root causes of stagnation is crucial for business owners.Internal processes, sales strategies, and product innovation impact revenue.Team morale can decline during periods of stagnation, affecting performance.Aligning sales, marketing, and product teams is essential for success.Continuous innovation is necessary to adapt to changing market needs.Evaluating existing customer accounts can reveal growth opportunities.Partnerships can diversify revenue streams and enhance client relationships.Increasing prices regularly can help maintain revenue levels.Challenging past strategies and data can uncover new growth paths. Sound Bites “Don’t stop innovation, keep it going!”“Increasing prices can be an easy win.”“Evaluate your buyer’s journey and needs.”“Challenge your past strategies and data.” Chapters 00:00 Understanding Revenue Stagnation 04:13 Internal Struggles in Small Teams 10:18 The Impact of Stagnation on Business 15:33 Strategies to Overcome Revenue Stagnation 20:23 Leveraging Partnerships for Growth Keywords HR technology, revenue stagnation, business growth, sales strategies, partnerships, market evaluation, internal processes, customer needs, product innovation, team alignment

    21 min

  7. 04/22/2025

    Navigating New Markets: Strategies for HR Tech Success

    Summary In this podcast episode, Howard Flint, Dawn Hutchinson, and Kate Heath discuss the essential strategies for HR technology founders looking to expand their businesses into new markets. They emphasise the importance of thorough research and analysis before entering a new market, the need to test the market before making significant investments, and the value of tailoring strategies to fit the unique characteristics of each market. The conversation also highlights the potential of partnerships as a means of market entry and the necessity of monitoring performance to ensure successful scaling. Key takeaways include the importance of understanding the current market, having a solid go-to-market plan, and being adaptable while maintaining focus on the expansion strategy. Takeaways Research is crucial before entering new markets.Understand your Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) thoroughly.It's often easier to grow within your existing market.Testing the market is essential before heavy investment.Tailor your strategy to fit the new market's nuances.Positioning strategies are key to market success.Utilise existing resources before hiring new staff.Partnerships can provide an easier route to market entry.Monitoring performance is vital for scaling efforts.Have a solid plan and remain focused on execution.Sound Bites "It's about research, research, research.""Positioning strategies is key.""Have a plan and stick with the plan."Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Market Expansion 01:32 Research and Analysis for New Markets 06:10 Testing the Market Before Full Entry 11:19 Strategies for Market Entry 16:05 Utilizing Partnerships for Expansion 21:05 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways

    17 min
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Welcome to the HR Tech Scale-up podcast by AMP Strategists, where we discuss how HR Technology Founders can successfully grow and scale their businesses.

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