Get Behind Me Jesus

Joe Cash

This is a progressive spiritual podcast aimed at deconstructing Christians and spiritual-not-religious folks exploring the more authentic person and teaching of Jesus and various spiritual traditions that challenge Western/White centered ideologies. The show is designed to move beyond surface-level "hot takes" to explore the messy, beautiful process of deconstructing and rebuilding faith and community. getbehindmejesus.substack.com

  1. Sep 19

    Neuro Relational Integration and Moral Imagination with Dr. Shaleen Kendrick

    Music "Dirty Gertie" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Summary Joey talks with Dr. Shaleen Kendrick, an open and relational neurotheologian, about how nervous system regulation, spiritual practice, and theology shape each other in real time. The conversation centers on deconstruction, embodied faith, and why fear-based religion can train the brain toward threat instead of compassion.They also explore how curiosity, contemplation, imagination, and liberation-centered interpretation can help people move toward coherence, wholeness, and a more life-giving spirituality. Key topics Neurospirituality- The neuroscience of spiritual and religious experience, with theology asking how those experiences shape us and how we shape theology in return.Neuroplasticity- Repeated thoughts, rituals, and experiences reshape the brain over time.Prediction error- The gap between what people expect religious communities to be and what they actually experience.Coherence- A dynamic, ongoing state of wholeness and integration.Ventral vagal pathway- A physiological route associated with safety, curiosity, compassion, and connection.Moral imagination- The capacity to re-envision reality in more liberating, inclusive, and life-giving ways.Connect ·       Website ·       Substack ·       LinkedIn ·       Facebook ·       Neuro Relational Integration References & Mentions ·       Lisa Miller— The Awakened Brain and The Spiritual Child ·       Andrew Newberg— work on neuroscience, spirituality, and religious experience ·       Deb Dana— Anchored and other work on polyvagal theory ·       Stephen Porges— polyvagal theory ·       Resmaa Menakem— My Grandmother’s Hands ·       Paulo Freire— Pedagogy of the Oppressed ·       Howard Thurman— Jesus and the Disinherited ·       John Sanders— Theology in the Flesh and Embracing Prodigals ·       Kelly Brown Douglas— work on moral imagination and liberation theology ·       Lisa Sharon Harper— work on faith, justice, and imagination ·       Elizabeth Schrader Polczer, Diana Butler Bass, and Jaime Clark-Soles— resources on Mary Magdalene, the Samaritan woman, and feminist biblical interpretation ·       Grace Ji-Sun Kim— work on race, theology, and images of Jesus ·       Tom Oord, Tripp Fuller, and Rob Bell— influences referenced in the opening conversation

  2. Aug 22

    The Endurant Way Forward with Neal Tricario

    Music: "Dirty Gertie" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Summary In this episode, Neal Tricarico shares his profound journey through grief, mental health challenges, and the power of community and spirituality in transforming pain into purpose. Discover insights on supporting neurodiverse youth, the importance of awareness, and building authentic connections. Resources & Links: Martin Short Interview on CBS Sunday MorningMartin Short on Mental HealthCenter for Open and Relational TheologyThe Endurant MovementThe Endurant Way – Resources for AdultsLA Times InterviewUSA TODAY ArticleDr Mayank Gupta in Adolescent Psychiatry JournalRichard Tedeschi – Post Traumatic GrowthConnect with Neal Tricarico: Website: nealtricarico.comInstagramFacebookYouTubeAdditional Notes: Help is available – call o r text 988 of go to 988lifeline.orgSAMHSAThe Tricaricos experienced barriers to assistance from professionals who thought “because Anthony didn’t have a plan he wasn’t in immediate risk.” “Suicide is a leading cause of death in the U.S. for kids aged 10 to 18. Prevention strategies that take neurodiversity [and other intersectionality] into account could go a long way toward reducing the number of young lives lost too soon.”Mental health is not a disease, but mental illness or issues are “like a disease that sometimes ends terminally.” I think that’s important to distinguish because Mental Health has a stigma, but it is something to which we need to pay very close attention, especially in our world today.

  3. Aug 3

    Father, Son, and Holy Therapist: Exploring Internal Family Systems and More with Joshua Pritikin PhD

    Music: "Dirty Gertie" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Summary: In this episode, we delve into the intersections of internal family systems therapy, trinitarian theology, and identity. We explore the main premise of Dr. Pritikin’s book Religion Unburdened by Belief, that religious practices can function scientifically – engaging what we know without beliefs that rely on degrees of certainty unsupported by evidence. We Also talk about a different approach to psychedelics as sacrament and how the experience of ego dissolution and connection to “consensus reality” are both necessary and helpful parts of practicing presence with the aid of plant medicine. Main Topics: ·       The distinction between beliefs and process beliefs, and how belief conviction can be minimized without losing meaning The concept of unblending vs blending in internal family systems and its relevance to meditation and emotional regulationHow religious frameworks can be reinterpreted as relational systems, similar to the internal parts theory in IFSThe role of curiosity and openness in engaging with spiritual experiences, including the importance of holding beliefs looselyThe practice of "integrative meditation" and its application for neurodivergent individuals and those with mental health challengesThe purpose and different approaches to psychedelics, emphasizing intentionality, effortfulness, and relationalityAn exploration of how psychedelics like ayahuasca open pathways to ego dissolution and interconnectednessThe cultural and practical considerations when working with natural versus manufactured psychedelics in therapeutic settingsThe theological reflection on the concept of God as relational and panentheistic, and its internal system analogiesThe ongoing process of deconstruction, reconstruction, and embracing uncertainty to foster personal growth and spiritual healthResources & Links: ·       Religion Unburdened by Belief ·       Information about the Santo Daime o   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Daime o   https://chacruna.net/music-and-santo-daime/ o   https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24477460/ Connect with Dr. Joshua Pritikin: ·       https://ifs-institute.com/practitioners/all/110287 ·       https://estrelacounseling.com/docs/staff/joshua/ ·       https://psychedelic.support/network/joshua-pritikin-phd/

  4. Jul 8

    The Adventures of Paul Burgmayer Across Spiritual Direction

    Music: "Dirty Gertie" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Exploring Spiritual Deconstruction and Direction with Paul Burgmayer Attention, Blue Blaze Irregulars! Team leader Joe Cash is joined by Spiritual Director Paul Burgmayer for a critical mission into the nuances of spiritual direction. From its historical evolution in the 1970s to the present day, they’re decoding how personal experience rewires our spiritual journeys. Whether you’re breaching the barrier of traditional practices, currently questioning your coordinates or searching for a deeper more embodied faith: remember, "no matter where you go, there your spirit is." Lock your oscillation overthrusters and prepare for profound insights! Key Topics Covered: Paul's journey from chemist and high school teacher to spiritual director.Deconstructing traditional views of Jesus and embracing alternative theologies like process and open relational theology.The visceral experience of faith, including imagery such as choking on Jesus Christ's name.The history and development of spiritual direction from the 20th century to today.The role of Ignatian spiritual exercises, especially imaginative prayer, in cultivating a personal relationship with Jesus.Practical skills for spiritual directors, including energy awareness and maintaining healthy boundaries.The intersection of psychology and spiritual direction, emphasizing relationship and intuition.Navigating faith traditions, including Catholic, evangelical, and non-religious spiritual seekers.The significance of embodied spiritual practices and the limitations of institutionalized church experiences.Practical advice for those interested in becoming spiritual directors, including prerequisites and program options.The importance of community, trauma healing, and integrating neurobiology insights into spirituality.Resources & Links: The Making of Modern Spiritual DirectionHistory of Spiritual DirectionCenter for Open and Relational TheologyTom Oord - Systematic Theology of LoveJesuit Volunteer CorpsConnect with Paul Burgmayer: Email: historyofsd@gmail.comWebsite: historyofsd.comAdditional Notes: Emphasizes process-oriented and embodied spiritual practicesEncourages curiosity and intuition in spiritual explorationHighlights the non-static, diverse landscape of spiritual direction practicesProvides practical guidance for those seeking to train or find a spiritual director

  5. Jul 2

    First in Light: Navigating Energy Healing with the Wright Sisters

    Music: "Dirty Gertie" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Embracing Spirit, Healing, and Sacred Connection: An Exploration with Martha and KristyDiscover the intersection of spirituality, energy healing, and authentic connection as Martha Wright and Kristy share their journeys through deconstruction, reconnection, and embodiment of divine principles. This episode delves into how diverse spiritual roots inform modern healing practices and the Divine Masculine and Feminine energies in our journeys. Key Topics: Personal stories of spiritual awakening from shamanism, Celtic roots, and ChristianityThe role of indigenous wisdom and universal practices in modern spiritualityHow deconstruction leads to deeper embodied knowing and trust in SpiritThe importance of embodiment, presence, and radical acceptance in healingExploring the divine masculine and feminine within Jesus and spiritual practiceThe bridge between ancient wisdom and contemporary energy workPractical insights on in-person versus virtual healing sessionsHow faith and personal sovereignty intersect in spiritual journeysThe significance of non-judgment, consent, and building trust in healing relationshipsThe role of trauma, shadow work, and soul retrieval in reclaiming wholeness Resources & Links: Martha Medicine WomanMarthaMW.comImpact Wellness SolutionsShaleen Kendrick's Neurobiological InsightsChristina Pratt's "Why Shamanism Now"Connect with Martha and Kristy: Martha Medicine Woman - Instagram | WebsiteKristy Wright - Impact WellnessNotes: For those deconstructing from religious frameworks, this episode offers insights into integrating energy work, indigenous wisdom, and Christian principles beyond dogma to foster embodied spiritual wholeness.

  6. Jun 19

    This 3D Life with D. Dean Graves

    Music: "Earn It" licensed through Soundstripe - B9PELGJLUPUOO2ST "Dirty Gertie" by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Title: Exploring Consciousness, Spiritual Evolution, and Interdimensional Beings Discover an insightful conversation with spiritual teacher and author Dee Dean Graves as he guides us through the cosmos of consciousness, the nature of reality, and the path of spiritual evolution. This episode unpacks complex metaphysical concepts, from densities and archetypes to extraterrestrial influences, all framed within the journey toward authentic self-awareness. In this episode: Dean shares his journey from a typical life to awakening, exploring the metaphysical nature of the self.The layered concepts of densities, archetypes, and the law of one are explained with practical examples.The role of stress, suffering, and authentic love in spiritual growth is discussed.The influence of extraterrestrial civilizations, including the Pleiadians and Arcturians, on Earth’s evolution is explored.The importance of deconstructing ego, beliefs, and societal perceptions to attain higher consciousness.Insights into near-death experiences, chakras, and the transition beyond the physical realm.Considerations on the future of human consciousness, community, and collective evolution.Practical guidance on meditation, healing, and embracing the spiritual journey.Resources & Links: D. Dean Graves WebsiteChatting with the Arcturians PodcastBook: Enlightenment, Plain and SimpleBook: The Enigma of ConsciousnessBook: Identity ModelConnect with Dee Dean Graves: YouTubeFacebook

  7. Jun 18

    The Foundation Ferrara Abundance with Steve Ferrara

    "Acknowledging the good that you already have in your life is the foundation for all abundance." - Eckhart Tolle Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Discover how deep spiritual insights and personal experience can transform grief into gratitude and inner peace. In this episode, Steve Ferrara shares his inspiring journey through the loss of his son, the power of universal principles, and practical ways to cultivate resilience and spiritual awakening in times of sorrow. Key topics: Steve Ferrara’s personal journey from grief to gratitude after losing his 23-year-old sonThe distinction between religion, spirituality, and universal lawsPractical steps for embracing grief as a transformational processThe role of journaling, silence, and sacred space in healingHow universal laws and concepts like compassion, forgiveness, and radical acceptance support growthExploring the concept of death as an ongoing journey, not a final endingThe importance of inner work, mindfulness, and disconnecting from overstimulationThe scientific and spiritual understanding of consciousness evolutionThe significance of gratitude as a healing toolBuilding community and surrounding oneself with supportive, conscious individualsResources & Links: From Grief to Gratitude: Embracing the Inner Pathway to Healing and Peace - Book by Steve FerraraThe Power of Now by Eckhart TolleThe Course in MiraclesMichael Singer – The Untethered SoulDavid Hawkins – Power vs. ForceStephen Pinker – The Better Angels Among UsConnect with Steve Ferrara: Website

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This is a progressive spiritual podcast aimed at deconstructing Christians and spiritual-not-religious folks exploring the more authentic person and teaching of Jesus and various spiritual traditions that challenge Western/White centered ideologies. The show is designed to move beyond surface-level "hot takes" to explore the messy, beautiful process of deconstructing and rebuilding faith and community. getbehindmejesus.substack.com