The Nuance Hour

Trevor Adams & Emily Fisk

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The Nuance Hour is a podcast all about getting out of our filter bubbles, questioning long-held beliefs, and moving beyond labels to have cathartic conversations. We discuss politics, religion, current events, and culture. We attempt to embrace the shades of gray, question our assumptions, and think critically.

FEB 7

The One Where They Talk Religion

In this episode, we finally dive deep into religion—the topic we've been promising since day one. We're thrilled to be joined by Reverend Benjamin Cremer, who brings serious theological credentials and two decades of pastoral experience. More importantly, Ben brings the kind of honest, historically-grounded perspective on American Christianity that cuts through the Christian nationalist white noise (pun intended). We each share our spiritual journeys and unpack the movements that shaped our parents (and us), explore why American Christianity's extremists have become its loudest representatives, and ask the big question: does American Christianity exist outside of its dirty deal with power? We also tackle where Gen Z fits into all this, why men are flocking back to rigid religion, what the "church of piety" looks like, and whether there's hope in Christianity's historical pattern of resistance movements. Spoiler: monasteries were the original protest against empire, and every reformation comes with reformers who get crucified for it. Segments & Timestamps: 00:00 - Introducing Reverend Ben Cremer 00:25 - Episode Preview 01:40 - Meet Ben Cremer 04:05 - Historical Context 08:33 - Ben's Early Years 12:18 - Escaping Extremism 16:25 - Seminary & Grace 17:50 - Compensation Crisis 20:16 - Losing Credentials 25:25 - Online Ministry 31:12 - Church as Club 35:06 - Trevor's Background 38:03 - End Times 39:56 - Reformed Phase 42:02 - Philosophy & Faith 44:06 - Episcopal Discovery 47:14 - Emily's Journey 50:14 - Homeschool Movement 54:56 - Cult Years 58:08 - Church & Trauma 1:00:31 - American Christianity 1:05:05 - Gen Z 1:09:53 - Hope 1:13:27 - Church of Piety 1:18:12 - Wrap Up 1:20:27 - Outro Mentioned: Chad Kim's podcast: History of Christian Theology Ben Cremer's newsletter: Into the Gray Ben Cremer on social media: @brcremer Ben Cremer's Substack Connect With Us: Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠ Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠@thenuancehour⁠ Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com

1h 21m
JAN 24

2026 Bingo (Predictions)

In this episode, we kick off 2026 by throwing caution to the wind and making bold predictions across 13 topics—from politics and culture to tech, religion, and even rollerblading. After acknowledging the grim moment we’re living through, we dive into what the coming year might hold: midterm forecasts, the future of Trump’s influence, who could emerge in the 2028 presidential race, and what might happen with religion in the U.S. We also predict cultural trends like the potential resurgence of rollerblading (yes, really), the “analog year” vibe creeping into consumer culture, social media fatigue, and a possible AI backlash. Whether it’s geopolitics, Taylor Swift, or the coalitions shaping the parties, this episode is all about being right or wrong together and starting the year with curiosity and nuance. Plus we’re turning it into a Bingo game, and everybody (Emily) loves a chance to compete. Segments & Timestamps: 0:00 Intro + Remembering Rene 1:42 Prediction Season Rules 4:58 2026 Midterms 9:37 Trump, Power, and the Courts 15:12 Midterms & Movement Signals 21:04 2028? 26:41 Religion in 2026 31:55 Culture as Forecast (Yes, Rollerblades) 37:18 AI Backlash & the “Analog Year” 43:06 Social Media Fatigue 48:22 American Imperialism 1:00:36 Good Take: Dan Carlin — “First Day, First Term” Mentioned: Dan Carlin: Common Sense Ep 325 Connect With Us: Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠ Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠@thenuancehour⁠ Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com

1h 13m
12/19/2025

My First Dictatorship

In this episode, we take on the grim (and increasingly undeniable) question of America’s slide toward authoritarianism, and why naming it plainly isn’t partisan. We talk about how the two-party duopoly keeps forcing every concern into a Coke v. Pepsi “they’re all the same” dead end, making it easier to normalize power grabs with “yeah, but the other side…” logic. Trevor makes the case that structural issues like campaign finance, Citizens United, gerrymandering, and winner-take-all electoral rules have weakened representation and primed the system for strongman politics, while Emily argues for a broader “No Kings” style coalition that can welcome people who don’t neatly fit into either party identity. From there, we map the current authoritarian terrain: due process erosion, weaponized institutions, loyalty-driven governance, creeping normalization of extrajudicial force, and civil society collapsing faster than we expected. We also push back hard on the false binary of “apathy or revolution,” making the case for sustainable resistance rooted in community, joy, and practical action. We end with corners—some good news on state-level experimentation to reduce money’s influence in politics, and a bad-take detour into the internet’s latest brain-melt: “Is Taylor Swift a Nazi?” Segments & Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:23 Authoritarianism, Again 3:57 “We Were Early” 8:21 White House Discourse 11:56 Duopoly Brain 23:26 “No Kings” Coalitions 26:24 “At Least It’s Not…” 33:32 Oligarchy 101 36:46 Citizens United, Revisited 46:15 Gerrymandering + Electoral College 54:30 Joyful Resistance 1:01:54 Authoritarian Map Check 1:07:00 The List (Proof Points) 1:16:01 Due Process + Human Rights 1:23:26 Good News: Montana Plan 1:27:29 Good Take: Harris vs. Shapiro 1:28:56 Bad Take: T. Swift Isn’t a Nazi Mentioned: ⁠Sam Harris (Making Sense): Sam Harris vs. Ben Shapiro on Trump, authoritarianism, and the peaceful transfer of power The New York Times Editorial Board: Are We Losing Our Democracy? The Montana Plan: Montana’s state-level effort to limit corporate political spending after Citizens United Connect With Us: Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠ Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠@thenuancehour⁠ Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com

1h 35m
11/17/2025

Squids on Mars! Attention Farming and the New Politics of Conspiracy

In this episode, we dive into why conspiracy theories feel so irresistible and ubiquitous right now, and why they’re also so corrosive. We talk about motivated reasoning, media bias, and our crumbling trust in experts, from JFK and 9/11 truthers to lab-leak debates, QAnon, RFK Jr., and the evergreen “do your own research” refrain. We also unpack how the attention economy and social media reward rage-bait and fringe content, why weather modification and “chemtrails” became right-wing go-tos after the Texas floods, and how politicians from Trump to Marjorie Taylor Greene exploit conspiratorial thinking for power. Along the way, we make the case for real media literacy, intellectual humility, and learning to live with complex, less cinematic truths. Segments & Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:38 Why Conspiracy Theories Stick 11:54 Motivated Reasoning, Expertise & Bias 23:40 The Attention Economy & “Do Your Own Research” Culture 38:41 Weather Modification, Chemtrails & Political Weaponization 57:03 Epstein, Elon vs. Trump & the New Politics of Conspiracy 1:15:56 Counter Argument Corner: Is Musk Sitting on Nuclear Info? 1:21:35 Outro Mentioned: Abbie Richards for Media Matters: Why TikTok is becoming a playground for absurd AI-generated conspiracy theories David Gardner on The Daily Beast: How Musk Brought Epstein Back to Life to Win His Bitter War With Trump Planet Money: Why I Joined DOGE Connect With Us: Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠ Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠@thenuancehour⁠ Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com

1h 23m
09/20/2025

Kitchen Sink: Bad Things, Better Angels

In our first Kitchen Sink roundup, we start with the week’s heaviest news: the assassination of Charlie Kirk. We talk frankly about political violence, free speech, and why “bad things are bad” should be a baseline instead of a partisan Rorschach test. From there, we hit a scatter of stories we’ve been tracking: the stalled push to release more Epstein files (and why Thomas Massie is a Libertarian badass), a quick update on Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s case, West Ada’s “Everyone Is Welcome” poster fallout, and that bizarre “Did Trump die?” rumor cycle. We also reflect on the civic muscles we still need to flex, from Lincoln’s “better angels” to the everyday discipline of touching grass. #Politics #FreeSpeech Segments & Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:24 Political Violence & Charlie Kirk 47:53 Epstein Files & Trump 57:24 Kilmar Abrego Garcia: Targeted as an Example? 1:08:40 West Ada Poster: Teacher Joins Boise School District 1:11:09 “Did Trump Die?” Let’s Touch Grass 1:17:41 Outro Mentioned: Business Insider: This Chart Proves There Is Something Profoundly Wrong With How The US Handles Guns World Population Review: Gun Ownership by Country 2025 Idaho Ed News: ‘Everyone is welcome here’ teacher takes Boise School District job Connect With Us: Produced and Engineered by ⁠Ken Wilson⁠ | Original Music by ⁠Robert Lanterman⁠ Website: ⁠thenuancehour.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠@thenuancehour⁠ Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com

1h 18m
08/29/2025

Is Trump Replaceable? Inside the Fractured MAGA Grievance Worldview

In this episode, we try to untangle the ideological realignment of the Republican Party in the era of Trumpism. From Reagan’s conservatism to the rise of grievance politics, we unpack seven conservative principles—and ask if Trump ever pretended to adhere to them—delve into the Epstein files as a defining cultural myth for the MAGA movement, and question whether the MAGA coalition can survive without its orange avatar. Tune in for a candid, nuanced conversation on identity, power, and the emergence of cultural movements. Segments & Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro & Mission of The Nuance Hour 02:00 – Defining the MAGA/Trump Coalition 06:30 – Conservatism Then vs. Now 10:00 – Grading Trump Against Mike’s Seven Core Principles 18:00 – Tariffs & Economic Contradictions 22:00 – Liberty, Government, and Rhetorical Limits 26:00 – Social Values & Trump’s Conservative Identity 30:00 – Who Is Trump? A Grievance Framework 35:00 – The Epstein File & Conspiracy Psychology 42:00 – Self-Deception Within the Coalition 45:00 – Future of MAGA After Trump 50:00 – Final Thoughts & Hopes for Conservative Renewal Mentioned: Mike Johnson’s seven core conservative principles Connect With Us: Produced and Engineered by Ken Wilson | Original Music by Robert Lanterman Website: thenuancehour.com Instagram: @thenuancehour Email: thenuancehour@gmail.com

1h 10m
07/25/2025

Does Size Matter? Lessons From Civil Resistance Research

In this episode, we dive into research on violent and non-violent civil resistance movements of the past. What lessons can we learn from successful resistance movements? Is there a critical threshold of civic involvement in the face of oppressive regimes? We also report from our experience at the Boise No Kings protest in June. Are the 50501 protests different than the Women’s March and other resistance protests of Trump’s first term? Emily does a 108 on the value of protests. Mentioned in this episode: Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict by Maria J. Stephan and Erica Chenoweth Questions, Answers, and Some Cautionary Updates Regarding the 3.5% Rule by Erica Chenoweth

1h 2m
07/10/2025

Immigration and MAGA's Uneasy Alliances

In today’s episode, we’re tackling the Elon/Trump breakup, the rifts it reveals in the uneasy alliance between tech oligarchs and the populist far right, and immigration. It all connects, we promise. We talk through our personal opinions on immigration, including some philosophical underpinnings to our beliefs, and confront some immigration myths. We wrap up the episode with a good take—could it be the moment for a third party?—and a mailbag segment. Mentioned in this episode: The Right to Immigrate by Michael Huemer Jasmine Bina on LinkedIn

1h 34m

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Episode 0: What is Nuance?

In our very first episode, co-hosts Emily Fisk and Trevor Adams introduce The Nuance Hour—a podcast about embracing the gray areas and digging into the layered, messy, interesting stuff that doesn’t fit neatly into headlines. We’re talking about the topics that deserve more than a hot take. In this intro, we chat about why we started the show, what “nuance” means to us, and what you can expect in future episodes. If you’re tired of black-and-white thinking and looking for deeper, more thoughtful conversations, you’re in the right place.

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The Nuance Hour is a podcast all about getting out of our filter bubbles, questioning long-held beliefs, and moving beyond labels to have cathartic conversations. We discuss politics, religion, current events, and culture. We attempt to embrace the shades of gray, question our assumptions, and think critically.

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Trevor Adams & Emily Fisk
Years Active

2025 - 2026
Episodes

13
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