Vanilla Club Podcast

Jason S.C. Fung

At Vanilla Club, our idea of 'Simple Wellness' is both timely and timeless. We pride ourselves on a "back to basics" approach to life, love, and wellbeing.Vanilla Club Podcast delves into how everyday people - often those closest to trauma - find ways to heal and improve their mental and physical wellbeing amid stress, complexity, and even desperation.Unlike mainstream wellness narratives that focus on optimising the lives of high achievers, we aim to share stories of resilience and resourcefulness from the "quiet achiever".

  1. 20h ago

    26. Sam Eng: On Indie Games and Skating Through Hell

    What does it take to build a work of art by yourself, on a macbook, in a Brooklyn rare oatmilks only coffee shop, with zero team, no water cooler, no corporate handbook, and no guarantee whatsoever it'll work? That's the question at the heart of this conversation with Sam Eng, the rad indie game developer behind Skate Story - one of the most visually and emotionally striking games to come out in recent years. With an 85 on Metacritic and a perfect ten on Steam, Skate Story puts you in the shoes of a glass demon skating down into the underworld. It's part Dante's Inferno, part vapourwave fever dream, part meditation on fear and fragility. And I love it. Needed some sharp elbows to make sure I can get Skate Story gametime over Mario Kart or Animal Crossing on the Switch 2! In this episode, Sam walks us through the building blocks of solo indie game development: how everything from 3D modelling and animation to code, sound design, and world-building comes together inside the Unreal engine on a 16-inch MacBook Pro. He talks about how he cold-emailed the band Blood Cultures via Bandcamp, met them at a coffee shop on the Lower East Side, and built one of gaming's most hyper-simpatico audiovisual collaborations. We also get into the culture underneath the game. Sam is a skater, traversing Manhattan as his primary mode of transport. He unpacks the no-pads ethos of street skating, the elemental simplicity of a skateboard as material culture, and how the metaphor of a glass demon who must skate despite being made of breakable material connects directly to the vulnerability of stepping onto a board. The conversation opens up into a debate about gaming as a medium. Is it taken seriously enough? What separates meaningful play from fast food gaming? And what can it teach kids about agency? We hope you enjoy.

    1h 17m
  2. May 26

    25. Expat Prep Returns: Why Americans Are Looking at Uruguay

    Expat Prep on Substack In this episode, we are joined by our first repeat guest (we dig him that much) on Vanilla Club Podcast, Expat Prep, where we explore what it means to reorient your life when bedrock assumptions fail. Expat Prep is an anonymous Substack writer from unnamed Midwestern City (I think he stole this from the Simpsons by the way), who writes with a wide-ranging knowledge of financial and tax matters (disclaimers of course apply!), wry humour full of pop-cultural references, and an abiding, if subtle, patriotism. He is one of our favourite follows. With Uruguay as the case study, buckle-up gauchos, as we venture between Montevideo and Punta del Este, where scale changes everything. Hat tip: Susan Sontag, as we get environmentally deterministic in this joint. Expat Prep dodges bullets at night (yes really!), surf bums, tax advisors, and overzealous tenedor libres by day. What is driving people, expats specifically: is it safety and opportunity? Or is it something more subtle, like the ability to simply feel at ease? Adventurism? Uruguay is hot right now, low-key becoming a top flight option for prospective-expats American and otherwise. One of the central themes is that planning, even in uncertain times, is not purely defensive. It can be hopeful, value creating in finance-speak. Building optionality is one of Expat Prep's underpinning, most resonating themes. And whether it is in blunt pragmatics or in the abstract we have a brilliant guide here indeed. Let's go! We hope you enjoy.

    2h 3m
  3. Mar 11

    22. Allan Wexler: A New Futurist Invites Us to His Table in a Farm

    Allan Wexler Michael Yarinsky @ Tangible Space In this episode of Vanilla Club Podcast, we are joined by visionary artist and teacher, Allan Wexler, to explore the groundbreaking Farm is Table project. With all the distress in the world at the moment, we couldn't think of a more welcome time to go "back to the country." In this case, with a small dose of wryness (we love it!) Allan takes us "into" the country, or, the farm, so to speak, quite literally. Allan, whose corpus of work spans architecture, fine art, and visceral, experimental culinary experiences, takes us mise-en-scène of a dining concept that's rather "earthy," shall we say. This is a loaded word "earthy;" is it earthy in the sense of "crunchy" and "granola" sort of au naturale? Or is it earthy the way that "tu" is suggestive of in Chinese parlance: base. Allan challenges all of these notions, and with a righteous, and hard-earned absurdist touch. Farm is Table has caught much attention on the interwebs, and spawned a number of copycats in the flesh. Co-created with architect Michael Yarinsky of Tangible Space, the project is a playful reimagining of the farm-to-table experience. Farm is Table literally integrates the table into the earth, with diners seated in a trench carved between rows of trees, and hand-picked wildflowers serving as the table centrepieces. This immersive design transforms a simple meal into a multi-sensory exploration, both playfully jousting with and seriously interrogating conventional notions of dining and art.  Allan's work reminds me so much of Walter De Maria's New York Earth Room, which I visited in 2001 as a student at Tisch. The Earth Room was a gallery space with white walls, displaying a pile of dirt--- and here is the key---and displaying nothing but that pile of dirt (maybe it was more like a bed of dirt, as it was spread relatively evenly). It was "found art," it was so natural, but marrying a $0 commodity to $$$$ commercial-residential Manhattan property constraints was so ludicrously unnatural; it was so simple, but so improbable; so real (what is realer than a pile of dirt?), but so abstract. I was enthralled. It is my favourite installation ever in NYC. Allan's work harkens back to this tradition, and in the episode you will see that Allan can effortlessly place himself and his work into a much broader critical context. He poses some of the same questions as De Maria, and from the first moment I encountered Farm is Table, I'm like whoa!  Allan also situates the project within a particular lineage, linking it to F.T. Marinetti’s 1932 Futurist Cookbook, which was all about merging culinary and fine arts through provocative and absurdist meals. Farm is Table is, in many ways, a modern update of this avant-garde spirit. We also touch on some of the other project's from Allan and Michael's New Futurist Cookbook, which they are hoping to release in the near future. Simple vs complex is a recurring theme on Vanilla Club Podcast. It seems that the virality of Farm Is Table has a lot to do with making the ordinary into something extraordinary. And as Allan reminds us in the podcast, "You don't need to use expensive materials or complex construction. You can work small. You can work from a corner of your apartment and make amazingly important work." We hope you enjoy.

    1h 24m
  4. Feb 23

    21. Danny Kinzer: I'm a Braddah and They Call Me Big Country

    This episode is a first for the show: a live, walking conversation recorded on-premises at Vanilla Club, on the lush Cassowary Coast in Tropical North Queensland, before picking up later in the urban jungle of Sydney. (Please give me some credit for my assimilation into Aussie culture--- if you watch the video you will see I am reppin' the "high-viz," screaming neon orange hat, and a ripper of a neon yellow vest, thank you!) What unfolds here isn't a typical interview, but a shared journey through neolithic rainforest, across rivers with “potential for crocs,” and into deeper reflections on place, and community. Our guest Danny Kinzer, is a former high-school classmate of mine. Physically speaking, imagine a composite of Dave Bautista and Jason Momoa; you get the picture stature-wise; but Danny has a better smile than either of them on their best day, and is one of the warmest braddahs you'll ever meet. Danny describes himself less as a storyteller and more as a voyager, guide, and student of relationship. He has worked in education and some adjacent spaces with some big names like National Geographic, Hōkūleʻa Crew, and The Biomimicry Institute, and has been associated with some stellar institutions, but a name-dropper he is not. And the tenor of this conversation is a lot more subtle. So we will just go with the braddah-ship. As the walk begins, the conversation opens into the Hawaiian ecological concept of "kipuka" - pockets of life that survive disruption and seed future regeneration. Vanilla Club becomes a living example: a working farm that also acts as a sanctuary, and a meeting place for human, animal and plant life. From there, we flow across disciplines and life chapters. Danny reflects on stepping away from competitive sport, when he realised the game mattered less to him than the people. That same instinct, to choose meaning over metrics (and the persistent, omni-optimisation that surrounds so many of us), threads through his studies in neuroscience and psychology, his later work in biomimicry, and a life shaped by walking, wandering, and listening. Rather than chasing famous destinations, Danny speaks about “Lake Okobojis”: ordinary places made extraordinary through relationship. A small island village in China reached on foot. A spontaneous visit to Anaconda, Montana. Swimming mangroves in Bali. Danny is the type of guy who would be down grabbing a bag of rice and heading upriver in to the wild, and I just love it. Tripadvisor... schmipadvisor The ocean emerges as a central metaphor - less a boundary than a vast connector, “a million rivers flowing at once.” Living in Hawaii, Danny shares how voyaging canoes and intergenerational knowledge have shaped his understanding of community, where children, elders, and ancestors are all part of the same crew. If I said it it'd be cliché, but Danny just lives the Aloha spirit. Returning to the Cassowary Coast, the conversation closes where it began: with gratitude for a place that feels alive, unfinished (in a good way!), and willing to move without a fixed destination. We hope you enjoy.

    33 min
  5. 12/05/2025

    19. Zac Petersen: Inside the Hive - The Hidden World of Bees

    Cairns Native Bee In this breezy but immersive episode, Vanilla Club Podcast gets out of the studio and into the field, or the paddock, as they say Down Under. I sit down with Zac Peterson, founder of Cairns Native Bee/Hinterland Hives, and Anoob Davidraj, a fellow Vanilla Club team member, to unpack the remarkable world of bees. What begins as a conversation about starting our own apiary at Vanilla Club, quickly expands into a sweeping exploration of the craft of beekeeping, and the science of the hive mind. They are wonderful creatures these bees! As the episode unfolds, we dive into the chemistry of taste - how compounds, plant stress responses, soil profiles, and even pollination behaviours influence what we perceive on the tongue. This is terroir if I have ever seen it, applicable as much to Chardonnay grapes in France as it is to native Australian honey in Queensland. One of the episode’s highlights is Zac’s breakdown of honey production: how bees perform the waggle dance to guide others to nectar, why honey flavour changes every season, and how a single hive with ten frames can produce ten completely different honeys depending on where its foragers decide to fly. With yields ranging from 30 to 60 kilos a year, each hive becomes its own micro-ecosystem of chemistry and flavour. We discuss the calming effect of smoke, to the evolutionary reasons bees are more aggressive toward darker colours - a survival trait shaped by ancient predators. Are bees racist? We now know the answer. Anoob shares a bit of his background with us, tracing his passion for beekeeping back to his childhood in South India, where his family produced seasonal honey from blooming rubber trees.  We then reflect on the future of ethical beekeeping, the alarming impact of agricultural chemicals, and the urgent need for younger keepers. In preparation of our own Vanilla Club honey concoctions, we are embracing the idea that we are partners with our bees; in fact their collective decision making determine the precise flavours of each season. Keep it sweet! We hope you enjoy.

    46 min

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At Vanilla Club, our idea of 'Simple Wellness' is both timely and timeless. We pride ourselves on a "back to basics" approach to life, love, and wellbeing.Vanilla Club Podcast delves into how everyday people - often those closest to trauma - find ways to heal and improve their mental and physical wellbeing amid stress, complexity, and even desperation.Unlike mainstream wellness narratives that focus on optimising the lives of high achievers, we aim to share stories of resilience and resourcefulness from the "quiet achiever".