Tell Me Where I'm Going (Wrong)

Josh Leuner and Sean O'Callaghan

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Two exes engage in an irreverent chat about pop culture, ageing in the queer world, and what it's like for a romantic relationship to morph into friendship. Interspersed are funny quips about current events, as well as plenty of trips down memory lane. Enjoy the ride!

4d ago

Ep 114 - Gaga, Kylie, Cyndi and… bulbs?

This week Josh and Sean are talking a LOT about Lady Gaga. The duo discuss the recent onslaught of news about Gaga including her AI tech company Outer Bio, her super fan Kirill Nguyen being released from prison, and the advertising campaign with Japanese convenience chain Family Mart. The episode also features Josh’s Plant Corner, a new segment in which he shares insights from the world of horticulture! This week’s topic is bulbs. Josh and Sean also chat about Kylie Minogue performing at the AFL Grand Final and music superstar Cyndi Lauper releasing a long lost song after 40 years. Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CyndiLauper #GagaDaily #OuterBio #FamilyMart #Kylie About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Mentioned in this episode Pitchfork interview with Kirill Nguyen: https://pitchfork.com/story/how-the-founder-of-lady-gaga-biggest-fan-site-ended-up-in-prison/ New Cyndi Lauper song, The River Cried: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlIEXppriM8 Kylie’s AFL Halftime Performance at the MCG: https://youtu.be/dQWkCaLjwCE?si=vLknVgEskyDTeUfZ Photo and video of Josh’s Nerine flower: https://www.instagram.com/p/DdyXNUWEXGK/?img_index=1 What The F**k Is Going On Podcast with Paul Holden: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ep-193-with-paul-holden-pt-1-the-mcsweeney-project/id1573424189?i=1000790873826 Four Course Vegan Supper Club at Dauns Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/classic-dauns-vegan-supper-club-tickets-1999718801767 Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Gratitude 02:50 Lady Gaga's Unusual Advertising Campaign 05:51 The Intersection of Celebrity and Marketing 08:46 Gaga's Fan's Remarkable Story 11:51 Cyndi Lauper's New Release 14:57 Kylie Minogue's Performance at AFL Grand Final 22:04 Kylie Minogue's Halftime Show Review 26:05 The Evolution of Halftime Shows 29:21 Josh's Plant Corner 29:58 Heated Rivalry: A Surprising Recommendation 32:00 Navigating Controversial Topics 39:12 The Complexity of Public Opinion 40:27 Celebrities and Social Responsibility 47:05 Outro
Sep 22

Ep 113 - Thinking Out Loud About Gaza

This week Josh and Sean take on a topic that has dominated the Internet for the past few weeks. The duo share their thoughts on the controversy surrounding Ed Sheeran in light of Macklemore being removed as the opening act for a portion of the English performer’s Loop Tour in the USA. The episode touches on the problematic influence of billionaire mogul Robert Kraft which resulted in Seattle rapper Macklemore being made a scapegoat for speaking up against the atrocities being committed against the Palestinian people. Josh and Sean also consider the actions of other performers who withdrew from the tour in solidarity with Macklemore and what impact this whole affair will have on the legacy of artists like Sheeran and Pink. Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CurrentAffairs #EdSheeran #Pink #Macklemore #tellmewhereimgoingwrong #Gaza #Israel About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Mentioned in this episode Four Course Vegan Supper Club at Dauns Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/classic-dauns-vegan-supper-club-tickets-1999718801767 Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Dynamics 02:48 Beard Care and Personal Grooming 05:51 AI Concerns and Public Discourse 08:55 Celebrity Struggles with Addiction 11:43 Isolation in Addiction Recovery 14:49 Pop Culture and Celebrity News 17:52 Botanical Discoveries and Plant Enthusiasm 22:38 The Magic of Live Performances 23:41 Controversy in the Music Industry 25:44 The Fallout of Macklemore's Statements 29:44 The Response from Ed Sheeran and Pink 33:36 Solidarity Among Artists 37:50 The Bigger Picture: Genocide and Responsibility 42:00 Concluding Thoughts on Music and Activism 46:59 Outro
Sep 15

Ep 112 - Hey Sexy Mama, Wanna K*ll All Humans?

This week Josh and Sean dive head first into online rumours that Lady Gaga is now a mother. Breaking news from gossip sites claimed that Gaga and her partner Michael Polansky are proud parents of a recently-born baby. Josh and Sean join in the wild speculation about when the international superstar could possibly have found time to have a child… and if it’s any of their business! The episode also touches on the recent rise in interest about AI and chatbots, especially in light of ex-Anthropic employee Jacob Coxon sharing concerns about AI potentially being harmful to the entire human species. Josh and Sean weigh up if they think we are really in danger from AI or if the scaremongering is all part of a plan to raise more capital and investment. Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CurrentAffairs #JacobCoxon #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #Anthropic #LadyGaga #MichaelPolansky #tellmewhereimgoingwrong About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Mentioned in this episode Black Box: The Chatbots Podcast: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/series/blackbox Four Course Vegan Supper Club at Dauns Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/classic-dauns-vegan-supper-club-tickets-1999718801767 Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Chaos 02:34 Carry On Films and British Comedy 05:23 Lady Gaga's Surprise Baby 11:30 AI and the Future of Humanity 17:41 The Dangers of AI and Human Connection 22:08 The Intersection of AI and Human Relationships 23:31 The Potential Dangers of AI Technology 25:40 The Inevitable Downfall: AI and Society 27:52 AI in Healthcare: Boon or Bane? 30:21 The Economic Impact of AI on Employment 32:28 The AI Hype: Investment and Fear-Mongering 35:16 The Political Implications of AI 37:21 The Reality of AI Capabilities 38:28 Personal Reflections and Health Concerns 46:18 Outro
Sep 8

Ep 111 - Love in an Elevator

This week Josh and Sean share their staggering lack of knowledge when it comes to feminist activist, Gloria Steinem. When it comes to discussing facts about Steinem following her death, Josh and Sean prove little else apart from the fact that Sean knows that she was the stepmother of Christian Bale and founded Ms. magazine. Sean rants about his pet peeve when it comes to the general population not understanding how elevators work. You need to push the up button when you want to call a lift to take you up, people! The episode also checks in on the pair as they continue to come to terms with the sad death of music, movie, and philanthropic megastar Dolly Parton. Will Josh have processed enough grief in order to visit Dollywood next month? Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CurrentAffairs #GloriaSteinem #DollyParton #feminism #elevators #tellmewhereimgoingwrong About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Mentioned in this episode Teen Jesus and the Jean Teasers cover All The Things She Said on Like A Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3yZft2BNTA&list=RDZ3yZft2BNTA&start_radio=1 Four-Course Vegan Supper Club at Dauns Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/classic-dauns-vegan-supper-club-tickets-1999718801767 Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Wordle Discussion 01:57 Processing Grief: Dolly Parton's Impact 04:58 Dolly Fest: A Celebration of Life 08:05 Miley Cyrus and Modern Music Trends 11:06 Concert Experiences: Teen Jesus and the Gene Teasers 13:57 Social Norms at Concerts 17:12 Cultural Reflections on Music and Media 21:00 Elevator Etiquette and Everyday Frustrations 23:05 Elevator Etiquette and Digital Literacy 34:26 The Impact of Technology on Human Behaviour 44:00 Remembering Gloria Steinem: A Complex Legacy 46:30 Outro
Sep 1

Ep 110 - We Will Always Love Dolly

This week Josh and Sean share their profound sadness over the death of universal megastar and undisputed cultural icon, Dolly Parton. The pair discuss Dolly’s lifelong dedication to compassion, her support of diverse communities, her connection with LGBT communities, her charitable work, and her cross-generational appeal that the world has never seen before and will probably never see again. The episode also touches on the death of acting and voiceover legend, Tim Curry. Josh and Sean talk about their love of Tim’s influential performance in The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CurrentAffairs #DollyParton #Dollywood #TimCurry #RockyHorror #tellmewhereimgoingwrong About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Reflections 04:43 Dolly's Impact and Connection with Fans 06:40 Dolly as a Cultural Icon 10:48 Dolly's Omnipresence in Life 12:55 Reactions to Dolly's Passing 15:41 Favourite Dolly Songs and Their Significance 18:37 Dolly's Acceptance and Love for All 21:46 Dolly's Legacy and Selflessness 25:41 Personal Anecdotes and Final Thoughts 26:33 The Uniqueness of Dolly Parton 27:31 A Bittersweet Pilgrimage to Dollywood 29:09 Reflecting on Celebrity Losses 30:13 Tim Curry's Impact on Queer Cinema 32:14 Tim Curry's Versatility in Film 34:36 The Legacy of Tim Curry 36:34 Rocky Horror's Cultural Significance 39:34 Audience Participation in Rocky Horror 41:51 Demis Roussos and a Hijacked Plane 44:57 Emotional Responses to Celebrity Deaths 46:59 Outro
Aug 25

Ep 109 - Sue would like to hear Demis Roussos

This week Josh and Sean discuss Josh’s 50th birthday celebrations which took place the night before recording of this episode. They danced the night away at a north London vegan venue and met a few listeners of the podcast! The pair also discuss their favourite stand up comedians including Stewart Lee, Frankie Boyle, and Meg Stalter. Josh shares his thoughts on being a bit let down by the recent Kristen Schaal show he attended, although he was impressed by opener Chloe Petts. The episode also revisits the hosts’ love for Abigail’s party, the legendary filmed-for-television play featuring iconic actor Alison Steadman. It is the reason why Josh and Sean call each other Sue every episode! Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CurrentAffairs #vegan #AbigailsParty #AlisonSteadman #KristenSchaal #ChloePetts #Comedy #UKcomedy About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Hosts 00:50 The Concept of Money and Happiness 02:46 Exploring Emotional Blocks and Mental Health 05:49 Comedy: Subjectivity and Personal Preferences 08:48 Stand-Up Comedy: What Makes It Funny? 11:50 Live Comedy Experience: Kristen Schaal's Show 17:45 Reflections on Absurdist Comedy and Personal Taste 23:46 Comedy and Performance Styles 27:00 The Challenge of Live Comedy 31:49 Feedback and Audience Reception 33:56 Celebrating Milestones and Community 45:19 Cultural References and Shared Humour 46:49 Outro
Aug 18

Ep 108 - Total Eclipse of the Charts

This week Josh and Sean discuss the record-breaking chart performance of Kylie Minogue and Madonna as their collaboration, Love Sensation, hits the UK top ten. How many more hits does Madonna need to pass Cliff Richard? Why don’t old people know how to stream music? All this and more is discussed! The pair also discuss the recent partial eclipse seen around the UK and how the moon is actually travelling away from Earth, meaning one day eclipses will be a thing of the past. But don’t worry. That won’t happen for another 650 million years or so. The episode also explores the rising cost of renting a home in London. From bedrooms in share houses to caravans in a stranger’s driveway, working class people are being forced out of the capital by extortionate rents for tiny properties. Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CurrentAffairs #vegan #Madonna #Kylie #KylieMinogue #LoveSensation #Eclipse #London #RentalCrisis Mentioned in this episode Tickets for Queer Vegan Disco on 21st August: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/queer-vegan-disco-tickets-1993624603857 About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 The Art of Selective Pruning 03:38 Celebrating Birthdays and Plant Care 09:43 Madonna and Kylie's Chart Success 19:37 Streaming vs. Physical Sales in Music 21:17 The Streaming Dilemma: Charting Success 24:33 Housing Crisis in London: The Cost of Living 29:51 The Struggles of Job Hunting in London 37:11 Eclipses and the Future of Earth 45:05 Public Safety Alerts: A Necessary Measure? 46:51 Outro
Aug 11

Ep 107 - Quicker Than a Ray of Light

This week Josh and Sean discuss the recent (and historic) controversies surrounding celebrity gossip blogger, Perez Hilton. Following the blogger’s apparent mental health emergency that was live-streamed, the duo discuss how he mistreated mostly-female celebrities across decades. The pair also discuss the death of music producer William Orbit, most known for his collaboration with Madonna on her Ray of Light album. Sean explores the diversity of Orbit’s work and uncovers some surpassing collaborations including Betty Boo, Blur, and Belinda Carlisle. The episode also explores the current UK political landscape as Josh suggests that perhaps the Conservative Party is losing votes to Reform (and Restore) because some voters don’t want to support a Black woman (Kemi Badenoch) as the potential Prime Minister. Enjoy the ride! #podcast #popculture #LGBTQ #CurrentAffairs #vegan #PerezHilton #WilliamOrbit #RayOfLight #Madonna #UKpolitics #KemiBadenoch Mentioned in this episode Tickets for Queer Vegan Disco on 21st August: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/queer-vegan-disco-tickets-1993624603857 About the Hosts Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here: https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan Theme Music Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts - Stream it here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Light Banter 02:25 Celebrity Gossip and Mental Health 05:27 The Controversial Figure of Perez Hilton 08:37 The Impact of Celebrity Culture 11:38 Mental Health and Public Perception 14:35 Empathy in the Age of Social Media 17:25 Pop Culture and Personal Taste 22:09 Remembering William Orbit 35:03 The Conservative Party's Controversial Candidate 46:28 Celebrating Milestones and Upcoming Events 46:36 Outro

Two exes engage in an irreverent chat about pop culture, ageing in the queer world, and what it's like for a romantic relationship to morph into friendship. Interspersed are funny quips about current events, as well as plenty of trips down memory lane. Enjoy the ride!

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Josh Leuner and Sean O'Callaghan
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2025 - 2026
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114
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