Goodpain Podcast

Goodpain Podcast

Goodpain Podcast is an invitation to reclaim the space for honest, candid conversations about our struggles, about not knowing, about the wisdom found simply in enduring.. Like the ancient tribes, gathering around a fire to share hard-won wisdom, we'll talk about life's true intensities: the raw realities of parenting, the relentless demands of careers, the shattering impact of tragedy, the quiet burden of pain, and the unexpected moments of joy that flicker in between. Because whether your struggle was a sudden storm or a slow erosion, your story is meaningful. 

  1. 6d ago

    Goodpain Podcast S03E03: Dr. Patricia June Vickers – Making a Way Back Home, Part 1 | Candid Conversations. Underdog Wisdom

    What happens when we reach the end of ourselves and surrender to the Great Mystery? In this episode of Goodpain, hosts Tyler is joined by Indigenous psychotherapist, educator, and survivor Patricia June Vickers, PhD. Born into the Eagle tribe in Kitkatla with ancestral ties to the Heiltsuk and Haida nations, Patricia shares her journey of unlearning institutional church conditioning, moving past the shadow of residential school trauma, and discovering a creative process rooted in creativity and self-discovery. Moving away from rigid dogma, she illustrates how everyone is a maker of their own path when guided by the sacred lifecycle of ancestral law (Ayaawx). Through her story, Patricia explores how honoring our innate compulsion to create brings us to surrender deep personal wounds to be reclaimed as sacred. Inside This Episode Patricia & Tyler hold a conversation about stepping into the "great unknown," unpacking how living creatively requires surrendering the need for complete control: Unlearning (Releasing & Forgiving) Church Conditioning: Patricia reflects on growing up in the Anglican church as an Indigenous woman, navigating the oppressive "false truths" of institutional religion and learning to step outside rigid theological structures. The Deception of Control & The Garden: How the primal human struggle stems from the deception that we can dominate knowledge and control our destiny, rather than accepting the uncertainty of the Great Mystery. Neurobiology, Seeking Systems, and Trauma: Drawing on Jaak Panksepp's seeking systems and Frank Corrigan's Deep Brain Reorienting, Patricia explains how trauma locks us into despair, and how we can reorient our attention toward love and truth. Moments of Complete Collapse & Surrender: Facing sub-zero cold in an RV when her furnace failed, Patricia shares how coming to the end of oneself opens the door to genuine transformation without a rigid formula. Forgiveness as Daily Practice: Why true forgiveness is not forgetting or pardoning abuse, but releasing the toxic desire to punish oneself or others, turning daily choices toward healing.Rather than giving a prescriptive checklist on how to be more creative, Patricia offers an invitation into artful living, demonstrating the creative courage required to navigate deep grief and overcome creative block. By anchoring our daily creative practice in breath, presence, and ancestral connection, we discover that making art and expressing truth is ultimately a journey of finding your creative voice and embracing artistic expression as a form of sacred ceremony. Notable Quotes "Forgiveness is no longer the need to punish the other person, or to punish myself... It's accepting that I can't change what was done." — Patricia Vickers "That state of collapse is really me coming to the end of me." — Patricia Vickers "All I have to do is just slightly turn my head, delight in truth and love." — Patricia Vickers PATRICIA'S LINKS Raven's Call Canada | Dr. Vicker's Website

    Goodpain Podcast S03E03: Dr. Patricia June Vickers – Making a Way Back Home, Part 1 | Candid Conversations. Underdog Wisdom
  2. Sep 3

    Goodpain S03E02: TK Dutes – Making. Breaking. Remaking. | Candid Conversations. Underdog Wisdom.

    What happens when the systems designed to support your dream end up crushing your spirit? In this episode of Goodpain, hosts Jeremy and Tyler sit down with media veteran, educator, and artist TK Dutes. For fifteen years, TK lived a split life, enduring exhausting 16-hour nursing shifts in pediatric home care to survive while chasing the magical "show highs" of hosting independent hip-hop showcases and WBAI community radio. When she transitioned into professional podcasting, she discovered that the "podcast industrial complex" was replicating the same exclusionary corporate structures she sought to escape. This is a story of creativity and self-discovery, charting a path from systemic burnout to personal repair, proving that everyone is a maker and reclaiming the compulsion to create on your own terms. Inside This Episode Through an incredibly candid conversation, TK Dutes unpacks her journey through the heavy machinery of healthcare and media, sharing how she reclaimed her creative identity when both systems failed her: The Early Search for Validation: From extreme magazine collage walls to editing her high school paper, TK reflects on her early creative process and the challenge of finding your creative voice per the rules of a medium The Splitting of Self: How she balanced exhausting clinical nursing shifts with weekend community radio, navigating the profound gap between a corporate healthcare machine and the immediate dopamine of live performance Replicating Legacy Media: The heartbreaking realization that the professional podcast boom chose to replicate toxic corporate structures, and the pain of witnessing peer creators conform to those same systems Smashing Resin & Finding Autonomy: How a physical accident - stepping on a curing resin plate - became a breakthrough in her creative practice. By picking up a hammer and smashing her work on purpose, TK bypassed her creative block and learned that breaking things is where the magic lives Becoming an Interceptor: Today, TK uses her hard-won wisdom to act as a human "noise gate" for young creators. She shares her strategy for living creatively without selling your soul, helping others build the creative courage needed to protect their sparkInstead of a generic guide on how to be more creative, this conversation offers a raw look at the power of creativity to keep our spirit alive, exploring the depth of artistic expression and the courage required to walk away from systems that demand your soul. It’s an exploration of artful living built on genuine community care and the liberating act of making art for yourself Notable Quotes "You got to learn how to do the thing so that you can break the thing and...make it your own." — TK Dutes "The art came from taking my mind off trying to fix something that at the moment is unfixable." — TK Dutes "I don't want to do too much in your journey. I just want to just boop you a little bit so you know you're boopable and it'll be okay." — TK Dutes TK's LINKS TK's Online Portfolio | TK's Podcast: The Secret Life of TK Dutes | TK's Patreon Learn More, Connect, & Listen Goodpain Website

    Goodpain S03E02: TK Dutes – Making. Breaking. Remaking. | Candid Conversations. Underdog Wisdom.
  3. Aug 27

    Goodpain S03E01: The Compulsion to Create | Candid Conversations. Underdog Wisdom.

    Why do humans paint on cave walls, wear jewelry, and build things that serve no survival purpose? In the season three premiere of Goodpain, hosts Jeremy and Tyler kick off their new season, "The Artful Life: A Season About Making". Moving past the academic gatekeeping of who gets to be called an "artist," they explore the idea that everyone is a maker. The act of making art isn't restricted to traditional canvases; rather, it is an inescapable compulsion to create as a form of artistic expression that has defined humanity since the dawn of prehistoric cave paintings. This episode is an invitation into artful living, exploring what it looks like when we treat our ordinary days as raw material. Inside This Episode Jeremy and Tyler dive deep into the messy relationship between structure, rules, and rebellion. Through a mix of childhood memories, professional detours, and personal philosophies, they unpack the creative process and the emotional architecture of living creatively. The "Imitation Dance" and Finding Your Voice: How trying on the styles of others is a crucial step in navigating creative block and finding your creative voice. Copying the masters helps build technical chops before you can step out and carve your unique creative identity. The Battle Against Conformity: Tyler shares his own history of rebellion against rigid boundaries, from throwing an "alien with a bazooka" into a high school negative-space art assignment to getting a massive battleship tattoo mid-way through his MBA as a "middle finger" to the stifling expectations of corporate culture. Form, Function, and Provocation: Jeremy reflects on his time in a dusty, non-OSHA-approved college wood shop, learning why he values physical form over conceptual or political agendas. He explains how he uses playful, provocative titles to disrupt the viewer’s perspective, forcing them to unpack the work rather than getting it right away. The Primal Spark: Pointing to ancient cave dwellings and history, they argue that creativity is not a luxury or a modern evolution—it is a core human survival mechanic for processing the experiences that words fail to capture.Rather than offering a generic tutorial on how to be more creative, Jeremy and Tyler hold a conversation about the creative courage required to break the rules, make a mess, and align your outer work with your inner truth. Cultivating a dedicated creative practice is ultimately a lifelong journey of creativity and self-discovery. LEARN MORE The Goodpain Website: Find full episodes, resources, and sign up for our weekly Kindling newsletter at goodpainco.com CONNECT Subscribe and Review: Love the episode? Subscribe and leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to help others find our campfire

    Goodpain S03E01: The Compulsion to Create | Candid Conversations. Underdog Wisdom.
  4. Jul 9

    Goodpain Unplugged: Candid Conversation. Underdog Wisdom. – Unedited Conversation about Geeking Out

    Goodpain Unplugged is a raw, unedited conversation that pulls the curtain back on the conversations we have in preparation for our seasons. Tiffany is the victim this time, as Tyler corners her to talk about what it means to "Geek Out" and why it points at the heart of Goodpain Season 3. About This Episode  Welcome to a candid conversation about what it truly means to be "geeking out". In this episode of Goodpain Unplugged, we dive deep into the magnetic power of passion and why it connects us on such a profound level. Have you ever noticed how someone lighting up about their favorite obscure topic is instantly captivating? This episode is a pure life talk about that exact spark. We explore how unabashedly loving something—without worrying about turning it into a side hustle or justifying it to the world—fuels our personal growth and supports our mental health. From using art and metaphor when words fail us, to the fun of creative expression through childhood imagination and improv, this episode will inspire you to embrace the things that make you come alive. Timestamps (Note: Times are approximate placeholders for your audio editor) [00:00] Introduction: What does it really mean to geek out? [02:15] The Connection Meter: What The Sims teaches us about the risks of relationship building. [05:30] The Halo Effect: Lessons from La La Land on loving a passion just because you love the person. [09:00] When Words Fail: Why we reach for art, sound, and metaphors to express our inner worlds. [14:20] Pure Joy: The beauty of loving something just for the joy of it, not for money. [19:45] Blowing Up Boundaries: How The Office and Leroy Jenkins show us the creative tension of rules and chaos. [24:30] Cultivating Worlds: From Dungeons & Dragons to gardening and science.Notable Quotes "What do we do when the medium itself of talking to one another is insufficient to actually convey what is happening inside of me?" "There's a part of this person they've refused to put at the service of what works... they're going to get paid doing it. And that tells us so much more about each other."Resources Mentioned The Sims (Video Game) La La Land (Movie) The Shining (Movie reference to room 237) The Office (TV Show - Michael Scott's Improv) Leroy Jenkins (Viral Video) Project Hail Mary (Book)Listen, Rate & Subscribe! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review on your favorite podcast app! Share this episode with a friend you love geeking out with, and follow us on social media for more exclusive content.

    Goodpain Unplugged: Candid Conversation. Underdog Wisdom. –  Unedited Conversation about Geeking Out
  5. Jun 4

    Goodpain Podcast: Relando Thompkins-Jones, "This Just Ain't Working for Us", Social Justice Origin Stories | Candid Conversation. Underdog Wisdom (S02E20)

    This just ain't working for us...and it does not have to be this way. About This Episode Can we be strong enough to name what is broken without demanding everyone speak our language?. In this deep dive interview, Tyler sits down with Relando to explore how power shapes the very terms of our engagement—from who gets to be heard to who gets to claim they are being "rational". They discuss the "canary in the coal mine"—the word "just"—and how it is often used as a defensive mechanism to waive away accountability for systemic harm. Through the power of storytelling, Relando shares his own origin story running through Detroit, witnessing firsthand how landscapes and resources change across racialized borders. He highlights how intentional "design decisions," such as redlining and the GI Bill, have created disparities that reverberate across generations. This conversation invites us into a collective maturation where we stop hiding behind good intentions and find the courage to mourn what has been lost—not only for the oppressed but for the humanity we sacrificed within ourselves to uphold dehumanizing systems. These topics are pointed and may spark internal resistance. Invite your objections to come along for the ride. Do not let them close your ears to the message. You are strong enough to lead with your humanity. We must name what is broken to find collective hope. Let’s engage these difficult questions together.  About Relando Relando Thompkins-Jones is a macro social worker, social justice  educator, strategist, and storyteller who uses media and education to  advance equity and social justice within people, organizations, and  communities. For more than a decade, he has worked across higher  education, nonprofit, public, and private sectors, planning and  implementing experiential activities and projects that advance  diversity, inclusion, equity, and social justice.He is also the  Founder & Director of Narrative Strategy and Learning Ecosystem at  Social Justice Origin Stories, a multimedia storytelling project that  explores the personal experiences, defining moments, and influences that  inspire people and organizations to pursue social justice. Through  conversations with activists, educators, organizers, scholars, and  everyday changemakers, the project seeks to reduce isolation among  justice-seekers, preserve community wisdom, and help listeners discover  their own place in the work.The phrase "If we can change how we  think, we can change what we do" is central to Relando's approach, and  he finds fulfillment in engaging with others using the liberatory power  of storytelling, education, and authentic human connection to co-create  the conditions for collective thriving. Website: Social Justice Origin Stories | YouTube Channel | Audio Podlink Media Mentions Becoming the People Podcast Episode: Grief is the Medicine Danger of the Single Story TED Talk by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee

    Goodpain Podcast: Relando Thompkins-Jones, "This Just Ain't Working for Us", Social Justice Origin Stories | Candid Conversation. Underdog Wisdom (S02E20)
  6. May 28

    Goodpain: Candid Conversation. Underdog Wisdom – The Architecture of Legacy and the Wisdom of Maturity (S02E19)

    Episode Summary In this episode, Jeremy and Tyler explore the profound responsibility of becoming a good ancestor in a world that often prioritizes immediate gratification over long-term resonance. The hosts discuss how personal maturation is found in overcoming fear and the baser instincts that keep us trapped in predictable, reactive habits. By letting go of control and the impulse to stabilize or "ix every chaotic moment, we open ourselves up to a deeper curiosity and the ability to witness life's inherent beauty. The conversation encourages a shift toward intentional living, moving from unconscious behaviors to conscious choices that align with the highest version of ourselves. Central to this discussion is a critique of modern society’s obsession with convenience, which the hosts argue can lead us to trade our humanity for predictability and comfort. Ultimately, they invite listeners to embrace the goodpain of self-governance and accountability to build a legacy that transcends the narrow limitations of the present. Key Themes and Discussion Points: Legacy and Meaning: The hosts redefine legacy not as a monumental external lift, but as an expression of a higher version of oneself. They discuss the importance of contributing to a "reclamation" of the wisdom class, where being a "wisdom holder" becomes a primary life purpose for those moving into the second half of life. The Journey of Personal Growth: The conversation highlights the transition from immature to mature expression, which involves a migration from unconscious, reactive behaviors into intentional, conscious choosing. This personal growth requires transcending old habits and baser instincts to align with who we truly want to become. Developing Emotional Maturity and Self-Awareness: Emotional maturity is characterized by the expansion of internal roles—moving beyond being just a "problem solver" or "fixer" to becoming a "witness" to life as it unfolds. This requires deep self-awareness, questioning why we react to slights or chaos in predictable ways after decades of life. Navigating Fear and Control: Tyler shares a vulnerable account of a health scare that forced him to confront the fear and control that often drive our reactions. He describes the liberating mindset shift that occurs when one chooses curiosity over the need to "right the chaos" or predetermine how a situation should be solved. The Power of Conscious Living: Conscious living is presented as the practice of "catching one's breath" and taking a step back to get curious about the root of our actions. It involves setting aside the "idolatry of comfort" and convenience to embrace the necessary, and often "good," pain of self-governance and accountability. Fostering Human Connection through the "Bridges of Meghalaya": Using the metaphor of living root bridges that take generations to grow, the hosts discuss the necessity of human connection and intergenerational stewardship. They argue that true progress comes from "bumping into the messiness of other people" rather than retreating into algorithmic bubbles of certainty.

    Goodpain: Candid Conversation. Underdog Wisdom – The Architecture of Legacy and the Wisdom of Maturity (S02E19)

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Goodpain Podcast is an invitation to reclaim the space for honest, candid conversations about our struggles, about not knowing, about the wisdom found simply in enduring.. Like the ancient tribes, gathering around a fire to share hard-won wisdom, we'll talk about life's true intensities: the raw realities of parenting, the relentless demands of careers, the shattering impact of tragedy, the quiet burden of pain, and the unexpected moments of joy that flicker in between. Because whether your struggle was a sudden storm or a slow erosion, your story is meaningful.