Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast

Chelsea Owens and KP Kaszubowski
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Where we explore how inner parts and planetary archetypes speak to one another. partsandcharts.substack.com

  1. 10/28/2025

    20: Season One Finale — The Magician Season Awaits

    In the twentieth and final episode of Season One of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP reflect on what they’ve learned through twenty weeks of exploring the intersections of astrology, Internal Family Systems, and the inner worlds of creativity and healing. Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. They look back on how the project began as a simple experiment and became a practice of shared discovery—testing, trusting, and tending to their own parts along the way. From astrology’s structure and symbolism to IFS’s intuitive flow, the two hosts explore what it means to live without an agenda, to “be like water,” and to let the work itself reveal its next form. The episode closes with setting intentions for Season Two: The Magician Season, where they’ll invite more guests, deepen their experiments, and bring their integration work into practice and play. Time Stamps & Topics 00:00 — Welcome to Episode 20 and the close of Season One02:00 — What surprised and delighted us this season04:00 — How Chelsea’s view of astrology has evolved06:00 — Playfulness, memes, and ethical astrology08:00 — How IFS continues to shape Chelsea’s worldview10:00 — Practicing therapy without agenda and trusting the client’s system13:00 — KP on the tension between structure (astrology) and flow (IFS)16:00 — The power of being in the present moment19:00 — Learning through experience vs. collecting information24:00 — Reimagining client-led astrology sessions29:00 — Learning through one’s own system and the value of embodiment33:00 — Encouragement, integration, and creative boldness37:00 — Reflections on growth and gratitude for Season One40:00 — Setting intentions for Season Two: The Magician Season Resources Mentioned * Internal Family Systems (IFS): a therapeutic model by Dr. Richard Schwartz exploring self-leadership through working with inner parts. * Chiron: discussed as an archetype of wounding and healing within astrology. * The Magician Archetype: representing integration, practice, and creative manifestation — the energy guiding Season Two. * Tarot’s Major Arcana (The Fool → The Magician): referenced as symbolic stages of creative and spiritual development. For those applying to grad programs in counseling: * Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau Connect with Us ✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack 📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack 🎧 Share this episode with anyone exploring their own intersections of intuition, creativity, and healing. Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.com Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

    45 min

  2. 10/21/2025

    19: Motherhood Parts with Tarot Reader Cory Sargeant

    In this episode, Tarot Reader and PR founder Cory Sargeant joins Chelsea and KP for a conversation that moves from chart analysis to embodied revelation. As Cory explores her Ceres and Moon placements, she begins recognizing the lineage of care that lives through her — from her Shinnecock ancestry to the spiritual connection she still feels with her mother. Through IFS and intuitive imagery, she meets new “motherhood parts” of herself: protective, playful, and deeply wise. [to watch the video version, head over to Substack or YouTube. For the audio version, listen through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.] Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. About Our Guest Cory Sargeant is a Tarot Reader, intuitive, and founder of Sargeant PR (https://sargeantpr.com/) and SAY IT DO IT (https://www.sayit-doit.com/). Her interest in the mystical began in childhood, growing up in a spiritually fluid home where her grandmother read astrology charts and her mother gifted her a first Tarot deck in middle school. A descendant of Shinnecock shamans, Cory’s psychic abilities first emerged through prophetic dreams, shaping a lifelong devotion to intuitive practice. She has since conducted more than a thousand Tarot readings, offering guidance that blends clarity, compassion, and spiritual grounding. Beyond her work in intuitive arts, Cory leads a creative career in public relations and lives in Los Angeles with her husband and their dog, Rothko. She is joyfully expecting her first child. Time Stamps & Topics 00:03 – Intro and welcome00:29 – Introducing guest Cory Sargeant03:02 – Framing today: astrology then IFS; Cory’s question about motherhood04:43 – Cory shares how she’s approaching the question about motherhood06:36 – Asteroid placements: Ceres in Cancer in the second house07:49 – Jupiter and Chiron also in the second house; meaning for material security08:19 – Focus on the second house as material/security energy for parenting10:22 – Distinction between Moon and Ceres for nurturance and mothering style11:34 – Moon–Ceres synergy in Cory’s chart (Virgo/Cancer harmony)13:17 – Chart takeaway: material security, partnership, and readiness for children15:26 – Question: What will Cory learn about herself through motherhood?16:31 – Fifth house read — Gemini rising, Mercury and Mars in fifth house (play & drive)17:48 – Interaction between Libra (fifth house) and Sagittarius (seventh house) energies18:14 – “Earth mother” / green-Tara image and grounded, elegant parenting style19:12 – Sun/self-energy in daily routine and service; satisfaction and nesting22:23 – Closing astrology section: partnership as fertile ground for childbearing39:50 – Transition inward: invitation to notice parts and body sensations (IFS work)41:45 – Guided embodiment: breath, body scan, noticing fetal movement42:02 – Noticing Odin moving; description of sensation as “a little fish”43:27 – Locating physical sensations: organs moving, poking, constriction43:51 – Imagery and color: lime green texture, lizard / gecko image emerges44:28 – Emotional material: responsibility, grief, remembering earlier pet gecko45:17 – The gecko’s presence: motherly connection and comfort47:49 – Processing fear about mortality and staying connected to deceased mother50:49 – Visualization practice: a golden thread / daily check-in ritual51:24 – Gratitude and closing of inner session; returning to the room55:58 – Personal pull: Cory draws Empress + Six of Cups + Moon reflections57:17 – How to find Cory and offerings (Instagram handle, voice-note & Zoom readings) For those applying to grad programs in counseling: * Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau Connect with Us ✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack 📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack 🎧 Share this episode with someone walking through transformation, creativity, or motherhood. Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.com Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

    1h 1m

  3. 10/14/2025

    18: The Libra Archetype (Pt. 4 in the Zodiac Series)

    In this eighteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore the Libra archetype (the sign of balance, beauty, and relationship) and its connection to parts work, projection, and self-reflection. Together, they discuss Libra’s mythic symbolism, Venus’s rulership, the spectrum between harmony and conflict avoidance, and how Libra teaches us to meet others without losing ourselves. [to watch the video version, head over to Substack or YouTube. For the audio version, listen through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.] Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Resources Mentioned * Internal Family Systems (IFS) — discussion of parts that mediate, mirror, and balance internal voices * Venus rulership — connecting aesthetics and relational skill * Aries–Libra axis — polarity of assertion and harmony * Ritual practices — embodying balance through beauty, symmetry, and choice For those applying to grad programs in counseling: * Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau Connect with Us ✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack 📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts 📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack 🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s learning how to balance honesty, beauty, and connection. Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.com Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

    50 min

  4. 10/07/2025

    17: Friendship Parts

    In this seventeenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP dive into the soul of friendship — from the IFS parts that crave connection to the astrological placements that reveal how we bond, detach, and heal through friendship. Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. They explore Mercury’s and Venus’s friendship archetypes, Saturn’s lessons in boundaries and endurance, and the ways we unconsciously attract both safety and adventure in our closest relationships. [to watch the video version, head over to Substack or YouTube. For the audio version, listen through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app.] Time Stamps & Topics 00:00 – Opening reflections on friendship through the lens of IFS and astrology00:45 – Mercury and Venus as friendship archetypes: communication vs. mirroring03:17 – “The people who have endured with you over time are your gold friends.” – KP05:00 – Chelsea confesses: “I need to come clean and say that I was in a sorority.”07:05 – Lifelong friendship patterns: “I’ve always had to have a best friend.” – Chelsea08:57 – Reading Chelsea’s chart: Venus in Gemini in the 11th house, Jupiter in Aquarius in the 7th10:59 – Best friend signatures in astrology: Sagittarius and Pisces energy13:12 – “I know that if I show up that way, I’ll attract more of that.” – Chelsea17:05 – Boundaries and safety in connection: “I want to know where people stand.” – Chelsea18:03 – “We’re looking for the other in the chart — the friend in the chart — but it’s also us as the friend.” – KP20:05 – When friendships end: grief, loss, and identity29:00 – “I’ve been trying to figure out friendship for so long, and there’s just not a lot written about it.” – Chelsea30:34 – “Friendship makes your life rich. If you don’t have a certain type of friendship, your life feels cold.” – KP34:00 – “What’s your friend element? That’s the trailhead.” – KP35:01 – The story of how KP and Chelsea met through a tarot book club36:49 – “I am a ride-or-die type of person. I want friendships to last forever.” – KP37:50 – “You have such a balance of brilliant and goof.” – Chelsea43:00 – The pain of friend breakups: self-blame and rumination44:53 – “Don’t look at your chart anymore if it’s making you anxious.” – KP45:48 – Saturn’s role in authentic friendship: “Discarding something to go in the right direction.” – KP Resources Mentioned * Freedom from Your Inner Critic by Jay Early & Bonnie Weiss — referenced in the previous episode * Internal Family Systems (IFS) — used to explore parts around friendship, attachment, and boundaries * Astrological Houses 3, 7, and 11 — as friendship houses representing communication, bonding, and community * Mercury & Venus Archetypes — two modes of friendship connection * Saturn Transits — friendship lessons in endurance and authenticity * Mars Transits — times of conflict or cutting away For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau Connect with Us ✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📺 Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@partsandcharts 📸 Instagram @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack 🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s ever grieved a friendship or found their soul friend through unexpected means. Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.com Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

    1h 10m

  5. 09/23/2025

    16: Part Inner Critic, Part Art Therapy (Pt. 1 of Inner Critic Demo)

    In this sixteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea guides KP through a live demo session exploring protector parts, inner critics, and the surprising imagery that surfaces: bridges, blimps, storms, and kingdoms. This episode marks Part One of an inner critics series, offering listeners an intimate look at how IFS process work unfolds in real time—with pauses, visuals, and artwork. [to watch the video version, head over to Substack or Youtube. For the audio versions, listen through Spotify, Apple podcasts, or your favorite podcast app] Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Time Stamps and Topics: 00:00 – Disclaimer: “We’re not really sure what’s going to happen.”03:02 – Entering the world of inner critics06:16 – Introducing Freedom from Your Inner Critic by Jay Early & Bonnie Weiss08:11 – The seven types of critics: perfectionist, taskmaster, underminer, destroyer, guilt-tripper, inner controller, and molder10:00 – Publishing despite the perfectionist: “We’re hitting publish whether it’s perfect or not.” – KP12:00 – The role of inner critics when putting work into the world15:31 – Bringing in the inner champion or mentor19:02 – Entering KP’s system: bridges, rivers, and blimps22:00 – The blimp appears: “It sucks the fun out of the room.” – KP26:14 – The blimp as surveillance and taskmaster energy29:00 – Introducing themselves: “They really like themselves. Even more than I like my own self.” – KP32:30 – Drawing the blimp as a storm cloud: “Lots of power, lots of electricity… it was beautiful, but dangerous.” – KP36:47 – Naming the part: Remarkable41:09 – The fear of fire and destruction of the kingdom45:04 – Remarkable’s encouragement: “You can expand. You can make your kingdom bigger if you want.”47:00 – An assignment: “We would love for you to focus on your muscles and building your core strength.”52:50 – Drawing the kingdom and the whale-blimp54:00 – The exile vs. protector difference in session55:28 – Feeling more Self-led: “This time, the part trusted me.” – KP Key Quotes: * “I think we’ll see where we’re going, but it might be something we do in part two.” – Chelsea * “Oh, is this inner critic? Probably, yes.” – KP * “It sucks the fun out of the room.” – KP * “It was really beautiful to be in that energy, but it was dangerous.” – KP * “They really like themselves. Even more than I like my own self.” – KP * “We would love for you to focus on your muscles and building your core strength.” – Remarkable (protector part) * “This time it was part of the experience. The part actually trusted me.” – KP Resources Mentioned: * Freedom from Your Inner Critic by Jay Early & Bonnie Weiss — resource with categories of critics, inventories, and practices for self-led work * Internal Family Systems (IFS) framework — key concepts of protector parts, exiles, critics, and self-energy * Art materials — using drawing and creative imagery to explore inner parts * The imagery of “Remarkable” — blimp, storm cloud, whale, protector of a kingdom For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau Connect with Us: ✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack 📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack or DM Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.com Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

    57 min

  6. 09/16/2025

    15: The Virgo Archetype (Pt. 3 of the Zodiac Series)

    In this fifteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea Owens (IFS and Art Therapist) and KP Kaszubowski (Writer, Filmmaker, Astrologer) explore: * the Virgo archetype since we are in Virgo season! * We’re unpacking its brilliance, burdens, and overthinking parts Welcome to Virgo season! 🌿 In this episode of Parts and Charts, Chelsea (therapist) and KP (astrologer) dive deep into the Virgo archetype—its earthy, mutable energy, its gift for discernment, and the shadow side of overthinking. We explore Virgo as the planner, the caretaker, the teacher, and even the vigilant border collie who can’t stop keeping watch. How does this show up in our lives and relationships? And what can we do when those Virgo parts won’t turn off? Chelsea shares IFS practices for calming the inner perfectionist, finding more Self-energy, and letting go of the mental load. KP runs through Virgo in the houses, Venus in Virgo, and clears up some myths about this often-misunderstood sign. ✨ If you’ve ever wrestled with anxiety, hypervigilance, or the pressure to “do it all right,” this episode is for you ✨ Learn how Virgo energy can be both your superpower and your soft place to land. ✨ take away insights that are equal parts astrological wisdom and therapeutic tools. Thanks for reading Parts & Charts! This post is public so feel free to share it. Time stamps and Topics: 0:30 Introduction to the Virgo archetype 2:00 Virgo archetype as the virgin 4:00 The caretaker and daily life as Virgo energy 7:30 Nurse energy and Virgo energy13:15 Virgo as sheepdog and herding the pack19:30 Virgo Venus 25:00 Identifying what is wrong to change 28:00 Virgo using your eyes to see what needs to be figured out32:00 Virgo rising and mercury energy 32:50 Different houses in Virgo energy 47:00 Virgo parts = manager parts 51:30 How we can use Virgo energy for pleasure Key quotes: * "Everyone has Virgo energy in them. It just may show up in different ways and it may not be as apparent as someone who has the Moon in Virgo or something like that." -KP * "Mercury feels celebrated when Mercury's in Virgo, so that's what exalted means." -KP * "Virgo energy is like the super powered mind. And very few people have that ability to run their mind as quickly and as consistently." -KP * "It almost feels like a little bit more of an anxious energy, like in preparation for the worst things happening." -KP * "That, to me, is Virgo energy-the Border Collie who can't rest until all the sheep are safe." -KP * "Virgo parts are, l'm gonna guess, just like really strong managers." -Chelsea * "IFS helps those parts that feel like they can't stop doing their job. When Self is present, they don't have to be so hypervigilant." -Chelsea Parts & Charts is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau Connect with Us: ✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📸 Follow us on Instagram: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a question or note through Substack or DM Work 1:1 with Therapist Chelsea Owens at https://chelseaowenstherapy.com/ and schedule an astrology session with KP Kaszubowski at www.kpkaszu.com Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

    54 min
  7. 14: Staying Self-Led in Eclipse Season

    09/09/2025

    14: Staying Self-Led in Eclipse Season

    In this fourteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea Owens (IFS and Art Therapist) and KP Kaszubowski (Writer, Filmmaker, Astrologer) explore: * What eclipses are—astronomically and astrologically * How eclipse season can feel like chaos, endings, beginnings, and surprise * Ways to stay “self-led” during moments of upheaval and rug-pulls * How different elements (Earth, Fire, Air, Water) might access the 8 C’s of Self This episode takes a closer look at eclipse season, the Virgo–Pisces nodal axis, and how to approach cosmic change without shame or self-blame. Chelsea grounds us in the Internal Family Systems (IFS) principle of Self-energy—reminding us that all parts are welcome, even in chaos—while KP unpacks eclipse cycles, their 18-year return, and how to track them in your own chart. Time stamps and Topics: 0:30 Introduction to eclipse season and self-led energy2:00 What eclipses are (astronomy vs astrology)4:00 Pisces + Virgo eclipses of September 20256:00 Tracking eclipses through houses in your chart7:15 Eclipses as beginnings and endings (North + South Node)10:30 Why eclipses feel eventful and destabilizing13:30 The cycle of Virgo–Pisces eclipses, 2024–202716:20 Houses of resources and trust (2nd + 8th house examples)18:00 Jamie Lee Curtis quote on character and chaos20:00 Lessons vs. self-blame—Saturnical or soulful?23:00 Rug pulls, cosmic frustration, and staying gentle with yourself26:00 The Chariot card: intention vs. rigidity32:00 How Chelsea helps clients access Self-energy during upheaval38:00 Befriending chaos instead of suppressing it40:00 Virgo Sun thought experiment: 3 practices for Earth signs44:00 Elemental prescriptions: Earth, Fire, Air, and Water accessing Self-energy Key quotes: “Eclipse season can be chaotic, can be shifty and turny and all those things. So the best that we can do is to channel our self-energy or to tap into our self, take care of our self.” — Chelsea “Eclipse season is usually globally full of news that has to do with the themes of those zodiac signs. But personally, in our lives, for those two and a half-ish years, we can sense there's either a beginning or an ending—or many beginnings and many endings.” — KP “Eclipse season often looks like shedding, whether you want to or not—a part of your life or an identity or something. And it can also look like something brand new shows up in your life.” — KP “It doesn't feel good to be in chaos. But also, like, there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with that energy. It's totally okay. It's not going to overwhelm the system. All of it's welcome.” — Chelsea “If I keep thinking that these rug pulls are because of my bad character or my bad choices, I will go insane.” — KP “It's not a moral judgment on your soul, but it's more of like a moment to practice—like, practice being better at handling chaos, better at handling stress.” — Chelsea “Self can handle all of it. Self can sit with all of these big emotions and hear them out.” — Chelsea “How can Earth energy get curious? If you need to put yourself in physical places like the beach or a hot tub or a quiet room, how can you just access more curiosity?” — Chelsea “Listening to truly inspirational speeches—like James Baldwin, or that Denzel Washington commencement speech—that might be fire energy. Always listening to inspirational anythings feels like a good entry point to more self-energy.” — KP Resources Mentioned: * Internal Family Systems (IFS) — especially the principle of Self-energy and the 8 C’s (Calmness, Curiosity, Clarity, Compassion, Confidence, Courage, Creativity, Connectedness) * Astrological Nodes + Eclipse Cycles — 18-year return of eclipse patterns * Tarot: The Chariot card — guidance for facing change with intention * Jamie Lee Curtis said in an interview that “every single thing in her life, whether good or bad, has hinged upon a ‘couple of second [she] didn’t see coming.’” She is referencing this quote that comes from Marisha Pessl's novel, Special Topics in Calamity Physics: "Life hinges on a couple seconds you never see coming. And what you decide in those few seconds determines everything from then on... And you have no idea what you'll do until you're there". * Elemental “prescriptions” for accessing Self-energy We’ve officially entered eclipse season: from now until the end of September, the energy may feel a bit wobbly. Personally. Globally. We’re aware of the forced famine on the Palestinian people in Gaza. There is so little we’re able to do right now, especially with most of the humanitarian aid being blocked by the IDF. But, World Central Kitchen has been able to serve bread and water still, despite the blockages. In times of destabilization, eclipse season or not, one thing we can do is give generously to others experiencing displacement and persecution. For all of September, I (KP) am offering free birth chart readings to anyone who donates $50+ to World Central Kitchen. Shoot me a DM with a screenshot of your donation receipt and I’ll share a direct booking link. For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau Connect with Us: ✨ Subscribe to Parts & Charts on Substack📺 Watch on YouTube 📸 Follow on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a note, question, or love letter via Substack 🎧 Share this episode with someone who’s bracing for change, or wants to reframe chaos as an invitation to Self: Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

    58 min
  8. 13: Astro-Therapy and Lilith Energy with Lisa Broggi

    09/02/2025

    13: Astro-Therapy and Lilith Energy with Lisa Broggi

    Before we get to the show notes of the first ever guest episode with astrotherapist Lisa Broggi, here are a couple quick announcements: * On September 5, 2025 (Friday!) at 1pm PT, Chelsea is leading a free live Q+A for anyone considering becoming a therapist. Let her save you precious time and money on this long (and worth it!) journey. REGISTER for the call here — the recording will be sent out for those not able to attend live. * For those applying to grad programs in counseling: Chelsea Owens pulled together a deeeeeep dive into all the practical elements of this decision, for the price of a cute cafe lunch ($25) — follow this link: https://chelseawow.gumroad.com/l/bfbiau In this thirteenth episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP welcome their very first guest: astrologer, therapist, and teacher Lisa Broggi of Pink Moon Therapy. Together they dive into “astrotherapy”—how astrology and therapy can meet in the consulting room—and explore the provocative, powerful archetype of Lilith. Therapist and astro-coach Lisa Broggi shares stories from her practice weaving charts with clients’ inner worlds, while Chelsea reflects on the overlaps with IFS and the therapeutic process. KP brings her own curiosity about Lilith as a figure of exile, rawness, and refusal—and how that energy can show up in both astrology and therapy. They talk about how Lilith resists being tamed, why it’s important to make space for the “unacceptable” parts of ourselves, and what happens when clients bring their own astrological knowledge into sessions. Along the way, the three laugh about language, lineage, and what it means to belong (or not belong) in therapeutic spaces. This one’s for the part of you that wants to connect your chart to your healing work, the part that’s curious about Lilith’s wild edge, and the part that just loves hearing smart, soulful people in conversation. Key Quotes: "Learning about my chart, especially in my 12th house, was like the deepest validation I've ever experienced in my life." — Lisa Broggi "I have a theory that when people learn that they have 12th house placements there's like this period almost of like... ‘oh I'm doomed’... but ultimately it does bring you in because it's this deep interest.” — Lisa Broggi "You can't just tell clients, ‘this is what's going on with you.’ They have to come to that themselves." — Lisa Broggi "The art of translating to somebody who doesn't know is big." — Lisa Broggi “My goal in my mind is to help them heal any shame wounds or fear or even rage." — Lisa Broggi "I think my Pisces in the 10th was like so scared to be seen in my witchiness and my like nonlinear approach." — Lisa Broggi "The difference between a conscious Lilith and an unconscious Lilith is like night and day... because she can wreak havoc she can do damage... if you're not conscious of this energy, she can be a real problem." — Lisa Broggi Timestamps & Key Topics: 00:00 – Welcome + PSAs about mini course, Q&A, and Self-Led September 01:10 – Introducing first guest Lisa Broggi, friend, astro-coach, and fellow therapist 03:44 – Lisa's background: therapy first, then Saturn return astrology awakening 05:14 – The 12th house stellium revelation and deep validation experience 08:00 – 12th house energy in therapists and healing work 12:13 – Introduction to Black Moon Lilith: myth, archetype, and shadow work 16:15 – Lilith myth: Adam, equality, exile, and demonization 18:04 – Different types of Lilith (Black Moon vs Asteroid) and eclipse experiences 24:38 – How Lisa works with Lilith energy in therapy sessions 30:51 – Astrotherapy practice: attracting clients who already want the integration 34:19 – Using transits as containers for difficult experiences (Uranus example) 38:03 – KP's current Saturn-Neptune opposition and not personalizing struggles 42:25 – Looking back at transits to understand planetary energies 46:31 – Mercury and Saturn as therapist planets, chart ruler discussions 49:17 – Moon placements and sensitivity (12th house vs 7th house examples) 54:36 – "Prescriptive astrology" - matching self-care to big three placements 55:40 – Couples work possibilities and focusing on Moon/Venus/Mercury 59:57 – Integrating IFS parts work with planetary placements 1:04:41 – Sand tray work, tarot, and working with archetypes online 1:05:58 – Where to find Lisa's work (TikTok: @the.lilith.therapist) 1:07:19 – Closing thank you and contact information Resources mentioned: * Lisa Broggi’s website and teaching offerings * The Lilith Therapist TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.lilith.therapist * Lisa’s website: https://www.pinkmoontherapy.com/ * Find Your Lilith Tutorial: * Internal Family Systems Institute: ifs-institute.com * Astrology references: Lilith in the natal chart * Works on astrotherapy (Lisa’s recommended readings) We’ve officially entered eclipse season: from now until the end of September, the energy may feel a bit wobbly. Personally. Globally. We’re aware of the forced famine on the Palestinian people in Gaza. There is so little we’re able to do right now, especially with most of the humanitarian aid being blocked by the IDF. But, World Central Kitchen has been able to serve bread and water still, despite the blockages. In times of destabilization, eclipse season or not, one thing we can do is give generously to others experiencing displacement and persecution. For all of September, I (KP) am offering free birth chart readings to anyone who donates $50+ to World Central Kitchen. Shoot me a DM with a screenshot of your donation receipt and I’ll share a direct booking link. Connect with Us: ✨ Subscribe to us on Substack 📸 Follow on IG: @PartsAndCharts💌 Send a note, question, or love letter via Substack 🎧 Share this episode with someone who is ready to claim their Lilith power: Credits: Music “Vape Juice Dave’s Bistro” composed by Scott Cary (Wild Western Avenue) for the feature film RINGOLEVIO (2020) directed by KP Kaszubowski - performed by Scott Cary, Max Wikoff, Else Albeck Gasparka, and Sarah Luther The cover image is a collage by Chelsea Owens. Get full access to Parts & Charts at partsandcharts.substack.com/subscribe

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