Management Muse

Cindi Baldi and Geoffrey Tumlin

Management Muse is a leadership and management podcast for professionals who want to improve communication, increase employee engagement, and build high-performing teams. Hosts Cindi Baldi and Geoffrey Tumlin draw from organizational science, management research, and decades of experience to deliver actionable insights that improve workplace performance. Topics include leadership development, team dynamics, performance management, workplace culture, change leadership, and strategic communication. Whether you’re leading a team or working within one, Management Muse helps you strengthen your skills and drive meaningful results.

  1. 1D AGO

    Ep 97 - Holding Employees Accountable Without Being the Bad Guy

    There are far fewer micromanagers than you might think. In this episode of Management Muse, Cindi and Geoff challenge one of the most persistent myths in leadership: that holding people accountable makes you controlling. Drawing on classic leadership and expertise research, they share a simple framework that explains why most managers pull back long before they should. Using their own pizza-making adventures as a running example, Cindi and Geoff explore how people develop competence in a role, and how managers should behave at each stage to support them. They discuss the hidden danger of ‘aloof’ management, and why generational complaints often miss the real issue. Part 1 of a two-part series on how holding people accountable without being the villain. Tune in next week for Part 2! Episode Highlights: The job progression model to calibrate your leadership style How to determine the bounds of micromanagement Why on-the-job-training is costing you The importance of feedback and when to give it Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/KHdhHi0Rw00 *Get your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook: 14 Strategies for Work Success in a Chaotic World here.  → Use code PLAYBOOK20 for 20% off. *Get Science-Backed Insights and Exclusive Perks Straight to Your Inbox: Sign up for our newsletter and our FREE guide to the 6 Habits You NEED to Level Up Your Management Skills in 2026! Want to Go Deeper? Check Out Our Recommended Reading: EBSCO, “Situational leadership theory,” https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/social-sciences-and-humanities/situational-leadership-theory Penney, CA. “Are You a Micromanager or Too Hands-Off?” Harvard Business Review, 2 Aug. 2024, https://hbr.org/2024/08/are-you-a-micromanager-or-too-hands-off  Ericsson, K. A., Krampe, R. T., & Tesch-Römer, C. “The role of deliberate practice in the acquisition of expert performance,” Psychological Review, 1993, 100(3), 363–406. https://doi.org/10.1037/0033-295X.100.3.363 Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    28 min
  2. FEB 17

    Ep 96 - Uncertainty Is Not the Problem. Your Response Is.

    When the future gets blurry, people start making bad decisions. In this episode of Management Muse, Cindi Baldi and Geoffrey Tumlin explore uncertainty from every angle: not just how leaders respond to it, but how they create it, how organizations amplify it, and how individuals shrink themselves because of it. From miscalibrated risk assessments to communication breakdowns, they unpack how ambiguity distorts decision making at every level. You will hear why leaders often overreact to potential threats, how silence can unintentionally signal danger, and why high performers sometimes hold themselves back when outcomes feel unclear. Cindi and Geoff share practical ways managers can stabilize teams, communicate more effectively, and think more clearly when the future feels unsettled. If you lead people, manage change, or simply want to stop playing small when things feel unclear, this episode will help you learn how to make uncertainty work for you. Episode Highlights: The hidden cost of fear-driven decision making Why we overestimate risks and underestimate opportunities A framework for calibrating your risk assessment skills Why organizations overcorrect in the face of uncertainty How to fix communication breakdowns during periods of change What managers can do to create steadiness Want to Go Deeper?  Get your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook: 14 Strategies for Work Success in a Chaotic World here.  → Use code PLAYBOOK20 for 20% off. Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wwHYN3edVqk  Get Science-Backed Insights and Exclusive Perks Straight to Your Inbox: Sign up for our newsletter and our FREE guide to the 6 Habits You NEED to Level Up Your Management Skills in 2026! Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    37 min
  3. FEB 10

    Ep 95 - Why 60% of Employees Would Fire Their Boss (and What Great Leaders Do Instead)

    If your employees could fire you… would they? This week Cindi is joined by author and CEO Dr. Keith Levick to discuss research that reveals 60% of employees would fire their boss if they could—and even more disturbingly, many would sacrifice salary, vacation, or promotions to make it happen. Why? Because too many workplaces lack psychological safety, flexibility, and real ownership. The good news? Keith lays out how leaders can reverse this pattern by developing social and emotional intelligence. He breaks down the difference between the two, and offers a clear roadmap for reading the room, building trust, and leading with more awareness and empathy. This episode is a must-listen for any manager brave enough to ask: Would my team keep me if they had the choice? Episode Highlights: What employees wish their boss understood Why leadership failure is usually interpersonal, not technical Emotional intelligence vs. social intelligence (and why both matter) Easy steps to developing self awareness The importance of empathy and flexibility  About Dr. Keith Levick: Keith Levick, PhD, or “Dr. Keith,” as many of his clients refer to him, holds a Master of Social Work and a Doctorate in Counseling from Detroit’s Wayne State University and has worked with large, medium, and small companies and corporations. Dr. Keith is the CEO of Goren and Associates, a professional development, executive coaching, and consulting firm in Farmington Hills, Michigan. He has spent many years in clinical practice as a psychologist and has since transitioned his clinical expertise into organizational psychology and business. Keith is an adjunct professor at Wayne State University and Lawrence Technological University. * Purchase Keith’s book, The Insightful Leader: Discover Your Blind Spots Through the Eyes of Employees * Connect with Keith: Linkedin | Insightful Leaders | Goren & Associates Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/6HvROyp9h6E *Purchase your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook here *Sign up for our newsletter and our FREE guide to the 6 science-backed habits you NEED to level up your management skills in 2026! Want to Go Deeper? Check Out Our Recommended Reading: Kahneman, Daniel. Thinking, Fast and Slow, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2013, https://a.co/d/0gsQLnWO  Goleman, Daniel. Social Intelligence: The New Science of Human Relationships, Bantam, 2007, https://a.co/d/05ArEUkA  Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    44 min
  4. FEB 3

    Ep 94 - Take Command of Your Habits in 2026

    Habits aren’t just about willpower. In this episode of Management Muse, Cindi and Geoff uncover a radical insight from behavioral science: most habits are powered by underlying anxiety. Willpower alone isn’t enough, because habits aren’t just actions, they’re emotional coping strategies. From sleep routines to workplace distractions, Cindi and Geoff break down the surprising psychology of habits and offer practical ways to make real change stick. You’ll learn why starting small creates large payoffs, how to time your habit launches for success, and what it means to replace—not just remove—habitual behaviors. Whether you're trying to lead better, live healthier, or stop doomscrolling before bed, this episode gives you a fresh framework for transforming habits with more clarity and control. Episode Highlights: The anxiety-habit connection Why willpower alone sets you up to fail The Fresh Start Effect How starting smaller can lead to bigger wins The trick to breaking bad habits A gut-check for your organization Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3xjk1xc55Ds *Purchase your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook here *Sign up for our newsletter and our FREE guide to the 6 science-backed habits you NEED to level up your management skills in 2026! Want to Go Deeper? Check Out Our Recommended Reading: Brewer, Judson. Unwinding Anxiety, Avery, 2022. https://a.co/d/7pjMANH  Dai, H., Milkman, K.L, and Riis, J. “The Fresh Start Effect: Temporal Landmarks Motivate Aspirational Behavior,” Management Science, 2014, 60(10), 2563-2582. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2204126&  Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    30 min
  5. JAN 26

    Ep 93 - The New Rules of Customer Service: Making Work Better for Customers and Frontline Teams

    Endless hold music. Clunky bots. Repeating your story five times. We’ve all been there. But what if customer service didn’t have to feel like a test of patience? In this episode of Management Muse, Cindi Baldi talks with Rick DeLisi, author and lead research analyst at Glia, about the new frontline of support: AI-enhanced service that puts results over sympathies. Rick shares how smart systems now handle simple requests, route complex issues with full context, and tee up human reps to actually solve problems instead of just soothing frustration. Not only is the experience better for customers, it also makes frontline jobs more interesting, more humane, and a whole lot less stressful. Whether you're designing customer experiences or just tired of bad ones, this episode offers a look into a more efficient, effortless future. Episode Highlights: Why human reps and phone support aren’t going anywhere A new definition of empathy in support roles The one metric that actually predicts customer loyalty How new centralized systems create seamless customer experiences The impact of AI on employee experience and retention About Rick DeLisi: Rick DeLisi is a leading voice in customer experience strategy and the co-author of two influential books: The Effortless Experience and Digital Customer Service. As Lead Research Analyst at Glia, Rick brings over two decades of expertise in the psychology of customer interactions and their impact on loyalty. A former Gartner VP and award-winning journalist, his insights have shaped how companies worldwide train service teams, measure success, and adapt to the digital-first landscape. His work has been featured in Harvard Business Review, and he’s delivered keynotes in more than 25 countries. Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XKIMyY4G8Ho  *Purchase your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook here *Sign up for our newsletter and our FREE guide to the 6 science-backed habits you NEED to level up your management skills in 2026! Want to Go Deeper? Check Out Our Recommended Reading: DeLisi, R, Dixon, M, and Ponomareff, L. “Kick-Ass Customer Service,” Harvard Business Review, Jan-Feb. 2017, https://hbr.org/2017/01/kick-ass-customer-service  Rose, Todd. The End of Average: How We Succeed in a World That Values Sameness, HarperOne, 19 Jan. 2016, https://www.amazon.com/End-Average-Succeed-Values-Sameness/dp/0062358367  Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    50 min
  6. JAN 20

    Ep 92 - Burnout Red Flags in Your Best People

    They never complained. They always delivered. And then one day, they were just… gone. Burnout rarely announces itself, but there are early warning signs. In this episode of Management Muse, Cindi Baldi and Geoffrey Tumlin explain the three stages of burnout and why your most committed, high-performing employees are the most at risk. Instead of asking, “Are you burned out?” leaders need sharper tools and a better understanding of what burnout really looks like. Cindi and Geoff unpack the subtle signs and explore the cultural practices that cause them. They dig into the dangers of being perpetually “on,” the harm of poorly designed PTO policies, and the myth that key players can’t step away without everything falling apart. If you manage high performers, this episode’s essential. Episode Highlights: The three stages of burnout Why passion drives people toward burnout Smarter ways to spot burnout before it’s too late Organizational traps that fuel burnout The psychological toll of always being “on call” How to protect your most committed employees without lowering expectations Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/e9a1vLG0CIQ *Purchase your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook here *Sign up for our newsletter and our FREE guide to the 6 science-backed habits you NEED to level up your management skills in 2026! Want to Go Deeper? Check Out Our Recommended Reading: Valsania et al. “Burnout: A Review of Theory and Measurement,” Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health 3 Feb. 2022, 19(3), 1780; https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph19031780 Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    41 min
  7. JAN 13

    Ep 91 - Delegation Without Detonation: How to Preserve Your Sanity AND Develop Your Team

    What if delegation wasn’t just a way to get work off your plate, but a strategy to grow your people, your impact, and your sanity? This week, Cindi welcomes Mamie Kanfer Stewart, host of The Modern Manager, for a masterclass in smart delegation. Whether you’re struggling to let go, tired of redoing half-done tasks, or just don’t know what to hand off, Mamie offers a path forward. She shares a practical framework for tailoring delegation to the situation, aligning handoffs with career growth, and creating feedback loops that build trust, not stress. If you’ve ever thought “it’s easier to just do it myself,” this one’s for you… and don’t miss Cindi’s guest appearance on The Modern Manager this week either! Episode Highlights: How to delegate in a way that actually saves you time When delegation goes wrong, and how to fix it The 5 levels of delegation and when to use each How to use delegation to develop your team and boost productivity The link between trust, autonomy, and performance About Mamie: Mamie Kanfer Stewart is passionate about helping people thrive at work. She is the host of The Modern Manager podcast, author of Momentum: Creating Effective, Engaging and Enjoyable Meetings and Founder of Meeteor, a training firm focused on productive meetings and team collaboration. In addition, Mamie is an executive coach and trainer who works with entrepreneurs and managers to build the mindset, skills and habits they need to successfully manage themselves and their teams so everyone can be their best selves and do their best work. Connect with Mamie: LinkedIn YouTube Instagram MamieKS TikTok Facebook Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/i_7yv0wYmhI *Purchase your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook here *Sign up for our newsletter and our FREE guide to the 6 science-backed habits you NEED to level up your management skills in 2026! Want to Go Deeper? Check Out Our Recommended Reading: Johnson, Elsbeth. “Why Aren’t I Better at Delegating?”, Sep-Oct. 2025, https://hbr.org/2025/09/why-arent-i-better-at-delegating  Kanfer Stewart, Mamie. “Prepare Your Mind to Delegate Successfully,” MamieKS, 2 Dec. 2019. https://www.mamieks.com/post/prepare-your-mind-to-delegate-successfully  Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    51 min
  8. JAN 6

    Ep 90 - The Founder Effect: How Leaders Leave a Cultural Mark

    What happens when the founder’s personality becomes the company’s culture?  In this episode of Management Muse, Cindi Baldi and Geoffrey Tumlin explore the phenomenon of founder imprint: the lasting, often invisible fingerprints that founders leave on an organization’s values, behaviors, and decisions. This episode complements our recent discussion on weak organizational cultures by diving into the special case of start-ups, which often have strong, founder-driven cultures. From Chick-fil-A’s Sundays off to Herb Kelleher’s wild-but-warm ethos at Southwest, Cindi and Geoff walk through iconic examples of founder imprint, and contrast them with stories from their own experience building a small business together. You’ll learn how early team choices, value signaling, and founder preferences can shape a company’s identity long after the original leader has left the building. Tune in to hear how founder-led cultures can be both a strength and a stumbling block as organizations scale. Episode Highlights: Why founder values “imprint” early and persist over time The surprising science behind why teams end up so similar When founder-led cultures work, and when they get in the way How cultural self-governance can be a gift or a trap What Cindi and Geoff learned from building their own firm Watch This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/xIcIyDg_rK0 *Purchase your copy of The Uncertainty Playbook here *Get a Comprehensive Organizational Assessment with CulSure *Sign up for our newsletter and let us know what topic you’d like to hear next! Want to Go Deeper? Check Out Our Recommended Reading: Zook, Chris. “Founder-Led Companies Outperform the Rest – Here’s Why,” Harvard Business Review, 24 Mar. 2016. https://hbr.org/2016/03/founder-led-companies-outperform-the-rest-heres-why  Gutterman, Alan S. “Founders and Organizational Culture”, Oct. 2023, https://www.researchgate.net/publication/374695659_Founders_and_Organizational_Culture  Join Our Community & Follow Us:  - Youtube Channel  - LinkedIn - Instagram -Facebook -TikTok - Website

    34 min

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Management Muse is a leadership and management podcast for professionals who want to improve communication, increase employee engagement, and build high-performing teams. Hosts Cindi Baldi and Geoffrey Tumlin draw from organizational science, management research, and decades of experience to deliver actionable insights that improve workplace performance. Topics include leadership development, team dynamics, performance management, workplace culture, change leadership, and strategic communication. Whether you’re leading a team or working within one, Management Muse helps you strengthen your skills and drive meaningful results.