The Midlife Chrysalis

Chip Conley

The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.

  1. 1d ago

    Why Life Can Get Harder and Happier After 50 | Jonathan Rauch

    Jonathan Rauch had reached the top of his career, yet each year he felt less satisfied. Then came the loss of his parents, his job, and a startup he had tried to build. To his surprise, his sense of contentment began to grow. Rauch is a journalist and the author of The Happiness Curve, The Constitution of Knowledge, and Cross Purposes. He joins Chip Conley to explore what his personal experience and research reveal about getting older, and why the future looks more troubling for younger adults. In this conversation: Why achievement does not always bring the happiness we expectWhy life satisfaction often rises after 50, even through setbacksWhy young adults’ loss of hope concerns RauchWhy free speech alone is not enough to establish what is trueHow wisdom helps us navigate conflict, and why it can be taught Watch for an honest, thought-provoking conversation about happiness, truth, and the value of staying curious throughout life. Timestamps: 03:49 Seeing what others miss06:59 The midlife happiness curve10:31 Why life can get better after 5012:21 Why young adults are losing hope15:49 How society knows what is true20:57 Wisdom in an age of disinformation24:53 Advice for the next generation26:34 Staying curious as we age Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #JonathanRauch #ChipConley #TheHappinessCurve #HappinessAfter50 #MidlifeHappiness #AgingWell #LifeSatisfaction #YoungAdultHappiness #Wisdom #Truth #Disinformation #ConstitutionOfKnowledge #ModernElder #MidlifeWisdom #Curiosity

  2. 3d ago

    The Hardest Leadership Lesson: Let Someone Else Be the Hero

    Being the person who saves the day feels good. But letting someone else do it can make you a better leader. MEA founder Chip Conley joins Derek Gehl to talk about one of the hardest changes in his career: moving from hero to coach. Chip shares how he is learning to step back, trust his team, and make room for others to lead. Why having all the answers can hold your team backHow asking questions helps others grow into leadersWhy purpose matters as an organization gets biggerHow to build something that can thrive without youWhat leadership can become in your next chapter Watch the full episode to hear Chip’s candid take on letting go and leading with greater wisdom. Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (02:30) From Hero to Coach (04:39) Bill George and Purpose Driven Leadership (07:40) Learning to Lead Together (10:06) Servant Leadership (11:20) Finding Meaning in Work (12:31) Leadership as a Practice (14:19) Building Culture Across an Organization (16:09) Building an Organization That Thrives Without You (18:25) Your Next Chapter of Leadership (22:48) The Bill George Workshop (25:17) A Leadership Experiment Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ Listen to the podcast episode with Bill George, CEO of Medtronic: https://youtu.be/M9PuSyubTB0 #ChipConley #Leadership #LeadershipDevelopment #WiseLeadership #MidlifeLeadership #ServantLeadership #FounderLeadership #LeadershipCoaching #Mentorship #PurposeDrivenLeadership #OrganizationalCulture #BillGeorge #ModernElder #WisdomWednesdays #TeamLeadership

  3. 5d ago

    What Changes When You Finally Let Go of Control? | Thomas DeLong

    Success can look impressive on a résumé and still leave you wondering who you really are. At 76, Harvard Business School professor and former Morgan Stanley executive Thomas DeLong is rethinking some of the biggest lessons he has learned about leadership, courage, relationships, and success. In this conversation with Chip Conley, he reflects on: Why letting go of control can deepen relationshipsHow to move from image management to essenceWhy vulnerability is a powerful form of courageHow inherited success scripts can define the path we followWhy later life is about investing wisdom, not just retiring From family and leadership to identity and aging, DeLong shares the hard-earned lessons that have changed how he sees himself and the people around him. Watch now for a deeply personal conversation about letting go, finding courage, and defining success on your own terms. Timestamps: (02:40) Letting Go of Control (04:31) Building Closer Relationships (07:20) Vulnerability With His Daughters (09:35) Courage and Self-Doubt (13:00) Courageous Life Decisions (16:45) From Image to Essence (20:44) Changing Leadership at Morgan Stanley (23:38) The Parable of the Sadhu (26:04) Measuring a Meaningful Life (30:58) Investing Wisdom in the Next Decade (34:00) Sing Loudly and in Harmony (36:10) Breaking Free From the Success Script (38:36) A New Definition of Success Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ Watch Chip’s Soul Biography, created by filmmaker Nic Askew: MEAWisdom.com/Soul #ThomasDeLong #ChipConley #MidlifeChrysalis #HarvardBusinessSchool #Leadership #RedefiningSuccess #PersonalGrowth #SelfAcceptance #Vulnerability #Courage #LettingGo #MidlifeWisdom #AuthenticLeadership #LifeLessons #HealthyAging

  4. Sep 25

    Let Life Lead: A Different Way to Navigate Midlife | Nic Askew

    Sometimes the most powerful way forward begins by doing less. Filmmaker Nic Askew has spent more than two decades capturing what happens when people stop performing and simply allow themselves to be seen. Through his Soul Biographies, he has discovered a different way of approaching connection, identity, and life itself. In this episode, Nic explores: Why “starting with nothing” can reveal what effort cannotHow stillness creates space for the soul rather than the ego to leadWhy doing less can help us truly see and connect with othersHow letting go of control can reveal what comes next in lifeIt’s a fascinating conversation about soul, human connection, and learning to let life lead. Watch the full episode and discover the power of starting with nothing.  Timestamps: (03:24) Discovering Filmmaking at Midlife (04:18) Picking Up a Camera (08:54) A Calling Out of Nowhere (12:14) Starting With Nothing (16:53) The Soul Biographies (17:32) Speaking From Ego vs. Soul (19:17) Letting Life Lead (23:48) Stillness Before Action (28:13) Truly Seeing Others (31:07) Deepening Connection (37:34) Filming the MEA Community (42:13) Seeing Beyond the Persona (46:51) Nic’s Life Wisdom  The Soul of MEA, the link is: MEAWisdom.com/Soul Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #NicAskew⁠ ⁠#SoulBiographies⁠ ⁠#Midlife⁠ ⁠#MidlifeTransformation⁠ ⁠#PersonalGrowth⁠ ⁠#SelfDiscovery⁠ ⁠#AuthenticLiving⁠ ⁠#LifePurpose⁠ ⁠#HumanConnection⁠ ⁠#Stillness⁠ ⁠#SoulWork⁠ ⁠#MidlifeWisdom⁠ ⁠#LetLifeLead⁠ ⁠#Presence⁠ ⁠#MEA

  5. Sep 23

    Be Useful, Not Youthful: The Secret to Aging Well

    At some point in midlife, achievement stops being enough. The titles matter less, the phone may stop ringing, and the question becomes: where does your value come from now? In this episode of Wisdom Wednesday, MEA founder Chip Conley joins Derek Gehl to explore the shift from achievement and admiration toward generativity, usefulness, and helping others grow. Key insights include: Why feeling invisible doesn’t mean becoming irrelevantHow to move from “sage on the stage” to “guide on the side”Why being useful matters more than staying youthfulHow becoming “good soil” helps other people and future generations flourishWhy doing good without getting credit can be one of the most meaningful forms of contribution Watch the full episode to discover a different way to think about purpose, relevance, and growing older. Timestamps: (00:00) Welcome to Wisdom Wednesday (00:41) The Sacred Pause (03:48) Becoming Good Soil (05:43) Regenerating Soil and Soul (07:55) Shifting Roles in Midlife (08:30) From Sage to Guide (10:21) Generativity vs. Stagnation (13:47) Staying Generative After Retirement (15:20) Feeling Invisible in Midlife (15:59) What You Have to Offer (18:55) Be Useful, Not Youthful (19:15) Finding a New Role (21:19) Crystallized Intelligence (22:26) Give Without Getting Credit (23:55) Letting Others Grow (25:12) Quiet Generosity Check out Chip's Celebrating Life's Wisdom Oct 25-29 2026 workshop: https://www.meawisdom.com/celebrate Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #ChipConley #MidlifeChrysalis #ModernElderAcademy #WisdomWednesday #Generativity #MidlifePurpose #LifeAfter50 #AgingWell #MidlifeWisdom #CrystallizedIntelligence #PurposeAfter50 #Mentorship #MidlifeTransition #SacredPause #GoodSoil

  6. Sep 21

    Can Your Beliefs Actually Change How You Age? | Shawn Achor

    We’re taught to expect decline as we get older. But the science tells a far more hopeful story. In this episode, bestselling author and positive psychology expert Shawn Achor joins us to explore how our beliefs can shape the way we age. Drawing from his new book, The Power of Beliefs, groundbreaking research, and his own midlife experience, Shawn reveals why getting older can bring new opportunities for growth, meaning, happiness, and wisdom. You’ll discover: How beliefs about aging can influence our physical and cognitive outcomesWhy midlife doesn’t have to mark the beginning of declineHow negative expectations can become powerful nocebo effectsWhy life can become more meaningful even as our priorities changeHow “neuroscaping” can reshape the stories we tell about our lives From stepping away from career success to rediscovering what truly matters, Shawn offers a compelling new perspective on aging and the potential that remains ahead. Watch now to discover why your beliefs about getting older may matter more than you think. Timestamps: (03:04) Finding Joy and Wonder in Family Life (04:54) Rethinking Potential in Midlife (09:07) How Fatherhood Changed His Priorities (12:47) Feeling Replaced and Rediscovering Meaning (15:20) How Divinity School Reshaped His Faith (20:16) The Power of Beliefs (24:18) The Nocebo Effect (25:38) How Beliefs About Aging Shape Outcomes (29:09) Optimism and the U-Curve of Happiness (34:11) Why Meaning Can Grow With Age (38:51) Neuroscaping Your Memories (45:59) Turning Possibility Into Reality (47:21) Why Happiness Leads to Success (50:58) Growing Wiser With Age Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #ShawnAchor #PositivePsychology #PowerOfBeliefs #Midlife #HealthyAging #PsychologyOfAging #Happiness #Mindset #AgingWell #PersonalGrowth #MeaningAndPurpose #Optimism #Neuroscaping #MidlifeGrowth #SuccessfulAging

  7. Sep 18

    He Spent 10 Years Filming the World’s Oldest People | Sam Green

    What can the world’s oldest people teach us about time, aging, and being alive? Academy Award nominated filmmaker Sam Green spent 10 years filming people who held the title of the world’s oldest living person. His documentary The Oldest Person in the World began as a curiosity but became a deeply personal exploration of mortality, connection, and how we use the time we have. In this episode, Sam shares: What life really looks like at 115 and what seems to matter mostThe surprising traits he noticed among the world’s oldest peopleHow a serious illness transformed his own relationship with timeWhy accepting life’s uncertainty can change how we liveHis advice for staying connected, creative, and engaged as we age This conversation isn’t about defeating aging. It’s about paying attention to the life you have while you have it. Watch now for a fascinating perspective on longevity, mortality, and what makes a life meaningful. Timestamps: (05:13) The Oldest Person in the World (08:14) Longevity vs. Mortality (10:21) What Centenarians Have in Common (13:20) What Life Is Like at 115 (15:12) Meeting the World’s Oldest People (17:49) What Helps Us Live Longer (19:36) A Life-Changing Diagnosis (23:22) The Film Distribution Challenge (28:02) Making a Living in Documentary Film (30:19) Becoming a Filmmaker (32:33) Advice for Aspiring Filmmakers (36:01) Favorite Documentaries (38:07) Would You Live to 115? (39:50) The Origins of MEA (42:14) Make Younger Friends Check out Chip's Celebrating Life's Wisdom Oct 25-29 2026 workshop: ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/celebrate Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #SamGreen #TheOldestPersonInTheWorld #Longevity #Aging #HealthyAging #Mortality #LivingTo115 #DocumentaryFilm #DocumentaryFilmmaking #Midlife #LifeLessons #MeaningfulLife #SundanceFilmFestival #Wisdom #MEA

  8. Sep 16

    Why Birthdays Matter More as We Get Older

    Why do we celebrate birthdays as kids, then slowly stop celebrating ourselves as we get older? In this episode of The Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley joins Derek Gehl for a conversation about birthdays, aging, and why life’s milestones deserve more attention, not less. After decades of marking his own milestone birthdays in memorable ways, Chip shares why celebration has become even more meaningful as he’s grown older and faced his own mortality. Key insights from the episode: Birthdays are more than a number. They can become rituals that help us recognize where we’ve been and who we’re becoming.Turning 50 deserves to be celebrated. Midlife is a major transition and an opportunity to consciously mark a new chapter.Celebration doesn’t have to mean being the center of attention. It can be an experience shared with the people who matter most.One of the gifts of aging is wisdom. Instead of focusing only on getting older, we can recognize everything we’ve learned along the way.Life gives us more reasons to celebrate than we notice. Careers, relationships, transitions, achievements, and even unexpected milestones can all be worth honoring. Tune in for a refreshing conversation about aging, wisdom, and why celebrating life may matter more than ever as we get older. Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:25) Celebrating Life Through Milestone Birthdays (05:10) Why We Stop Celebrating as We Age (07:17) Why Turning 50 Deserves a Ritual (09:11) Resistance to Celebrating Yourself (10:26) Reframing Birthdays as Celebrations of Life (12:14) Why Adults Stop Celebrating Birthdays (15:11) Making Your Birthday a Gift to Others (15:54) Celebrating the Wisdom That Comes With Age (18:43) What Else Should We Celebrate? (19:41) Experiment of the Week Check out Chip's Celebrating Life's Wisdom Oct 25-29 2026 workshop: https://www.meawisdom.com/celebrate Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #ChipConley #WisdomWednesday #MidlifeWisdom #CelebrateLife #CelebratingAging #MilestoneBirthday #Turning50 #LifeAfter50 #MidlifeMilestones #PositiveAging #WisdomAndAging #BirthdayCelebration #MidlifeTransition #RitesOfPassage #AgingWithPurpose

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The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.

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