The MindSpa Podcast

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The MindSpa Podcast is your go-to space for meaningful conversations around mental health, healing, and personal growth. Hosted by Michelle Massunken RSW and Tina Wilston RP, co-founders of MindSpa Mental Health Centre, each episode explores key mental health topics through expert interviews and thoughtful roundtable discussions. From managing stress and building stronger relationships to navigating invisible challenges, the MindSpa Podcast offers grounded, professional insights in a warm and accessible way. Tune in weekly for supportive, real-world conversations to help you feel seen, supported, and empowered on your wellness journey.

  1. 22h ago ·  Video

    S2 · Ep 35: AI Is Not Your Therapist — Validation, Echo Chambers, And Real Connection | Tina Wilston & Michelle Massunken | The MindSpa Podcast

    AI can sound like the most understanding voice in your life, and that's exactly why it's worth a closer look. In this episode of The MindSpa Podcast, Tina Wilston and Michelle Massunken talk about what happens when people turn to chatbots like ChatGPT for emotional support, and why it's so easy to mistake validation for accuracy. In this episode: The good side of AI: putting feelings into words, building a plan, and taking action between therapy sessionsWhy AI can feel safer than people, and how echo chambers formDepression, social anxiety, and isolation: how AI companionship can ease discomfort just enough to keep someone stuckAI companions, relationships, and how one-sided prompts can lead to extreme adviceUsing AI more wisely: asking it to argue against what you just said, and bringing what you learn to therapy as questions, not conclusionsKnow someone leaning on AI for support? Share this episode with them, and leave us a review telling us where AI genuinely helps you, and where it starts to replace real connection. This episode is for general information and isn't a substitute for therapy or medical advice. The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

  2. Oct 26 ·  Video

    S2 Ep34 Parenting Teens Through Anxiety

    Your teen is struggling and you feel the panic rise: Did we miss something? Did we cause this? Should we be doing more? We get it. Teen anxiety, teen depression, and self-harm fears don’t just affect young people, they ripple through the whole family, and parents often carry the heaviest invisible load.  We talk honestly about why teen mental health looks worse right now, from social media and world events to school pressure, the economy, and an uncertain future shaped by fast-moving technology. Then we zoom in on the story many parents tell themselves and gently challenge it: a teen’s struggle is not proof you failed. We unpack nature versus nurture in a wider way, and we draw a clear line between responsibility and blame so you can stop spiralling and start supporting.  We also get practical about the hardest parenting balance point: when support turns into overhelping. We explore how rescuing can accidentally feed helplessness, and how to build resilience without going cold or minimizing what your teen feels. You’ll hear concrete language for validation, how to ask whether your teen wants listening or advice, and how to collaborate so they build agency and confidence. We close with a reminder parents need to hear: exhaustion and resentment are signs to get your own support too.  If this conversation helps, subscribe, share it with a parent who needs it, and leave a review so more families can find these tools. What part of supporting your teen feels hardest right now? The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

  3. Oct 19 ·  Video

    S2 · Ep 33: Money Turning Points — Inheritance, Grief, And Where To Start | Melany Goodhue | The MindSpa Podcast

    Inheritance, divorce, widowhood, retirement: some of the biggest money decisions of your life tend to arrive when you're least equipped emotionally to make them. In our third conversation with Certified Financial Planner Melany Goodhue, Tina Wilston and Michelle Massunken explore the financial turning points that should make you pause and revisit your plan, from marriage, children, and caring for aging parents to starting or selling a business. Melany explains why an inheritance can feel like a message about love or rejection, why "fair" isn't the same as "equal," and how talking through estate decisions while parents are still living can spare a family a lot of turmoil. Tina and Michelle bring the therapist's lens to grief, estrangement, and the hope of reconciliation, and Melany shares what it looks like when a grieving spouse calls their planner and finds everything already in place. If your finances feel like a mountain, start small: a simple cash flow exercise, then a one-page net worth sheet. From there, Melany walks through choosing the right financial help: why credentials like the CFP® matter and how to check them, why an advisor should tell you up front how they're paid and what their process includes, and the red flags to watch for, including anyone who promises guaranteed returns. Shame keeps people stuck; clarity creates movement. This episode follows Melany's earlier conversations in S2 · Ep 27 (Financial Anxiety — Why We Avoid Money And What Clarity Can Change) and S2 · Ep 32 (Retail Therapy Works Until The Visa Bill). About Melany Goodhue: Melany Goodhue, CFP®, is the founder of Pulse Wealth Management, an independent financial planning firm in Ottawa, Ontario, which she started in 2017. She helps women executives, entrepreneurs, and their families through life's biggest transitions, including retirement, separation, and selling a business. Learn more at pulsewealth.ca. Know someone who's been avoiding their numbers? Share this episode with them, and leave us a review telling us your first small step. This episode is for general information and isn't financial advice. The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

  4. Oct 5 ·  Video

    S2 · Ep 32: Retail Therapy Works Until The Visa Bill (Part 2 of 3) | Melany Goodhue | The MindSpa Podcast

    Money can feel like a numbers problem, but it often behaves like an identity problem. We sit down with Certified Financial Planner Melany Goodhue, CFP®, founder of Pulse Wealth Management, to talk about the emotional side of personal finance and the relationship side of budgeting, saving, and spending. If you've ever felt stressed checking your account, jealous of someone else's lifestyle, or stuck in a loop of earning more while still feeling behind, this conversation is built for you. We unpack why lifestyle inflation happens so quickly, how a high income can create a false sense of permanence, and what "balance" actually looks like in real life. We also get specific about practical tools that make the cost of living personal instead of theoretical, including spending trackers and simple systems like automatically increasing contributions over time. Along the way, we challenge status spending and comparison by remembering the iceberg truth: you see the highlight reel, not the debt, stress, or hidden support that might be underneath. Then we move into the stuff that can quietly make or break a partnership: money fights that are really about trust, misalignment, and fairness. We talk separate accounts versus joint accounts, why transparency matters more than "compatibility," and how big changes like promotions, job loss, inheritances, or business success can shift the power dynamic if you don't have agreements in place. You'll leave with clear takeaways on financial security, healthier money mindset habits, and how to make conscious decisions without shame. If this helped, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review. What money belief are you ready to rewrite? This is Part 2 of 3 in Melany's money series. Part 1 is S2 · Ep 27 (Financial Anxiety — Why We Avoid Money And What Clarity Can Change): https://www.buzzsprout.com/2464628/episodes/19726618 About Melany Goodhue: Melany Goodhue, CFP®, is the founder of Pulse Wealth Management, an independent financial planning firm in Ottawa, Ontario, which she started in 2017. Learn more at pulsewealth.ca. The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

  5. Sep 28 ·  Video

    S2 · Ep 31: Consensual Non-Monogamy — Relationship Diversity Through An Art Therapist’s Lens | Elena Kourounis | The MindSpa Podcast

    Monogamy is often treated as the only "serious" relationship option, but many people are quietly asking a bigger question: what if the relationship script we inherited doesn't actually fit? Tina Wilston sits down with Elena Kourounis, registered psychotherapist and art therapist at MindSpa Mental Health, and an author in Queer Worldmaking in Art Therapy, to talk about relationship diversity and how therapy can support couples, families, and individuals across many kinds of relationship structures.Elena breaks down consensual non-monogamy (CNM) in plain language, including the differences between swinging, open relationships, and polyamory. The conversation explores how mononormativity, patriarchy, and heteronormativity can teach ownership and competitiveness, and why those beliefs often show up as unfair "one-way" rules. Elena also shares the practical considerations that often get skipped online: sexual health conversations, time and money pressures, the role of metamours, and why "nesting partner" can be more respectful than ranking people as primary and secondary.Jealousy comes up too, not as a deal-breaker but as useful information. We talk about how to ask for reassurance, protect meaningful rituals, and build communication strong enough for difficult topics without ultimatums. Elena explains how art therapy can help when you don't yet have the words, and how clinicians can create safer spaces by asking "Who is in your relationship circle?" at intake and by representing more diverse family structures.If you've ever wondered whether CNM or polyamory could work for you, or why it might not, press play and think it through with us. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a review. Then tell us: what would you need to feel truly safe in a relationship conversation like this? The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

  6. Sep 23 ·  Video

    S2 · Ep 30: Burnout — Why It’s More Than Just Being Tired | Julian McKenzie | The MindSpa Podcast

    Burnout can be difficult to recognize. It may first feel like poor sleep, low energy, brain fog, or simply having too much on your plate, until functioning the way you normally do becomes much harder. In this episode of The MindSpa Podcast, journalist and broadcaster Julian McKenzie sits down with therapists Tina Wilston and Michelle Massunken for a grounded conversation about burnout, how it differs from everyday stress, and the ways prolonged strain can affect both emotional and physical wellbeing. They explore a practical mental health continuum from green to red and discuss some of the changes people may overlook while they are still “getting by”: withdrawing from friends, struggling to concentrate, feeling persistently depleted, or needing significantly more recovery time than usual. The conversation also looks at an important distinction between ordinary stress and more sustained exhaustion: what happens when taking time off, sleeping more, or temporarily disconnecting no longer seems to restore your usual level of energy and functioning. What You’ll Hear In This Episode Tina, Michelle, and Julian discuss burnout recovery and prevention, including the value of speaking with a family doctor or qualified healthcare professional when symptoms persist, allowing meaningful time for recovery, and examining the work and lifestyle patterns that may contribute to recurring exhaustion. They also explore why athletes, professionals, parents, and other high performers can find it especially difficult to recognize when they are reaching their limits in environments that reward persistence and productivity. Along the way, the conversation considers practical ways of creating more space for recovery, including reducing social media during particularly demanding periods, making a “to-don’t” list, separating work time from family time where possible, reconnecting with community, and practising self-compassion. If you have ever wondered whether scrolling really counts as rest — or why taking a weekend off sometimes does not feel like enough — this episode offers a thoughtful look at what meaningful recovery can involve. About Julian McKenzie Julian McKenzie is a Canadian sports journalist, broadcaster, author, and podcaster. He is an NHL staff writer and contributor to The Athletic’s NHL news and enterprise team and co-hosts The Chris Johnston Show. He is also the author of Black Aces: Essential Stories from Hockey’s Black Trailblazers. Connect With Julian McKenzie The Athletic: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/author/julian-mckenzie/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/julian-mckenzie-a5509492  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jkamckenzie/ X: https://x.com/jkamckenzie The Chris Johnston Show: https://sdpn.ca/cjshow/ The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

  7. Sep 14 ·  Video

    S2 · Ep 29: Veteran Transition — Rebuilding Identity, Purpose, And Belonging | Farid Yaghini | The MindSpa Podcast

    The uniform can provide structure, status, belonging, and a clear sense of what comes next. But when military service ends, those familiar anchors can change all at once, leaving much bigger questions behind: Who am I now? Where do I belong? What gives my life meaning? In this episode of The MindSpa Podcast, Tina Wilston and Michelle Massunken sit down with Farid Yaghini, a Canadian Armed Forces veteran, author, wellness coach, and founder and CEO of Camp Aftermath, for a thoughtful conversation about veteran transition, identity, purpose, and belonging. Born in Iran, Farid came to Canada as a child after his family fled religious persecution. He later joined the Canadian Armed Forces in 2002 and served on deployments to Afghanistan. Farid reflects on how military service gave him a strong sense of community and purpose, and what it meant to begin rebuilding those parts of himself after leaving that environment. He also shares an idea that has shaped the way he thinks about difficult experiences: “flickers” — small, vivid moments that can stand out amid chaos and give the mind something meaningful to hold onto. That perspective connects closely with the work of Camp Aftermath, a Canadian charitable organization supporting veterans, serving military members, first responders, and frontline professionals as they navigate transition. Farid explains the program’s emphasis on identity, purpose, belonging, volunteerism, peer connection, and long-term continuity, as well as why ongoing follow-up matters after an intensive program ends. The conversation also explores friendship outside military life, connection after service, stoicism, and the difference between experiencing pain and adding unnecessary suffering to it. Farid discusses how Camp Aftermath continues to evolve its programming, including cohorts designed to better respond to the experiences of women veterans. Farid also shares the story behind his memoir, Life in Rotations: From Persecuted Iranian to Proud Canadian, which traces his journey from Iran to Canada, military service and Afghanistan, family life, transition, and the eventual creation of Camp Aftermath. This is a grounded conversation about what can happen when a role that once shaped nearly every part of your identity changes — and how purpose, community, contribution, and connection can become part of building what comes next. Who Is Farid Yaghini? Farid Yaghini is a Canadian Armed Forces veteran, author, wellness coach, and founder and CEO of Camp Aftermath. He completed Humber College’s Wellness Coaching Ontario Graduate Certificate with honours in 2022. His work focuses on veteran transition, purpose, belonging, volunteerism, and creating meaningful connections beyond military service. Connect With Farid Yaghini Website: https://faridyaghini.com/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/farid-yaghini-a17079211 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/F.Yaghini Camp Aftermath: https://campaftermath.org/ Learn more about Farid and his story through MindSpa Mental Health: https://themindspa.ca/meet-farid-yaghini-veteran-author-and-founder-of-camp-aftermath/ The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

  8. Sep 7 ·  Video

    S2 · Ep 28: AITA Scenarios — Intimacy, Boundaries, And Unspoken Expectations | The MindSpa Podcast

    In this episode of The MindSpa Podcast, Tina Wilston and Michelle Massunken explore three AITA scenarios centred on intimacy, boundaries, communication, and the expectations that often go unspoken in relationships. Scenario 1: When Intimacy Stops Feeling Mutual Sex gets “taken off the table,” and a marriage that looks solid on paper starts to feel like it is missing something important. Tina and Michelle unpack a long-term dead bedroom scenario and explore the difference between pressuring a partner and honestly naming your relationship needs. They also discuss what it can mean when someone says they are “working on” their libido, why shared goals and follow-through matter, and how pausing sex in couples therapy can either support connection or create more distance depending on how the decision is framed and agreed to. Scenario 2: When a Birthday Trip Crosses a Boundary A small birthday trip turns into a friendship conflict when someone invites a person who was specifically not included in the original plan. The conversation looks at what happens when a clearly stated boundary is dismissed, and how minimization, accusations of being controlling, and shifting the focus away from the original issue can complicate conflict. Tina and Michelle reflect on the pressure to “keep the peace” and the emotional cost of repeatedly setting aside your own limits to avoid tension. Scenario 3: When Helping Turns Into Overfunctioning A short babysitting trial slowly expands into dinner, extra responsibilities, and a much later drop-off than expected. This scenario opens a broader discussion about people-pleasing, overfunctioning, and the guilt that can show up when capable, dependable people finally enforce a boundary. Tina and Michelle explore how unclear expectations can create resentment and why direct communication matters before helpfulness becomes an obligation. Across all three scenarios, the episode looks at how healthier boundaries, clearer communication, and more realistic expectations can support stronger relationships without reducing complicated situations to simple judgments. The MindSpa Podcast Thoughtful conversations about mental health, relationships, identity, healing, grounded in clinical expertise and steady human insight. Hosts Tina Wilston, M.Ed., Registered Psychotherapist  Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinawilston/ https://www.instagram.com/tinawilstontherapy/ https://www.facebook.com/tinawilstontherapy/ Michelle Massunken, MSW, RSW Co-Owner, MindSpa Mental Health Centre https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-massunken-msw-rsw/ https://www.instagram.com/michellemassunken.therapy/ https://www.facebook.com/MichelleMassunken/ MindSpa Mental Health Centre Ottawa - Kanata & Gloucester themindspa.ca https://www.linkedin.com/company/themindspa/ https://www.instagram.com/themindspa.ca/ https://www.facebook.com/themindspa.ca/ Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | YouTube

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The MindSpa Podcast is your go-to space for meaningful conversations around mental health, healing, and personal growth. Hosted by Michelle Massunken RSW and Tina Wilston RP, co-founders of MindSpa Mental Health Centre, each episode explores key mental health topics through expert interviews and thoughtful roundtable discussions. From managing stress and building stronger relationships to navigating invisible challenges, the MindSpa Podcast offers grounded, professional insights in a warm and accessible way. Tune in weekly for supportive, real-world conversations to help you feel seen, supported, and empowered on your wellness journey.