The Business of Wellness

David Guttman

Welcome to The Business of Wellness Podcast—where health, wellness, biohacking, and business collide. In partnership with CryoCon, this podcast explores how entrepreneurs and business owners can integrate health and wellness strategies to thrive in life and business. We’re diving into the intersection between optimizing mental and physical performance and scaling your business for success. David Guttman, a seasoned entrepreneur, invites guests from the world of wellness and business to share practical insights on elevating your health, boosting productivity, and creating a thriving business culture. Whether you’re looking to dive into biohacking or simply want to live a more balanced life while growing your business, this podcast will guide you on your journey. New Episodes Every Thursday Business Growth | Health Optimization | Wellness Insights This is the podcast that blends entrepreneurial insights with the latest in health and wellness. If you’re ready to take control of your well-being and your business, tune in and let’s get started.

  1. Jul 23

    The NFL Star Who Nearly Died on Everest | Mark Pattison

    Mark Pattison is 64, and he's in better shape now than he was in the NFL. That's the part of this conversation I keep coming back to. He walked me through the daily discipline behind it: three to four hours of movement, 15,000 steps a day, and breaking his own clinic stress-test record year after year. We also got into the two things most people overlook as they age, the socialization and sense of purpose that show up in every Blue Zone, and why he has no plans to ever retire. If you've been telling yourself the good years are behind you, this one's going to challenge that. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/46vct60⁠⁠ Click here to order your personalized poster!: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/46J08MS⁠⁠ Connect with Mark Pattison Get Mark Pattison’s  book, “Finding Your Summit”: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4fzTETV⁠⁠  Listen to "Finding Your Summit" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wUx7Il⁠⁠  Spotify: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pvuYAk⁠⁠  Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wPekye⁠⁠  Connect with Mark Pattison Website: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pFFaXm⁠⁠  YouTube: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3R7CTY7⁠⁠  Instagram: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wcP1Gk⁠⁠  Facebook: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4wkC25C⁠⁠  TikTok: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pAQWSJ⁠⁠  X: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4vONchY⁠⁠  LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pCGzhl⁠⁠  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 00:55 - Writing the book Finding Your Summit 03:15 - Growing up as an athlete 05:31 - How he made it to the NFL 06:08 - The pyramid of success 09:15 - Why he didn't quit 12:35 - Identity crisis after the NFL 17:22 - Waiting tables after football 18:36 - How the seven summits idea was born 21:41 - Almost dying on Everest 25:18 - Running out of oxygen on the descent 27:48 - What the seven summits cost 29:14 - Bodies on Everest 32:39 - His two daughters 33:00 - NFL Films documentary on his Everest climb 34:12 - What kept him going on the mountain 35:13 - Letting kids suffer and why it matters 37:08 - His daughter Amelia's epilepsy 38:15 - What he's up to now 40:08 - His daily fitness routine 43:00 - Purpose and socialization for longevity 45:40 - Getting remarried 47:16 - Aging at 64 and still crushing it 49:04 - Breaking his own VO2 max record 50:36 - Where to find Mark Pattison Watch the “CryoCON Podcast: Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube:⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO⁠⁠  Connect with David Guttman Website: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm⁠⁠  Instagram: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4y2VZze⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4awQRJv⁠⁠

  2. Jul 16

    Do This 5-Minute Breath Every Morning to Reset Your Nervous System (VO2 Max 58 at 53) | Brian Coones

    I sat down with Brian Coones and talked about the story of how three days in a coma at 39,  with a six-month-old daughter at home, rebuilt his entire life. We got into why he believes IQ is essentially fixed, but emotional intelligence is a skill you can train at any age, and how a simple morning breathwork practice left him with the VO2 max of a teenager at 53. If you've ever had everything you thought you wanted and still felt no peace, this one's going to hit close to home. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Listen to "The REWIRE Podcast" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4bol4e4  Spotify: https://bit.ly/44ysVSv  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4vAmSYL  Connect with Brian Coones Website: https://bit.ly/451VeJg  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4vynX38  Instagram: https://bit.ly/4hldqEW  TikTok: https://bit.ly/4hh2PLf  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4haiJXS  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 00:52 - Growing up in a small town 02:11 - Boxing and his grandfather's influence 02:49 - What is emotional fitness and Rewire 03:46 - Early success and losing himself 05:25 - Accidental overdose and the wake-up call 06:25 - How it affected his wife and family 06:59 - Who he works with today 08:44 - Weekend retreats in the wilderness 09:55 - Servant leaders vs visionary jerks 11:16 - Is emotional intelligence shifting in leadership 13:00 - Can you measure emotional intelligence 14:04 - EQ is a learnable skill 16:27 - Why retreats don't always stick 19:06 - Who typically comes to his retreats 20:40 - Biggest transformations he's witnessed 21:57 - The power of being honest with yourself 24:41 - How many people are actually self-aware 30:47 - Breathwork and a VO2 max of 58 at 53 31:37 - His full longevity stack 33:28 - Lonely vs being alone 34:10 - Why men struggle with authenticity 35:42 - Getting his kids involved in the work 37:47 - His TED talk and his daughter 38:33 - How he thinks about legacy 40:09 - Ego as a tool, not an identity 42:24 - Curiosity and humility as the two most important traits 44:41 - What he wants his kids to say about him 46:08 - Where to find Brian Coones Watch the “CryoCON Podcast: Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO Connect with David Guttman Website:https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm Instagram:https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr TikTok:https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI Facebook:https://bit.ly/4y2VZze X:https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4awQRJv SUBSCRIBE TO: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman Download the “Business of Wellness Podcast on all your favorite podcast platforms: Spotify: ​​https://bit.ly/4vN4T2i Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4wdndRU

  3. Jul 9

    Why You're Always Tired Even When the Bloodwork Comes Back Normal | Dr. Remina Panjwani

    I own three sleep trackers, and on any given night, they flat-out disagree.One says I slept great, another says it was trash, and they'll sometimes flip by morning. So I asked Dr. Remina Panjwani the question none of the "sleep experts" could answer for me: how do you actually know if you got a good night's sleep? Her take on why the eight-hour rule isn't real, why my devices can't agree, and the one test that actually measures your rest.   Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Connect with Dr. Remina Panjwani Get Dr. Remina Panjwani’s book, “ODD GIRL OUT, DOCTOR WITHIN: A Story of Purpose, Pillars, and Personal Power”: https://bit.ly/44U10fU  Listen to "Dr.Remina Panjwani Show" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4pdN0ai  Spotify: https://bit.ly/4f4iNph  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4vnDBP0  Connect with Dr. Remina Panjwani Website: https://bit.ly/44nKNzt  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4fpjRWa  Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RqdTLC  Facebook: https://bit.ly/4bwHbyS  TikTok: https://bit.ly/44maKiV  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4bwHf1A  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 01:16 - From survival mode to the military 03:58 - The long road to becoming a doctor 06:53 - How panic attacks led to functional medicine 11:58 - AI, the human touch, and a broken system 16:14 - Inside a boutique functional practice 17:49 - GLP-1s, muscle wasting, and longevity 21:51 - Genes, testing, and trusting the data 25:37 - Bloodwork, TRT, and building a foundation 27:02 - Do you really need eight hours of sleep? 30:20 - HRV, VO2 max, and what they really mean 33:13 - Sarcopenia, falls, and training to last 36:34 - Where to find Dr. Remina Panjwani Watch the “CryoCON Podcast: Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO Connect with David Guttman Website:https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm Instagram:https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr TikTok:https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI Facebook:https://bit.ly/4y2VZze X:https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4awQRJv SUBSCRIBE TO: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman Download the “Business of Wellness Podcast on all your favorite podcast platforms: Spotify: ​​https://bit.ly/4vN4T2i Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4wdndRU

  4. Jul 2

    Why You Still Feel Empty After Success | Jake Whan

    I sat down with breathwork facilitator and TEDx speaker Jake Whan to talk about why he felt completely empty even after building a successful business and getting his health dialed in, and what he discovered about the emotions we numb instead of feel. We get into his contrarian take that what we call depression is often just grief and sadness that were never allowed to move, why he believes numbing those feelings (with distraction or medication) keeps us stuck, and the profound spiritual experience that changed how he sees shame, healing, and connection. Whether or not you share his spiritual lens, his core claim is testable: you can sit with the emotion you've been running from and discover that you felt it, and you're fine.  Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Listen to "The Second Coming" on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/3SAgD9C  Spotify: https://bit.ly/4as1Rb1  Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4eE9rSp  Join Jake Whan's "The Ascension Shift" on for exclusive teachings, breathwork, and community!:  https://bit.ly/4v2KS6t  Connect with Jake Whan Website: https://bit.ly/4v2KS6t  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eQBFbo  Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RdJJLt  Facebook: https://bit.ly/4gR4Spb  TikTok: https://bit.ly/4v3UFJp  X: https://bit.ly/3Rbcusg  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4v5drQA  Timestamps 00:00 - ​Intro of Show 01:36 - His grandfather and the awareness that shaped him 04:02 - A childhood ruled by allergies and asthma 04:25 - Success at 25 and the emptiness underneath 06:00 - The turning point in the Austin parking lot 07:28 - Finding breathwork and a life coach 08:10 - Breath as spirit and feeling what's within 11:07 - How people find him and Ascension University 13:43 - Inside the six-week Soul Activation Course 15:38 - Wounds, victimhood, and reclaiming agency 16:59 - Turning your wounds into your gifts 20:00 - SSRIs, numbing, and finding your own authority 22:00 - Why your sadness is not a disorder 24:06 - Depression as unfelt grief 26:25 - Spirituality without religious dogma 29:38 - The breathwork session where he felt God 33:32 - Why some people feel God and some don't 35:32 - Authenticity, vulnerability, and the mask 38:59 - Identity as clothing, not skin 42:17 - Are we ever truly alone? Connection and source 46:15 - Legacy, presence, and what he wants to leave 48:22 - The necklace, the future, and his children  49:50: Where to find Jake Watch the “Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4eOaSfO Connect with David Guttman Website:https://bit.ly/4v6rnKm Instagram:https://bit.ly/4v2ALyr TikTok:https://bit.ly/4gP3hjI Facebook:https://bit.ly/4y2VZze X:https://bit.ly/4v3Xfza LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4awQRJv

  5. Jun 25

    The Therapy He Found Overseas Could Redefine Longevity | Sanjiv Lal

    I sat down with Sanjiv Lal, co-founder and CEO of Regen Therapy, to unpack what cellular aging actually is and why he calls aging itself "the real disease" behind nearly every chronic condition. We get into the biology of how our cells start misfiring, why he believes the cell-signaling we lose at 28 is the lever that matters most, and his own story of a COVID hospitalization that left his kidneys failing. I also press the skeptical questions: How do you measure if any of this works? What's the real cost?  Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Connect with Sanjiv Lal Website: https://bit.ly/4gErGbE  Instagram: https://bit.ly/4oO4hXs  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4g17uk5  Timestamps 00:00 - ​Intro of Show 00:42 - What is Regen Therapy 01:07 - Defining regenerative medicine 01:49 - Where longevity is headed 02:58 - Career background and big pharma roots 03:08 - Starting his own genetics company 04:35 - Getting COVID and nearly dying 05:17 - How regenerative medicine saved his kidneys 08:56 - Why he shut down his labs to build this 09:49 - Who is this for, sick or healthy? 11:00 - Can you actually reverse your age? 11:53 - Health span ends at 65 in America 12:23 - We have a sick care system, not healthcare 15:02 - How cellular aging actually works 18:02 - What the treatment looks like and the cost 20:01 - Cheaper than health insurance 21:09 - Not covered by insurance and why that matters 22:52 - Who are their patients 23:19 - How long they've been around 25:19 - How they measure if it's working 27:56 - The best mitochondrial test out there 29:52 - Slowing vs reversing aging 32:35 - Stacking TRT, peptides, and cell signals 32:55 - Cell signaling as the foundation 33:29 - Why he weaned off TRT 35:05 - Are they one of one? 36:05 - Self-funded, no outside capital 37:52 - Vision for the next five years 39:28 - Can it help an 84-year-old? 41:28 - Where to find Regen Therapy Watch the “Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3ZGK2yv Connect with David Guttman Website: https://bit.ly/4jclYvK Instagram: https://bit.ly/4iARMe9 TikTok: https://bit.ly/3P19NVm Facebook: https://bit.ly/49CQjQx X: https://bit.ly/4gH28aR LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3Bx7Tc2

  6. Jun 18

    How to Build Muscle After 40 With Short Workouts | Rab Shanableh

    You might think more time in the gym means more results. But after decades of long, grinding sessions, a lot of dedicated lifters end up with less muscle, more nagging injuries, and almost nothing to show for the hours they put in. In this conversation, I sit down with Rab Shanableh, co-founder and CEO of Oxefit, to unpack why the length of your workout has almost nothing to do with its quality.  Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Download the Ox AI app on the App Store and see how it becomes your ultimate training companion: https://bit.ly/4vikzKE  Connect with Rab Shanableh Website: https://bit.ly/4a8WGMV  YouTube: https://bit.ly/4aWYSr9  Instagram: https://bit.ly/4a74wa1  Facebook: https://bit.ly/4eeIggL  TikTok: https://bit.ly/4viIPwf  X: https://bit.ly/4a0GY6E  LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4a24RuC  Timestamps 00:00 - Intro of Show 01:04 - Disrupting a 100-year-old rehab room 02:25 - Meeting co-founder Dr. Peter Neuhaus 04:00 - Why you need data under load 05:43 - The problem with too many trackers 06:00 - Same results in 20 minutes 07:04 - The AI that knows you better 09:05 - Losing muscle with age 09:39 - The built-in fitness assessments 10:55 - Cardio testing on the smaller device 12:07 - Why it was never a fitness machine 15:13 - 7,000 devices and a B2B-first strategy 16:56 - Why your trackers disagree 20:23 - Self-funding and raising $105M 21:47 - Thoughts on exit timing 22:29 - All innovation now in Oxi AI 24:11 - How AI reshapes building the product 29:41 - Starting out of a closed Pensacola bar 30:36 - 18 months to MVP 32:43 - Leadership, equity, and hiring for grit 33:55 - Everyone is a shareholder 39:00 - Green flags and red flags in hiring 41:44 - Using Oxford at home 43:26 - Where to find Rab and OxeFit Watch the “Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3ZGK2yv Connect with David Guttman Website: https://bit.ly/4jclYvK Instagram: https://bit.ly/4iARMe9 TikTok: https://bit.ly/3P19NVm Facebook: https://bit.ly/49CQjQx X: https://bit.ly/4gH28aR LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3Bx7Tc2

  7. Jun 11

    How to Raise Kids Who Aren't Soft. Chores, Cash, and Their First Stock Account | Ryan Stewman

    I sat down with Ryan Stewman, who runs cattle on hundreds of acres, and he laid out why your grocery bill is about to jump a lot harder than the usual few percent this fall. He walked me through the math from inside the supply chain: cattle prices up roughly 5x in four years, fertilizer and diesel roughly doubled, and most farms planting less, and explained why the real shock doesn't hit until the September harvest. Watch the full conversation to hear exactly what he's watching for, and why he thinks most people won't see it coming until it's already on the shelf. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Connect with Ryan Stewman  Get Ryan Stewman books: https://bit.ly/4xq1jfK Listen to “The Hardcore Closer Podcast” on all your favorite platforms! YouTube: https://bit.ly/4xlJ6Qm Spotify: https://bit.ly/4uwoYIy Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4fVL1F9 Connect with Ryan Stewman  Website: https://bit.ly/4vlcGUR YouTube: https://bit.ly/4uYPifp Instagram: https://bit.ly/4on1fJl Facebook: https://bit.ly/4ojnq3h LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3SerDJq Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction 00:50 - Closer Capital and revenue-based lending 01:37 - Interest rates and risk profiles 02:44 - Car wash to mortgage millionaire 03:32 - How struggle builds character 04:50 - Losing two million dollars 06:10 - Reading the instructions first 07:06 - The dad he never had 09:00 - Discipline over love 11:00 - The prenup as an operating agreement 15:30 - George, the father figure 18:29 - A church and Keith Kraft 19:24 - Lead by example, never lie 23:43 - Raising privileged kids who work 27:15 - Mentors over clout chasers 29:27 - College ROI and law school plans 30:54 - AI is gutting business lawyers 31:45 - The coming food price shock 34:20 - AI as the next social media 36:05 - Where to find Ryan Watch the “Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3ZGK2yv Connect with David Guttman Website: https://bit.ly/4jclYvK Instagram: https://bit.ly/4iARMe9 TikTok: https://bit.ly/3P19NVm Facebook: https://bit.ly/49CQjQx X: https://bit.ly/4gH28aR LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3Bx7Tc2

  8. Jun 4

    This Device Changes How You Handle Stress | Jon Hacker

    You’re not burned out from doing too much. You’re burned out because your nervous system’s recovery switch stopped working, and every small stressor you face is being processed the same way your body would process a predator. Jon Hacker, founder of NeurGear, calls this being stuck in survival mode. His company built a device, Zen Buds, that uses focused ultrasound to directly stimulate the vagus nerve and reactivate the parasympathetic recovery response. Five minutes a day. Clinical data. No gel. No electrodes. No drift. Learn what Wharton Business School will never teach you!  Sign up for the ANTI-MBA today: https://bit.ly/46vct60 Click here to order your personalized poster!: https://bit.ly/46J08MS Connect with Jon Hacker Website: https://bit.ly/4oaktSu Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RKmZCR Facebook: https://bit.ly/4fTT05m TikTok: https://bit.ly/4e4rLma LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4uaNr5Z Timestamps 00:00 ​Intro of Show 00:27 Jon Hacker’s Backstory 01:41 The Making of ZenBud 04:02 Series 1 vs. Series 2 09:32 Product Experience 11:21 Biomarkers for Anxiety 16:37 Raising Capital and Company’s Vision 19:02 Ultrasound Technology and AI Integration 23:25 Research and Development on Series 2 28:20 What’s Next for Jon? 30:07 Connect with Jon Watch the “Business of Wellness Podcast” every Thursday at 8 AM EST on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3ZGK2yv Connect with David Guttman Website: https://bit.ly/4jclYvK Instagram: https://bit.ly/4iARMe9 TikTok: https://bit.ly/3P19NVm Facebook: https://bit.ly/49CQjQx X: https://bit.ly/4gH28aR LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3Bx7Tc2

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Welcome to The Business of Wellness Podcast—where health, wellness, biohacking, and business collide. In partnership with CryoCon, this podcast explores how entrepreneurs and business owners can integrate health and wellness strategies to thrive in life and business. We’re diving into the intersection between optimizing mental and physical performance and scaling your business for success. David Guttman, a seasoned entrepreneur, invites guests from the world of wellness and business to share practical insights on elevating your health, boosting productivity, and creating a thriving business culture. Whether you’re looking to dive into biohacking or simply want to live a more balanced life while growing your business, this podcast will guide you on your journey. New Episodes Every Thursday Business Growth | Health Optimization | Wellness Insights This is the podcast that blends entrepreneurial insights with the latest in health and wellness. If you’re ready to take control of your well-being and your business, tune in and let’s get started.