More Than You See

Deborah Lee Smith & Shelley Regner

More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

  1. 11/04/2025

    6.14 The Tools of Mental Health: Insights from Five Years

    In this season finale of the podcast, Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley reflect on their journey through mental health discussions over the past five years. They revisit five key tools that have significantly impacted their understanding of mental health, including the importance of choosing one's path, grieving job loss, transforming stress into gratitude, naming emotions to tame them, and listening to the body's signals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community, self-awareness, and the ongoing journey of mental health. This is the season finale of season 6 but stay turned for more episodes coming soon! Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Mental Health Journeys 02:25 Reflecting on Five Years of Podcasting 04:18 The Importance of Choosing Your Path 22:57 Grieving Career Loss and Identity 28:05 Understanding Attachment and Letting Go 29:10 The Emotional Journey of Theater and Performance 32:10 Finding Gratitude in Stressful Times 34:56 Navigating Mental Health Challenges 38:17 The Importance of Naming Emotions 41:16 Understanding Emotional Reactions 44:07 The Role of Medication in Mental Health 46:59 Listening to Your Body's Signals 50:05 The Connection Between Mind and Body Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    56 min
  2. 10/28/2025

    6.13 - Unlocking Your Core Values

    In this episode of the More Than You See podcast, Deborah Lee Smith discusses the Values Bridge Test, a tool designed to help individuals identify their core values and assess the alignment between their current lives and their values. She shares her personal experience with the quiz, revealing insights about her own values and how they impact her life choices. Deborah emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and encourages listeners to take the quiz to better understand themselves and make meaningful changes in their lives. Take it here: https://thevaluesbridge.com/ Buy Suzy's "Becoming You" book: https://amzn.to/48Lt08M Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    12 min
  3. 10/14/2025

    6.12 Skincare & Mental Health

    In this conversation, Deborah and Shelley discuss the intricate relationship between skincare and mental health. They explore how various skincare products can negatively impact mental well-being due to harmful ingredients, particularly endocrine disruptors. The discussion also touches on cultural beauty standards, personal experiences with natural skincare, and the importance of hormonal balance in maintaining both physical and mental health. Article about endocrine disruptors mentioned! Special shoutout this week to Dermatoloqi who is generously giving us 20% off your first order! Just go to www.dermatoloqi.com and use code MORETHAN at checkout! Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Skincare and Mental Health 00:29 The Science Behind Skincare and Mental Health 07:59 Personal Experiences with Natural Skincare 12:56 The Importance of Hormone Regulation in Skincare 15:39 Dermatology Wrap-Up and Mental Health Connection 15:57 Engagement and Community Interaction Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    17 min
  4. 6.11 The Inner Life of a Writer with Allison Larkin

    10/07/2025

    6.11 The Inner Life of a Writer with Allison Larkin

    In this episode, Allison Larkin shares her journey as a writer and the impact of mental health on her creative process. She discusses her experiences with ADHD, the emotional toll of writing, and the importance of authenticity in her work. The conversation explores the challenges of balancing personal relationships with the demands of being a writer, as well as the grieving process that comes with finishing a book. Larkin emphasizes the significance of self-discovery and vulnerability in creativity, and the role of reader feedback in shaping her writing. Learn about Allison: Allison Larkin is the internationally bestselling author of the novels Home of the American Circus, The People We Keep, Stay, Why Can’t I Be You, and Swimming for Sunlight. Her short fiction has been published in the Summerset Review and Slice, and nonfiction in Author in Progress, a how-to guide from Writer’s Digest Books, and the dog anthology I’m Not the Biggest Bitch in This Relationship. She lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with her husband, Jeremy, and their rescue dogs, Roxy and Bosley. Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    51 min
  5. 6.10 Transforming Stress Through Gratitude

    10/01/2025

    6.10 Transforming Stress Through Gratitude

    In this episode of the More Than You See podcast, Deborah Lee Smith shares her personal journey with a gratitude practice that has significantly impacted her mental health. Following a family emergency, she discusses how actively engaging in gratitude has helped her cope with stress and maintain a positive outlook. She also delves into the neurological benefits of gratitude, explaining how it can enhance emotional well-being and improve mood. The episode concludes with encouragement for listeners to adopt their own gratitude practices. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Episode Overview 01:43 Personal Experience with Gratitude Practice 06:42 Neurological Benefits of Gratitude 09:03 Conclusion and Encouragement for Listeners Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    8 min
  6. Finding Joy Again: Mental Health for Creatives in Overwhelming Times - Bonus F*kt Episode

    09/25/2025 · BONUS

    Finding Joy Again: Mental Health for Creatives in Overwhelming Times - Bonus F*kt Episode

    In this episode of More Than You See, Deborah Smith discusses the importance of mental health for creatives, especially in overwhelming times. She emphasizes the need for community, self-care, and the power of storytelling to reclaim joy. Through reflective questions, she encourages listeners to prioritize their well-being and recognize their unique contributions as storytellers. Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    8 min
  7. 6.09 The Future of Art in an AI World

    09/23/2025

    6.09 The Future of Art in an AI World

    In this episode of 'More Than You See', hosts Deborah and Shelley discuss the impact of AI on podcasting, the importance of creativity in a tech-driven world, and the challenges of maintaining mental health in a digital age. They share personal experiences, insights on navigating the complexities of technology, and the significance of finding balance and connection in life. The episode concludes with a positive story about an organization making a difference in food rescue and emissions reduction. 00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates 01:56 The Impact of AI on Podcasting 03:16 Concerns About AI and Creativity 05:46 Navigating Technology and Mental Health 08:23 The Future of Human Connection 10:53 Finding Balance in a Tech-Driven World 13:10 Personal Reflections and Life Choices 18:47 Reflections on Control and Faith 20:31 Navigating the Digital Age 23:00 Mental Health Toolbox: Managing Overwhelm 27:35 The Impact of Technology on Anxiety 33:15 Good News: Positive Change in the World Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    38 min
  8. Feeling Creatively Paralyzed - Bonus F*kt Episode

    09/19/2025 · BONUS

    Feeling Creatively Paralyzed - Bonus F*kt Episode

    In this candid episode of the "More Than You See" podcast, host Deborah Lee Smith takes us on a reflective journey through the challenges of creative paralysis and the quest for authenticity in a world filled with noise. As she navigates the pressures of multiple projects and the struggle to find her unique voice, Deborah shares personal insights on embracing imperfection and the importance of being kind to oneself. Join the conversation and discover how to stay motivated amidst the chaos. Thank you for being part of this MTYS community! Join us on social media:⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠| ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Website⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ _______________________  Learn more about Deborah Lee Smith:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠~NEWSLETTER SIGN UP~⁠⁠⁠ ~ New here? More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the real mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.

    8 min

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More Than You See strips away the highlight reels to reveal the mental health journeys of actors, artists, and creatives. Hosts Deborah Lee Smith and Shelley Regner ask the questions others avoid — exploring what was happening off stage when life looked perfect, and how depression, anxiety, and resilience shaped the people we admire. Each episode also brings a dose of “good news” in mental health: uplifting stories, new research, and cultural shifts that remind us progress is happening. Come for the unfiltered confessions, stay for the hope, and leave knowing you’re not alone.