Between The Walls

Architecture + Design Library

A podcast by the Architecture + Design Library Step Between the Walls and into the world of design, creativity, and connection. Brought to you by the Architecture + Design Library, this podcast explores the stories, ideas, and collaborations shaping New Zealand’s built environment — and beyond. Join us as we talk to architects, interior designers, builders, makers, and industry leaders about their processes, challenges, and the spaces that inspire them. Whether you're a seasoned professional or simply design-curious, Between the Walls offers honest conversations, fresh insights, and a look behind the scenes of the creative industries. Welcome to your new favourite place to listen, learn, and be inspired.

  1. 3D AGO

    The AD Library Story — How It All Began

    Send us a text In this holiday replay, we’re bringing back the episode that launched the entire Between the Walls journey — the story behind AD Library. If you’re building or renovating, or simply curious about the spaces where ideas and industry come together, this conversation captures the heart of what AD Library set out to create. In this episode, Janey sits down with AD Library founders — and your Between the Walls co-hosts — Penny and Verity. Together they share how a single coffee meeting in Wānaka sparked a bold vision for a shared workspace and architectural sample library, why the concept filled such a major gap in the industry, and how community ended up becoming their greatest strength. From the challenges of explaining something that didn’t exist yet, to the “aha” moments, the design-porn excitement, and the unexpected wins, this is the honest, warm origin story of a space that’s changing how people build in smaller centres across Aotearoa. What you’ll hear in this episode The coffee meeting that planted the seed for AD Library How a shared workspace and sample library came together as one idea Why collaboration between architects, designers, builders, and suppliers matters What makes the sample library a game changer for both professionals and DIY renovators The real challenges of launching something totally new How community, connection, and shared problem-solving became the heart of the space Why touching and seeing real samples reduces overwhelm and speeds up decisions The biggest mistakes people make at the beginning of a build Why an early independent plan review can save thousands Current design trends — colour, texture, sustainability, and the rise of “brown” The founders’ vision for expanding AD Library across the country The one piece of advice Penny and Verity want every homeowner to hear Connect with AD Library Website: adlibrary.co.nz Instagram: @adlibrary.nz Are you feeling overwhelmed by all the decisions you need to make for your new build or renovation and have no idea where to start. The Architecture + Design Library is your answer. A one stop 'shop' for finding designers and trades, sourcing materials and products and gaining education on those items so you know you are making the right decisions.

    28 min
  2. 12/23/2025

    Designing Kitchens That Truly Live Well with Michelle from MAD.Interiors

    Send us a text In this episode of Between the Walls, Janey and Verity sit down with Michelle from MAD.Interiors — a Wānaka-based interior designer known for creating kitchens that feel deeply considered, beautifully practical, and full of personality. From the forgotten details (like where the rubbish bin actually goes) to the big decisions around layout, materials, budget, and lifestyle flow, this conversation explores what really makes a kitchen work in the real world. Michelle shares her journey from studying interior design in Amsterdam to building a life and business in Wānaka — and why she describes the kitchen as the true workhorse of the home. She walks us through how she reads a client’s lifestyle, the questions she always asks, and the small details that can completely change the way a kitchen feels. If you’re planning a new build, renovating, or simply wanting your kitchen to finally function the way you do, this episode is full of grounded, practical insight. What you’ll hear in this episode: • The MAD.Interiors story  • Kitchens as the workhorse of the home  • What homeowners forget  • Lifestyle-first design  • Budget brackets  • Materials & finishes  • Outdoor flow  • Colour & personality  • Power points & splashbacks  • Open shelving  • Tech & future kitchens  • AD Library collaboration  • Kitchen consults  • Michelle’s guiding principle Michelle’s Takeaways for Homeowners • Design for how you actually live  • Know your budget early  • Be brave with personality  • Trust yourself — it’s your home Connect with Michelle mad.Interiors  Website: www.madinteriors.co.nz  Instagram: @mad.interiors.nz For kitchen design, full interiors, colour consulting, or a kitchen consult at AD Library, Michelle works with clients across Wānaka, Queenstown, Central Otago, and beyond. Connect with AD Library Website: www.adlibrary.nz AD Library brings materials, brands, and expert guidance together under one roof — making design and building simple for professionals and anyone planning their next project. Are you feeling overwhelmed by all the decisions you need to make for your new build or renovation and have no idea where to start. The Architecture + Design Library is your answer. A one stop 'shop' for finding designers and trades, sourcing materials and products and gaining education on those items so you know you are making the right decisions.

    29 min
  3. 12/15/2025

    Crafting Timeless Timber Spaces with Felix from Forté

    Send us a text In this episode of Between the Walls,  Verity sits down with Felix from Forté — the New Zealand family business celebrating 40 years of working with timber. From a small native mill in Pukekohe to a nationwide brand trusted by architects, designers, and homeowners, Forté’s journey is rooted in family, craft, and a commitment to creating high-performing surfaces that last. Felix shares how Forté evolved from local milling to designing and manufacturing world-leading engineered timber, cladding, decking, and cabinetry solutions. They explore the beauty of patina, the realities of wear, how to care for timber across generations, and why choosing materials that are low-maintenance, high-performance, and genuinely enjoyable to live with matters more than ever. From colour trends and texture to underfloor heating, E3 wet-area compliance, and the rise of experience centres, this conversation offers a deep, practical look at designing spaces that feel warm, welcoming, and enduring. What you’ll hear in this episode: The Forté story • How a small family-operated sawmill grew into a national timber brand, with all five brothers now part of the business.  • The rebrand from Heritage Timber to Forté — and the philosophy behind “high performance, low maintenance.” Engineered timber explained • What engineered timber actually is — how it’s built, why oak is preferred, and what gives it strength and stability.  • Why glued-down floors outperform floating systems, especially when it comes to lifespan, comfort, and re-sanding. Living with timber • Wear, dents, patina, and why the marks of life are part of the beauty.  • Daily care, deep cleans, and how long you can expect timber to last before needing a refresh. Cladding, decking, and exterior performance • UV stability, zero maintenance requirements for up to 15 years, and why Forté’s exterior range is perfect for the Kiwi lifestyle. Climate, durability, and performance in NZ conditions • Why certain timbers in overseas projects don’t translate well into New Zealand’s dry, harsh climates — especially in the south.  • The realities of underfloor heating and what homeowners need to know. E3 wet-area compliance • The industry shake-up that changed kitchen flooring rules.  • How Forté created a full, CodeMark-approved solution — including design guides, adhesives, sealing methods, and installation requirements. Cabinetry and veneers • The launch of Forté’s paired veneer panels — allowing floors, walls, ceilings, and cabinetry to connect seamlessly.  • Why “pairings” (not matching) creates harmony across different planes of light. Longevity and lifecycle • Expected lifespan, re-sanding opportunities, and how long timber can truly stay beautiful under daily life. Felix’s advice for homeowners and designers: Think long-term  Choose materials that will age gracefully — not just look good on install day. Prioritise performance and lifestyle  Low maintenance and engineered stability matter just as much as appearance. Consider flow  Flooring, cladding, decking, and cabinetry can work together to create a calm, cohesive space. Connect with Forté: Website: www.forte.co.nz Experience Centres: Auckland, Queenstown, Christchurch, Melbourne Connect with AD Library: Website Are you feeling overwhelmed by all the decisions you need to make for your new build or renovation and have no idea where to start. The Architecture + Design Library is your answer. A one stop 'shop' for finding designers and trades, sourcing materials and products and gaining education on those items so you know you are making the right decisions.

    30 min
  4. 12/08/2025

    Designing Warmer, Drier, Healthier Homes with Ken from Starke

    Send us a text In this episode of Between the Walls, Janey and Rebecca sit down with Ken from Starke, the team behind Ambience — a UPVC window and door system created to bring warmer, drier, quieter, healthier living to everyday Kiwi homes. New Zealand has long accepted cold, damp houses as “just how it is,” but Ken is determined to change that narrative. His focus is simple: Comfort should be a standard, not a luxury. Ken shares how Starke brought Ambience to life, why UPVC is the global standard for high-performance windows, and how small design decisions can fundamentally shift the wellbeing of a home. They explore condensation, energy efficiency, UV stability, sustainability, and the real cost of ignoring window performance in New Zealand’s harsh conditions.  From standardisation and cost savings to innovation and long-term health impacts, this episode offers deep insight for architects, builders, renovators, and homeowners who want a better-performing home. What you’ll hear in this episode: The Ambience origin story How Starke — known for commercial aluminium systems — launched Ambience in 2022 to bring world-leading UPVC technology into NZ homes. Why windows are the biggest performance problem How up to 70% of heat gain and the majority of winter heat loss comes through glazing — and why heating and cooling alone can’t fix it. Comfort-first design What it truly means to design a home that stays warm in winter, cool in summer, dry, quiet, and healthy for the people living in it. Condensation and New Zealand’s health problem Why removing 1–2 litres of water off your windows each morning isn’t normal — and how that moisture affects your carpets, furniture, air quality, and lungs. Breaking misconceptions about UPVC Why early products failed, what’s changed, and how today’s UPVC systems are UV-stabilised, tested, and engineered for New Zealand conditions. Standard sizes and smarter building How pre-made, standardised window sizes — widely used overseas — can reduce variation, simplify construction, and lower costs for homeowners. Durability and performance From 50-year expected lifespan to 10-year colourfast warranties, Ken explains why Ambience is built to last across generations. Double glazing, triple glazing, and operating styles Why homeowners can choose between familiar NZ awning windows or European-style tilt-and-turn systems without compromising ease of use. Black, white, greys, and new timber-grain finishes that bring warmth and texture into modern interiors. Sustainability and recycling UPVC made with 50% recycled material, nearly zero factory waste, and products that can be endlessly recycled at end-of-life. Innovation on the horizon New systems designed for renovations, high-performance upgrades, and doors so smooth they open with one finger — ideal for retirement living. The industry shift Why large-scale builders, group housing companies, and retirement villages are beginning to see high-performance windows as the future. Connect with Starke / Ambience: Website: www.starke.co.nz Connect with AD Library: AD Library: www.adlibrary.nz  AD Library makes building and design simple for everyone — whether you’re a professional or working on your first project. With over 80 brands under one roof, they connect you with materials, expert advice, and local talent to bring your ideas to life. Visit during Open Days or by appointment to explore their sample library, co-working space, and more.

    19 min
  5. 12/01/2025

    Market Insight & Mindful Leadership with Anneke Kawau

    Send us a text In this episode of Between the Walls, Janey and Penny sit down with Anneke Kawau, General Manager of Ray White Wanaka, for a grounded, insightful look at what’s really shaping the Wānaka property market right now. Anneke unpacks why Wānaka continues to operate in its own “micro climate,” how confidence is returning to auctions, and what today’s buyers are prioritising — from lifestyle and location to heating, cooling, materials, and high-performing home design. They dive into how sellers can prepare their homes for maximum impact, which features hold long-term value, and why the lower end of the market is seeing a fresh lift.  Anneke also opens up about her leadership philosophy — mindful high performance, psychological safety, building a strong team culture, and how she balances business, family life, and wellbeing with intention. This conversation is packed with clarity, honesty, and practical insight for homeowners, investors, agents, and anyone curious about what’s ahead for Wānaka’s property landscape. What you’ll hear in this episode The Wānaka market right nowWhy prices are lifting, why listings are tight, and what’s driving renewed auction activity.Confidence returning to buyersHow shifts in the OCR and clearer financial conditions are creating calm, grounded momentum.Who’s buying — and whyWhat buyers really valueLow-maintenance living, natural light, strong heating/cooling, solar options, efficient layouts, and high-performing design.Are passive or high-performing homes in demand?Why certified passive isn’t common — but demand for healthier, better-performing homes is rising fast.Preparing your home for saleThe essentials: street appeal, tidy landscaping, first impressions, and depersonalising so buyers see themselves in the space.Which homes are gaining the most tractionHeat in the lower market, movement in the $2–3M bracket, and why long-listed homes are finally shifting.Features that hold long-term value Anneke’s advice for homeowners and sellers Get the basics rightStreet appeal, tidy gardens, and a clean, welcoming entrance set the tone immediately.Depersonalise your spacesGive buyers room to imagine their life — not yours — in the home.Kitchens, bathrooms, heating, cooling, and good lighting offer the strongest long-term return.Choose upgrades that improve daily living and support healthier, more efficient homes. Connect with Ray White Wānaka Website: rwwanaka.co.nz Connect with AD Library Website: adlibrary.nz AD Library makes building and design simple — whether you’re a professional or working on your first project. With over 80 brands under one roof, they connect you with materials, expert advice, and the local talent you need to bring your ideas to life. Visit during Open Days or book an appointment to explore the sample library, co-working space, and more.

    22 min
  6. 11/24/2025

    Turning the Forgettable into the Unforgettable with Buster + Punch

    Send us a text In this episode of Between the Walls, Janey and Verity sit down with John Wright from Buster + Punch, a design brand that began in a small London garage surrounded by motorbikes, music, and metal — and has since grown into a global name known for elevating the everyday. From door handles and switches to lighting and furniture, Buster + Punch is all about transforming the unnoticed details of a home into bold, tactile design moments. John shares the story behind the brand’s origins, the influence of London street culture, and how a handcrafted whiskey bar for members of the Rolling Stones helped shape the company’s early reputation. They explore why solid metals matter, how knurling sparked a global design trend, and what it takes to bring attitude, craftsmanship, and function together across hardware, lighting, and electrical fittings. They also discuss sustainability, longevity, and the challenge of bringing better-quality fittings into a market used to “that’ll do” options. From smoke bronze and stainless steel trends to the future of smart home technology, this conversation is full of insight for designers, builders, renovators, and anyone who loves thoughtful details. What you’ll hear in this episode: The Buster + Punch origin story  How a “frustrated architect” tinkering in an East London garage turned metal, motorbikes, and street culture into a global design brand. The products that changed everything  The surprising early pieces — including the Rockstar and Popstar whiskey bars — that put Buster + Punch on the map. Why daily touch-points deserve more attention  Why door handles, switches, and fittings should be high on your design priority list — and why weight, texture, and quality matter. The power of solid metals  How brass, stainless steel, and signature knurling textures brought new life to hardware and influenced global trends. Designing across three categories  How the brand maintains a consistent look and feel across hardware, lighting, and electrical — and why that’s harder than it sounds. Sustainability and longevity  From reducing single-use plastics to creating fittings that last a lifetime, John shares how Buster + Punch is evolving with responsibility in mind. Trends shaping hardware today  The rise of smoke bronze, the return of stainless steel, and how tapware trends influence hardware selections. Smart home expectations  How the next generation’s need for automation is shaping the future of switches and home technology. John’s advice for homeowners and designers: Don’t overlook the small things  Switches, handles, and fittings shape how a home feels — invest where your hands go most often. Explore beyond the basic options  You’re not limited to whatever your electrician offers. There are better, smarter, more beautiful choices. Connect with Buster + Punch: Website: www.busterandpunch.com Connect with AD Library: AD Library: www.adlibrary.nz AD Library makes building and design simple for everyone — whether you’re a professional or working on your first project. With over 80 brands under one roof, they connect you with materials, expert advice, and local talent to bring your ideas to life. Visit during Open Days or by appointment to explore their sample library, co-working space, and more. Open Days Tuesdays 10am - 2pm Thursdays 10am - 2pm Every second Saturday of each month 10am - 2pm

    22 min
  7. 11/17/2025

    Design Like You Give a Damn with Shana Payne

    Send us a text In this episode of Between the Walls, Janey and Verity sit down with Shana Payne, architect at Ignite Architects and Southern Branch Chair for the NZIA (New Zealand Institute of Architects), to explore what it means to design with the future in mind. Shana shares how her early experiences volunteering after Hurricane Katrina shaped her passion for climate-adaptive design and why sustainability isn’t just a buzzword — it’s a responsibility. They unpack the ideas behind Carbon Zero, how architecture can adapt to a changing climate, and why thoughtful material choices lead to healthier homes and communities. From Homestar and GreenStar certifications to small shifts that make a big impact, Shana explains how designers, builders, and homeowners can all play a part in creating buildings that care — for people and the planet. What you’ll hear in this episode: How Hurricane Katrina inspired Shana’s journey into sustainable architecture. What Carbon Zero really means — and how to design for future temperatures. The difference between Homestar, GreenStar, and other certifications. Why smaller, smarter homes create stronger family connection and lower carbon impact. The power of climate-adaptive design and designing for future generations. How healthier materials lead to healthier homes. Why collaboration and education are key to change across the industry. Memorable moments: “Design like you give a damn — you’re not just designing for today, you’re designing for future generations.” “You can build for today’s temperature, but what are you building for the future temperature?” “Sustainability doesn’t have to be complicated. It starts with one better material, one better choice.” “Healthy homes aren’t just about comfort — they’re about care, air, and the way we live inside them.” Shana’s advice for homeowners and designers: Start small — even one sustainable material or system makes a difference. Think beyond the build — consider the home’s long-term performance. Focus on people, health, and connection as much as energy and cost. Design for longevity — not just for now, but for generations ahead. Connect with AD Library: AD Library: www.adlibrary.nz AD Library makes building and design simple for everyone — whether you’re a professional or working on your first project. With over 80 brands under one roof, they connect you with materials, expert advice, and local talent to bring your ideas to life. Visit during Open Days or by appointment to explore their sample library, co-working spaces, and more. Open Days Tues: 10am - 2pm Thurs: 10am - 2pm Every second Saturday of each month 10am - 2pm Are you feeling overwhelmed by all the decisions you need to make for your new build or renovation and have no idea where to start. The Architecture + Design Library is your answer. A one stop 'shop' for finding designers and trades, sourcing materials and products and gaining education on those items so you know you are making the right decisions.

    30 min
  8. 11/14/2025

    Know Your Worth: Valuing Time, Energy, and Boundaries

    Send us a text In this episode of Between the Walls, Janey sits down with Penny and Verity — founders of the Architecture and Design Library — for a real conversation every creative will relate to: how much is your time really worth? They unpack the emotional and financial cost of overgiving, the challenge of setting boundaries, and the power that comes when creatives truly start to value their expertise. From awkward invoicing calls to the “waste-of-time tax,” this episode shines a light on why it’s so important to respect your own energy and time — and how doing so can lift the whole industry. What you’ll hear in this episode: Why so many creatives struggle to charge for their time — and how to shift that mindset. The emotional and financial impact of blurred boundaries. How to communicate value confidently and set expectations early. The difference between generosity and undervaluing your work. Real stories from inside the design studio — including client conversations and lessons learned. How experience, community, and confidence help build stronger boundaries. Bonus listener Q&A: kitchen must-haves, favourite AD Library products, and design details that make all the difference. Memorable moments:  “Your time, your expertise, and your energy are valuable — when you charge for them, you elevate the whole industry.” “If you don’t value your own time, why would a client?” “It’s not just about money — it’s about protecting your focus, creativity, and emotional wellbeing.” Advice for creatives:  Be confident in what you bring to the table.  Set clear boundaries early and communicate them often.  Remember — your experience and energy are worth investing in. Connect with AD Library:  www.adlibrary.nz AD Library makes building and design simple for everyone — whether you’re a professional or working on your first project. With over 80 brands under one roof, they connect you with materials, expert advice, and local talent to bring your ideas to life. Visit during Open Days or by appointment to explore their sample library, co-working spaces, and more. OPEN DAYS Tues 10am - 2pm Thurs 10am - 2pm Every second Saturday of each month 10am - 2pm Are you feeling overwhelmed by all the decisions you need to make for your new build or renovation and have no idea where to start. The Architecture + Design Library is your answer. A one stop 'shop' for finding designers and trades, sourcing materials and products and gaining education on those items so you know you are making the right decisions.

    24 min

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A podcast by the Architecture + Design Library Step Between the Walls and into the world of design, creativity, and connection. Brought to you by the Architecture + Design Library, this podcast explores the stories, ideas, and collaborations shaping New Zealand’s built environment — and beyond. Join us as we talk to architects, interior designers, builders, makers, and industry leaders about their processes, challenges, and the spaces that inspire them. Whether you're a seasoned professional or simply design-curious, Between the Walls offers honest conversations, fresh insights, and a look behind the scenes of the creative industries. Welcome to your new favourite place to listen, learn, and be inspired.