In this episode, we sit down with Diane Malaspina, Performance Coach Manager at Arena Labs, psychologist, and yoga and mindfulness teacher, who spent years working directly with healthcare providers navigating unprecedented stress during COVID-19. Her unique integration of psychology, mind-body practices, and frontline coaching experience reveals the hidden patterns that lead talented clinicians to struggle and what actually works to help them recover. Diane walks us through the window of tolerance framework, explaining how healthcare providers cycle between hyperarousal (the inability to sleep, anxious rumination, digestive issues, and irritability) and hypoarousal (the exhaustion phase where motivation disappears and the body shuts down). While working with a University Department of Psychiatry during the pandemic, she witnessed compassion fatigue firsthand as practitioners carried patients' struggles home, unable to separate work from personal life, what she calls "the gray zone." This isn't abstract theory. It's about what happens when brilliant problem-solvers ignore their own symptoms, believing time management will solve what's actually an energy management crisis. Diane explains how high achievers in high-demand environments develop a distorted relationship with time, constantly pushing through strain without pausing to regenerate their nervous systems. We explore: The physiological markers that signal burnout before it becomes severe—and why coaches can't let clinicians skip past symptomsWhy that "break" spent scrolling your phone in the cafeteria isn't actually a break, and what qualifies as genuine nervous system recoveryHow a surgeon working 12-hour procedures manages energy through team structure, strategic mini-breaks, and sleep optimizationThe shift from "I can't" to "what's the minimal doable step?"—and why starting with five deep breaths outside matters more than elaborate wellness programsHow one couple reclaimed 30 minutes of sleep by co-creating bedtime goals, leading to measurable improvements in workplace focusWhy leaders need to hear that "putting in more hours when people are depleted" doesn't produce quality outcomes—and what the alternative looks likeDiane makes the case that investing in clinician well-being isn't soft science—it's directly connected to patient outcomes, turnover, and whether healthcare providers can stay connected to their purpose. She challenges us to get curious about quality of life metrics, not just quantitative dollar analysis, and to recognize that the system can only push for so long before it hits exhaustion. Whether you're experiencing the early signs of burnout, managing teams under relentless pressure, or trying to build a culture where breaks actually restore energy, this conversation offers evidence-based frameworks and practical tools from someone who's guided hundreds of healthcare providers back from the edge. Have thoughts or ideas sparked by this episode? Reach out to the team at Arena Labs. Got thoughts, questions, or big ideas? Reach out to the team at Arena Labs. Got thoughts, questions, or big ideas? Reach out to the team at Arena Labs.