Playing The Fool

Jarna Saunders
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Welcome to the PLAYING THE FOOL Podcast, I am your host Jarna Saunders. I am a proud as f**k Life and Relationship Coach and personal development nerd, with a HUGE passion to get every single woman in the arena of their own lives.  I have over 10 years’ experience coaching 100's of women and couples. I've been where you may be right now: for years I sat on the side-lines of my life, stuck in fear, in my head, in the past of that ONE TIME I was put back in my corner and I let it cripple me with fear. That was until one day when the PAIN of staying hidden was too much to take and I made the choice to get my butt in  the ARENA of MY OWN life. To take the risk of looking like a beginner, looking silly and GOD forbid looking like a FOOL. My promise to you is to show up here in all my parts and seasons with my heart proudly on my sleeve, gate keeping nothing but asking us all to WALK OUR GOD DAM ARSES out of the corners we were never born to exist in. Let's Play.

  1. 2d ago

    Episode 47: Gabrielle walker: RomiRomi, Healing & The Certainty in an Open Heart.

    There are people who don’t just change your life but they change the whole you experience your life, Gabrielle Walker is one of those people for me. When we first met over twelve years ago, I had no idea the journey we were about to begin together. Through some of the hardest seasons of my life, marriage struggles, motherhood, grief, and learning who I really was Gabrielle became someone who helped me reconnect with myself in a way I'd never experienced before. In this episode, I'm sharing one of the most personal conversations I've ever had on the podcast. We talk about how we met, my first experience with RomiRomi, and why Māori healing completely transformed the way I relate to pain, trust, and my own power as a woman. For so many years, I searched outside of myself for answers. This work taught me that everything I was looking for was already within me. I just needed to learn how to listen. We explore the difference between trying to fix ourselves and learning to fully accept ourselves, how healing happens through the body, and why building self-trust has been one of the greatest gifts I've ever received. If you've ever questioned yourself, struggled to trust your intuition, or felt disconnected from who you really are, I hope this conversation reminds you that your body already knows the way home. Gabrielle is a Māori Healing practitioner, Counsellor, teacher, writer and space holder devoted to healing, and embodied spiritual remembering. Through her work, Gabrielle weaves Māori healing, counselling, wānanga, body-based wisdom, whakapapa, intuitive practice and sacred reflection. Her teaching style is gentle, grounded and spacious, inviting people to learn not only through the mind, but through the body, the wairua, the heart and the unseen. In this season of life and practice, Gabrielle is exploring new ways of teaching, creating and living with more softness, presence and play. She has also recently become a fur-Mum to Luma, her Groodle, who is bringing a lot of movement, laughter, patience and new energy into her everyday life. Gabrielle holds all healing spaces as sacred moments for those who feel called to deepen their relationship with their own inner knowing. Her intention is to support each person to listen more deeply, remember what is already woven within them, and walk this work with respect, tenderness and courage. Website: www.tirohanga.com.au  Next wānanga ~ training is a retreat in Balingup: https://tirohanga.com.au/balingup/  Perth October wānanga: https://tirohanga.com.au/akotorowhanui/ Before you go, I have something really special to share with you. The Heart Is The Bar is officially open This is the space where I get to go even deeper, where we continue the conversations that don't end when the podcast does. If you're craving to not only know your power but how to also embody it then these 12 weeks are for you. Thank you for being here, and I'll see you in the next episode.

  2. Jul 8

    Episode 46: Melissa Hohaia: Perimenopause, ADHD and the Truth About Our Vagina's.

    For so long, I thought I was just tired. I convinced myself I needed more sleep, more water, more vegetables, or that this was simply what getting older felt like. I had no idea I was experiencing perimenopause. In this episode, I sit down with Naturopath and Women's health coach Melissa Hohaia to have an incredible raw conversation about hormones. We dive into what perimenopause actually is and why so many women end up gas lighting themselves and how understanding your body's unique health blueprint can completely change the way you approach your life. If you've ever wondered why your body suddenly feels different, why you're experiencing brain fog, anxiety, fatigue, or just don't feel like yourself anymore, this conversation is for you. Melissa Hohaia is a Naturopath and coach who is changing the world of healthcare for women - believing that modern medicine gaslights women into unnecessary suffering and dismisses their discomfort. Women deserve better and by offering out-of-the-box solutions, Melissa is able to make a transformational difference. With over 2 decades of experience and multiple qualifications (including a Bachelor of Science degree along with Naturopathy, NLP and emotional coaching certifications), Melissa is a former personal trainer and woman in her mid-40s who is walking the walk. She has helped thousands of women to elevate their health, feel good in their skin and find themselves again in a world that often feels exhausting and overwhelming. Melissa believes that happy healthy women create healthy happy families, which has the power to impact generations to come." All links are below for you to connect with this incredible woman. Website: www.melissahohaia.com Instagram:  melissa.hohaia.naturopath Facebook:  Facebook.com/melissa.hohaia.naturopath Perimenopause Quiz (aka questionnaire) If this conversation resonates with you, I'd love for you to share it with another woman who might need to hear it. Sometimes knowing you're not alone is the beginning of healing. Doors Open to The Heart is the Bar Now. Secure Your Spot here – Pay in Full Secure Your Spot here – Split Payment 12 weeks of learning how to STAY, in your body, boundaries and YOUR beliefs. You matter too babe. Love Jarna xx

  3. Jul 1

    Episode 45: Beth Katherine: Two Women With a Fire to See You Win.

    There was a time when I thought nutrition was simply about eating the "right" foods and it was never about how I wanted to FEEL but it was so tied into how I wanted to LOOK.But the more I've grown, healed, and had conversations with incredible women like Beth, the more I've realized that true nourishment goes so much deeper than what's on my plate. In this episode, I sit down with clinical nutritionist Beth Catherine for a conversation that completely activated the way I FEEL about food, health, and caring for myself again. Today we dive into our relationship with food, the beliefs we inherited growing up, and why so many women have been taught to disconnect from their bodies instead of listening to them. What I loved most about this conversation is that it's not about dieting, restriction, or chasing perfection. It's about understanding what our bodies are asking for, creating sustainable habits, and realizing that nourishment also comes through sleep, nature, movement, community, and giving ourselves permission to slow down and CHOOSE OURSEVLES TOO. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by wellness advice, struggled with your relationship with food, or found yourself constantly putting everyone else's needs before your own, this episode is for you. Below is how you can connect with Beth and also with our incredible Half Day Retreat that we are holding on Saturday the 2nd of August. Tickets are on sale now. Nourished Half Day Retreat - Beth and I are two women with a real fire in our bellies to see you win at life. We promise you the most heartfelt, no b******t morning of connection, laughter, tears and celebration. A day to Rest, Replenish, Receive.  https://www.bethkatherine.com.au/nourished Bloom is a 12-week nutrition program for women who want to feel like themselves again. Built on food as medicine, it moves through three gentle phases, Regulate, Restore, and Embody, to settle your nervous system, rebalance your hormones, and rebuild a way of eating that actually lasts. Weekly live calls, real clinical guidance, recipes, and tools, with deeply human care throughout. The next round begins 4 August 2026. $2499 for the full 12 weeks. https://www.bethkatherine.com.au/bloom Connect with Beth on Instagram here. Join the Waitlist for The Heart is the Bar here, doors open soon. Love Jarna x

  4. Jun 24

    Episode 44: 1 Year In: The Full Truth of Where I Am Really At.

    One Year ago I hit publish on my very first podcast episode. Today I am celebrating 44 Episodes, over 50 hours of content, and a version of myself that wouldn't exist if I hadn't been willing to "Play the Fool" and have a crack. In this episode, I reflect on what podcasting has actually taught me: not just how to speak, coach, and share more confidently, but how to trust myself, publish imperfect work, and keep showing up even when it feels like I'm talking into the void. I also share the moment that cracked something open for me this week. During a Sunday yoga practice, I caught myself abandoning my own experience just to create content. That frustration led to a much bigger realization: the way I've been doing business and marketing has gotten me to here, but it won't get me to where I want to go next. Growth isn't just about doing more, it's about being willing to evolve. The strategies, habits, and identities that helped me create success may not be the same ones that carry me into my next chapter. Sometimes the bravest thing we can do is become a beginner again. If this episode resonated with you, I'd love to hear from you. Your feedback is one of the greatest gifts you can give as I celebrate one year of the podcast. Share your biggest takeaway and let me know how the podcast has impacted your life. 💛 Connect with me on Instagram @JarnaSaunders . Join the Heart Is The Bar waitlist today. Doors are opening soon, and you'll want to be first in line when they do. Don't miss this opportunity to be part of something truly transformative.

  5. Jun 17

    Episode 43: Becoming Insufferable: The Fastest Way to Find Your Worth.

    In this episode, I share a concept that has completely shifted my perspective lately: being "insufferable." After buying a new microphone and joking that I was about to become insufferable, I started reflecting on what that word really means. While the dictionary paints it as something negative, I've come to see it very differently. To me, being insufferable means being unapologetically yourself. It means taking up space, owning your voice, honoring your needs, and refusing to shrink to make other people comfortable. I dive into why so many of us are afraid of being seen as "too much" and how that fear keeps us playing small. Whether it's in our relationships, our work, our parenting, or our dreams, we often silence ourselves to avoid criticism, rejection, or judgment. I also share personal stories about my journey from making bold decisions for myself to showing up visibly online, building my business, and creating the life and relationships I deeply desire. My message is simple: if you want more peace, more joy, more fulfillment, and more alignment in your life, you have to get comfortable with being misunderstood. You have to trust yourself enough to be seen. You are not too much. And maybe the life you're craving is waiting on the other side of becoming a little more "insufferable." If this episode resonates with you, I'd love to hear your biggest takeaway. Come share it with me on Instagram @JarnaSaunders and let's continue the conversation. If you're ready to make a courageous choice and finally do the work, I'd love to support you. Join me inside Tender or through 1:1 Relationship Coaching, and let's begin creating the life, love, and peace you truly deserve. 💛 Your next chapter starts with one brave decision. Let's do this, babe.

  6. Jun 10

    Episode 42: How To Get Out of Your Own Way Once And For All.

    So a guy said "nice slut shorts" and I blocked him and went on with my day. I can do that now because I am so clear on who I am and who I am  it from the mountain of evidence that I have created for myself. I believe confidence isn't something you wake up with one day. It's something you create, it's a muscle you choose to work. In this episode, I'm talking about what it really means to Play the Fool and why discomfort is the door way to PEACE. Most women wait until they feel confident before they speak up, set a boundary, have the hard conversation, or go after what they want. But confidence doesn't come first. Courage does. When you learn to play the fool, you become willing to get it wrong, be seen learning, and take action before you feel ready. And while that matters in business and online, it matters even more at home. In your relationships. In your parenting. In the conversations you've been avoiding. Because when you stop needing the world around you to determine your worth, you become free to show up as the woman you want to be. If this episode resonates with you, I'd love to hear from you. Send me a DM on Instagram @JarnaSaunders and tell me your biggest takeaway. Or if you are ready to make a courageous choice to "do the work" then join me in Tender or Relationship Coaching and let's begin babe.

  7. Jun 3

    Episode 41: You Are Your Social Proof: Your Values Lead the Way.

    This week, I'm recording the podcast from my new studio for the very first time, and honestly, it feels like the perfect setting for the conversation I want to have with you today. It's been one of the biggest weeks I've had in a long time. We opened The Arena, I had the opportunity to speak to a room full of incredible women inside the Academy of the Gentle Sleep Specialist, and through those experiences I was reminded of something that has always been true for me: I absolutely love supporting mothers in business. Not just to make more money, but to build businesses that align with who they are, what they value, and the life they actually want to live. Because here's what I've learned: You are your social proof. Not your testimonials. Not your follower count. Not your perfectly curated content. You. The way you live. The standards you hold. The boundaries you honour. The courage you have to choose what matters most. In this episode, I'm sharing why I believe your personal values need to come before your business values and why so many women unknowingly build businesses that pull them away from the very things they care about most. My Biggest Reminder For You. Your business is a vehicle for your life - not the other way around. When you know what matters most to you and have the courage to live by those values, your business becomes an extension of your integrity. Selling becomes easier because you're living what you're teaching. Decisions become clearer because you're no longer chasing someone else's version of success. And trust grows because people can feel the congruence between what you say and how you live. Because at the end of the day, you are your social proof. Love Jarna xx  ✨ If this episode resonated with you, I'd love to hear from you. Come connect with me on Instagram at @JarnaSaunders, where I share more insights on mindset, motherhood, business, and living in alignment with your values. You can also explore my coaching programs, courses, and current offers at jarnasaunders.com.

  8. May 27

    Episode 40: You Can't "Shame Yourself" to Brave.

    In this episode of Playing The Fool, I’m reflecting on turning 45, entering the next season of life, and the emotional shifts that have come with it. My eldest son has officially moved out of home, and while I’m incredibly happy for him, it’s also brought up so many feelings and new beginnings. I feel like for a while I have been holding my breathe but between turning 45, being five years away from 50, and moving into what numerology calls a “four year,” it honestly feels like "go time". In this episode we talk about the renewed energy I’m feeling around my work, my purpose, and my desire to reach more people with the message and tools that have completely transformed my own life and relationships. I also share a vulnerable story about a recent dentist appointment that triggered one of my biggest fears - needles and dental work -  and the powerful realization that came from it: You cannot shame yourself into courage. This conversation is all about the ways we shame ourselves into trying to become “better,” more confident, more brave, more successful  and why that approach actually disconnects us further from ourselves. If you come to these episodes, nod your head the whole way through with squeals of "Yes Jarna, Yes", then maybe it's time for you and I to work together babe. Whether it’s emotional safety, communication, self-trust, or creating healthier relationships, you don’t have to navigate it alone. Come connect with me on Instagram at @JarnaSaunders or explore my coaching offers at jarnasaunders.com 💌

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Welcome to the PLAYING THE FOOL Podcast, I am your host Jarna Saunders. I am a proud as f**k Life and Relationship Coach and personal development nerd, with a HUGE passion to get every single woman in the arena of their own lives.  I have over 10 years’ experience coaching 100's of women and couples. I've been where you may be right now: for years I sat on the side-lines of my life, stuck in fear, in my head, in the past of that ONE TIME I was put back in my corner and I let it cripple me with fear. That was until one day when the PAIN of staying hidden was too much to take and I made the choice to get my butt in  the ARENA of MY OWN life. To take the risk of looking like a beginner, looking silly and GOD forbid looking like a FOOL. My promise to you is to show up here in all my parts and seasons with my heart proudly on my sleeve, gate keeping nothing but asking us all to WALK OUR GOD DAM ARSES out of the corners we were never born to exist in. Let's Play.

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  • Creator
    Jarna Saunders
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    54
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2026 Playing The Fool
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