Sagas w/Shawn - Gods and Kings

Shawn

“Sagas w/Shawn: Gods and Kings” is an ambitious (and probably doomed) attempt to build a shared world where every god, legendary king, and mythical hero across world history actually coexists.  Hosted by Shawn, this podcast bridges the gap between mythology and history, from Norse sagas and ancient folklore to medieval pseudo-history, global pantheons, and even the lore of fantasy worlds and video games. Expect dry humor, deep dives, and a sincere curiosity about what people believed, why it mattered, and how these stories still shape us today. 

  1. FEB 17

    E13: Odin and Thor – Illusion, Fate, and the Limits of Power (Part II)

    In Part II of our series on Thor, we dive into the story of Utgarða-Loki and the two versions of Thor’s fishing trip, uncovering more of the limits of the mighty god. Specifically, the limits of the very things he claims to be best at. He may confidently declare, "“I drink and I kill things.” Tyrion Lannister I mean, Thor the Charioteer". But as it turns out, that résumé does not guarantee unlimited success in either category. Even gods run into walls when the forces of nature decide to push back. Across these stories, Thor appears to be learning how to approach the obstacles in his life. That is, if and only if we and by we I mean Shawn ignore the actual chronological order of the myths and pretend this is intentional character development. (Please pay no attention to the man behind the curtain). We see disguises. We see subtle moments of empathy. We see losses that are not quite losses. And we see Thor come dangerously close to bending the will of nature and fate itself, though not quite breaking it. Strength alone does not rewrite reality, but it can certainly shake it. Shawn also insists on forcing a discussion of The Matrix and the book of Exodus in what can only be described as a bold attempt to connect Hymisvitha to both bullet-time philosophy and the plagues of Egypt. This may result in eye rolls. But in his probable accidental blasphemy at least he is trying his best. Sources Used: The Poetic Edda (Hackett Publishing), translated by Jackson CrawfordThe Prose Edda (Penguin Classics)Holy Bible (King James Version)Hversu Noregr byggdist, translated by George HardmanFollow on IG:  https://www.instagram.com/sagaswshawn/?next=%2F Follow on YT:  https://www.youtube.com/@SagasWithShawn

    40 min
  2. JAN 22

    E12: Odin and Thor – Power, Humiliation, and the Making of a God (Part I)

    In this episode, we follow Thor across a string of myths that repeatedly undermine the idea that strength alone is all he needs in life. We start with Odin and Thor trading insults (though completely 1 sided), where Thor learns that brute force does not win every contest, especially when language and experience are involved. From there, we see Thor used as a blunt instrument against giants, praised for his power but quietly limited by it, while Odin (BY MY SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATION FOR FUNZIES) plays the long game of legacy, foresight, and survival in a world he knows he will not outlast.  We end with Þrymskviða, where yet another giant wants to marry Freya, Thor wants his hammer back, and there is a solution that Thor absolutely hates for reasons he insists are very serious and not at all about vibes. Disguised as a bride, Thor proves that wearing a dress does not reduce his strength, but it does trigger a deep concern about perception, reputation, and what the comment section is going to say. The violence that follows has nothing to do with clothing and everything to do with humiliation and fragile pride. Thor does not lose his power in a dress, but he clearly worries about losing his image, his brand, and possibly a few followers on Asgardian Instagram. We close by setting up Part II with the story of Utgarða-Loki, where Thor’s limits are tested even further, because being the strongest god alive still does not protect you from being completely outplayed.  Sources Used: The Poetic Edda (Hackett Publishing) - translations by Jackson CrawfordThe Prose Edda: Norse Mythology (Penguin Classics)"The Hobbit" - JRR TolkienFollow on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sagaswshawn/?next=%2F Follow on YT - https://www.youtube.com/@SagasWithShawn

    36 min
  3. 11/20/2025

    E10: Riddles in Asgard and Middle Earth - Odin, Bilbo Baggins, and the Games of "Wisdom"

    In this episode, Shawn, still pretending he is an early teenager in 2001 pretending he would fit just right in with the fellowship of the ring, once again dives into Middle-Earth to talk about Bilbo Baggins, and his riddle contest in the dark with the creature Gollum resulting in him bearing the one ring, but NOT before Shawn goes over 2 similar situations with the god Odin, who also gets into a contest of riddles.  The funny thing is that both Bilbo and Odin win their riddle contests without actually stumping their opponents with riddles (wtf). They both walk away with the “W” thanks to a gap in the rulebook, the kind of gap that basically lets someone shrug and say, “Well, nobody said I couldn’t.” Odin exploits the loophole on purpose, while Bilbo does it through sheer panic, dumb luck, and maybe a subtle shove from a cursed piece of jewelry that really, really wants to get out of the caves under the Misty Mountains.  Shawn talks about how technicalities and loopholes in the system are often exploited on our world as well. Whether in sports or politics, or our own lives like with "work emails", the latter of which Shawn spends a suspiciously large amount of time discussing as being exploited by humans. Sources Used: The Poetic Edda (Hackett Publishing) - translations by Jackson CrawfordThe Prose Edda: Norse Mythology (Penguin Classics) - translations by Jesse ByockThe Saga of Hervor and Heidrik (Hackett Publishing) - translations by Jackson Crawford"The Hobbit" - JRR TolkienFollow on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sagaswshawn/?next=%2F Follow on Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@sagaswshawn Follow on YT - https://www.youtube.com/@SagasWithShawn

    38 min
  4. 10/28/2025

    E8: The Legacy of the All-Father VI - Odin, Jesus, and the Merovingian Kings of France

    In this episode, Shawn discusses the mythic origins of the Merovingians, in one part using their very loose parallels to the Volsungs (Sigeberht/Sigurd and Brunhilda/Brynhild), in an effort to link them to Odin. Whether the Merovingians or Volsungs, their habits of killing their in-laws would make for a hilarious 90s sitcom Shawn also discusses another figure with Merovingian Blood, that descends from the All-Father, namely Eadbald of Kent, so adding the early kingdoms of Frankia totally holds true to this series on Odin's descendants ;). In an effort to remain relevant, Shawn dives in to a more recent story in pop-culture when he discusses the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", which highlights very fuzzy evidence that the Merovingians are descended from a certain man born in Bethlehem, because one god in the family isn't enough for them apparently. Sources Used: The Prose Edda: Norse Mythology (Penguin Classics)The Saga of the Volsungs: With the Saga of Ragnar Lothbrok (Hackett Classics)The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle (Pantianos Classics)The Ecclesiastical History of the English People - Bede (Oxford University Press)The History of the Franks - Gregory or Tours (Project Gutenberg)Holy Blood, Holy Grail - Henry Lincoln, Michael Baigent, and Richard LeighFollow on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sagaswshawn/?next=%2F Follow on Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@sagaswshawn Follow on YT - https://www.youtube.com/@SagasWithShawn

    51 min
  5. 10/07/2025

    E7: Ivar the Wide-Fathom: The Serpent Who Conquered Too Much

    Before Ragnar Lodbrok and his sons set out to conquer the Viking world, there was Ivar the Wide Fathom, Ragnar's great-great-grandfather who decided that one kingdom simply was not enough. In this episode, Shawn explores how Ivar toppled (well, sort of) two of the most powerful dynasties in Norse legend, the Ynglings of Sweden and the Skjoldungs of Denmark, drawing from the Ynglinga Saga, Saga of Hervor and Heidrik, Hversu Noregr Byggdist, and Sögubrot af fornkonungum. Through these overlapping and often contradictory sources, Shawn traces how Ivar’s ambition laid the foundations for the royal lines that would lead to Ragnar Lodbrok and the historical kingdoms of Scandinavia. Between family feuds, long-lived foster fathers, and the occasional dragon dream, Ivar’s story walks the line between myth and history. Compared to the Midgard Serpent itself, his ambition grew so vast it may have swallowed its own tail, and Shawn reflects on how, like Ivar, we often chase our goals until we forget why we started in the first place. Sources Used: Heimskringla or The Lives of the Norse Kings (Dover Publications)- Translated with the assistance of A.H. SmithThe Poetic Edda (Hackett Publishing) - Translations by Jackson CrawfordHversu Noregr Byggdist (How Norway Was Settled) - Translated by George HardmanSögubrot af nokkrum fornkonungumFollow on IG - https://www.instagram.com/sagaswshawn/?next=%2F Follow on Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@sagaswshawn Follow on YT - https://www.youtube.com/@SagasWithShawn

    28 min

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“Sagas w/Shawn: Gods and Kings” is an ambitious (and probably doomed) attempt to build a shared world where every god, legendary king, and mythical hero across world history actually coexists.  Hosted by Shawn, this podcast bridges the gap between mythology and history, from Norse sagas and ancient folklore to medieval pseudo-history, global pantheons, and even the lore of fantasy worlds and video games. Expect dry humor, deep dives, and a sincere curiosity about what people believed, why it mattered, and how these stories still shape us today. 

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