UnDocked: The Maritime Transformation Show

Raal Harris and Nick Chubb

Undocked is a weekly podcast where Nick Chubb and Raal Harris explore what’s changing in maritime and technology. Through candid conversations and guest interviews, the show unpacks emerging trends, overlooked stories, and strategic insights, offering a fresh, unfiltered perspective on the evolving future of one of the world’s oldest industries.

  1. 6D AGO

    AI ROI Illusions, SaaS Under Pressure & The New Maritime Geopolitics

    Episode Show Notes:  Nick shares a secret squirrel message from an executive post corporate Microsoft Copilot rollout – $1.4 million spent, almost no usage, and a board satisfied by a graph trending “up and to the right.” Nick and Raal debate whether it’s genuine or sharply observed satire, which sets the tone for a wider discussion about AI adoption theatre versus measurable operational impact.  Raal reflects on his own Copilot frustrations and the broader issue: boards mandating “AI adoption” without defining outcomes. They examine hallucinations, agentic AI, and the growing temptation to delegate higher-order decision-making to systems whose workings are increasingly opaque. The core tension: productivity claims versus verification and control. The conversation then shifts to economics and disrupting business models as a LinkedIn post reveals a $50,000 monthly AI compute bill that sparks the deeper question, does AI break the SaaS model? If margins are eroded, scalability is undermined and the structural shift could reshape how maritime software is priced and sold. From there, the lens widens. Jeff Bezos’ $6.2 billion AI-industrial venture, Project Prometheus, and Elon Musk’s consolidation of AI, satellites, and space-based data centres suggest that infrastructure control – not just applications – is becoming strategic. For maritime, the implications sit at the intersection of connectivity, compute, and geopolitics. Finally, the discussion returns firmly to shipping. Wind propulsion formally enters the IMO’s draft safety framework, signalling institutional momentum. Meanwhile, the rise of fraudulent flag registries. As regulatory pressure increases, so too does the ingenuity of evasion. Chapters: 01:21 The Copilot “digital transformation” satire 06:20 Copilot vs ChatGPT and measuring AI ROI 21:32 SaaS economics under AI compute pressure 22:47 Bezos’ Project Prometheus and industrial AI 31:55 Musk, space-based AI infrastructure, and valuation games 44:22 Wind propulsion enters IMO safety framework 52:38 Fraudulent flags and phantom registries

    54 min
  2. FEB 5

    Hafnia: Modern Tanker Shipping with Mikael Skov

    Nick and Raal sit down with Mikael Skov, CEO of Hafnia and one of the most influential individuals in modern tanker shipping. Mikael outlines Hafnia’s evolution into one of the world’s largest product tanker operators, grounded in spot market exposure and global trading. He reflects on entering shipping by chance, why it quickly becomes a lifestyle, and how cycles hardwire behaviour, risk tolerance, and leadership mindset. The conversation moves to Hafnia’s post–financial crisis founding, the non-negotiable importance of assembling a credible team early, and what changes when you build alongside professional investors. Attention turns to growth, consolidation, and recent strategic moves, including the TORM stake, and counter-cyclical fleet investments. Skov discusses energy transition pragmatically, emphasising alignment with cargo owners, longer-term contracts, and learning through initiatives like Seascale Energy. The episode closes with leadership and responsibility: managing volatility without paralysis, creating space for innovation inside large organisations, confronting the systemic risks of the dark fleet, and defending international regulation as the least-worst framework available in a fractured geopolitical world. A rare conversation with one of shipping’s most consequential operators who has built scale through cycles, stayed disciplined when others chased narratives, and is clear-eyed about what actually works in shipping. Chapters 02:21 Entering shipping and why it becomes a lifestyle 06:13 Cyclicality, spot markets, and competitive advantage 07:56 Founding Hafnia after TORM 09:31 Building a credible founding team for investors 13:36 Timing the cycle and learning capital discipline 20:47 Pooling, partnerships, and commercial scale 31:03 Culture, governance, and growing a global organisation 37:40 Buying ships at the bottom of the cycle 41:12 TORM stake and consolidation logic 44:06 Energy transition strategy and client alignment 57:07 Long-term thinking versus quarterly markets 1:01:38 Volatility, fleet age, and future supply

    1h 5m
  3. JAN 29

    Seafarer Abandonment, Industry Standards and a How-To for Start-ups Pondering 2026 Maritime Events

    In this episode, Raal and Nick turn to a sobering ITF report showing seafarer and vessel abandonment at its worst-ever levels. They unpack what abandonment actually means in practice, why Indian seafarers are disproportionately affected, and how ownership structures, sanctions, and flags of convenience leave crews with little protection or recourse. From there, the discussion broadens to transparency, data, and trust: why individual seafarers struggle to assess operator risk, how fragmented information limits accountability, and why even well-intentioned standards struggle to reach those most exposed. The conversation then pivots to the International Standards Organisation, illustrating how conformance standards quietly underpin global trade, from containers and currencies to unexpected examples like tea preparation. The episode closes with a pragmatic look at modern shipping realities: USB sticks still moving critical vessel data, the absence of shared operational standards, and practical advice on navigating the 2026 maritime events calendar, including how to minimise chance, maximise learning, and extract real value from industry gatherings. 01:45 ITF data and the scale of seafarer abandonment14:50 Flags of convenience and structural incentives20:59 Why standards matter in global trade26:18 ISO standards, from containers to tea39:12 USB sticks, bay plans, and broken data exchange43:00 Maritime events calendar for 2026This episode is brought to you by Fortec. In a digital bridge environment, visibility is critical to safety and performance. Fortec’s N-Line maritime monitors are engineered for clarity across all lighting conditions, with DNV certification and global trust. Find out more here.

    56 min
  4. JAN 23

    Geopolitical Volatility, AI in Safety & Alternative Energy in Future Fleets

    In this episode, Raal Harris and Nick Chubb look back on the dramatic turn of the last two week’s events and ask what rupture in the global rules based order could mean for shipping. They discuss how geopolitical volatility and tariffs are reshaping trade routes and operational risk, why global shipping has become harder to plan and manage. They discuss the need for energy security and the potential role of nuclear power with LR’s announcement of their UK Nuclear Consortium  and how a move to nuclear propulsion could transform shipping. They also spotlight the announcement of the biggest ever battery powered vessel set to go into service and the wider impact battery powered ships could make in world trade. The conversation then turns to Lomar shipping’s strategic pilot with AI start up Signal Fusion designed to aid predictive behavioural intelligence in maritime operations. They discuss how this could be an enabler for a human factors approach and whether AI could play a role in safety and decision-making, and why engaging crews is critical to safer operations.  Chapters 01:39 Global Shipping Landscape and Geopolitical Volatility 09:44 Impact of Tariffs and Uncertainty on Shipping 14:25 The Future of NATO and Global Trade 17:27 Energy Security and Nuclear Shipping Innovations 25:29 Battery-Powered Ships and Their Potential 28:21 Decarbonisation in Australia: A Pioneer Approach 31:49 Navigating Risks in Battery Technology 34:28 Human Factors in Maritime Operations 40:22 AI and Human Performance in Shipping 53:43 Engagement and Feedback in Maritime Safety

    55 min
  5. JAN 15

    Building Scale, Bridging Siloes & Backing Innovation with Tabitha Logan

    Tabitha Logan shares her journey from lawyer to becoming a leading voice in the maritime industry, as Project Director for ship owner-operator Cetus Maritime and as co-founder of The Captain’s Table the global pitch competition and venture platform for maritime startups. Tabitha shares her perspective on the challenges and opportunities in global shipping, the importance of mergers and acquisitions to build scale and capacity, the significance of digital transformation, and the role of branding in successful mergers. Tabitha also shares her passion for supporting startups, gives tips on what investors are looking for and  emphasises the need for innovation and sustainability in the maritime sector. Finally she shares her advice to those aspiring to a fulfilling career in the industry.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Tabitha Logan and Her Journey 04:39 Cetus Maritime: Mergers and Acquisitions Overview 18:02 The Importance of Digital Integration in M&A 30:47 Navigating Diverse Roles in Maritime Operations 36:02 Bridging Silos: The Importance of Collaboration 39:08 Sustainability in Shipping: A Progressive Outlook 41:06 The Captain's Table: Fostering Innovation in Maritime 48:08 Identifying Winning Solutions: Trends and Insights 53:05 Balancing Innovation and Operations in Shipping This video was brought to you by Fortec UK. Fortec’s marine-grade panel mount displays deliver stable power handling, IEC 60945 compliance, and proven reliability, supporting safe, efficient operations across newbuild and retrofit vessel environments.Visit the full product range at Fortec.uk.

    1h 6m

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Undocked is a weekly podcast where Nick Chubb and Raal Harris explore what’s changing in maritime and technology. Through candid conversations and guest interviews, the show unpacks emerging trends, overlooked stories, and strategic insights, offering a fresh, unfiltered perspective on the evolving future of one of the world’s oldest industries.