Industrial Strength Podcast

Industrial Strength Podcast

A podcast more focused on industrial fire departments and industrial hazmat response. From discussing interesting calls, to talking about equipment, to touching on distinctly corporate aspects of the job, the Industrial Strength team delves into different aspects of working within an industrial hazmat team. Through these podcasts the team endeavors to shed more light on what’s often an overlooked part of the public safety sector for other industry insiders as well as visitors from municipal teams.

  1. JAN 22

    IS031: Storage Containers | Part II

    Episode Overview In this episode of Hazmat Harder, Randy, Jeff, and Steve continue their series on “containers that look like drums but aren’t.” The focus is on methyl iodide, an extremely hazardous chemical shipped in keg-style stainless steel containers with keyed, closed-loop dry-break valve systems. The team explains the chemistry behind methyl iodide, why these specialty containers exist, and how gasket failures, proprietary tools, and human error can escalate into serious hazmat events—including a real-world Level A suit over-pressurization incident handled live during response. Segment Breakdown & Detailed Timestamps 00:27 – 01:02 | Welcome & Introductions • Randy introduces the show and hosts • Team background and industrial hazmat experience 01:03 – 01:27 | Continuing the Container Imposters Series • Recap of prior episode • Introduction to “drums that aren’t drums” 01:28 – 02:32 | Methyl Iodide Packaging Overview • Overpack drum vs internal keg-style container • Visual comparison to beer kegs • Why responders may misidentify the container 02:46 – 05:45 | What Is Methyl Iodide? • Highly toxic, mutagenic, corrosive compound • Alkylates DNA with no antidote • Colorless liquid that darkens with light exposure • Converts to hydroiodic acid upon contact with moisture • Exposure risks: inhalation, absorption, ingestion • Rapid narcosis and vapor hazards 05:57 – 07:26 | Closed-Loop Dry-Break Coupler System • MAV closed-loop transfer design • Nitrogen inerting to prevent ignition • Dip tube discharge into large process vessels • Eliminating oxygen from the system 07:27 – 08:47 | Keyed Connections Explained • Comparison to beer keg taps • Why methyl iodide connections are chemically keyed • Prevention of cross-contamination • Dedicated upper and lower valve system 09:26 – 11:25 | Container Construction & Valve Design • Stainless steel keg (33 L and 50 L options) • Optional polyurethane coating • Integrated microvalve system • Lower valve factory-installed • Upper valve retained by end user as engineering control 11:26 – 13:44 | Gaskets, Compatibility & Dry-Close Performance • Importance of gasket material compatibility (MOC) • Swelling and degradation risks • Dry-close system leaves 1 mL of residue • Comparison to Epsilon-style valves 13:45 – 16:53 | Failure Scenario: Gasket Roll-Out • Gasket swelling prevents valve reseating • Open venting methyl iodide • Failed attempts to reseat valve • Vapor migration to lower floors • Facility isolation and atmospheric monitoring 17:08 – 18:37 | Vendor Recommendation: Hot Swap • Vendor advises live valve replacement • Existence of documented hot-swap procedure • Team concerns about normalized failure 18:38 – 21:45 | Specialty Tool Nightmare • Discovery of proprietary valve-removal tool • Three-week lead time to obtain • Tool damaged by excessive force • Second three-week delay • Vendor removed; in-house team resolves issue 22:40 – 24:36 | Key Lessons Learned • Keg-style containers require dedicated tooling • Tools should be onsite—not discovered during emergencies • Specialty vendors are not always safer or better • Frequency of use matters when planning response readiness 24:37 – 29:19 | Level A Suit Over-Inflation Incident • Suit fails to exhaust air • “Michelin Man” effect from pressure buildup • Ear pain and suit integrity risk • RIT team intervention using trauma shears • Emergency suit venting, taping, decon • Root cause: exhaust valve reinstalled backwards during inspection 29:34 – 31:02 | Wrap-Up & Listener Engagement • Importance of RIT teams and adaptability • Invitation for listener stories: o Specialty container tools o Suit malfunctions o Vendor failures 31:03 – 32:11 | Contact Info & Teaser • Email and podcast engagement options • Preview of next episode: more specialty containers Contact the team: • hazmetharder@gmail.com • industrialstrength@thehazmatguys.com Stay safe. Stay sharp. Hazmat Harder.

    32 min
  2. IS030: Storage Containers | Part I

    JAN 5

    IS030: Storage Containers | Part I

    Episode Overview This episode kicks off a new mini-series on storage containers, starting with a deep dive into totes / Intermediate Bulk Containers (IBCs). The crew breaks down common tote materials, failure points, and operational risks, then walks through real-world case studies involving ultra containers and chemical reactions. Blending technical insight with field stories and humor, the episode focuses on how everyday handling decisions can quickly turn into hazmat responses.   Segment Breakdown & Timestamps 0:00–1:35 — Welcome & Mini-Series Introduction The hosts introduce the new mini-series on storage containers, explaining that Part 1 focuses specifically on totes commonly used in industrial environments. 1:36–2:43 — What Totes Are Made Of Discussion of common tote construction materials, including: High-density polyethyleneCarbon steelStainless steelHybrid designs Material selection depends on chemical compatibility, storage duration, and environmental conditions.2:44–4:37 — Common Tote Failure Points The crew outlines frequent causes of tote failures: Damaged seals and faulty drain valvesForklift impacts and structural damageImproper venting and pressure buildupUV degradation from outdoor storageImproper stacking and heat exposure4:38–5:31 — Drain Valves: A Frequent Weak Link Focus on drain valve failures caused by wear, tear, and non-manufacturer replacement parts—often a primary source of leaks. 5:32–9:35 — Ultra Containers Overview An in-depth look at ultra containers, including: Cylindrical internal tanks for complete drainingProtective plastic superstructuresHigher pressure-rated capsAbility to handle higher specific gravity materialsLifting lugs that allow hoisting instead of forklifts9:36–11:01 — Why Ultra Containers Still Create Hazmat Calls Despite their advantages, ultra containers can still fail, leading to hazmat team activations and complex mitigation decisions. Case Studies 11:02–17:53 — Case Study 1: Tipped Ultra Container with Bleach A delivery error leads to an ultra container of high-strength sodium hypochlorite tipping off a loading dock: Hydraulic pressure damages the pressure relief capProduct leaks while the container is invertedStability and responder safety become primary concernsMitigation involved controlled lifting with a chain fall and cap replacement18:29–22:55 — Case Study 2: Contamination & Exothermic Reaction An ultra container begins heating and streaking due to contamination: Brown residue traced to iron oxidationExothermic reaction caused by iron contamination inside bleachDefensive monitoring with a thermal imaging cameraContainer ultimately removed from service23:15–28:45 — Case Study 3: Muriatic Acid Vapor Release A partial tote of high-strength muriatic acid releases visible vapors: Faulty pressure relief device allowed continuous ventingDecision made to temporarily plug the device rather than replace the toteResponse tailored to short-term use and limited movement

    33 min
  3. IS029: Iron Strengthens Iron | Part III

    12/22/2025

    IS029: Iron Strengthens Iron | Part III

    Episode Overview In Part 3 of the training series, the Industrial Strength Podcast crew shifts focus from internal and partner-based training to a frequently overlooked resource: educational institutions. From community colleges to major universities and regional training centers, the team breaks down how industrial and non-municipal responders can access high-quality hazmat, fire, leadership, and incident management training—often without building it all in-house. The episode blends practical advice, regional examples, and the crew’s usual humor to help responders expand their training toolbox.   Segment Breakdown & Timestamps 0:00–1:17 — Welcome & Series Context The hosts set the stage, explaining this is Part 3 of their training discussion series, following episodes on internal team training and external partner training. 1:18–2:21 — Why Educational Institutions Matter They introduce the idea that colleges, universities, and state programs often provide excellent responder training that many industrial teams don’t realize is available. 2:22–3:19 — Beyond Technician Skills: Leadership & Officer Development Discussion shifts to leadership gaps: where industrial officers, supervisors, and team leaders can find structured leadership and management education. 3:20–5:27 — Community Colleges as Hazmat Training Hubs The team talks about community colleges offering 40-hour HAZWOPER, refresher courses, fire brigade classes, and leadership training—often with minimal administrative burden for departments. 5:28–6:23 — Large Universities & Advanced Offerings Examples include major universities providing not only HAZWOPER but also environmental management and supervisory-level hazmat courses, especially useful for large or complex incidents. 6:24–7:49 — Regional Differences in Training Availability They note how training resources tend to cluster regionally, with strong offerings on the East Coast and around industrial hubs. 7:50–10:13 — Major Training Centers (Texas Focus) A deep dive into large-scale responder training centers that offer the full spectrum: awareness, ops, tech, command, chemistry, transportation emergencies, pipelines, and oil spill response. 10:14–11:34 — Specialized & Advanced Hazmat Programs The hosts discuss advanced schools focused on air monitoring, decontamination techniques, and incident management, and what “advanced” really means for experienced teams. 11:35–13:21 — Midwest Regional Training Centers Attention turns to large Midwest institutions that deliver hazmat, fire, medical, and specialty training—sometimes even bringing courses directly to departments. 13:22–15:17 — Accessibility for Industrial Responders A key point: many of these programs accept industrial credentials, not just municipal IDs, opening doors for private-sector responders. 15:18–16:26 — DOT & Regulatory-Focused Training They highlight more niche offerings like DOT hazmat regulations workshops, which use collaborative, discussion-based learning instead of lecture-heavy formats. 16:27–17:39 — Identifying Training Gaps The crew emphasizes evaluating your team honestly: where are the weak spots, and can outside educational programs fill those gaps better than internal training alone? 17:40–18:42 — Funding, FEMA, and Grants They discuss FEMA grants and FEMA-provided training, including both in-person and online options that can offset cost and travel barriers. 18:43–22:28 — Online Training & Closing Thoughts The episode wraps with a look at online college courses and virtual training, acknowledging their convenience while balancing the value of hands-on learning—plus plenty of banter to close things out.

    33 min
  4. IS028: Iron Strengthens Iron | Part II

    12/08/2025

    IS028: Iron Strengthens Iron | Part II

    Episode Overview In this part two episode of the Industrial Strength Hazmat Show, Steve, Jeff, and Randy dive deep into the value of external training for industrial hazmat teams. Building on the internal training conversation from part one, the trio explores how partnerships with municipal, regional, and military units, as well as external organizations and vendors, enhance response capabilities, create networking opportunities, and improve access to specialized gear and knowledge.   Segment Breakdown & Timestamps 0:31 – 1:48 | Intro and Recap Hosts introduce themselves and recap part one of the training discussion.Steve tees up the focus on external training.1:49 – 4:00 | Internal vs. External Training Philosophy Differences between municipal (NFPA) and industrial (OSHA) training standards.Importance of exceeding minimum requirements and collaborating with external departments.4:01 – 6:51 | Challenges and Limitations with Mutual Aid Discussion on the limited value of relying on volunteer/on-call departments due to response delays.Internal teams often resolve incidents before external help arrives.6:52 – 10:14 | Benefits of Joint Training Scenarios Advantages of inviting municipal teams to regular hands-on training.Emphasis on networking and operational familiarity.Equipment sharing and learning from other teams’ strategies.10:15 – 13:27 | Regional Response Teams and Their Role Structure and limitations of metro or regional hazmat teams.Response delays and integration with industrial teams.13:28 – 16:36 | Industrial Teams on Regional Rosters Unique ability for industrial team members to join regional teams.Highlighting the high number of trained technicians on their team.16:37 – 20:08 | Military and National Guard Hazmat Resources Military units as top-tier partners in training and gear.Regional and federal training opportunities, like Shut Up and Train and FOOLS.20:09 – 24:17 | Conferences & Vendor Networking State, national, and federal hazmat training conferences.Learning opportunities and gear discoveries (e.g., magnesium handling).24:18 – 27:00 | The Power of Informal Networking After-hours conversations as fertile ground for innovation.Example of how this show itself was born from informal discussions.27:01 – 29:01 | Wrapping Up and Looking Ahead Tease for part three of the training series.Invitation for listeners to be guests on future episodes.Contact methods shared.  Guest & Host Info Hosts: Steve – Hazmat technician with deep experience in industrial response.Jeff – Veteran hazmat technician with a technical and practical mindset.Randy – 18-year hazmat and fire veteran, juggling multiple specializations (fire, medical, confined space).

    29 min
  5. IS027: Iron Strengthens Iron | Part I

    11/24/2025

    IS027: Iron Strengthens Iron | Part I

    Episode Overview In this episode of Hazmat Heart, hosts Steve, Randy, and Jeff dive deep into one of the most crucial topics for any hazmat team—training. Drawing from their rich backgrounds in industrial hazmat response, the trio explores how effective training is structured, the standards that guide it, and how teams can go beyond mere compliance to achieve true proficiency. Whether you’re new to training or leading an experienced team, this episode is packed with insights and strategies to level up your program.   Segment Breakdown & Timestamps 00:00 - 01:19 | Welcome & Episode Setup Introductions from Steve, Randy, and Jeff.Introduction to the episode’s focus: crafting effective industrial hazmat training.01:20 - 04:49 | The Importance of Training & OSHA 1910.120 Discussion on why training deserves its own episode.Overview of OSHA 1910.120 (HAZWOPER) training requirements.Training frequency: compliance vs. proficiency.04:50 - 08:53 | Training Levels: Awareness, Operations, Technician, Specialist Exploring training levels: Awareness, Ops, Tech, and Specialist.Differences in training hours across states (e.g., NY requiring 120 hours).The pros and cons of training everyone to technician level.08:54 - 12:27 | Site Practices & Training Frequency How their site structures training: quarterly, 8-hour sessions (32 hours/year).The minimum participation requirement (75% attendance).Creative approaches: Hazmat Olympics for engaging hands-on learning.12:28 - 15:03 | Training Design & Recordkeeping Planning, feedback, and not repeating the same drills.Importance of training records for audits and evaluations.15:04 - 19:45 | The Role of the Trainers Jeff, Randy, and Steve share their role as trainers on top of full-time jobs.Planning training up to a year in advance.Organizational support and constraints.19:46 - 25:04 | Medical Requirements & Fit Testing Discussion on physicals, pulmonary tests, and annual medical evaluations.Fit testing and respiratory health monitoring.25:05 - 28:16 | Final Thoughts & Contact Info Acknowledgement that this is just part one of the conversation.Tease for part two and encouragement to explore OSHA 1910.120.Ways to contact the team via Apple Podcasts, YouTube, email, or the website. Key Moments & Quotes “There’s compliance, and then there’s proficiency.” – A recurring theme throughout the episode highlighting the difference between doing the minimum and doing it right.“Eight hours a year doesn’t sit well with me.” – Randy shares his thoughts on how inadequate minimal compliance training can be.Hazmat Olympics – A creative and effective way to make training more engaging and fun.  Guest Information Steve – Hazmat Technician with 4+ years in industrial response.Randy – Hazmat Specialist with 18 years in industrial firefighting and hazmat.Jeff – Co-host and fellow hazmat trainer with deep operational insight.  Have feedback, questions, or want to share how your team approaches training? Email: hazmatharder@gmail.com Website: hazmatharder.com Leave a comment on Apple Podcasts or YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and stay tuned for Part 2 of this critical training discussion!

    28 min
  6. IS026: Steve Kelly

    11/17/2025

    IS026: Steve Kelly

    In this high-stakes episode of Hazmat Harder, the team sits down with Steve Kelly, a seasoned hazmat specialist from New York with 22 years of experience in the semiconductor industry. The crew dives into dangerous chemical responses, energetic materials, and PPE challenges in environments filled with pyrophoric and corrosive substances. With vivid war stories, technical deep-dives, and mutual appreciation for hazmat chaos, this episode delivers a masterclass in industrial incident response. Segment Breakdown & Timestamps [0:00 - 1:32] Introductions & BanterHosts Steve, Randy, and Jeff kick things offGuest introduction: Steve Kelly from New York[1:33 - 3:10] Steve's Background22-year career in industrial hazmat and firefightingTransition into semiconductor safety and hazmat education[3:11 - 5:13] Department DynamicsDiscussing shift size, department resources, and volunteer support models[5:14 - 9:42] Pyrophoric Explosion IncidentBreakdown of a severe chemical incident involving exotic compoundsDetailed response strategy, glove layering, and SDS researchPost-incident cleanup complications and learning curve[9:43 - 13:16] Chemistry Behind the BlastDiscussion of trichlorosilane, diborane, and germaniumEnergetic materials, covalent bond separation, and reaction heatEngineering adjustments post-incident[13:17 - 14:51] Runaway Manganese ChemistryHosts share a past incident with manganese dioxide and acetoneUnintended oxidation state change leads to fireball[14:52 - 17:26] PPE Strategy & CleanupGear usage from Tyvek suits to full encapsulationUsing cleaning contractors vs. internal responseConservative cleanup methods and material disposal[17:27 - 20:22] Pipe Fire & Air Purge FailureAnother flash fire incident from poor purgingFire traveled down piping, blew check valve, flung scrap metal[20:23 - 24:31] Air Monitoring EquipmentUse of halogen meters, multirays, PIDs, and Draeger tubesSensor issues, maintenance tips, dry storage strategiesIntroduction to Honeywell SPM Flex for acid detection[24:32 - 26:25] Acid Mixing & Temperature ControlIn-house etching chemical productionUse of chillers to manage reactive exothermic mixtures[26:26 - 27:31] Mercury Response & Detection ToolsExperiences with mercury, Draeger chips, and legacy equipmentTraining relevance and tool evolution[27:32 - 29:03] Equipment Maintenance & SupportOverview of in-house vs. outsourced maintenanceVendors, bulb life strategies, and calibration frequency[29:04 - 32:21] Community Awareness & Mutual AidTier 2 chemical notificationsInvolving local departments in drills and live trainingCommunity outreach without raising corporate alarms[32:22 - 33:03] Thermal Oxidizer FireMassive exhaust unit ignites during shiftSuccessful CO₂ knockdown, no injuries, full containment[33:04 - 35:47] Wrap-Up & PreviewInvitation for Steve Kelly to returnTease of next episode's focus on mutual aid & training Guest Information Steve Kelly Hazmat Instructor for New York State Fire (Homeland Security)Former industrial firefighter specializing in semiconductor facilitiesPassionate about air monitoring, chemical safety, and live trainingBased in Dutchess & Ulster County, NY

    36 min

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A podcast more focused on industrial fire departments and industrial hazmat response. From discussing interesting calls, to talking about equipment, to touching on distinctly corporate aspects of the job, the Industrial Strength team delves into different aspects of working within an industrial hazmat team. Through these podcasts the team endeavors to shed more light on what’s often an overlooked part of the public safety sector for other industry insiders as well as visitors from municipal teams.

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