It's a Journey - a sustainable travel podcast

Richard Hammond and Holly Tuppen

In conversation with expert guests, Richard Hammond and Holly Tuppen draw on their years of experience in sustainable travel media to tackle the thorny issues and provide practical insights for a more responsible industry. Sponsored by Lemongrass.

Episodes

  1. 1D AGO

    Certification

    Episode 8: Certification – Labels, labels everywhere: To certify, or not to certify?  Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠⁠ Holly and Richard discuss certification, what it is, whether there are too many labels, and whether it’s worth the investment with expert guests Rochelle Turner, Head of Impact EMEA, Intrepid Travel and Kees Jan Boonen, Head of Policy and Government Affairs, Travalyst.  In this episode, we unpack: How EU regulation will soon impact all travel certifications  Whether certification is worth the investment, and whether they are affordable for SMEs  The pros and cons of certification  How the industry could make the certification landscape easier for consumers to navigate   What’s next for the industry and certifications  Quotes from our guests:  Rochelle Turner, “We have big issues in our industry and I think certification is a way that can help companies go on a journey that will make them better. It's not the only way, but it is a way. And if it is done with an independent third party verification that has very strict environmental and social standards that look holistically at what an organization is doing, then I think, yes, think certification can be a way to help companies move towards greater sustainability.” Kees Jan Boonen, “If you talk to travellers, they would like to travel more sustainably. They see a role for certifications here. But a couple of conditions that need to be met. It needs to be clear, needs to be consistent, and it needs to be credible.” Rochelle Turner, “Sometimes (certification) does require a little bit of a shake up and asking yourself some hard questions along the way.” Kees Jan Boonen, “Incoming legislation is setting conditions for the certification schemes to be compliant to install trust. What it does not look at is to what extent certification has maximum impact. So, I think that's a different question and perhaps a next step for us as an industry.” Find out more about our guests in this episode: Kees Jan Boonen on LinkedIn Rochelle Turner on LinkedIn Some useful links to things mentioned in the show: The Empowering Consumers Directive, also known as the Directive on Empowering Consumers for the Green Transition, is a new EU law that came into force in March 2024, with an application date of September 27, 2026. Rochelle authored this report on how being a B Corp has helped Intrepid: Our B Corp Certification Report | Intrepid Travel EU The second iteration of Travalyst’s certification benchmarking was released at the end of Jan 2026. You can read a press release here and more information on Travalyst here.  Read more about Booking.com’s stats and latest opinion on certifications here.  Follow for more: ⁠⁠⁠Holly Tuppen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Richard Hammond⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And helpful information from our sponsors, ⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass PR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It Effectively⁠⁠⁠⁠Economic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It?⁠⁠⁠⁠Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your own⁠⁠⁠⁠Overtourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New Solutions⁠⁠⁠⁠How we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets⁠⁠⁠⁠5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel business⁠⁠== It’s a Journey is a ground-breaking podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by Lemongrass, it tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠

    47 min

  2. FEB 3

    Lemongrass Insights

    Episode 8: It's a Journey podcast sponsor Lemongrass shares insights on the travel trends shaping 2026 A one-off episode where Holly and Richard hear from our sponsor Lemongrass about some of the relevant work it's doing in sustainable travel, including a recent trend report for 2026. Guests are Lemongrass’s founder and CEO Miriam Peternek McCartney and Senior Director of Digital Strategy Tara Schwenk. Lemongrass's Annual Travel Trends Report 2026 Other relevant links from Lemongrass: Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It Effectively⁠ Economic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It?⁠ ⁠Overtourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New Solutions⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your own⁠⁠ How we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets⁠ 5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel business⁠ Follow for more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Richard Hammond⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Holly Tuppen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ == It’s a Journey is a ground-breaking podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by Lemongrass, it tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠⁠

    35 min

  3. JAN 20

    Carbon Talks

    Episode 7: Carbon Talks – Is measuring your carbon emissions a worthwhile investment? Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠⁠ Holly and Richard discuss the benefits, challenges and opportunities for measuring carbon emissions with guests Paul Easto, Founder and Chief Sustainability Officer, Wilderness Group, Nadine Pinto, Head of Sustainability, Touring for The Travel Corporation, and a special appearance from Charlie Cotton, founder of ecollective.  In this latest episode, we unpack: Why travel businesses measure their carbon emissions and whether it leads to action How different businesses approach carbon measurement and pros and cons of those approaches What the investment is in measuring carbon and whether it's worth it Whether consumers care about carbon stats Common mistakes the travel industry makes and how to avoid them A comparison in carbon between a holiday in Scotland and cruise in Antarctica “It is very complicated and everyone's measuring different things at different paces. It's not always apples to apples. So I think that's something we need to work on as an industry to be able to make sure that we can compare.” Nadine Pinto “The frustration for us is how hard it is to actually influence change. But that's where I think it's great the work that Travel Corporation and others are doing. That's what we need to see across the industry… high level of collaboration that allows the supply chain to move on.” Paul Easto “It's not a matter of my calculator measures this, or mine's better than that. But I think it's just making sure that we're transparent on our methodology and our transparency is shared across the industry so that we can make progress.” Nadine Pinto Find out more about our guests in this episode: Paul Easto, Founder and Chief Sustainability Officer, Wilderness Group Nadine Pinto, Head of Sustainability, Touring for The Travel Corporation Charlie Cotton, Founder, ecollective Some useful links to things mentioned in the show: Wilderness’ open source methodology which anyone can access Ballynahinch Hotel with a carbon emissions performance 85% better than the standard emission factors for a 5* hotel in Ireland The Travel Corporation’s Partner Resource Hub A video on what Travalyst is trying to achieve with its Data Hub And helpful links from our sponsors, Lemongrass: Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It Effectively Economic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It? Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your own Overtourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New Solutions How we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets 5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel business Follow for more: ⁠⁠Holly Tuppen⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Richard Hammond⁠⁠⁠⁠ And helpful information from our sponsors, ⁠⁠Lemongrass PR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: ⁠Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It Effectively⁠⁠Economic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It?⁠⁠Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your own⁠⁠Overtourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New Solutions⁠⁠How we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets⁠⁠5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel business⁠== It’s a Journey is a ground-breaking podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by Lemongrass, it tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠

    45 min

  4. JAN 6

    Risk and Regulation

    Episode 6: Risk and Regulation – Is climate a ticking time bomb for those not yet on board? ? Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠⁠ Holly and Richard discuss climate risk and regulation with guests Jeremy Sampson, CEO, The Travel Foundation and Willy Legrand, Professor of Tourism, Hospitality and Event Management at IU International University. In this episode, we unpack: What climate regulation, if any, is coming for the tourism industry How risk associated with climate collapse is making some tourism products and destinations unviable How we could turn demanding systemic challenges into creative and innovative solutions What businesses need to do now to future proof for a changing world The need to rebrand climate action, adaptation and risk to galvanise coordinated action Why we might be getting too distracted by frameworks and certifications "The most durable sustainability shifts probably happen when grassroots momentum creates political permission for smart regulations" Willy Legrand “We’ve got an ‘urgency deficit’ because there are so many distractions, everything overrides the long-term, even in business and even if it’s an existential threat.” Willy Legrand "The biggest risk is that people think that climate change is tomorrow's work, but it's today's risk." Jeremy Sampson  “We are in a pre-regulation phase where there are lots of signals that tourism will have to be regulated.” Jeremy Sampson Find out more about our guests in this episode: Jeremy Sampson, CEO, The Travel Foundation Willy Legrand, Professor of Tourism, Hospitality and Event Management at IU International University Show notes:⁠⁠ Empowering Consumers Directive, also known as the Directive on Empowering Consumers for the Green Transition, is a new EU law that came into force in March 2024, with an application date of September 27, 2026. Economic losses from extreme weather events in 2025 amount to 43 billion Euros, as published in The Guardian. Where next? - Travel Foundation - a new report that sets out a global action agenda for tourism’s climate transition. It outlines four practical, interconnected ideas that would allow tourism to course-correct, at the scale and pace needed, towards climate resilience, economic viability and social equity for destinations worldwide. New Guide to Action on Climate Change - Travel Foundation - a new edition of the report, Destination Stewardship: A Guide to Action on Climate Change, with Destination Wayfinder. It outlines 37 actions and lots of case studies from around the world. Destination RiskScan: Innovation for tourist destinations in a warming world contains info about the Travel Foundation's Destination Climate RiskScan initiative, which aims to help tourism destinations around the world better understand and respond to climate change risks. Follow for more: ⁠Holly Tuppen⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Richard Hammond⁠⁠⁠ And helpful information from our sponsors, ⁠Lemongrass PR⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: Communicating Impact: Why It Matters for Travel Brands and 10 Ways to Communicate It EffectivelyEconomic Leakage In Tourism: What Is It, And What Can Travel Brands Do About It?Our Impact Report – and 6 top tips for doing your ownOvertourism: A Wicked Problem in Need of New SolutionsHow we are reducing our Carbon Emissions with Carbon Budgets5 things we learnt from Carbon Literacy training and how it can help your travel business == It’s a Journey is a ground-breaking podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by Lemongrass, it tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠

    46 min

  5. 12/30/2025

    New Year Special

    Richard and Holly look back at 2025 and discuss what't hot and what's not for the year ahead. Some of the significant developments in 2025 discussed are Intrepid's change to it's Climate Action Plan that Richard thinks will likely reverberate across the industry in 2026, as well as the decision by the office of Rail and Road to grant Virgin Trains access to Temple Mills which could open the door to future international train services. Holly was excited by the launch of Rewilding Europe's travel booking platform WilderPlaces.com, and they discuss the rise in the phenomenon of 'Coolcations' as well as the ongoing issues of overtourism, and that in Hilton's trend report, 'road trips' were identified as one of the stand out themes for 2026. Looking ahead to 2026, Holly is excited to see how Julie Cheetham as the new CEO of Travalyst takes forward its new Data Hub, which launched at the end of 2025, as well as seeing The Travel Foundation's 'Where Next' campaign develop with its hard-hitting themes of climate justice, climate adaptation and risk of the climate crisis. Richard and Holly also discuss some of the exciting new overland routes in Europe, including overnight coach and rail services. For Richard, travel highlights of the year included a visit to Les Arcs, the first B Corps mountain resort in Europe, seeing community-based conservation projects in Saint Lucia, discovering rural life in Gran Canaria and visiting it's neighbouring island El Hierro, and exploring the coast of West Sweden. For Holly, travel highlights included a swimming holidays in Malta, a press trip with Exodus to support the work of Rewilding Apeninnes, and a family holiday in Albania enjoying a 'day in the life of a shepherd' with Undiscovered Balkans. == It’s a Journey is a brand new podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠, the series tackles the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm⁠

    47 min

  6. 08/26/2025

    Community tourism

    Episode 5: Community tourism. What does good community tourism look like and can we measure its benefits? Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠⁠ Holly and Richard discuss the benefits of community tourism and how to measure it, with guests Manisha Pande, Founder and Managing Director of Village Ways and Kelly Galaski, Senior Director, Operations & Head of Impact at Planeterra. In this episode, we unpack: Why some models work better than othersHow to put systems in place to avoid the dangers of tourism in rural areas How to create impact through community rather than for communityHow to establish a constant dialogue to keep generating positive impact for a community How to create an impact measurement and monitoring and evaluation toolHow to monitor the impact of community tourism on an entire village or community How to create replicable community tourism structuresWhy community run and operated tourism can lead to a better guest experience The importance of communities not becoming over reliant on tourism, and how to prevent this happeningThe less expected benefits of community tourism “The success lies in giving the communities collaborative ownership over what they are creating and offering to guests.” Manisha Pande “We did our homework in what would have the best impact and we chose a model that works with an entire village rather than set up homestays.” Manisha Pande “We’ve moved away from the term community-based tourism.” (listen in to find out why) Kelly Galaski “What we’ve created is an impact measuring tool as well as a monitoring and evaluation tool for our team.” Kelly Galaski Find out more about our guests in this episode: Manisha Pande, Founder and Managing Director of Village Ways Kelly Galaski, Senior Director, Operations & Head of Impact at Planeterra Show notes: ⁠Village Ways’ anniversary special  'Kumaon Itinerary', which is available to book from October 2025⁠ Another new Village Ways holiday in Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh called ‘Forests and Fables' IRCT India Network ​ Planeterra 2024 Impact Report Planeterra and Iberostar partnershipPlaneterra’s work with IUCN in Protected Areas An example of Planeterra’s work in urban areas Follow for more: ⁠⁠Lemongrass PR⁠⁠  Holly Tuppen⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Richard Hammond⁠⁠ == It’s a Journey is a brand new podcast series hosted by Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media and Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert. Sponsored by Lemongrass, the first five episodes tackle the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠⁠itsajourney.fm

    43 min

  7. 08/12/2025

    Partnerships for Good

    Episode 4. Partnerships for Good. Are public-private partnerships the best way to accelerate change in the tourism industry? Sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠⁠ Holly and Richard discuss the benefits of public private partnerships with guests Shannon Guihan, Chief Sustainability Officer at The Travel Corporation, Rebecca Armstrong, Head of Impact and Development from The Travel Foundation, Gwen Raez, Strategy Lead at Visit Scotland, and Dr. Anna Spenceley, consultant and Senior Research Fellow with the University of Johannesburg. “We're excited to share this kind of example with other destinations because I think it's a real flagship for the kind of thing you can achieve when you work together.” Rebecca Armstrong “Other destinations are now approaching us because they’re so inspired by this work… and for me, that's frankly far more impactful than any one single travellers choice.” Shannon Guihan “I think the real value that destinations can offer is providing those connections – having a clear vision of where the opportunities are to drive the economic growth and where those quality visitor experiences are and then introducing them to the tour operators where we know will resonate with their guests' experience.” Gwen Raez Find out more about our guests in this episode: Gwen Raez, Strategy Lead at Visit Scotland Shannon Guihan, Chief Sustainability Officer at The Travel Corporation Rebecca Armstrong, Head of Impact and Development from The Travel Foundation Dr. Anna Spenceley, former chair of IUCN World Commission on Protected Areas Tourism, an independent consultant and Senior Research Fellow with the University of Johannesburg Show notes Intrepid’s partnership with MEET Tourism Care’s Meaningful Travel Map Batu Batu’s Cultural & Bio Assets Mapping: https://www.batubatu.com.my/whats-new/2021/8/23/mersing-cultural-amp-bio-assets-mapping  Further reading from the Visit Scotland, The Travel Corporation, and The Travel Foundation partnership : Qualifying criteria for The Travel Corporation’s MAKE TRAVEL MATTER experiences Supporting tourism’s transition to a low carbon economy Together on the road to net zero Decarbonising the value chain in Scotland Further reading from Anna Spenceley about public private partnerships and concessions in Africa:  Tools and Resources for Nature-Based Tourism (2020) – World Bank (including all the links below) Best Practice Guidelines on Tourism and visitor management in protected areas  (2018) - IUCN Handbook for sustainable tourism practitioners: The essential toolbox (2021) - Edward Elgar An introduction to tourism concessioning: 14 Characteristics of successful programs (2016) – World Bank Group Guidelines for tourism partnerships and concessions for protected areas (2017) – Convention on Biological Diversity Tourism concessions in protected natural areas: Guidelines for managers (2014) – United Nations Development Program Collaborative management partnership toolkit  (2021) – World Bank  Policy on tourism and wildlife concessions on state land (2007) -  Government of Namibia, Ministry of Environment and TourismLet us know what you think in the comments below, and please do like/ follow/ rate/ subscribe to the podcast if you like what you hear.  Follow for more: ⁠Lemongrass PR⁠  ⁠Holly Tuppen⁠   ⁠Richard Hammond⁠ == It’s a Journey is a brand new podcast series hosted by Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert, and Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media. Sponsored by Lemongrass, the first five episodes tackle the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠⁠itsajourney.fm

    46 min

  8. 07/29/2025

    The Future of Rail

    Episode 3: The future of rail. Can train travel in Europe be a practical, affordable, low-emissions alternative to air travel? Sponsored by ⁠⁠Lemongrass⁠ Holly and Richard, along with their guests Bjorn Bender, CEO and Executive Chairman of RailEurope, Mark Smith of The Man in Seat 61 (seat61.com), and Sarah Fussey, Marketing Director of Inntravel, discuss the future of rail. The message from all our guests is loud and clear. Rail is here to stay and will get bigger and better but there’s a few key steps that the industry needs to take first:  Campaign for more competitors on routes  Work with third-parties to gain the booking benefits needed to compete with flights  Focus on communicating the convenience and affordability of rail  Tune in now to hear our guests debating the future of rail, how the travel industry can jump on board, and their top rail booking hacks. Let us know what you think in the comments below, and please do like/ follow/ rate/ subscribe to the podcast if you like what you hear.  “What’s happening in rail now is what happened in aviation 20 years ago, and it is going to benefit customers with lower prices and more services.” Bjorn Bender, CEO RailEurope “When we survey customers about why they want to get the train, it's about the experience and being able to get under the skin of the places that they're traveling in, which of course rail is brilliant for.” Sarah Fussy, Marketing Director, Inntravel “The elephant in the room is that public policy is designed to get us flying. Austria, Germany, and other countries charge VAT on international train tickets for the same journey where there's no VAT on air travel. And of course, airlines get a massive hidden subsidy because their aviation fuel is tax free.” Mark Smith, Man in Seat 61 Find out more about our guests in this episode: Bjorn Bender, CEO and Executive Chairman of RailEurope Mark Smith of The Man in Seat 61 (seat61.com) Sarah Fussey, Marketing Director of Inntravel Show notes Liberalisation of European railways leads to cheaper train tickets Duetsche Bahn releases ticket sales 12 months in advance The new Nightjet sleeper service Inntravel’s Journey’s by Rail Eurail/ Interrail passes Rail Europe for tour operators and agents Holly and Richard regularly write about travelling in Europe by rail. You can find extensive guides to flight-free journeys across Europe at https://www.greentraveller.co.uk/flight-free-journey-planner, and find some of Holly’s articles at https://www.hollytuppen.com/journalism  Follow for more: Lemongrass PR  Holly Tuppen   Richard Hammond == It’s a Journey is a brand new podcast series hosted by Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert, and Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media. Sponsored by Lemongrass, the first five episodes tackle the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠itsajourney.fm

    43 min

  9. 07/15/2025

    Costing Nature

    Episode 2: Costing Nature. Can doing the right thing by people and planet also make commercial sense? Holly and Richard, along with their guests James Thornton, CEO of Intrepid Travel and Siddarth Shrikanth, author of A Case for Nature, explore how valuing nature and prioritising sustainability can be at the heart of a successful travel business. Sponsored by ⁠Lemongrass⁠ “A third of travel businesses are really engaged, a third are looking for guidance, and a third are burying their head in the sand. That final group is in for a bit of a shock.”– James Thornton “Tourism is all about buying a feeling. So, encouraging more people to buy the feeling of protecting and restoring nature and being in relationship to it is what we should be trying to get the tourism industry to do.”– Siddarth Shrikanth Find out more about our guests in this episode: James Thornton, CEO of Intrepid Travel Siddarth Shrikanth, author of A Case for Nature SHOW NOTES  Buy Siddarth Shrikanth’s The Case for Nature here: https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/The-Case-for-Nature-by-Siddarth-Shrikanth/9780715655306  Take a look at Mandai Nature’s strategy mentioned by Siddarth here: https://www.mandainature.org/en/home/news-and-update/conserving-southeast-asias-nature-through-tourism.html  Find out more about the five drivers of the nature crisis here: https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/five-drivers-nature-crisis  Intrepid’s Annual Report 2024 can be viewed here: https://www.intrepidtravel.com/uk/newsroom/company-documents/annualreport  World Travel and Tourism Council (WTTC)'s report on nature and tourism https://wttc.org/initiatives/vision-for-nature-positive-travel-and-tourism  It’s a Journey is a brand new podcast series hosted by Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert, and Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media. Sponsored by Lemongrass, the first five episodes tackle the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to ⁠itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com⁠ Get in touch about opportunities at ⁠itsajourney.fm

    44 min

  10. 06/29/2025

    Don't mention the S word

    Episode 1: Don't mention the S word. Communicating sustainability - should you shout about your sustainability actions? Hear key stats on consumer trust, outcomes from a groundbreaking new report that explores customer responses to sustainability messaging from hotels, and what the travel industry can learn from marketing and insight experts working across multiple sectors. Sponsored by Lemongrass Find out more about our guests in this episode Denise Hicks, Global Climate Lead, C Space  Xavier Font, Professor of Sustainability Marketing, University of Surrey Further reading  Read and watch C Space’s The S Word report Read the Booking/Accor/University of Surrey report And find out more about the Travalyst Travel impact model  It’s a Journey is a brand new podcast series hosted by Holly Tuppen, sustainable travel writer and expert, and Richard Hammond, Publishing Director of Green Traveller Media. Sponsored by Lemongrass, the first five episodes tackle the uncomfortable, complex, and often overlooked questions facing the travel industry as it strives to have a better impact on people and places. Thanks for listening! Please submit any questions or comments to itsajourneypodcast@gmail.com Get in touch about opportunities at itsajourney.fm

    42 min
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In conversation with expert guests, Richard Hammond and Holly Tuppen draw on their years of experience in sustainable travel media to tackle the thorny issues and provide practical insights for a more responsible industry. Sponsored by Lemongrass.

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