The Political Marketing Podcast

Benedict Pringle
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The Political Marketing Podcast seeks to understand how election candidates, political parties and campaigning organisations win hearts, minds and votes. Hosted by Benedict Pringle, the show features interviews with strategists, creatives, pollsters, consultants, academics, advisors and insiders working at the sharp end of political persuasion. Expect thoughtful conversations about what works, what doesn’t, and what’s changing in the world of political marketing. Whether you’re a campaign pro, a marketing geek, or just politically curious, this podcast offers a unique view on the machinery of political persuasion. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Episodes

  1. Inside the Numbers with Labour's Polling Pro

    11/13/2025

    Inside the Numbers with Labour's Polling Pro

    What does political polling for a campaign really look like behind closed doors? On this episode of The Political Marketing Podcast, we're joined by Peter McLeod, founder of Hold Sway, a research, insight and strategy agency, and a veteran of Labour's 2015 and 2024 general election campaigns. As a former VP at the iconic Democratic polling firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner (GQR), Peter brings over 20 years of expertise to explain how polls are used—and often misunderstood—in the high-stakes world of political communication. We pull back the curtain on the day-to-day grind of a campaign pollster, the strategic thinking that defined the 2024 general election, and the profound shift in how voters now engage with political parties. In this episode, we discuss: The Campaign Playbook: What does a campaign pollster actually do? Why Labour was running focus groups almost every night of the 2024 campaign. Polls are NOT Policy: Understanding the crucial distinction between using research to inform communications versus setting government policy. Wide But Shallow: An insider's breakdown of why the 2024 campaign felt "cautious" and what the "wide but shallow" support critique actually means for Labour. The Two-Point Swing: Why strategically, winning a voter from the Conservative/Reform block is "worth twice as much" to Labour as winning a progressive voter. Voters as Shoppers: How the total breakdown of rigid Party ID is forcing all campaigns to rethink their strategy, and why you can't take any vote for granted. The Next Big Shift: Peter's view on the future of political campaigning, from data to cultural change. If you want to understand the strategic forces shaping our political landscape and the mechanics of how votes are truly won, this is a must-listen episode. #PoliticalMarketing #Labour #Polling #GeneralElection #ElectionStrategy #VoterInsight #UKPolitics #PeterMcLeod #Podcast #PoliticalStrategy #Campaigns Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    42 min
  2. Trade Unionism in the Attention Economy

    10/30/2025

    Trade Unionism in the Attention Economy

    How do you modernise a movement that can feel rooted in another era? In this episode, Benedict Pringle speaks to Declan Seachoy, Head of Social Media and Audience Growth at the TUC, about how the trade union movement is reinventing itself for the digital age. Declan shares how the TUC reaches younger workers who don’t always know what a union is, what it takes to make collective action feel relevant on TikTok and Instagram, and why storytelling beats slogans when it comes to recruitment. He also reflects on lessons learned from his time at Momentum and the Labour Party’s digital team, the importance of taking the right creative risks, and how unions can speak credibly to audiences now flirting with Reform UK. From viral campaigns about pay rises and workers’ rights to shaping the national conversation around work, this episode explores what it means to organise — and win attention — in 2025. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    32 min
  3. The science of attack ads

    09/25/2025

    The science of attack ads

    I speak with one of the world's leading academics on political advertising, Professor Travis Ridout of Washington State University. We get to the bottom of a question I'm often asked: "Why are political ads so negative?" Professor Ridout breaks down the three types of political ads—positive, negative, and contrast—and we explore why negative advertising is so effective. We discuss whether negative ads are more informative than positive ones, the strategic reasons a campaign might go on the attack, and why third-party interest groups often run the most aggressive ads. We also dive into the changing world of political advertising, from the fragmentation of media and the decline of television ads to the rise of digital campaigns. We touch on the surprising finding that younger people view political ads more favorably than older generations and why the age-old worry about voter backlash might be a little overblown. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    44 min
  4. Segmenting Broken Britain

    09/11/2025

    Segmenting Broken Britain

    In this episode Luke Tryl, UK Director of More in Common, speaks with Benedict about their landmark Shattered Britain report. They explore the four drivers of national malaise, the seven public segments that define today’s politics, and how these insights explain Labour’s 2024 landslide, the Conservative collapse, and Reform’s rise - as well as what it all means for the next election. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    46 min
  5. Navigating the future of digital campaigns

    08/14/2025

    Navigating the future of digital campaigns

    In this episode of the Political Marketing podcast, host Benedict Pringle speaks with Sam Jeffers, founder of Who Targets Me, about the evolving landscape of political advertising, particularly in the context of digital platforms and recent EU regulations. They discuss the implications of Meta and Google's withdrawal from political advertising in the EU, the importance of transparency in political campaigns, and the potential future of digital campaigning in the UK and US. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in political campaigns and the challenges faced by traditional political parties in adapting to the digital age. Keywords political marketing, digital advertising, political campaigns, transparency, EU regulations, social media, political parties, democracy, AI in politics, political advertising Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    47 min
  6. Inside the digital communications machine

    07/31/2025

    Inside the digital communications machine

    In this episode of The Political Marketing Podcast, I’m joined by Tom Edmonds, one of the key strategists behind the Conservative Party’s successful 2015 general election campaign. As Director of Digital and Creative, Tom worked alongside Craig Elder and under the overall leadership of Lynton Crosby to deliver a tightly disciplined and highly targeted campaign that delivered a surprise majority. We talk about the role of digital in that campaign, what worked, how it was structured, and why message discipline mattered. We also contrast this with the 2017 campaign, which was less successful, and explore what changes made a difference to the outcome. Tom also shares reflections from the 2016 Remain campaign, where he played a central role in digital strategy. Finally, we zoom out to look at how digital campaigning has changed from 2015 to 2025. What’s improved? What’s been lost? And what still matters most? This is a smart, honest conversation about what makes political campaigns win and what makes them fall apart. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    43 min
  7. Polling & Political Strategy: An Inside Look

    07/17/2025

    Polling & Political Strategy: An Inside Look

    In this episode, Benedict is joined by Damian Lyons-Lowe, founder and CEO of Survation, one of the UK's most influential market research firms. This conversation dives deep into what political parties truly know about voters and how that understanding shapes their strategy, both overtly and subtly. Damian cuts through the common narratives about polling in politics, revealing that both extremes—that everything is "polled and focus-grouped to death" and that the "whole operation is a complete shambles"—can, in fact, be true simultaneously. You'll hear Damian discuss the critical balance between "gut instinct" and data-driven decisions. He unpacks complex dilemmas, such as Labour's strategic challenge in appealing to different voter groups, and whether focusing on issues like the NHS or immigration holds more sway. The episode also explores the "nuts and bolts of a political segmentation" – how parties group voters based on views, characteristics, and behaviours using rigorous data. Damian shares fascinating insights into the impact of a fragmented voter landscape on top-line polling and the increasing sophistication of tactical voting in elections. Finally, Damian offers crucial advice for any political campaign: don't just poll for popularity. Understand your credibility on an issue and consider the potential trade-offs and alternatives of any policy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    38 min
  8. Marketing against populists

    07/10/2025

    Marketing against populists

    In this episode of the Political Marketing podcast, host Benedict Pringle interviews Sir Chris Powell, a prominent figure in British advertising and political marketing. They discuss the historical context and impact of Labour’s ‘Shadow Communications Agency’ in the 1980s and 1990s, as well as the challenges posed by populism in contemporary politics. Sir Chris shares insights from his experience advising the Labour Party, emphasising the importance of understanding voter concerns, the need for cooperation among anti-populist forces, and strategies for effectively engaging with voters. The conversation also touches on the significance of addressing bread-and-butter issues rather than getting distracted by populist rhetoric. Takeaways The Shadow Communications Agency was a convenient fiction.Understanding cultural context is crucial for effective campaigning.Cooperation among anti-populist forces is essential for success.Targeting non-voters may yield better results than chasing floating voters.Direct attacks on populist leaders can backfire and reinforce their support.Addressing voter concerns is key to winning elections.Effective political communication requires clarity and relatability.  Keywords political marketing, advertising, populism, election strategy, Labour Party, political communication, voter engagement, anti-populism, political campaigns, Sir Chris Powell Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    38 min
  9. One year on: political marketing in the 2024 UK general election

    07/03/2025

    One year on: political marketing in the 2024 UK general election

    In this first episode of The Political Marketing Podcast, Benedict Pringle speaks to Professor Jennifer Lees-Marshment, one of the founding figures in the field of political marketing. They explore what political marketing really is, how it developed as a discipline, and how it played out in the 2024 UK general election. The conversation covers Labour’s broad but shallow appeal, the Conservative collapse, the ethics of election advertising, and whether political parties are managing their people and their brands effectively. With reflections drawn from Jennifer’s new book Political Marketing and Management in the 2024 UK Election (to which Benedict contributes a chapter), this episode offers a thoughtful and wide-ranging look at the strategies, missteps and messages that shaped one of the most significant elections in recent history. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    40 min
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The Political Marketing Podcast seeks to understand how election candidates, political parties and campaigning organisations win hearts, minds and votes. Hosted by Benedict Pringle, the show features interviews with strategists, creatives, pollsters, consultants, academics, advisors and insiders working at the sharp end of political persuasion. Expect thoughtful conversations about what works, what doesn’t, and what’s changing in the world of political marketing. Whether you’re a campaign pro, a marketing geek, or just politically curious, this podcast offers a unique view on the machinery of political persuasion. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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