Guest Information Guest: Matt Botterbusch Professional background: Commander, Use of Force Review Unit Co-Founder, FIRST STATE FORCE REVIEW LLC FBI National Academy graduate, Session #298 IADLEST Nationally Certified Instructor LEVA Certified Forensic Video Technician Host: Steve Stanulis Podcast: Bullet Proof Podcast Episode Overview Matt Botterbusch discusses the realities of reviewing complex police use-of-force encounters, explaining how human performance, officer perception, video evidence, and investigative methodology affect the interpretation of critical incidents. Key Discussion Points 1. Matt's Law Enforcement Career Matt describes his service-oriented motivation for entering law enforcement, his background in drug interdiction and illegal weapons investigations, and how years of tactical leadership and instruction led him to use-of-force review. 2. Why Understanding the “Why” Matters Traditional investigations establish who, what, when, and where. Matt explains why understanding an officer's decision-making in the moment is also essential to analyzing an encounter fairly. 3. Body-Worn Cameras and Police Accountability Steve and Matt discuss the initial concerns officers had about wearing body cameras and how recorded footage can document police conduct, clarify disputed encounters, and help evaluate complaints. 4. Viral Videos and Missing Context Matt explains the challenges of responding to viral police videos before reports and statements are available. He discusses why agencies should provide context carefully when releasing footage to the public. 5. Perspective Distortion in Body-Camera Footage Body cameras record two-dimensional visual information and have technical limitations. Matt explains how lens distortion, frame rates, camera position, and missing contextual information can affect a viewer's understanding of distance, movement, and timing. 6. Human Performance Under Stress Critical incidents involve time pressure, uncertainty, fear, and competing demands for attention. Matt discusses why an officer's experience of an encounter may differ from what a recording appears to show. 7. Reviewing Force Objectively An incident that initially appears justified may look different after a complete review, and the reverse can also happen. Matt describes using repeatable, reliable investigative methods rather than relying on assumptions or public reaction. 8. Real-World Decision-Making and Public Expectations The conversation examines why expectations such as shooting a weapon out of someone's hand or deliberately targeting a leg do not reflect the realities of rapidly unfolding force encounters. 9. Advanced Forensic Video Technology Matt discusses laser scanning and spatial reconstruction tools used in complex cases to better understand the relative positions of officers and civilians. 10. Tasers and Foot Pursuits During a rapid-fire segment, Matt discusses the limitations of conducted-energy devices, the risks of over-reliance on less-lethal tools, and why foot-pursuit policies need to account for individual circumstances. 11. De-Escalation and Mental Health Crises Matt explains why communication and persuasion are often preferred, while recognizing that some situations require timely physical intervention to secure a person and obtain medical care. 12. Accountability Within Law Enforcement Matt discusses the difficulty of discovering that an officer made a poor decision. He emphasizes that credibility depends on presenting the facts honestly, even when the findings are unfavorable to law enforcement. 13. Memory After Critical Incidents Matt explains that officers may not remember parts of an encounter captured on video. Under stress, attention narrows, and memory may not align perfectly with recorded evidence. 14. Lessons for Officers and the Public Matt encourages the public to consider the totality of circumstances before reaching conclusions. For officers, he stresses realistic expectations of human performance, continued education, and an understanding of how video evidence should be interpreted. Key Takeaway A video recording is an important piece of evidence, but interpreting a complex force encounter requires context, objective analysis, an understanding of human performance, and a willingness to consider facts that may challenge initial assumptions. Disclaimer This episode reflects the conversation and opinions expressed by the participants. Discussion of particular incidents should not be interpreted as a formal finding about any case that was not fully reviewed in the episode. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.