Jobbers: American Energy | The People Powering America

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Jobbers: American Energy is the podcast that captures the real, unfiltered stories from the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. From seasoned jobbers and truck drivers to lobbyists, risk managers, and legal advocates, we go beyond the headlines to spotlight the grit, leadership accountability, and blue-collar legacy of those who keep our country running. Each month, host Jason Case sits down for candid, unscripted conversations with the men and women who’ve lived the work, shaped the industry, and built a culture of responsibility, safety, and workforce resilience. This isn’t corporate spin or industry hype, these are honest stories of generational workforce dynamics, frontline experiences, and lessons worth passing down. New episodes on the third Thursday of every monthListen in for family legacies, leadership insights, safety culture, and the human side of American energyVisit www.jobberspodcast.com for moreFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy Real talk. Real people. Real America.

  1. Fuel Storage, Energy Markets & the Future of Western Supply | Sawtooth Caverns

    6D AGO

    Fuel Storage, Energy Markets & the Future of Western Supply | Sawtooth Caverns

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit: www.jobberspodcast.com How does fuel actually move across the western United States—and what happens when refinery shutdowns, global conflict, and shifting energy policy begin disrupting supply? In this episode of Jobbers: American Energy, Jason Case sits down with Aaron Aldape and Justin Anderson from Sawtooth Caverns to break down the realities of fuel storage, western energy logistics, and the infrastructure required to keep fuel moving across the region. Aaron Aldape brings years of experience from Chevron, where he worked across refinery operations, product placement, commercial strategy, and upstream negotiations before overseeing the company’s Rocky Mountain region business. Justin Anderson’s path started in central Utah before building a career managing terminals, rail operations, and large-scale logistics systems throughout North America. Together, they explain how underground fuel storage works, why refined product storage is becoming increasingly important, and how western fuel markets are adapting to refinery closures, supply volatility, and infrastructure challenges. The conversation also explores the impact of the Iran conflict and Strait of Hormuz instability on fuel pricing and global supply chains. From California fuel policy and regional logistics to long-term infrastructure investment, the episode highlights how the energy industry is evolving in real time. Finally, the discussion highlights the realities of large-scale fuel infrastructure, including supply resiliency, transportation logistics, and what it takes to support growing demand across the western United States. One key takeaway: fuel storage and infrastructure are becoming more important than ever as the energy landscape continues to shift. If you want a real-world look at fuel logistics, supply resiliency, and the future of western energy infrastructure, this is the conversation. In This Episode: • How underground fuel storage caverns work • Aaron Aldape’s transition from Chevron to Sawtooth • Justin Anderson’s background in rail and terminal operations • California refinery shutdowns and western fuel supply risks • Rail, trucking, and refined product logistics • Strategic fuel reserves and energy resiliency • Utah energy policy and infrastructure investment • How global conflict impacts fuel pricing and supply • The future growth plans for Sawtooth Caverns YouTube Chapters 0:00 Coming up... 1:56 Meet Aaron Aldape & Justin Anderson 4:10 What is Sawtooth Caverns? 7:18 How Underground Fuel Storage Works 11:05 Fuel Logistics & Seasonal Supply 15:42 Aaron’s Background at Chevron 22:15 Justin’s Journey from Farming to Fuel Operations 30:44 Growing Through North America’s Oil Boom 38:20 California Refinery Shutdowns & Western Supply Risks 45:14 Strategic Fuel Reserves Explained 52:36 Fuel Blending & Regional Supply Challenges 58:40 Utah Energy Policy & Infrastructure Investment 1:08:12 How the Iran Conflict Impacts Fuel Markets 1:16:28 Fuel Volatility, Infrastructure & Global Supply 1:22:47 Future Growth Plans for Sawtooth Caverns 1:27:50 Big Dogs Event & Industry Networking 1:30:10 Final Thoughts Thank you for watching Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit: www.jobberspodcast.com 🎙️ Listen on your favorite podcast app and never miss an episode 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy. Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    38 min
  2. A Career in Fuel: 50+ Years of Experience in the Energy Industry | Tim Clark

    APR 16

    A Career in Fuel: 50+ Years of Experience in the Energy Industry | Tim Clark

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com What does a 50+ year career in the fuel industry actually look like—from the Air Force to civilian terminal operations? In this episode of Jobbers: American Energy, Jason Case sits down with Tim Clark, a veteran of both military and commercial fuel operations, to walk through decades of real-world experience in energy. From refueling aircraft in extreme conditions to managing large-scale fuel terminals, Tim shares what it takes to operate safely, efficiently, and in compliance across constantly evolving regulations. The conversation explores how the industry has changed—from early practices that created long-term environmental challenges to today’s strict regulatory landscape. The episode also dives into fuel logistics, military operations, and the behind-the-scenes systems that keep supply chains running—from forecasting fuel demand to ensuring product quality from refinery to end use. Finally, the discussion highlights the realities of terminal operations, including infrastructure challenges, major capital projects, and what it takes to bring facilities up to modern compliance standards. One key takeaway: regulations are necessary—but they don’t always go away, even as the industry evolves.  If you want a real, inside look at how fuel operations, compliance, and long-term industry experience come together, this is the conversation. 🎧 In This Episode: • Tim Clark’s 52-year career in fuel and energy  • From Air Force fuel specialist to civilian operations  • How military fuel logistics actually work  • The evolution of environmental and safety regulations  • Real-world impact of outdated industry practices  • Inside fuel terminal operations and infrastructure  • Major compliance upgrades and capital projects  • Fuel quality control and supply chain management  • Why regulations stay—and what that means for the future ⏱️ YouTube Chapters 0:00 Coming up…  1:10 Meet Tim Clark (Background & Career Overview)  3:00 Growing Up & Joining the Air Force  6:00 Becoming a Fuel Specialist  10:30 Early Fuel Training & Operations  15:00 Instructor Role & Career Progression  20:00 Military Fuel Logistics & Forecasting  27:00 Leadership Roles & Advancing in the Air Force  34:00 Base Closures & Environmental Impact  39:00 Old Industry Practices vs Modern Regulations  44:00 Transition to Civilian Fuel Industry  50:00 Working in Commercial Terminals (Hawaii)  1:00:00 Career Transitions & Industry Changes  1:08:00 Moving to Las Vegas  1:12:00 Inside Terminal Operations at Rebel Oil  1:18:00 Major Compliance & Infrastructure Projects  1:25:00 Leadership, Team Building & Final Thoughts Thank you for watching Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 🎙️ Listen on your favorite podcast app and never miss an episode 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter):  Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    1h 31m
  3. Fuel Supply, Policy & the Truth About Gas Prices | Jobbers Ep. 13

    MAR 19

    Fuel Supply, Policy & the Truth About Gas Prices | Jobbers Ep. 13

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” Why aren’t lower gas prices always a good thing—and what’s really happening behind the scenes in the fuel industry? In this episode of Jobbers: American Energy, Jason Case sits down with industry leaders to break down the realities of fuel supply, pricing, and policy in today’s market. From the role of the Energy Marketers of America (EMA) to the differences between big oil and family-owned fuel businesses, this conversation gives a clear look into how the industry actually operates. The discussion explores refinery shutdowns across the West, rising fuel costs in states like Nevada, and the growing challenges around logistics and supply. The episode also dives into ethanol policy, including E15, infrastructure costs, and the regulatory pressure facing small and mid-sized fuel marketers. From Washington policy battles to “Day on the Hill,” it highlights how federal-level decisions directly impact pricing, operations, and long-term stability. Finally, the conversation turns to the future of energy—breaking down EV mandates, electrification, and why a balanced approach may be more realistic than an all-electric transition. In This Episode: • What EMA is and how the fuel industry operates • Big Oil vs family-owned fuel businesses • Refinery shutdowns and their impact on supply • Why gas prices are rising across the West • E15 fuel explained and infrastructure challenges • Key regulatory battles affecting fuel marketers • How lobbying and policy decisions shape the industry • EV mandates vs a balanced energy future • Why extremely low gas prices can hurt long-term supply Thank you for watching Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries.  📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit: www.jobberspodcast.com 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more at www.jobberspodcast.com/about Real people. Real stories. Real American energy. Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    42 min
  4. Europes Triple Threat: Energy, Culture and Immigration | Jobbers Ep. 12

    FEB 19

    Europes Triple Threat: Energy, Culture and Immigration | Jobbers Ep. 12

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” In this episode, Jason Case and Barry Funston continue a wide-ranging, candid conversation on leadership, accountability, and the real-world consequences of political and economic decisions. What begins as a reflection on Barry’s journey from the oil industry into philanthropy expands into a deeper discussion about governance, trust, and how societies respond under pressure. Barry shares insight from his unique vantage point as a European observer of American politics, offering nuanced thoughts on Donald Trump’s policies, leadership style, and the tension between disruption and diplomacy. Jason responds by grounding the conversation in history, incentives, and accountability, particularly around immigration, energy independence, and national sovereignty. Together, they examine the lasting fallout of Covid across the US and UK, including economic disruption, government overreach, and growing polarization. The discussion moves into NATO, Europe’s energy challenges, Brexit, and the war in Ukraine, exploring what happens when leadership fails to act decisively and where consequences must exist to restore public trust. This is a long-form, honest exchange that avoids soundbites and leans into complexity, disagreement, and lived experience. Watch the full episode to hear the complete conversation and context behind these issues shaping the world today. 📌 Watch full episodes and explore more at: www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along for updates and behind-the-scenes content: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, CEO of ROC, a third generation family run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more at jobbers podcast.com  Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    1h 21m
  5. Belfast's History and Our High Standard | Jobbers Ep. 11

    JAN 15

    Belfast's History and Our High Standard | Jobbers Ep. 11

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” In this powerful episode of Jobbers: American Energy, host Jason Case sits down with Barry Funston, a longtime friend and oil industry veteran from Belfast, Northern Ireland. The conversation spans far beyond the world of fuel and oil.  Recorded on Veterans Day inside the Pearl Harbor WAR ROOM, this episode opens with the meaning of remembrance, the poppy, and how history shapes perspective. From there, Barry shares what it was like building a career in the OIL business during the THE TROUBLES, navigating an industry under threat, and watching a family owned company evolve into a large publicly traded organization.  This is part one of a deeper story about leadership, integrity, culture, and what happens when growth start to replace decency. Watch the full 2 part episode to hear the full conversation, including stories from the Irish Open years, the evolution of the Rory Foundation, and the honest back and forth on the issues shaping the world today:  📌 Watch full episodes and explore more at: www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along for updates and behind-the-scenes content: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, CEO of ROC, a third generation family run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more at www.jobberspodcast.com/about #belfast #northernireland #thetroubles #oilman #rorymcilroy #fuel #oil #veteransday #poppy https://www.gmediaco.com Produced by G Media. Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    1h 1m
  6. The Stories Behind America’s Energy - A Year in Review | Jobbers Ep. 10

    12/18/2025

    The Stories Behind America’s Energy - A Year in Review | Jobbers Ep. 10

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” What’s worth remembering from a year of storytelling in American energy? In this special year-end episode of Jobbers: American Energy, host Jason Case takes a look back at season one - reflecting on the voices, values, and vulnerabilities shared by the people behind the petroleum supply chain. From fourth-generation jobbers and lobbyists to coal country engineers and first-time podcasters, each episode helped capture what so often goes unspoken. This isn’t corporate spin. It’s legacy, grit, and leadership, remembered out loud. Whether you missed a few episodes or want to revisit the moments that hit hardest, this recap reminds us why these stories matter - and why we’re just getting started. KEY TAKEAWAYS • Why the podcast was created after personal loss • Why stories from “quiet leaders” in energy matter more than hype • Insights from Peter Kruger on integrity in lobbying • David Ryan’s East Coast financial wisdom and grit • Marlis McGrew’s journey from law to oil and family legacy • Matt Moracco’s coal mining tribute and Crandall Canyon memories • Ron Perkins on humility, sales leadership, and team culture • Miranda Hoover’s view on energy policy and legislative impact • Chuck Straight’s mentorship mindset and ranching roots • Lauren Roberts breaking down California fuel prices • A special tribute episode to Jack and the meaning of legacy BEST MOMENTS 00:02:17. “A lot of these people are humble. They don't like talking about what they do and for how long they've done it.” 00:03:14. “You want to have a seat at the table as these policies are changing, or else you might be on the menu.” 00:05:39. “You can have the nicest trucks, the nicest facilities... but if you have bad people, you'll screw it all up.” 00:09:30. “Safety culture is just an illusion, you know? That’s what they want to say. We want to show it’s real.” 00:12:24. “Coal miners are like a brotherhood. They live and die for each other.” 00:14:02. “What's your plan? This truck's going to arrive... it gives them a comfortability.” 00:17:00. “You’re only going to make it better when all stakeholders are at the table.” 00:19:07. “Everybody that worked with my dad... said he was the hardest worker they ever had.” Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    28 min
  7. The Legacy of Jack Cason: Founder, FAMILY MAN, and Rebel Ep. 9

    11/20/2025

    The Legacy of Jack Cason: Founder, FAMILY MAN, and Rebel Ep. 9

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” Why does a single gas station in 1954 still shape how ROC operates today? In this special legacy episode, Jason sits down with his wife, Christi Case, VP of ROC and granddaughter of founder Jack Cason, to reflect on the man who transformed one Phillips 66 station into a multi state wholesale operation and a multigenerational family business. Christi shares personal stories that reveal Jack not only as a founder but as a grandfather, mentor, and steady presence in every season of life. From beach bonfires in Coronado and late night ice cream runs to his signature white truck, pocket notepad, and unwavering work ethic, Christi paints a picture of a man who led with integrity, humility, and a deep sense of responsibility to family and community. Jason and Christi also explore how Jack’s values continue to guide ROC today. They discuss the meaning behind “What Would Jack Do,” the cultural standards he instilled, and why his simple phrase “life is choices” remains a compass for how the company shows up for customers, partners, and each other. Christi reflects on growing up around the business, from watching her sister pump gas at full service stations to balancing slot route envelopes in the AS400 system during summer breaks. She shares what it was like to return in 2017 as the company transitioned out of retail and into the next chapter, and how Jack responded with both pride and cautious confidence as the third generation stepped in. This episode is both a family conversation and a reminder of why legacy matters. It captures the heart behind ROC’s origins, the values that built it, and the responsibility of carrying a 70 year story forward. Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, CEO of ROC, a third generation family run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more at www.jobberspodcast.com/about . Produced by G Media.  www.GMediaCo.com Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    41 min
  8. California's Fuel Isla`Taxes, and Supply Constraints | Jobbers Ep. 8

    10/23/2025

    California's Fuel Isla`Taxes, and Supply Constraints | Jobbers Ep. 8

    “Send Jobbers Podcast a text” Why is fuel in California so much more expensive than anywhere else in the U.S.? In this episode, Jason sits down with Lauren Roberts, an industry veteran and ROC’s Director of Marketing, to unpack the policies, shutdowns, and market distortions that have turned California into a true fuel island. From refinery closures and restricted supply chains to the rising costs of cap-and-trade and the CARB regime, this conversation breaks down the hidden mechanics behind fuel pricing, renewable mandates, and the shrinking middle ground in energy policy. If you’ve ever wondered why oil execs are leaving, or how a refinery can be too expensive to run in a fuel-hungry state, this episode explains it all. KEY TAKEAWAYS • What CARB is and how its rules affect California’s fuel supply • Why you can’t truck or pipe fuel from other states into California • Breakdown of California’s total fuel tax burden • How refinery closures are shrinking in-state supply • Why California’s fuel specs isolate it from national supply • What the LCFS and Cap-and-Trade programs really cost • How 45Z is disrupting the renewable market and feedstock access • Why domestic-only sourcing is impacting clean fuel development • The federal Credit Card Competition Act and why retailers care • What the High Blends Infrastructure Program could mean for new stations BEST MOMENTS 00:05:25. “Between those two refineries, that’s approximately 20% of the refining capacity in California.” 00:09:14. “You want to support California and you’re only an hour across the border? You can’t truck in fuel because it’s a different formulation.” 00:12:18. “Safe to say that well north of a dollar a gallon is basically taxes created by California.” 00:17:10. “A professor in California benchmarked it at $8 per gallon unless something changes.” 00:23:34. “EVs are great, but they’re not saving the world. Most power still comes from natural gas or coal.” 00:30:55. “45Z came online at the beginning of this year, and it kind of threw the market into a frenzy.” 00:36:42. “Now you’re pricing the subsidies differently for two different categories.” 00:44:10. “Credit card fees are the second biggest line item after labor.” 00:49:20. “California was the last state to approve E15. Finally, it’s allowed year-round.” Thank you for listening to Jobbers: American Energy, the podcast that captures the real, unscripted stories of the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. Every month, we go beyond the headlines to share the grit, leadership, and legacy of the workers who keep this country running. 📌 For more episodes, resources, and behind-the-scenes updates, visit:  www.jobberspodcast.com 📺 Watch full video episodes and exclusive clips on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy 📲 Follow along on social for extra content, updates, and sneak peeks: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562625762810 X (Twitter): https://x.com/Jobbers_AE 🛢️ Jobbers: American Energy is hosted by Jason Case, the CEO of ROC, a third-generation family-run wholesale energy distribution company. Learn more about Jason and the work behind the show at www.jobberspodcast.com/about. Real people. Real stories. Real American energy.

    53 min
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Jobbers: American Energy is the podcast that captures the real, unfiltered stories from the people powering America’s fuel and energy industries. From seasoned jobbers and truck drivers to lobbyists, risk managers, and legal advocates, we go beyond the headlines to spotlight the grit, leadership accountability, and blue-collar legacy of those who keep our country running. Each month, host Jason Case sits down for candid, unscripted conversations with the men and women who’ve lived the work, shaped the industry, and built a culture of responsibility, safety, and workforce resilience. This isn’t corporate spin or industry hype, these are honest stories of generational workforce dynamics, frontline experiences, and lessons worth passing down. New episodes on the third Thursday of every monthListen in for family legacies, leadership insights, safety culture, and the human side of American energyVisit www.jobberspodcast.com for moreFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jobbers_american_energy/Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jobbers-AmericanEnergy Real talk. Real people. Real America.

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