Messy Thoughts

BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins
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Messy Thoughts is a no-holds-barred talk show where Austin-based friends BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins catch up weekly to get into the mess—from pop culture deep dives to personal rabbit holes. Each episode explores life, sex, identity, and everything in between through a queer lens, as the duo trade off asking each other a mix of intrusive thoughts and premeditated questions that range from hilarious to heartfelt. Whether it’s unpacking bad behavior or dissecting viral drama, BJ and LeBron keep it honest, unpredictable, and unapologetically messy.

  1. 4d ago

    "That Never Happened" feat. Christie Hoffman - Messy Thoughts 44

    MESSY THOUGHTS 44. Messy Thoughts is back with one of the most honest, hilarious, and healing conversations we've ever had on this podcast. BJ and LeBron sit down with content creator and trauma recovery advocate Christie Hoffman (@christie.heals) — and y'all, she did NOT hold back. Christie shares her raw, unfiltered story: surviving a physically abusive marriage, losing her brother to suicide, going no-contact with her family, and finding herself on the other side of all of it — thriving, 300K followers deep, and finally living in her truth. We get into DARVO (the manipulation tactic that will literally change how you see every difficult relationship in your life), the role psychedelics played in her healing, why Joe Dispenza's meditations had her crying in a room visualizing a TEDx stage, what it really means to "choose your hard," and why if you're a black sheep, you might actually be the GOAT of your bloodline. This episode is for anyone who's ever felt gaslit by someone they loved, stayed too long in something that wasn't serving them, or needed permission to blow up their life and start over. Also — we talk about astrology, single mom dating escapades, the gay community needing to sit down for a second, and what Christie may or may not have discovered about her own sexuality. New here? Subscribe and come back every episode for the kind of conversations you wish you could have with your best friends. 📌 Find Christie: Instagram & TikTok: @christie.heals 📌 Resources mentioned: DARVO Cheat Sheet: Christie created this to help people recognize whether they may be experiencing manipulation in any relationship in their lives. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QCVDOOPvPkaCUYsVOU_0aHCUT9TWQeEE/view?usp=sharing Joe Dispenza Meditations: These are two of Christie's favorites. She used them to help bridge the gap between her old life and the life she was trying to create. They helped her hold on, heal, and begin imagining a different reality for myself. Tuning into new potentials: https://drjoedispenza.com/product-details/Tuning%20In%20To%20New%20Potentials Morning / Evening meditations (shorter meditations for every day): https://drjoedispenza.com/product-details/Tuning%20In%20To%20New%20Potentials The RECLAIM Method: Christie created it specifically to help people who feel trapped, confused, or in crisis recognize manipulation, reclaim their voice, and decide what comes next. https://go.christiehoffman.com/c/cg2Z4775_M Following Cyrus Veyssi: https://www.instagram.com/cyrusveyssi/ 🎙️ Messy Thoughts — where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are healed. www.messythoughts.com Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins, Produced by Keller Davis. #MessyThoughts #ChristieHoffman #HealingJourney #TraumaRecovery #DARVO #GenerationalCurses #Psychedelics #JoeDispenza #Boundaries #BreakingCycles #SelfLove #MentalHealth #GayPodcast #QueerContent #Codependency #DivorceRecovery #Manifestation #ChoosingYourself #ChristieHeals

    "That Never Happened" feat. Christie Hoffman - Messy Thoughts 44

  2. Sep 23

    "The Family You Were Born Into" - Messy Thoughts 43

    MESSY THOUGHTS 43. BJ, LeBron and Keller are in their feelings — and their family memories — for episode 43. What starts as a chaotic pre-show debate about running downtown Austin, ketchup packets, and In-N-Out fries somehow becomes a full deep dive into Pink's Black era, Kandi Burruss's songwriting empire, Real Housewives drama, and the case for Keke Palmer getting a podcast booking ASAP. Then things get real. BJ breaks down what it was like growing up as one of six kids in a big, loud, blended, beautiful Alabama family — and why that kind of family richness is getting harder to afford in America. LeBron shares what it meant to grow up with twins as siblings. Keller reflects on distance, communication, and what gets lost when you don't call enough. They debate what to actually unlearn from the way they were raised — the colorism jokes that don't translate outside the family, the emotional regulation nobody taught them, and the words that were just "normal" until they weren't. Plus: If someone handed you $7 million right now, how much would your siblings get? BJ's answer will make you gasp. LeBron's will make you laugh. And yes — "We're a family here" at your job orientation? They have thoughts. 🎙️ Hosted by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins | Produced by Keller Davis 📲 Follow us: @messythoughts on Instagram, TikTok & YouTube 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com | 🌐 messythoughts.com #MessyThoughts #Podcast #AustinPodcast #FamilyTalk #BlackPodcast #PopCulture #RealHousewives #KikiPalmer #GrowingUp #FamilyDrama

    "The Family You Were Born Into" - Messy Thoughts 43

  3. Sep 16

    "Everything is Changing And We're Not Okay" - Messy Thoughts 42

    MESSY THOUGHTS 42. BJ, LeBron, and a special appearance from Keller are back — and this one went everywhere. It starts with BJ's niceness finally running out on a stranger who had way too many opinions, then somehow spirals into bad Airbnb experiences, the most chaotic decisions that actually worked out, the most overrated things in existence (food trucks, run clubs, and one very specific music genre), and a deep Shrek shirt appreciation moment courtesy of Keller. Then things get real. The crew sits down with a topic that hits home for all three of them: change. How do you actually deal with it when it comes for your relationships, your body, your career, your community? When is resistance grief and when is it wisdom? They get into celebrity deaths disrupting their peace, Peter Pan syndrome in Austin's gay community, and what it looks like to stop trying to fit into spaces that were never built for you — and just go be somewhere you're actually wanted. Plus: Does BJ know who Ella Langley is? Keller and LeBron need answers. Drop your thoughts in the comments and find us on all socials. 🎙️ 📲 TikTok | Instagram | YouTube → @messythoughtspod 🌐 messythoughts.com #messythoughts #blackpodcast #austinpodcast #gaypodcast #peterpansyndrome #airbnb #talkshow #podcastlife #selfimprovement #queerpodcast #changeyoucanbelievein #overrated

    "Everything is Changing And We're Not Okay" - Messy Thoughts 42

  4. Sep 2

    "We Were NOT Prepared for These Questions" - Messy Thoughts 41

    MESSY THOUGHTS 41. This week BJ and LeBron are going full Messy Bowl — no regular agenda, just topics pulled straight from the bowl and a 10-minute clock. What could go wrong? Everything. In the best way. They kick things off venting about the absolute disrespect of apartment AC going out in the middle of summer, the art of negotiating thermostat settings with your parents, and why car maintenance should be illegal. BJ is 2,000 miles overdue for an oil change and has zero shame. Then the bowl takes over: Tequila vs. Vodka — BJ and LeBron debate which one deserves to be erased from existence forever. Spoiler: neither of them is going quietly. Wedding crashing, tiramisu cake, and Kyle at the Iron Bear all make appearances. Should there be a partner rating app? — Turns out, it already exists. And LeBron has a profile. With glowing reviews. BJ reads one live on air. This is journalism. Nostalgia is killing new art — Are millennials so obsessed with reboots and sequels that we've forgotten how to make something original? Toy Story 5, Coming to America 2, Avatar, The Incredibles... BJ and LeBron call it all out. Euphoria Season 3 — LeBron watched it. BJ didn't. That did not stop the conversation. Full spoilers, full opinions, full devastation. They break down what went wrong, what they wish had happened, and why they both wish they'd left it at Season 2. Drop your Messy Bowl topics in our comments or link in bio — your question might get pulled next time. 🎙️ New episodes every week. Like, subscribe, and share so we can keep the thoughts messy. 📲 Follow us: TikTok | Instagram | YouTube → @messythoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #PopCulture #PodcastLife #TalkShow #AustinPodcast #BlackPodcast #GayPodcast #BlackAndGay

    "We Were NOT Prepared for These Questions" - Messy Thoughts 41

  5. Aug 26

    "Can You Be In a Relationship Without Losing Yourself?" - Messy Thoughts 40

    MESSY THOUGHTS 40. BJ and LeBron are NOT holding back. This week's episode kicks off with a genuinely philosophical detour — what if everyone you've ever met is just you in a different timeline? From there it's full send into: would you ever shapeshift into another race or body if you could (Mystique discourse is real), what it means to actually date as yourself instead of your PR rep, and the Whoopi Goldberg book that honestly snatched a wig. Oh, and friendships. The real kind. The ones where you can call out of nowhere and time just resets. The ones where someone hurt your feelings and you actually said something about it. The ones that get smaller as you get older — and why that's not always a bad thing. Plus: BJ's bold non-negotiables in both romance and friendship (yes, one of them involves eating something), LeBron's reincarnation preferences laid bare, and the very honest question of what are you even bringing to the table? Drop your five things you look for in a relationship in the comments — we actually want to know. 👇 New episodes of Messy Thoughts every week. Subscribe and come be messy with us. 🌐 messythoughts.com 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #RelationshipAdvice #LGBTQ #BlackPodcast #PopCulture #FriendshipGoals

    "Can You Be In a Relationship Without Losing Yourself?" - Messy Thoughts 40

  6. Aug 19

    "The Anatomy of a Hater" - Messy Thoughts 39

    MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 39. What does it actually mean to be a hater — and is it always a bad thing? BJ and LeBron crack open some Trip melon cucumber drinks and get into it. They break down the real definition of a hater, why they think hating is honestly kind of built into us, and where the line is between healthy jealousy and straight-up toxic behavior. They call out the covert haters in your friend group, the ones sliding into your Instagram stories every day but never saying a word to your face. Then they take it to celebrity land — breaking down La Roche's judging style on Project Runway, Tamar Braxton's messy era, and a full Nicki Minaj deep dive on how insecurity can turn a legend into a hater. LeBron runs BJ through a round of "Friend or Foe" — three real-life scenarios to figure out if your people are actually your people. And the Messy Bowl makes its return with a spicy first-date question that they immediately decide deserves its own whole episode. Pull up. 🔗 Find us everywhere: messythoughts.com 📧 Submit to the Messy Bowl: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube Subscribe so you never miss an episode. #messythoughts #messythoughtspod #haters #nikciminaj #projectrunway #laroach #tamarbraxton #friendorfoe #blackpodcast #culturepodcast #gayblackmen #popculture #realitytvtea #dramawithaside #queerpodcast

    "The Anatomy of a Hater" - Messy Thoughts 39

  7. Aug 12

    "Are The Gays Loving Themselves?" - Messy Thoughts 38

    MESSY THOUGHTS 38. We're back. And we have thoughts. BJ and LeBron return from their mid-season break with a packed episode — movie quote challenges, Europe recaps, a run-in with a rude flight attendant, and a deep dive into whether the gay community actually practices what it preaches about love and self-acceptance. BJ just got back from Santorini, Greece (with a layover detour through Madrid that included a very... educational bathhouse visit), and LeBron filled his break with work, an Oura Ring, and a new theory about complimenting strangers on the street. It's a lot. We get into all of it. Then things get real. The guys ask a question nobody wants to answer honestly: do gay men actually celebrate each other — or are we too busy calculating each other's value the second someone walks through the door? From body politics to ageism, lookism, and exclusive party flyers, BJ and LeBron go there without apology. To close it out, the Messy Bowl makes its debut — and the first question pulled is spicy enough: do you actually have to be liked by your boyfriend's friends? Drop your answer in the comments. And if you've got a question for the Messy Bowl, send it our way. Follow Messy Thoughts: 🎙️ messythoughts.com 📸 Instagram: @messythoughtspod 🎵 TikTok: @messythoughtspod ▶️ YouTube: Messy Thoughts 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #GayCommunity #LGBTQPodcast #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #GayMen #PodcastForBlackGayMen #PopCulture #PrideTalk #ATXPodcast

    "Are The Gays Loving Themselves?" - Messy Thoughts 38

  8. Jul 15

    "I Used to Dance!! (with Colton Dowling)" - Messy Thoughts 37

    MESSY THOUGHTS 37. Stand-up comedian, writer, and actor Colton Dowling (Some of This Is Bad) pulls up to the Messy Thoughts studio — and within about ninety seconds he's already announced he's uncomfortable and asked if this is "a card." BJ and LeBron take that as a personal challenge, and what follows is one of the most gloriously derailed hours we've recorded. We open on BBL recovery times and the horror of everything going straight to your ass, before Colton gets into whether you're legally allowed to fire your therapist (and whether the problem is the therapist or… you). BJ steers us into the naked power-walker of downtown Austin, LeBron fights for the sanctity of clapping at the end of a movie, and somewhere in there Colton reveals the PF Chang's interview that quietly ended his modeling career. The back half goes fully off the rails: a movie tangent where the three of us basically just name films we half-remember and describe the plots wrong, a Players Club recap that raises more questions than it answers, a heated referendum on whether LA is fake, and the sacred bond between a mom and her lipstick mirror-notes. Colton also opens up about the Paris he'd blocked out for twelve years and why, these days, he "doesn't dance anymore." It gets real, it gets stupid, it gets H-E-B-reverent. BJ, LeBron, and Colton close it out with plans to flee to Spain and one lingering question about Katy Perry in space. The thoughts are messy. The bottoms are not. 🎙️ Special guest: Colton Dowling ▶️ Podcast: Some of This Is Bad 📸 IG: @coltondowling // @someofthisisbad ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🔔 New episodes of Messy Thoughts with BJ & LeBron — subscribe & hit the bell 🎧 Also on Apple Podcasts & Spotify 📱 Follow for clips & chaos ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ #MessyThoughts #ColtonDowling #SomeOfThisIsBad #ComedyPodcast #QueerPodcast

    "I Used to Dance!! (with Colton Dowling)" - Messy Thoughts 37
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Messy Thoughts is a no-holds-barred talk show where Austin-based friends BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins catch up weekly to get into the mess—from pop culture deep dives to personal rabbit holes. Each episode explores life, sex, identity, and everything in between through a queer lens, as the duo trade off asking each other a mix of intrusive thoughts and premeditated questions that range from hilarious to heartfelt. Whether it’s unpacking bad behavior or dissecting viral drama, BJ and LeBron keep it honest, unpredictable, and unapologetically messy.

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  • Creator
    BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    44
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Messy Thoughts
  • Show Website
    Messy Thoughts

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