Down the Rabbit Hole

Bri + Sam
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Welcome to Down the Rabbit Hole—a podcast where two artists, best friends, and lifelong seekers wander into the depths of what it means to be fully alive. We're not here to give you answers.
We're here to ask better questions.
About art, about grief, about the body, about love, longing, leaving, and everything in between. In this space, we dive into the tender, the taboo, and the beautifully unhinged parts of being human.
Sometimes it's a conversation between just the two of us.
Sometimes we bring on fellow artists, mystics, bodyworkers, and thought-shapers—who help us see with softer eyes.
Always, we're chasing wonder. And curiosity So if you crave the kind of conversations that feel like late-night walks or a dinner conversation amongst friends 
Come with us.
We're going down the rabbit hole.

  1. FEB 6

    Episode 13: Navigating Shadow, Sensitivity, and Collective Strength

    In this episode, Sam and Bri unpack the collective grief and rage many women are carrying, using Renee Good's killing to name the quiet power dynamics women navigate every day. They dive into feminism, masculinity, and their privilege as white women, while also reminding listeners to look for the collective good still alive in the world. From there, heading directly into self work, emotional capacity, attachment styles, and the necessity of learning to receive. Sam reflects on a retreat that taught her to make fewer decisions and soften into receptivity. They dive into shadow work as women, the traits they were taught to hide, like anger, intensity, or "too muchness," and how those buried parts are often the very source of strength. By reclaiming their shadows, they reframe sensitivity, fire, and weirdness as tools for building a more honest, connected future. Bonus conversations about grave robbing in art, the wolves of the sawtooth pack, the power of astrology, and not making politicians your favorite celebrity. Subscribe, like and review to help us push the podcast forward!   00:00 Welcome to Our First Remote Episode 00:14 The Emotional Weight of Change 05:51 Navigating Privilege and Responsibility 08:50 The Impact of Recent Events 14:14 Community Action and Advocacy 20:33 The Weight of Fear: Women's Experiences with Aggression 27:16 Political Discourse: The Need for Emotional Intelligence 32:55 The Importance of Community and Self-Care 39:44 Navigating Attachment Styles 41:13 The Importance of Community 43:31 Cosmic Leadership and Astrology 46:18 Embracing Our Shadows 49:27 The Role of Artists in Society 55:14 Deep Dives: Anatomy and Art 56:42 Exploring the Connection with Wolves

    1h 8m

  2. JAN 23

    Episode 12: Rejecting Collective Apathy, Considering Rage

    The rabbit hole this week explores the outrage gap we feel between men and women, the power in shifting the gaze inward, the nuance of learned helplessness, and the seductive nature of political apathy.   00:00 Welcome Back and New Beginnings 04:04 Sponsorship Woes and Podcasting Realities 10:28 Collective Gaslighting: Women's Experiences 16:15 The Outrage Gap: Men and Women's Issues 23:13 Learned Helplessness and Political Apathy 29:45 Reclaiming Agency and Community

    39 min

  3. JAN 9

    Episode 11: What We've Learned This Year

    In this light-hearted episode, Bri and Sam discuss their issue with the New Year being too pressurized, fun memories and traditions of the New Year, and how the choose to set goals. They each give each other insight to the lessons they've learned: from breaking toxic relationship patterns to leaning in to self trust as a single woman. This episode focus on taking moments of gratitude and reflection for all that's happened this year.

    58 min

  4. 12/19/2025

    Episode 10: Creating Traditions, Seasonal Stillness, and Consuming Christmas

    We dive into the emotional weight of nostalgia, the beginnings of holiday consumerism, and the importance of creating our own traditions as an act of self love.  We share some of the grief and healing that can come with stillness and seasonal cycles, and we also attempt to give some of our Christmas traditions the credit where they're due.

    57 min

  5. 12/05/2025

    Episode 9: Health Advocacy and The Pelvic Floor Part II

    In this episode, Sam and Bri continue exploring a conversation with friend and Pelvic Floor Therapist Dr. Kayleigh. They talk about health class and the shame it implements at a young age, how the world discounts intuitive bodily sensation, and the power of diaphragmatic breathing for strength, healing and resilience. The conversation works around chronic illness and pain as they talk about their own personal experiences while weaving in Dr.Kayleigh's widsom. They discuss the power of meditation for chronic pain, alongside the different areas of the brain that signal pain— how cash-based healthcare practices can ensure a full healing and so much more! For anyone navigating chronic illness, chronic pain, endometriosis, cystitis and UTIs, pelvic floor dysfunction and so much more.. you are not alone. Follow Dr.Kayleigh @thepelvicsocialclub   00:00 Navigating Trauma Responses and Intuition 11:31 Celebrating Growth and Positive Reflections 17:05 The Role of Pelvic Floor Therapy 23:24 Navigating Healthcare: Cash vs. Insurance 26:44 Empowerment Through Self-Care 33:04 Creating Supportive Spaces for Healing 40:11 The Flow of Creativity and Movement 43:13 Understanding Hormonal Influences on Mood 43:13 Cultural Reflections: Taylor Swift's Engagement 53:12 Exploring the Depths of Performance Art

    54 min
  6. Reclaiming Your Body: Chronic Illness, Pelvic Floor Healing, and Radical Self-Advocacy

    11/21/2025

    Reclaiming Your Body: Chronic Illness, Pelvic Floor Healing, and Radical Self-Advocacy

    In this episode, we're joined by our friend and pelvic floor physical therapist, Dr. Kayleigh, and we go way down the rabbit hole on chronic conditions, the body keeping the score, and what it can look like to learn how to heal your own body from the inside out. We get radically honest about our personal medical stories: endometriosis, appendicitis, chronic constipation, and even peeing ourselves while running—and how each experience has shaped our relationship to our bodies. Dr. Kayleigh offers invaluable insight from the provider perspective, reminding us what's possible when you have a clinician who truly listens. Together, we talk about bodily trauma, injury, the nervous system, and the practices we've implemented over the years to reconnect with our bodies instead of abandoning them. We also explore what it really means to advocate for yourself in medical spaces, especially when your symptoms are minimized or misunderstood. It's equal parts validating, educational, and deeply human: a conversation for anyone who's ever felt betrayed by their body, or is trying to find their way back home to it.... and for anyone who cannot poop while on vacation  If you know someone struggling with a chronic illness, please send this to them! And as always, please rate, review and subscribe x   00:00 Silly Goose Conversations and Lighthearted Banter 02:00 Exploring the Body's Wisdom and Childhood Experiences 10:38 The Connection Between Pain and Memory 19:40 The Role of Pelvic Floor Therapy 19:59 Cystitis and Bladder Health 27:01 The Importance of Holistic Approaches 35:30 Breathwork and the Nervous System 43:19 Understanding Pelvic Floor Dynamics 48:38 Navigating Healthcare: Cash vs. Insurance 50:06 Empowerment Through Self-Care 56:25 Creating Supportive Spaces for Healing 01:01:24 The Flow of Creativity and Movement 01:10:11 Understanding Hormonal Influences on Mood 01:13:12 Cultural Reflections: Taylor Swift's Engagement 01:23:11 Exploring the Depths of Performance Art

    1h 24m

  7. 11/07/2025

    Episode 7: What the Body is Worth

    This week, after a brief detour into the Hamilton obsession, Bri takes us back to her former life in the New York modeling world - and the unique relationship she developed with her body along the way.  Sam shares her own experience with bodily perfection and the pressure as a dancer.  They unpack body image, identity, and the ways society shapes what we think we want.

    43 min

  8. 10/10/2025

    Episode 6: Navigating the Gray Areas: Male-Female Friendships, Power, and Safety

    Can men and women really just be friends? In this conversation, Bri and Sam unpack the intricate dynamics of platonic relationships across gender lines. They explore the nuance of power imbalances between men and women, sharing personal experiences of feeling unsafe and the ways these dynamics shape our interactions… even in friendships. From the tension between genuine connection and underlying sexual chemistry to the question of whether true platonic friendship can exist when power differentials are at play… Bri and Sam get vulnerable about the moments they've felt their boundaries tested, the subtle and not-so-subtle ways gender influences every relationship, and how they're learning to navigate these complexities with honesty and awareness, while still remaining open

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About

Welcome to Down the Rabbit Hole—a podcast where two artists, best friends, and lifelong seekers wander into the depths of what it means to be fully alive. We're not here to give you answers.
We're here to ask better questions.
About art, about grief, about the body, about love, longing, leaving, and everything in between. In this space, we dive into the tender, the taboo, and the beautifully unhinged parts of being human.
Sometimes it's a conversation between just the two of us.
Sometimes we bring on fellow artists, mystics, bodyworkers, and thought-shapers—who help us see with softer eyes.
Always, we're chasing wonder. And curiosity So if you crave the kind of conversations that feel like late-night walks or a dinner conversation amongst friends 
Come with us.
We're going down the rabbit hole.

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