The Other Side

Nadine Hogan

"Nadine sure likes to talk" - every report card she brought home Nadine has been talking for 47 years, and en route to pickleball can be overheard asking "So, what's your deepest wound?" Not known for her subtleties, she's a born story-collector and learned storyteller who decided to mic-up and take you along for the ride.  Listen in as Nadine chats with folks about their lives, zeroing in on those messy parts as we get ourselves from one point to another. Covering things like friendships, careers, deaths, and divorces. There's nothing she won't ask in hopes that other people's experiences can help you through your own.  We're not experts; we're just humans having a human experience we think you can learn from. Or relate to. Or laugh at. Or cry over.  So hit download, dive in, and hear how folks found themselves on THE OTHER SIDE.  nh x

  1. Jun 10

    TOS of Conscious Uncoupling

    This week Nadine invited Hillory on the pod to talk about divorce - she said yes, as long as what we could actually talk about was love 3 For Hillory, they are one in the same.  Hillory Tenute is a First Nations leader, advocate, entrepreneur, founder of Lodge Consulting, beader, auntie, and dog mom whose approach to relationships will genuinely make you rethink everything you think you know about what it means when something ends. Yes, this conversation is about divorce, but not the kind you're probably imagining. No villain. No blowup. Just two people who loved each other enough to stop.  Coming from a family where you don't just "throw people away", Hillory knew that when she realized she no longer wanted to be married, the work was in figuring out how to separate but remain connected. To, essentially, end well.  In this episode, Hillory tells us about the surgery that shifted things and what it felt like to finally say the sentence out loud. The night Mike's things were gone and she was alone in a house that no longer felt like hers. How it felt to explore her sexuality, and what it actually looks like to build a life that's fully, unapologetically yours - the new apartment, the solo trip to Europe, her Margie era, a new app (Matchee Matchee) and the new love she wasn't looking for.  If you've ever loved someone you had to let go, this conversation is for you.  It's warm and honest, a little bit funny and a lot bit true x @the_otherside_pod

    1h 30m
  2. Apr 29

    TOS of Being Mortal by Atul Gawande w/ Mom & Sis

    They're backkkkkkkk. The last Wednesday of the month means mom and sis join Nadine for a conversation that starts with a laundry disagreement and ends with all three of them in tears. This one is special 3 It began with a simple idea, a book club of sorts. All three of them agreed to read Being Mortal by Atul Gawande but when they hopped on to chat about it, it turned into something unexpected and deeply personal. Turns out the book, which examines how medicine handles aging, terminal illness, and end of life, lands differently when you've lived it. And this family has lived it. Listen in as Nadine, Danielle, and Lorraine open up about losing their dad/husband, Ed, to stage four lung cancer in April 2020, right in the thick of COVID. They talk about the brutal treatments that no one told him to stop, the fact that only once, and while in crisis, did anyone ask about his end of life wishes, and the friend and GP who finally had the conversation that the system never could. They wrestle with the tension between fighting and letting go, and how hard it is to honour someone's autonomy when all you want is more time with them. Lorraine reflects on Ed's unshakable will to live and his refusal to hear a prognosis. Danielle connects the book to her daily work in addictions and occupational therapy, where she fights for the same things Gawande writes about - choice, dignity, and a life worth living. And Nadine reckons with a memory she can't shake: calling her dad from Ottawa, telling him to go to the hospital, unable to accept that he was dying. They also talk about what the book gets so right; the loneliness, boredom, and helplessness of institutional care, the couple who built their own aging community, the man who came back to life when someone put a bird in his room, and the music teacher who spent her final days doing the only thing she ever wanted to do - teach. This one is heavy and beautiful and important. It's about how we treat the people we love at the end, and whether we're brave enough to ask them what they actually want. It's also about screaming into the void at Cape Spear, which according to this family, is excellent therapy. Read it. Seriously. Read this book. @the_otherside_pod

    1h 27m

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"Nadine sure likes to talk" - every report card she brought home Nadine has been talking for 47 years, and en route to pickleball can be overheard asking "So, what's your deepest wound?" Not known for her subtleties, she's a born story-collector and learned storyteller who decided to mic-up and take you along for the ride.  Listen in as Nadine chats with folks about their lives, zeroing in on those messy parts as we get ourselves from one point to another. Covering things like friendships, careers, deaths, and divorces. There's nothing she won't ask in hopes that other people's experiences can help you through your own.  We're not experts; we're just humans having a human experience we think you can learn from. Or relate to. Or laugh at. Or cry over.  So hit download, dive in, and hear how folks found themselves on THE OTHER SIDE.  nh x

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