Lessons After Sessions

Jen & Trev
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Jen (LCPC) & Trev (LMFT) cover a wide array of topics that impact daily life. Listen to their raw and unfiltered perspectives in the Lessons After Sessions podcast, where you'll get real talk, real life.

Episodes

  1. Episode 12: Life's Unfairness

    10/31/2025

    Episode 12: Life's Unfairness

    Summary In this conversation, Jen and Trev explore the themes of stress, unfairness, and coping mechanisms. They discuss the cyclical nature of life, the importance of acceptance, and the power of surrendering control. Through personal anecdotes and insights, they emphasize the significance of journaling and physical movement as ways to process feelings of injustice and angst. The conversation culminates in reflections on how to shift perspectives and find peace amidst life's inherent unfairness. Takeaways Life is cyclical, with phases of quiet and noise.We often fail to practice the self-care advice we give others.Acceptance is crucial for feeling grounded and centered.Journaling can be a powerful tool for processing emotions.Surrendering control can lead to a sense of freedom.Fighting against unfairness drains our energy.Understanding different perspectives can lessen feelings of injustice.Life is inherently unfair, and we must learn to accept that.The quest for 'why' can lead to unnecessary angst.We can only control our reactions and perceptions, not external events.

    26 min
  2. Episode 11: How to Implement Boundaries

    10/24/2025

    Episode 11: How to Implement Boundaries

    summary In this conversation, Jen and Trev explore the importance of setting boundaries in various aspects of life, including family dynamics, friendships, and romantic relationships. They discuss the challenges of maintaining boundaries, the emotional toll of not having them, and the necessity of open communication. Through relatable examples, they emphasize that boundaries are essential for personal well-being and healthy relationships. takeaways Setting boundaries is crucial for personal peace and sanity.It's important to recognize when relationships become transactional.Communication is key in maintaining healthy boundaries.Walking away from toxic relationships can be a form of love.Boundaries can apply to family, friends, and romantic partners.Healthy relationships require ongoing boundary checks.You should not feel guilty for setting boundaries.Your gut feelings are important indicators of relationship health.It's okay to let go of one-sided friendships.Boundaries can look different and are not always negative.

    26 min
  3. Episode 10: Boundary Checks

    10/10/2025

    Episode 10: Boundary Checks

    Listen to Episode 10 as Jen and Trev discuss various types on boundaries and how to implement them in daily life.

    26 min
  4. Episode 9: Parental Alienation, Navigating Uncharted Waters

    09/26/2025

    Episode 9: Parental Alienation, Navigating Uncharted Waters

    In this conversation, Jen and Trev explore the complexities of parenting, particularly in the context of alienation and blended families. They discuss the emotional challenges faced by parents, the importance of maintaining healthy relationships with children, and strategies for navigating difficult situations. The conversation emphasizes the need for patience, understanding, and the ability to focus on positive moments, or 'glimmers', amidst the challenges of parenting. Takeaways: Focus on glimmers rather than triggers.Alienation can occur even in intact families.Healthy relationships take time and effort.Children may act as victims of manipulation.Set boundaries around technology use.Respond to alienation with non-emotional communication.Public rejection can be painful but must be managed.Continue to show up for your child despite challenges.Document feelings in a journal for emotional release.Parenting is about raising functional adults.

    31 min
  5. Episode 8: Alienation in Parent / Child Relationships

    09/19/2025

    Episode 8: Alienation in Parent / Child Relationships

    In this conversation, Jen and Trev explore the complex topic of alienation in parent-child relationships, particularly in the context of divorce. They discuss the signs and symptoms of alienation, the impact it has on children, and the manipulative behaviors that can arise from one parent against the other. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing these signs early and understanding the long-term effects of alienation on both children and parents. They also touch on the need for support systems and the challenges faced by parents who are being alienated. Takeaways: Alienation can manifest in various ways in parent-child relationships.Recognizing signs of manipulation is crucial for parents.Children may exhibit behaviors that indicate they are being influenced by the alienating parent.The emotional impact of alienation can be devastating for children.Parents should not react with anger towards their children, as they are victims too.It's important to maintain a long-term perspective in dealing with alienation.Support systems play a vital role in navigating the challenges of alienation.Alienation can lead to a complete rejection of one parent and their family.Understanding the abusive nature of alienation is essential for healing.Parents must hold onto their truth and identity amidst the chaos.

    27 min
  6. Episode 7: Parental Alienation (What is it?)

    09/12/2025

    Episode 7: Parental Alienation (What is it?)

    In this conversation, Jen and Trev delve into the complex and often misunderstood topic of parental alienation. They discuss the various forms of alienating behaviors, the emotional impact on children, and the challenges faced by parents navigating these difficult dynamics. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing both intentional and unintentional behaviors that can harm relationships between parents and children, as well as the broader implications of false allegations in family court. Through their discussion, they aim to provide clarity and support for those affected by these issues, emphasizing the need for healthy co-parenting practices. Takeaways: Parental alienation is a complex and gray area.True alienation is a form of emotional abuse.Alienating behaviors can be both direct and indirect.The emotional damage to children is profound.Unintentional behaviors can still have harmful effects.Accusations of abuse can be a form of manipulation.Healthy communication is essential in co-parenting.Children's preferences can change and are not always alienation.Understanding developmental stages is crucial for parents.The impact of successful alienation can be devastating.

    25 min
  7. Episode 6 | Estrangement Part 2: When to Walk Away

    09/05/2025

    Episode 6 | Estrangement Part 2: When to Walk Away

    In this conversation, Jen and Trev explore the complexities of estrangement, particularly in toxic relationships. They discuss the signs of emotional and mental abuse, the importance of setting boundaries, and the feelings of guilt that often accompany estrangement. The dialogue emphasizes the need for self-reflection and empowerment when deciding to distance oneself from unhealthy relationships, while also acknowledging the cultural significance of family dynamics. Takeaways: Estrangement can be necessary for mental health.Recognizing different types of abuse is crucial.Setting boundaries is a form of self-care.Guilt often accompanies the decision to estrange.Communication of needs is essential in relationships.It's important to reflect on personal health in relationships.Estrangement doesn't have to be permanent.Cultural pressures can complicate family dynamics.Empowerment comes from making healthy choices.Not all relationships are meant to last.

    21 min
  8. Episode 5 Part 1: Estrangement | When Someone Chooses to Walk Away

    08/29/2025

    Episode 5 Part 1: Estrangement | When Someone Chooses to Walk Away

    In this conversation, Jen and Trev explore the complex topic of estrangement, discussing its various forms, the emotional impact on families, and the importance of boundaries. They delve into the nuances of self-imposed versus unwanted estrangement, the role of communication, and the challenges of navigating relationships affected by emotional and mental abuse. The discussion emphasizes the need for self-awareness, compassion, and the ability to cope with loss while still finding joy in life. Takeaways: There are two types of estrangement: self-imposed and unwanted.Estrangement can lead to confusion and grief within families.Boundaries are crucial in maintaining healthy relationships.Transactional relationships often lead to conditional love.It's important to evaluate your own boundaries when dealing with estrangement.Grieving someone who is alive can be incredibly difficult.You can still love someone from afar even if estranged.Healthy communication is essential in family dynamics.Self-awareness and empathy are key in navigating estrangement.You can enjoy family events despite the absence of an estranged member.

    27 min
  9. Episode 4: Changes

    08/26/2025

    Episode 4: Changes

    In this conversation, Jen & Trev explore the multifaceted nature of change, sharing personal experiences and insights on how to navigate life's transitions. They discuss the emotional impact of change, the importance of acceptance, and the role of gratitude in fostering resilience. The dialogue emphasizes that while change can be challenging, it also presents opportunities for growth and learning. The speakers encourage listeners to embrace change, recognizing it as a constant in life, and to shift their mindset from a deficit perspective to one of abundance. Takeaways: Change is a constant in life and can be both wanted and unwanted. Navigating change often involves grief and acceptance. Practicing gratitude can help alleviate anxiety related to change. Personal experiences shape our perception of change. It's important to sit with discomfort during times of change. Not all change is negative; it can lead to growth. Embracing change allows for new opportunities and experiences. Living in a mindset of abundance can shift our perspective on change. Change can impact our routines and emotional well-being. Recognizing the beauty in change can lead to personal growth.

    22 min
  10. Episode 3: Reframing Expectations

    08/15/2025

    Episode 3: Reframing Expectations

    In this episode of Lessons After Sessions, Jen and Trev explore the complexities of expectations in various aspects of life, particularly in parenting and relationships. They discuss the emotional transitions that come with significant life changes and how these transitions can be tied to our expectations. The conversation delves into the burden of expectations, how they can lead to disappointment, and the importance of reframing expectations as intentions to foster a healthier mindset. The hosts emphasize the need for grace and flexibility in our goals and intentions, encouraging listeners to approach life with a lighter perspective. Takeaways Parenting brings a unique set of expectations.Expectations can lead to disappointment in various relationships.Stress often stems from unmet expectations.Reframing expectations as intentions can reduce pressure.Setting intentions allows for grace and flexibility.Expectations can box us in and create feelings of failure.It's important to have low expectations to avoid disappointment.Emotional transitions can be complex and multifaceted.We should approach our goals with intention rather than rigid expectations.Expectations are a natural part of human relationships.Sound Bites "I'm now an empty nester.""Expectation is like a box.""Expectations are 100% natural."

    24 min
  11. Episode 2: Forgiveness (& "release-ness")

    08/08/2025

    Episode 2: Forgiveness (& "release-ness")

    In this episode of Lessons After the Sessions, Jen & Trev delve into the complex topic of forgiveness, emphasizing the importance of self-forgiveness as a precursor to forgiving others. They explore the misconceptions surrounding forgiveness, the emotional burdens of shame, and the necessity of releasing toxic feelings. The conversation also addresses challenging scenarios, such as forgiving those who have caused significant harm, and offers practical tools for emotional release. Ultimately, they propose a shift in language from 'forgiveness' to 'releasing' to better capture the essence of letting go and reclaiming personal power. TRIGGER: sexual assault briefly discussed Takeaways Forgiveness starts with self-forgiveness.Shame can turn into toxic shame if not addressed.Forgiveness is a personal journey, not about the other person.Releasing is about taking back your power.Daily practices of releasing are essential for emotional health.Understanding the 'why' behind our choices aids in forgiveness.Forgiveness does not excuse harmful behavior.Writing letters to abusers can be a powerful tool for release.Releasing shame can create a ripple effect of positivity.Conscious choices are crucial in the process of releasing.Titles The Power of ForgivenessReleasing Shame: A Path to HealingSound Bites "Releasing is gaining power.""You can feel it vibrate within you.""It's a daily choice to release."Chapters 00:00Introduction and Technical Difficulties 03:01Forgiveness Starts Within 08:12Tools for Releasing Pain 13:40Daily Releases and Their Impact

    24 min

  12. 08/01/2025

    Episode 1: Life 360. Trust vs Control.

    In this inaugural episode of the Lessons After Sessions podcast, hosts Jen (LCPC) and Trev (LMFT) explore the complexities of parenting teenagers in today's world. They discuss the balance between safety and autonomy, the impact of technology on parenting, and the importance of building healthy relationships with children. Through their experiences as therapists, they emphasize the need for trust, understanding, and allowing children to make mistakes as part of their growth process. The conversation highlights the significance of family dynamics and the lessons learned from navigating parenting challenges. Takeaways: We're both therapists, but we are not providing therapy.The more you try to control something, the more out of control it gets.Let them make mistakes. It's a huge gift.Balance is the key.What do you want for your children?Every single family, every single child is different.Trust your kid.Relationships are the key.You have to give them some space to make mistakes.What message does that send to your children?

    23 min
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Jen (LCPC) & Trev (LMFT) cover a wide array of topics that impact daily life. Listen to their raw and unfiltered perspectives in the Lessons After Sessions podcast, where you'll get real talk, real life.

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