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Fiction and the Fantastic

Marina Warner, Anna Della Subin, Adam Thirlwell and Chloe Aridjis traverse the great parallel tradition of the literature of astonishment and wonder, dread and hope, from the 1001 Nights to Ursula K. Le Guin. Marina Warner is a writer of history, fiction and criticism whose many books include Stranger Magic, Forms of Enchantment and Once Upon a Time: A Short History of Fairy Tale. She was awarded the Holberg Prize in 2015 and is a contributing editor at the LRB. Texts include: The Thousand and One Nights  Jonathan Swift, Gulliver’s Travels The Travels of Marco Polo Italo Calvino, Invisible Cities Lewis Carroll, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass The stories of Franz Kafka James Hogg, The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner: Written by Himself Mikhail Bulgakov, The Master and Margarita Mary Shelley, Frankenstein Jorge Luis Borges, Ficciones Leonora Carrington, The Hearing Trumpet and works by Angela Carter, J.G. Ballard and Ursula K. Le Guin

  1. EPISODE 2

    ‘The Thousand and One Nights’

    The Thousand and One Nights is an ‘infinite text’: it has no fixed shape or length, no known author and is transformed with each new translation. In this first episode of Fiction and the Fantastic, Marina Warner and Anna Della Subin explore two particularly mysterious stories in the context of the wider mysteries and pleasures of the Nights. ‘The Porter and the Three Ladies of Baghdad’ highlights the pleasures of dreaming, the power of language and the imagination’s essential role in eroticism, while ‘Abdullah of the Sea and Abdullah of the Land’ demonstrates how the fantastic can help us imagine new ways of living. Non-subscribers will only hear an extract from this episode. To listen to the full episode, and to all our other Close Readings series, subscribe: Directly in Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/applecrff⁠⁠ In other podcast apps: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/closereadingsff⁠⁠ Further reading in the LRB: Marina Warner: Travelling Text https://lrb.me/ffnights1 Steven Connor: One’s Thousand One Nightiness https://lrb.me/ffnights2 William Gass: A Book at Bedtime https://lrb.me/ffnights3 Get the book: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/sealenightsff⁠⁠ Marina Warner is a writer of history, fiction and criticism whose many books include Stranger Magic, Forms of Enchantment and Once Upon a Time: A Short History of Fairy Tale. She was awarded the Holberg Prize in 2015 and is a contributing editor at the LRB. Anna Della Subin’s study of men who unwittingly became deities, Accidental Gods, was published in 2022. She has been writing for the LRB since 2014. LRB AUDIOBOOKS Discover audiobooks from the LRB: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lrb.me/audiobooksff

    15 min
  2. EPISODE 3

    ‘Gulliver’s Travels’ by Jonathan Swift

    Jonathan Swift’s 1726 tale of Houyhnhnms, Yahoos, Lilliputians and Struldbruggs is normally seen as a satire. But what if it’s read as fantasy, and all its contradictions, inversions and reversals as an echo of the traditional starting point of Arabic fairytale: ‘It was and it was not’? In this episode Marina and Anna Della discuss Gulliver’s Travels as a text in which empiricism and imagination are tightly woven, where fantastical realms are created to give different perspectives on reality and both writer and reader are liberated from having to decide what to think. Non-subscribers will only hear an extract from this episode. To listen to the full episode, and to all our other Close Readings series, subscribe: Directly in Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/applecrff⁠⁠ In other podcast apps: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/closereadingsff⁠⁠ Further reading in the LRB: Terry Eagleton: A Spot of Firm Government https://lrb.me/ffswift1 Clare Bucknell: Oven-Ready Children https://lrb.me/ffswift2 Thomas Keymer: Carry Up your Coffee Boldly https://lrb.me/ffswift3 Marina Warner is a writer of history, fiction and criticism whose many books include Stranger Magic, Forms of Enchantment and Once Upon a Time: A Short History of Fairy Tale. She was awarded the Holberg Prize in 2015 and is a contributing editor at the LRB. Anna Della Subin’s study of men who unwittingly became deities, Accidental Gods, was published in 2022. She has been writing for the LRB since 2014. LRB AUDIOBOOKS Discover audiobooks from the LRB, including Jonathan Rée's Becoming a Philosopher: Spinoza to Sartre: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lrb.me/audiobooksff

    16 min
  3. EPISODE 4

    ‘Invisible Cities’ by Italo Calvino

    Italo Calvino’s novella Invisible Cities is a hypnagogic reimagining of Marco Polo’s time in the court of Kublai Khan. Polo describes 55 impossible places – cities made of plumbing, free-floating, overwhelmed by rubbish, buried underground – that reveal something true about every city. Marina and Anna Della read Invisible Cities alongside the Travels of Marco Polo, and explore how both blur the lines between reality and fantasy, storyteller and audience. They discuss the connections between Calvino’s love of fairytales and his anti-fascist politics, and why he saw the fantastic as a mode of truth-telling. Non-subscribers will only hear an extract from this episode. To listen to the full episode, and all our other Close Readings series, subscribe: Directly in Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/applecrff⁠⁠ In other podcast apps: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/closereadingsff⁠⁠ Further reading in the LRB: Salman Rushdie: Calvino https://lrb.me/ffcalvino1 James Butler: Infinite Artichoke⁠⁠ https://lrb.me/ffcalvino2 Jonathan Coe: Calvinoism https://lrb.me/ffcalvino3 Marina Warner is a writer of history, fiction and criticism whose many books include Stranger Magic, Forms of Enchantment and Once Upon a Time: A Short History of Fairy Tale. She was awarded the Holberg Prize in 2015 and is a contributing editor at the LRB. Anna Della Subin’s study of men who unwittingly became deities, Accidental Gods, was published in 2022. She has been writing for the LRB since 2014. LRB AUDIOBOOKS Discover audiobooks from the LRB: ⁠https://lrb.me/audiobooksff

    16 min
  4. EPISODE 5

    ‘Alice in Wonderland’ by Lewis Carroll

    Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass are strange books, a testament to their author’s defiant unconventionality. Through them, Lewis Carroll transformed popular culture, our everyday idioms and our ideas of childhood and the fantastic, and they remain enormously popular. Anna Della Subin joins Marina Warner to explore the many puzzles of the Alice books. They discuss the way Carroll illuminates other questions raised in this series: of dream states, the nature of consciousness, the transformative power of language and the arbitrariness of authority. Non-subscribers will only hear an extract from this episode. To listen to the full episode, and all our other Close Readings series, subscribe: Directly in Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/applecrff⁠⁠ In other podcast apps: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/closereadingsff⁠⁠ Further reading in the LRB: Marina Warner: You Must Not Ask https://lrb.me/ffcarroll1 Dinah Birch: Never Seen A Violet https://lrb.me/ffcarroll2 Marina Warner: Doubly Damned https://lrb.me/ffcarroll3 Marina Warner is a writer of history, fiction and criticism whose many books include Stranger Magic, Forms of Enchantment and Once Upon a Time: A Short History of Fairy Tale. She was awarded the Holberg Prize in 2015 and is a contributing editor at the LRB. Anna Della Subin’s study of men who unwittingly became deities, Accidental Gods, was published in 2022. She has been writing for the LRB since 2014. LRB AUDIOBOOKS Discover audiobooks from the LRB: ⁠https://lrb.me/audiobooksff⁠

    16 min
  5. EPISODE 7

    Gothic Tales by Jan Potocki and Isak Dinesen

    ‘With Potocki,’ Italo Calvino wrote, ‘we can understand that the fantastic is the exploration of the obscure zone where the most unrestrained passions of desire and the terrors of guilt mix together.’ The gothic is a central seam of the fantastic, and in this episode Marina and Adam turn to two writers in that mode who lived over a hundred years apart but drew on the period of the Napoleonic wars: Jan Potocki and Isak Dinesen (the pseudonym of Karen Blixen). Potocki’s The Manuscript Found in Saragossa (1805) is a complex sequence of tales within tales, written from the point of view of the early 19th century but describing events in Spain in the 18th century. It’s a powerful commentary on the preoccupations of the Enlightenment and the repression of historical guilt. In Seven Gothic Tales (1934), Dinesen confronts some of the most unsettling aspect of sexual guilt and desire with psychological astuteness. Adam and Marina discuss the ways in which, in both works, the gothic was able to explore areas of human experience that other genres struggled to accommodate. Non-subscribers will only hear an extract from this episode. To listen to the full episode, and to all our other Close Readings series, subscribe: Directly in Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/applecrff⁠⁠ In other podcast apps: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/crscfflrbpod⁠⁠ Read more in the LRB: On Potocki: ⁠⁠⁠https://lrb.me/ffpotocki1 On 'Out of Africa': https://lrb.me/ffpotocki2 On Dinesen's letters: https://lrb.me/ffpotocki3 LRB Audiobooks Discover audiobooks from the LRB: ⁠https://lrb.me/audiobooksff⁠

    15 min

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Marina Warner, Anna Della Subin, Adam Thirlwell and Chloe Aridjis traverse the great parallel tradition of the literature of astonishment and wonder, dread and hope, from the 1001 Nights to Ursula K. Le Guin. Marina Warner is a writer of history, fiction and criticism whose many books include Stranger Magic, Forms of Enchantment and Once Upon a Time: A Short History of Fairy Tale. She was awarded the Holberg Prize in 2015 and is a contributing editor at the LRB. Texts include: The Thousand and One Nights  Jonathan Swift, Gulliver’s Travels The Travels of Marco Polo Italo Calvino, Invisible Cities Lewis Carroll, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass The stories of Franz Kafka James Hogg, The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner: Written by Himself Mikhail Bulgakov, The Master and Margarita Mary Shelley, Frankenstein Jorge Luis Borges, Ficciones Leonora Carrington, The Hearing Trumpet and works by Angela Carter, J.G. Ballard and Ursula K. Le Guin

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