The Institutional Edge: Real allocators. Real alpha.

Angelo Calvello
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Welcome to The Institutional Edge: Real allocators. Real alpha! Dr. Angelo Calvello hosts this exciting new podcast partnership with Pensions & Investments, designed to cut through the noise in institutional investing. Unlike other investment podcasts filled with vendor pitches and rambling biographical stories, this series delivers focused 30-minute episodes featuring real asset owners who actually deploy capital. Get ready for authentic insights that challenge conventional thinking and help you make smarter investment decisions. About the Host: Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations.

  1. 3D AGO

    The Overlay That Paid for Itself: Verizon's Case for In-House GTAA

    How does a pension fund walk away from a global market crisis with $400 million in fresh liquidity? In this episode of Institutional Edge, host Angelo Calvello speaks with Zhuoying (Joy) Xu, CFA, Senior Investment Director at Verizon Investment Management Corp (VIMCO). Joy shares how VIMCO built a systematic, derivatives-based GTAA overlay program that has generated over $1.2 billion in profit since 2014 — including nearly $400 million during COVID-19. She walks through the four-theme quantitative factor model, the qualitative Executive Committee oversight structure, and how the overlay functions as a self-funding tail risk hedge, offering a cost-efficient, high-conviction alternative to traditional options-based protection strategies. Zhuoying (Joy) Xu, CFA, is a Senior Investment Director at Verizon Investment Management Corp (VIMCO), where she oversees a $50 billion institutional portfolio encompassing the company's pension and savings plans. As a core member of VIMCO's Executive and Investment Committees, Joy drives portfolio construction and asset allocation strategy and directs external manager due diligence across public and private markets. She has led a tactical overlay program that generated over $1.2 billion in profit over her ten-year tenure. Joy's career includes roles at BlackRock and Bank of America; she holds an MS in Finance from Boston College. In This Episode: (0:00) GTAA history and Joy Xu's $1.2B overlay at Verizon (03:14) Genesis of Verizon's GTAA program and the SAA gap it was built to bridge (06:38) Four-theme quantitative model: valuation, momentum, sentiment, and liquidity (12:09) Risk management constraints, biweekly rebalancing cadence, and derivatives execution (17:49) Qualitative oversight structure: EC governance, business cycles, and monetary policy (21:57) Model overrides, performance results, and the self-funding tail risk hedge explained (30:13) Building in-house GTAA: operational rigor and reframing the market timing objection Like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might be interested, and please take time to leave us a review! Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators and thinkers. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations. Resources: Joy Xu / VIMCO LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhuoyingxu/ Email Angelo: acalvello@c79llc.com Email Julie: julie.parten@pionline.com Pensions & Investments Dr. Angelo Calvello LinkedIn

    37 min

  2. MAR 24

    From Qubits to Portfolios: The Investor's Guide to Quantum Computing

    Quantum computing may already be in your portfolio — do you know what you actually own? In this episode of The Institutional Edge, host Angelo Calvello is joined by Dr. Daniel Volz — deep-tech entrepreneur, quantum computing expert, and founder and former CEO of KIPU QUANTUM — and Dr. Elisabetta Basilico, financial professional, institutional allocator, and author of Smarter Investing. Quantum computing is not a faster computer — it is a fundamentally different computing paradigm, and it is now at the threshold of commercial relevance. Elisabetta identifies three problems current portfolio construction tools leave genuinely unsolved. Daniel addresses all three, while also confronting the harder realities: scarce and expensive talent, the emerging risk of quantum washing, and why diversified exposure through hardware companies or a dedicated quantum VC fund is the prudent entry point today. Dr. Elisabetta Basilico is a financial professional with over 20 years of experience working with institutional investors, including pension funds, asset managers, and family offices. Her areas of expertise include asset allocation, risk management, fund due diligence, and performance analysis. She is the author of Smarter Investing: How Academic Insights Propel the Savvy Investor and has written numerous articles on investing and financial education. She earned her PhD from the University of St. Gallen and has held the CFA designation since 2007.   Dr. Daniel Volz is a deep-tech entrepreneur and quantum computing expert with experience spanning strategy consulting, industrial R&D, and venture building. He is the founder and former CEO of KIPU QUANTUM, a quantum software company focused on developing application- and hardware-specific quantum algorithms for real-world industrial problems. Under his leadership, the company worked with leading industry users in quantum, and positioned itself at the forefront of near-term quantum advantage. Prior to founding KIPU, Daniel worked on quantum computing strategy and applications at McKinsey & Company, where he advised global clients across chemicals, pharmaceuticals, energy, and finance on the commercial potential and realistic timelines of quantum technologies. He later joined BASF SE, contributing to early enterprise-level quantum initiatives and helping bridge emerging quantum capabilities with concrete industrial R&D and optimization use cases. Daniel’s background combines hands-on scientific research with business execution. He holds a Ph.D. in Chemistry from Karlsruje Institute of Technology, where his research focused on advanced computational and physical chemistry topics. This foundation enables him to translate complex scientific concepts into practical technology strategies and scalable products. He is an active speaker and contributor on quantum computing, commercialization, and deep-tech entrepreneurship, regularly engaging with investors, corporates, and policymakers. In this report, Daniel contributes perspectives on key quantum use cases, leading players, and major investments, offering a pragmatic, operator-driven view on how value is emerging in the quantum ecosystem today. In This Episode: (00:00) Why quantum matters to institutional investors now (04:39) Daniel defines quantum computing as a fundamentally different paradigm (07:54) QPU hardware landscape: multiple modalities in a VHS vs. Betamax race (11:00) From 1980s academic concept to the threshold of commercial use (14:55) What quantum can uniquely solve, and where it still falls short (21:12) Quantum meets machine learning: convergence, not competition (25:55) Elisabetta identifies three unsolved portfolio construction challenges (35:24) Prudent entry point: hardware portfolio or dedicated quantum VC fund (25:55) Three genuinely unsolved problems: inputs...

    48 min

  3. MAR 17

    From Quotrons to AI: New York City Bureau of Asset Management Interim CIO Monte Tarbox on the Transformation of Institutional Investing

    When does the Total Portfolio Approach stop being innovation and start looking exactly like a hedge fund? Monte Tarbox has a sharp answer that might surprise you. Host Angelo Calvello of Institutional Edge welcomes Monte Tarbox, Interim Chief Investment Officer of the New York City Bureau of Asset Management, for a sweeping look at three decades of institutional investing. Monte traces the industry from hand-calculated returns and Quotron terminals to Bloomberg, passive indexing, and alternatives. He offers a sharp critique of fee misalignment between asset managers and asset owners, a contrarian take on the Total Portfolio Approach, and a frank view of AI as disruptive reality rather than fad — closing with a bold prediction that a Bitcoin-driven financial crisis is on the horizon and a clear call for LP collaboration. Monte Tarbox is the Interim Chief Investment Officer of the New York City Bureau of Asset Management, overseeing $311 billion across the city's five public pension systems. He previously served as CIO of the National Electrical Benefit Fund and IAM National Pension Fund, and spent five years with IFM Investors. He has led the AFL-CIO Center for Working Capital, serves as a public advisor to the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System, and is a former trustee of the Montgomery County Public School Retirement System and member of the PBGC Advisory Committee. In This Episode: (00:00) Monte Tarbox, NYC Bureau of Asset Management, $311B interim CIO (03:54) Industry origins in 1990: Taft-Hartley plans and early consulting landscape (06:00) Early portfolio construction: balanced mandates, Quotrons, and data scarcity (10:10) Consultants as de facto CIOs: peer groups, returns, and fiduciary cover (13:33) What improved: custody, trading technology, passive indexing, and governance (20:07) Governance evolution: trustee sophistication, derivatives comfort, and the TPA debate (27:51) What's gotten worse: managers capture scale benefits while LPs plod along (36:30) AI is no fad: disruption, job displacement, and decoupling work from income (40:51) Looking forward: LP collaboration, regulation, and a Bitcoin crisis prediction Like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might be interested, and please take time to leave us a review! Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators and thinkers. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations. Resources: Monte Tarbox — Maryland State Retirement and Pension System Public Advisor Profile: https://sra.maryland.gov/profile/monte-tarbox NYC Bureau of Asset Management (Monte's current organization):

    49 min

  4. MAR 10

    Pricing Uncertainty: What Institutional Investors Need to Know About Prediction Markets

    What if you could price geopolitical risk in real time — before it moves markets — using a publicly visible order book anyone can read right now? In this episode of Institutional Edge, host Angelo Calvello is joined by Will Owens, Research Analyst at Galaxy Digital, and Zack Pokorny, Data Associate at Galaxy Digital, to discuss the current state and future trajectory of prediction markets. The conversation draws a distinction between sports-driven gambling activity dominating platforms like Kalshi and Polymarket and what Will and Zack call "signal markets" — focused on pricing the uncertainty of meaningful macro and geopolitical events. They cover impact markets, decision markets, and AI agents as a liquidity solution, with a pragmatic core message for institutional allocators: the information aggregation value is accessible today, but the more expressive, capital-efficient hedging structures that would truly serve large allocators are still maturing. Will Owens is a Research Analyst on the Research Team at Galaxy Digital. Prior to joining the firm, he worked at UTXO Management, a Bitcoin-native hedge fund and venture firm, where he contributed to research and infrastructure. Will holds a degree in Computer Science and Human and Organizational Development from Vanderbilt University, where he also studied philosophy and game theory. Zack Pokorny is a Data Associate on the Research Team at Galaxy Digital. Before joining the firm, he led on-chain research efforts at CEX.IO and served as an Acquisitions Analyst at Steel Wave. He holds a BA in Finance from Elon University. In This Episode: (00:00) Introduction of Will Owens and Zack Pokorny, Galaxy Digital (03:01) State of prediction markets today: sports gambling vs. signal markets (06:11) Why Galaxy Digital focuses on prediction markets and information aggregation (08:23) Next generation markets: impact markets and decision markets explained (14:28) DeFi applications: leverage, borrow-lend, and capital efficiency (19:17) Multi-outcome unification and solving liquidity fragmentation (20:17) AI agents as continuous market makers and liquidity solutions (25:10) Why institutional investors should pay attention to prediction markets now (30:11) Blockchain experimentation, futarchy, and fully autonomous organizations Like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might be interested, and please take time to leave us a review! Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators and thinkers. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations. Resources: Galaxy Digital (employer): https://www.galaxy.com Galaxy Digital Research Paper — Prediction Markets, Leverage, AI A...

    35 min

  5. MAR 3

    Failure-Tolerant Innovation: Paul Greff's Blueprint for Transforming a $130B Ohio Public Employees Retirement System Pension Fund

    How do you transform a $130 billion pension fund? Start by making it safe to fail. Angelo Calvello, host of Institutional Edge, interviews Paul Greff, Chief Investment Officer of Ohio Public Employees Retirement System (OPERS) since 2018, about his comprehensive transformation of the $130 billion pension fund. Greff describes building a "failure-tolerant" culture of open innovation that encourages intelligent risk-taking, breaks down silos, and surfaces problems early. From 2018 to 2023, he restructured the portfolio by unwinding the 10% hedge fund allocation, moving from 35% to 55% internally managed assets, achieving a measurable reduction of fees, and consolidating multiple risk systems into one unified platform accessible to all staff. Paul Greff is the Chief Investment Officer at Ohio Public Employees Retirement System (OPERS), a position he has held since 2018. Before becoming CIO, Paul served as Deputy CIO for two years and spent seven years as Head of Global Bonds at OPERS. Prior to joining OPERS, he was Senior Managing Director and Head of Global Fixed Income at State Street Global Advisors. With 36 years of institutional investing experience across public and private markets, Paul brings deep expertise in derivatives, fixed income, and multi-asset class portfolio management. He is a CFA charterholder. In This Episode: (00:00) Introduction of Paul Greff, CIO of OPERS, discussion of transformation journey (04:01) Building a culture of open innovation and failure-tolerant environment (06:24) Breaking down asset class silos through collaboration and communication (09:30) Creating quantitative research group to enhance internal capabilities (12:51) Major portfolio restructuring: unwinding hedge funds, bringing assets in-house (16:45) Seven-year risk system consolidation creates unified platform for staff (26:17) Building out office of CIO, exploring new strategies and opportunistic approaches (31:24) Total portfolio approach discussion, philosophical alignment with OPERS strategy Like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might be interested, and please take time to leave us a review! Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations. Resources: Paul Greff LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-greff-cfa/ OPERS (Ohio Public Employees Retirement System): www.opers.org State Street Global Advisors (Paul's former employer - www.ssga.com) Email Angelo: Angelo.Calvello@pionline.com Email Julie: julie.parten@pionline.com Pens...

    38 min

  6. FEB 24

    The Authenticity Crisis: Renee DiResta on How Propaganda Is Poisoning Alternative Data

    Your data is only as good as its source. What if the source is broken by design? In this episode of Institutional Edge, host Angelo Calvello is joined by Renee DiResta, Associate Research Professor at Georgetown's McCourt School of Public Policy and former technical research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, to discuss how AI-generated content and algorithmic manipulation are creating an authenticity crisis that threatens institutional investors relying on alternative data. DiResta, who spent seven years as an equity derivatives trader at Jane Street, explains how trust has been reallocated from institutions to influencers, niche creators, and AI bots, producing a collision between volume, velocity, and veracity. For asset managers spending over $2 billion annually scraping the web and social media for data, DiResta warns that AI detection methods cannot reliably verify authenticity, adversarial attacks move faster than defenses, and content moderation has collapsed — making data fidelity a governance and fiduciary duty issue, not just a technical problem. Renee DiResta is Associate Research Professor at Georgetown's McCourt School of Public Policy, where she studies computational propaganda, disinformation, and information warfare. She previously led technical research at the Stanford Internet Observatory and has briefed Congress, the State Department, and world leaders on influence operations. DiResta led the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation into Russia's Internet Research Agency and testified publicly on its findings. Before her research career, she spent over seven years as an equity derivatives trader and market maker at Jane Street. She is the author of Invisible Rulers. In This Episode: (00:00) Renee DiResta and investment intelligence focus (05:23) Trust reallocation: how credibility shifted from institutions to influencers (07:48) The attention economy: 90-9-1 dynamics, algorithms, and content incentives (12:52) Distrust as default: framing wars and real-time propaganda on social platforms (16:03) AI, deepfakes, and the collapse of content authenticity verification (25:41) The alt data danger: managers ingesting propaganda and unverified signals (33:20) Content moderation collapse, the censorship reframe, and platform failures (39:42) Signal curation, data fidelity, and fiduciary duty for asset managers Like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might be interested, and please take time to leave us a review! Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations. Resources: Renee DiResta — Website/Bio https://www.reneediresta.com/about/ Book: Invisible Rulers: The Peop...

    56 min

  7. FEB 10

    The Information Edge: Prof. Robin Hanson's Tutorial on How Prediction Markets Actually Work and Why They Matter

    Are you ready for an information source that tells the truth—whether you want to hear it or not? Angelo Calvello interviews Professor Robin Hanson, a pioneer in prediction markets since 1988, about how these markets work and their applications for institutional investors. Prof. Hanson, an Associate Professor of Economics at George Mason University, explains that prediction markets aggregate information with remarkable calibration: when markets show an 80% probability, outcomes occur exactly 80 times out of 100. He introduces decision markets for conditional estimates and discusses internal corporate applications. Despite consistently outperforming expert forecasts and committees, Hanson identifies a critical barrier: organizations resist these markets because they provide politically disruptive, independent information that conflicts with controlled narratives. Professor Robin Hanson has pioneered prediction markets since 1988, being the first to write extensively about creating and subsidizing markets to improve estimates of important topics. He was principal architect of the first internal corporate markets at Xanadu (1990), the first web markets at Foresight Exchange (1994), DARPA's Policy Analysis Market (2001-2003), and IARPA's combinatorial markets (2010-2015). As Associate Professor of Economics at George Mason University and Research Associate at Oxford's Future of Humanity Institute, Hanson holds a doctorate from CalTech, master's degrees from the University of Chicago, and brings nine years of research programming experience from Lockheed and NASA. In This Episode: (00:00) Introduction to Professor Robin Hanson - What are prediction markets and how do they work mechanically? (08:27) Information aggregation as the primary value for institutional investors (14:42) Regulatory framework and platform risks in prediction markets (19:16) Market manipulation concerns and why markets get more accurate (24:57) Decision markets and conditional estimates for better choices (30:19) Political disruption and organizational resistance to independent information (33:06) Long-term potential and future growth of prediction markets Like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might be interested, and please take time to leave us a review! Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including C/79 Consulting, Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations. Resources: Professor Robin Hanson: Biography: https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/bio Publications/Vita: https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/vita.html George Mason University Profile: https://ec... Chapters (00:00:00) - Financial Markets: Are They Gambling?(00:00:39) - The Institutional Edge: Prediction Markets(00:02:24) - Prediction Markets(00:02:47) - What are Prediction Markets?(00:05:41) - Will Computational Market Making Affect Investment?(00:11:56) - Prediction Markets: How Does the Settlement Process Work?(00:14:36) - Can you speak to the regulatory framework surrounding this, the prediction markets(00:16:15) - Crypto: The Risks(00:19:03) - Speculative Markets vs Expert Forecasts(00:24:44) - What Is a Prediction Market and a Decision Market?(00:29:15) - Decisions made in a speculative world(00:32:35) - Prediction Markets

    37 min

  8. FEB 3

    Part II: AGI and Quantum – Betina Kitzler on AI's Next Chapter

    Can AI pass the "coffee test"—problem-solving when things break? In Part II of this Institutional Edge episode, host Angelo Calvello and Betina Kitzler, MIT Sloan Fellow and AI advisor, explore AGI timelines and quantum computing commercialization. Kitzler introduces the "coffee test" for AGI—whether AI can problem-solve when systems break—and argues that investors should focus on high-value, specific problems, such as AlphaFold's protein-folding breakthrough, rather than theoretical general intelligence. She explains that quantum computing remains in the research phase despite heavy VC investment, with potential applications in drug discovery and handling unpredictable "messy data." Her strategic advice: assemble cross-functional teams, test in sandbox environments, and combine structured and unstructured data for measurable ROI in 2026. Betina Kitzler has run 80M € P&Ls at global companies including Unilever and Mars, and led crisis response programs for the Austrian government. As an early GenAI advisor, she helps global leadership teams translate emerging AI capabilities into practical operating models. An MIT Sloan Fellow, Kitzler specializes in making organizational transformation work in the real world, not just in PowerPoints. She currently advises an MIT deeptech venture on quantum simulation commercialization and writes a weekly newsletter called "AI and the Daily Madness," which has become essential reading for professionals interested in AI's practical applications. Her expertise bridges technical capability and business execution. In This Episode: (00:00) Welcome to Part II, AGI prospects and expert disagreement (04:43) The coffee test for AGI and focusing on high-value problems (06:11) AlphaFold breakthrough, solving specific problems for societal impact (11:14) Quantum computing fundamentals, research phase and commercialization timeline (17:09) Qubits, messy data, and simulation tools for unpredictable systems (20:00) Strategic advice for institutional investors implementing AI in 2026 Send me your ideas on how to pitch an AI strategy! Like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might be interested, and please take time to leave us a review! Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations. Resources: LinkedIn Newsletter: AI and the Daily Madness https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/ai-and-the-daily-madness-7054518601348734976/ LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betinakitzler/ Email Angelo: Angelo.Calvello@pionline.com Email Julie: Chapters (00:00:00) - The Institute: Quantitative Investing(00:01:07) - Quantum Computing and AI: The AGI Question(00:05:44) - Will AI Get to AGI?(00:09:31) - Q&A: Deep Tech and AGI(00:10:45) - What's Quantum Computing(00:12:34) - Qubits and the Future of Computing(00:18:50) - How to Build a Business on LinkedIn(00:19:25) - WSJD Live: Institutional Investors and AI(00:21:31) - In the Elevator With AGI(00:24:18) - What's The Line Between Ethics & AI?

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Welcome to The Institutional Edge: Real allocators. Real alpha! Dr. Angelo Calvello hosts this exciting new podcast partnership with Pensions & Investments, designed to cut through the noise in institutional investing. Unlike other investment podcasts filled with vendor pitches and rambling biographical stories, this series delivers focused 30-minute episodes featuring real asset owners who actually deploy capital. Get ready for authentic insights that challenge conventional thinking and help you make smarter investment decisions. About the Host: Dr. Angelo Calvello is a serial innovator and co-founder of multiple investment firms, including Rosetta Analytics and Blue Diamond Asset Management. He leverages his extensive professional network and reputation for authentic thought leadership to curate conversations with genuinely innovative allocators. As the "Dissident" columnist for Institutional Investor and former "Doctor Is In" columnist for Chief Investment Officer (winner of the 2016 Jesse H. Neal Award), Calvello has become a leading voice challenging conventional investment wisdom. Beyond his professional pursuits, Calvello serves as Chairman of the Maryland State Retirement and Pension System's Climate Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Board of Outreach with Lacrosse and Schools (OWLS Lacrosse), a nonprofit organization creating opportunities for at-risk youths in Chicago, and trustee for a Chicago-area police pension fund. His career-long focus on leveraging innovation to deliver superior client outcomes makes him the ideal host for cutting-edge institutional investing conversations.

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