Growth Under Pressure

Eric Josovitz

Growth Under Pressure pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to scale fast. Hosted by Eric Josovitz, Founder of AdaptCFO, each episode features leaders of high-growth companies sharing their toughest financial and operational challenges—from cash flow crunches to major fundraising milestones—and the strategies that got them through. Whether you're navigating rapid growth or gearing up for it, you'll get real-world stories and actionable CFO insights you can put to work in your own business

  1. FEB 9

    Turning early business failure into a community-first franchise model — with Ken Wimberly (EP 014) | Growth Under Pressure

    Episode Description Ken Wimberly joins Eric Josovitz to share how his path from Navy service to real estate and entrepreneurship ultimately led to building Laundry Luv—a laundromat concept designed around families, community service, and childhood literacy. They discuss early business failures, the importance of focus, and what it really takes to turn a local operation into a scalable franchise with impact. Show Notes Ken Wimberly is a veteran, real estate operator, and entrepreneur who has built and rebuilt multiple businesses across his career. In this conversation, he explains the lessons from a failed first venture, how he found traction in land brokerage and investing, and why he narrowed his focus to Laundry Luv. Ken also shares how Laundry Luv differentiates through clean, family-friendly stores and monthly community activations, along with a candid Growth Under Pressure moment about shutting down a funded mobile app, navigating depression, and rebuilding with transparency and better health. — 🌟 Highlights How a "perfect location" can still be a bad deal: the real estate lessons that sank Ken's first venture Bankruptcy at 30: humility, hubris, and why "no advisors" is an expensive strategy The rebuild: 11 months to the first deal, then compounding momentum in brokerage and investing The trap of running too many businesses at once—and why focus wins Laundry Luv's differentiation: clean, bright, family-first stores (kids' play areas, books, rocking chairs) Laundry as a "Trojan horse for service": monthly community activations and local partnerships Childhood literacy as an operational KPI: tracking books given away per store Co-parenting after divorce: aligning on rules/values, putting kids first, and using a neutral counselor Growth Under Pressure: shutting down a funded app, investor conversations, and the recovery journey Franchising truth: documenting what was intuitive, restructuring entities, and building "business-in-a-box" Scaling impact: the 100-store goal and plans for international expansion — ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — Intro: Eric welcomes Ken Wimberly 00:00:31 — Ken's origin story: Navy → degree → early career in finance/real estate modeling 00:01:44 — First business venture: licensing a pizza concept 00:02:03 — The real estate mistakes: oversized space, weak negotiating, no advisors 00:03:15 — Bankruptcy at 30: the hard reset and key lessons 00:03:57 — Entering land brokerage: taking a commission-only bet 00:05:08 — First commissions: the grind, then a breakthrough deal 00:05:35 — Scaling through real estate + learning entrepreneurship through Keller Williams 00:08:21 — "What not to do": too many ventures at once, then pulling back to focus 00:11:55 — Today's split: real estate stays, but laundry becomes the main mission 00:14:03 — Community activations: backpacks, screenings, gift cards, free laundry days 00:16:05 — Becoming a franchise: documenting systems and building repeatability 00:16:45 — Why Laundry Luv is different: designing for families (and comfort) 00:20:14 — Literacy mission: books, kids' spaces, and giving back at scale 00:23:50 — Parenting philosophy: communication, emotional intelligence, and respect for kids' voices 00:29:49 — Co-parenting after divorce: alignment, values, and consistency across households 00:34:23 — Growth Under Pressure: shutting down the app after raising capital 00:39:44 — Depression and recovery: transparency, health, supplements, and support 00:47:31 — The franchise build: legal restructure + investor alignment 00:52:05 — 100-store vision: scaling both business and literacy impact 00:58:01 — Rapid fire: KPI (books given away), book recs, founder under pressure principle 00:59:14 — Close — 🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results If you're scaling and want to avoid the financial and operational pitfalls discussed in this episode, AdaptCFO's bookkeeping → controller → fractional CFO model is built for this stage.

    1 hr
  2. JAN 26

    When "pay less tax" becomes the wrong goal — and why lifestyle beats write-offs — with Brandon Verner (EP 013) | Growth Under Pressure

    Episode Description A long-time CPA partner Brandon Verner joins Eric Josovitz to unpack what real tax strategy looks like for high earners and business owners: start with your life and your goals, then optimize the taxes. They talk through common "pay less tax" questions (including turning a home into a rental), why the right strategy depends on whether you actually want the operational burden (like being a landlord), how wealthy clients diversify over time, and what Brandon learned during a firm merger that collided with an unexpected leadership transition. The episode also covers client retention and "key person risk," how audits tend to get triggered, and Brandon's practical advice to never leave deductions or expenses behind. Show Notes Brandon Verner is a tax partner and CPA who has spent 25 years in public accounting, working primarily with small businesses and individuals and guiding clients through tax planning that connects business returns to personal returns. In this conversation, he explains why "how do I pay less tax?" is the wrong starting point if the decision doesn't fit your lifestyle, why real estate can be a strong strategy only if you're willing to operate it, and why many top earners stay focused on their core business until they have time to diversify. Brandon also shares a Growth Under Pressure moment during a firm merger when his father and long-time firm leader suddenly became unable to work, forcing an accelerated client transition and highlighting the retention risk that comes with relationship-based services. — 🌟 Highlights Why the best tax decisions start with lifestyle and risk tolerance, not deductions "Don't let tax wag the dog": the landlord question behind every rental "strategy" What Brandon sees in real returns: owner income flowing from business entities into personal planning Why many high earners stay concentrated in their operating business until they have bandwidth to diversify A Growth Under Pressure moment: navigating a merger while a key leader suddenly couldn't work The reality of client retention when the primary relationship contact changes, and how to reduce key person risk How audits tend to be "pointed" toward where the IRS believes money is on the table Brandon's default advice: don't leave deductions (or business expenses) behind—share more, not less Rapid fire: a podcast recommendation (The Money Guy) and the founder under pressure principle: take a breath — ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — Intro: Eric welcomes CPA partner Brandon Verner 00:00:17 — Brandon's path into accounting and why it clicked 00:01:28 — Early career choices: public accounting vs private industry 00:04:58 — 25 years in: why tax stays "intuitive" but always changing 00:07:44 — Leading through change: merger dynamics and decision-making in a bigger firm 00:09:41 — What Brandon's tax work covers: individuals, S corps, partnerships, and planning 00:10:42 — Typical client range: ~$1M to $50M revenue (and why ownership structure matters) 00:11:24 — "How can I pay less tax?" and why that's not the first question 00:12:16 — Rental strategy example: "Do you want to be a landlord?" 00:13:01 — Vacation rentals vs long-term rentals: when it works (and when costs eat the upside) 00:14:08 — Diversification: why focus often beats scattered investing (until you have time) 00:16:01 — Growth Under Pressure: merger timing + sudden inability for Brandon's father to work 00:19:20 — Client transition and retention risk when the primary relationship changes 00:21:09 — Introducing "other faces" at the firm without triggering client anxiety 00:23:09 — What Brandon expected from the merger vs what actually changed day-to-day 00:25:13 — Being the calm in a crisis: empathy, breathing room, and a step-by-step plan 00:26:15 — Mistakes and IRS notices: setting expectations and managing the timeline reality 00:27:10 — Audits today: targeted selection and why representation matters 00:32:40 — Rapid fire: deductions, expense capture, Money Guy podcast, and "take a breath" 00:34:59 — Close — 🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results If you're scaling and want to avoid the financial and operational pitfalls described in this episode, AdaptCFO's bookkeeping → controller → fractional CFO model is built for this stage.

    36 min
  3. JAN 12

    When going public before a recession tested cash discipline and leadership resilience — with Eileen Tobias (EP 012) | Growth Under Pressure

    Show Notes Eileen Tobias is a CFO and finance leader who helped take NetSuite public in 2007 and Dropbox public in 2018, and later served as CFO at Komodo Health while it remained a private, later-stage health tech company. She explains what truly changes when a company goes public, why strong processes and consistent metrics matter long before fundraising or diligence, and how scenario planning helps leaders stay steady when growth slows and cash gets tight. — 🌟 Highlights Why FP&A has become a common path into the CFO seat as the role shifts toward strategic finance What changes when you go public: broader accountability, quarterly cadence, and increased scrutiny IPO prep is more than a one-day milestone, it requires readiness across leadership, employees, and governance Why early-stage teams chase revenue first and postpone process, and how that catches up during fundraising or M&A The risk of "metric shopping" and changing KPI definitions instead of fixing the underlying business performance A Growth Under Pressure moment: going public before the Great Recession and navigating churn and slowed growth How finance leaders plan for volatility with scenario planning, cash focus, and a prioritized list of investments — ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — Eileen's background: liberal arts to public accounting and tech finance 02:10 — From early cloud adoption to today's AI wave in finance 04:10 — Getting to the CFO seat through FP&A and long-term mentorship 07:25 — Two IPOs, two playbooks: NetSuite (2007) vs Dropbox (2018) 10:40 — What companies trade off when they become public: cadence, scrutiny, and long-term focus 12:49 — What it takes to prepare for an IPO beyond "ringing the bell" 15:50 — Advising earlier-stage companies and building a financial foundation early 17:04 — IPO readiness: scale expectations, profitability focus, and Rule of 40/50 talk 19:42 — Early-stage versus later-stage operations: revenue urgency vs repeatable processes 22:36 — Clean financials and consistent metrics: why diligence gets harder when records are messy 24:57 — The recession-era pressure test: resilience through churn and slower growth 34:11 — Tools, AI, CEO–CFO dynamics, and rapid-fire closing questions — 🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results If you're scaling and want to avoid the financial and operational pitfalls described in this episode, AdaptCFO's bookkeeping → controller → fractional CFO model is built for this stage.

    45 min
  4. 12/29/2025

    When a $12M pipeline evaporated and forced a shift to recurring revenue — with Annie Eaton

    Annie Eaton is the CEO of Futurus, an extended reality (XR/VR) company that started from an Atlanta meetup in 2014 and grew into enterprise training work with customers like Delta, Walmart, and Mars. She shares the cash-flow volatility of project-based services (including layoffs and stalled deals) and how she's building a licensing model to create more predictable recurring revenue. — 🌟 Highlights How education-first selling and partner referrals led to enterprise customers like Delta, Walmart, and Mars Why Annie won't celebrate a deal until the contract is signed, especially with long enterprise sales cycles Narrowing the business to hard-skills safety and process training and why manufacturing makes ROI easier to measure A customer reported employees trained in VR operating 18% more efficiently than traditional training after six months The Delta deicing training that scaled proficiency checks from 3 to 150 people per day per site in VR Building recurring revenue with ZR Industrial, a licensable library of OSHA-based safety training simulations Letting go of control earlier, plus how maternity leave became the forcing function to build backups and trust the team — ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — Landing big customers through referrals and partnerships 00:38 — Annie's background and the meetup that sparked Futurus 01:23 — Early consulting engagements and turning VR interest into a business (2014) 04:00 — The CEO job: constant education and setting expectations on what VR can and can't do 05:55 — Degrees, self-teaching, and hiring for skill over credentials 09:16 — Inbound and partner-led growth, plus a newer outbound motion that stays educational 13:24 — Focusing on manufacturing safety and process training and proving ROI with metrics 16:00 — Delta's deicing proficiency program and scaling training in VR 18:59 — The push for recurring revenue and the launch of ZR Industrial licensing 21:48 — Cash-flow scares, layoffs, and deals getting delayed or canceled 27:58 — Tools, hardware, and where AI fits (and doesn't) in XR production 39:27 — Founder lessons: delegating earlier, offsites, and the weekly metric Annie watches — 🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results

    49 min
  5. 12/15/2025

    How a top-performing IPO unraveled under scrutiny (and reshaped my leadership) — with Darryl Baker

    Fractional CFO Darryl Baker shares how taking Insys Therapeutics public in 2013 and scaling its fentanyl sublingual spray product (Subsys) into over $300M in annual revenue by 2015 collided with DOJ scrutiny, leadership fallout, and bankruptcy. He unpacks what helped him lead through broken trust and personal uncertainty, plus the simple weekly discipline he uses with every client: cash position and a 13-week cash forecast. — 🌟 Highlights Why interpersonal "translator" skills matter as much as technical strength for CFO-level leadership How Darryl thinks AI will amplify finance, but still needs human judgment and risk context The Insys "growth under pressure" moment: rapid growth followed by DOJ scrutiny and a company bankruptcy Leading through broken trust, tense internal dynamics, and personal fear of legal fallout The family lesson he emphasized at home: integrity, honesty, and choosing the people you surround yourself with What he would do differently: be less trusting and push harder on uncomfortable questions The weekly metric he checks without fail: cash position and a 13-week cash forecast — ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — AI + human judgment: why finance still needs people in the loop 00:43 — Early influences and why he chose accounting and finance 02:27 — Ernst & Young, CPA roots, and building a foundation for the CFO seat 04:52 — The "translator" CFO: technical skill plus interpersonal leadership 10:43 — Fractional CFO life in Scottsdale and the value of variety 11:58 — Anuncio Medical: the Reflow Mini device and why the mission matters 14:28 — A $6M Series A raise in progress and what fundraising looks like up close 15:08 — Board work at NeoLight and working with an NFL investor (Ben Roethlisberger) 20:11 — AI in healthcare: data, proof, and responsible interpretation 22:31 — Insys Therapeutics: 2013 IPO, Subsys growth, and the opioid scrutiny wave 32:34 — Dinner-table conversations: integrity, influence, and surrounding yourself with good people 37:40 — Lessons and rebuild: skepticism, purpose, and staying calm "in the pocket" — 🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results

    50 min
  6. 12/01/2025

    How Joe Testouri Rebuilt After a £53K Scam and Built an AI Consultancy — with Joe Testouri

    Joe Testouri is an entrepreneur, strategist, and host of the Grappling With Growth podcast who built an AI-focused agency and education business after early hustles, pivots, and a devastating financial scam. His story shows how founders can recover from crisis, adopt AI to scale more efficiently, and stay grounded through discipline, humility, and customer obsession. — 🌟 Highlights Building a business from childhood hustles and side projects to a full pivot into AI systems and automation The £53K bank scam that almost wiped out his cash and how he fought to make payroll and keep the team together Why becoming obsessed with customer experience is the real lever behind lifetime value and growth How AI agents, automation, and custom workflows are replacing low-value tasks and making small teams more efficient The role of humility, consistency, and health—reinforced by jiu-jitsu and a serious back injury—in navigating founder pressure Why founders must stay curious, collaborate instead of compete, and reject "victim mentality" when things go wrong — ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — Defining growth: getting 1% better and leading with integrity and compassion 02:20 — Lessons from hosting Grappling With Growth and learning from founders around the world 04:30 — Childhood entrepreneurship, getting bullied at school, and quitting banking to start his own agency 09:50 — From ad agency to AI consultancy: rebranding, blue-ocean thinking, and focusing on efficiency 17:00 — Building AI-powered outreach, scheduling agents, and improving customer experience and LTV 24:30 — Practical AI tools founders can use daily (Whisperflow, Fireflies, Gamma, and more) 33:00 — Growth under pressure: losing £53K to fraud, scrambling for payroll, and getting the money back 44:20 — Finance discipline, the value of strong accounting partners, and why founders shouldn't DIY everything 48:40 — The real founder journey: health scares, burnout risk, and engineering healthier team cultures 55:40 — Jiu-jitsu, humility, and why business isn't a zero-sum game 59:00 — Rapid fire: watching cash balances, a must-read book, and advice for founders under pressure — 🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results If you're scaling and want to avoid the financial and operational pitfalls described in this episode, AdaptCFO's bookkeeping → controller → fractional CFO model is built for this stage.

    1h 3m
  7. 11/17/2025

    600 Fortune 500 clients to $25M raised: How Music Dealers' exit launched a retail media empire – with Eric Sheinkop

    Eric Sheinkop built Music Dealers into the world's largest commercial music provider serving Disney, McDonald's, and Coca-Cola before successfully exiting. He then raised $25M with his wife Judith, a former Coca-Cola executive, to launch Desire Company, now the leading content provider for Target, Walmart, and Best Buy. From discovering McDonald's royalty checks weren't a mistake to coming up $20K short on payroll, Eric reveals why the founders who win are those who treat their mission like religion and their ego like poison. 🌟 Highlights World's largest music dealer: 600+ clients including Disney, McDonald's, Coca-Cola The 2008 goldmine: Replaced $1M famous songs with $10K indie tracks McDonald's royalty revelation: "My brother said 'Do that again'" $20K short on payroll: The moment that defines every founder Coca-Cola exec to startup reality: Judith's six-month wake-up call Ego tax: "I opened 7 offices because the business card looked cool" $25M raised, 30 employees, 7000 sq ft studio—second time's the charm Mission as North Star: "When you see our seal, you know it's real" ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — Music industry calling: Wanted the business, not the stage 03:00 — The royalty discovery: McDonald's checks that changed everything 07:00 — Financial crisis opportunity: How 2008 created Music Dealers 13:00 — Desire Company today: Dominating retail media networks 20:00 — Growth under pressure moment: Payroll crisis and empty bank 24:00 — Partner pressure: When Judith left Coca-Cola for startup life 29:00 — Expensive education: Product-market fit should come first 33:00 — Leadership evolution: From ego to empowerment 39:00 — Protecting the partnership: Family time and bathroom business bans 43:00 — Lemonade legacy: Teaching 3-year-old Stiles entrepreneurship 47:00 — Mission focus: "Never compromise on why you started" 🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results

    50 min
  8. 11/03/2025

    From infantry veteran to Dragons' Den to exit: A founder's unconventional journey, with Jon Caldwell

    Jon Caldwell built a brand from zero to a profitable exit after serving in the infantry in Afghanistan. When a 4-month Dragons Den delay created a working capital challenge, he self-funded through a software sales role, hitting 120% of quota while scaling his company. Now the founder of 3Victor, he shares the unconventional path that taught him why disciplined execution beats perfect strategy.   🌟 Highlights Dragons Den sweep: All 5 Dragons made offers The 4x inventory bet: Calculated risk that returned 3-4x wholesale growth Exit timing: "Either grow aggressively or get out" - knowing when to sell B2B growth playbook: Outbound → Content → Paid (in that exact order) Military to startups: discipline and transition Focus beats everything: Why saying no to shiny objects accelerates growth The $200 ChatGPT investment that replaces a $50K employee   ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 — Intro & dual childhood dream: military + entrepreneurship 03:00 — From SDR to founder: selling sensors → selling pet supplements 07:00 — 3Victor today: B2B go-to-market consulting & AI revolution 14:00 — Growth under pressure: The Dragons Den working capital crisis 17:00 — Strategic pivot: Self-funding through sales role (120% quota achievement) 20:00 — Behind Dragons Den: puppies, pin-stripes, and 45-minute pitches 26:00 — Cash flow lessons: "I didn't know fractional CFOs existed" 29:00 — Exit timing: friend's acquisition sparks the conversation 33:00 — Focus vs. shiny objects: The most common founder mistake 38:00 — Rejection philosophy: "Every great founder faces immense rejection" 44:00 — Rapid-fire: Zero to One & "Keep your cool under pressure"   🙌 Want more from AdaptCFO? Free CFO consultation → adaptcfo.com Financial fitness scorecard → adaptcfofinancialfitness.scoreapp.com Other episodes → adaptcfo.com/blog AdaptCFO case studies → adaptcfo.com/results

    46 min

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Growth Under Pressure pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to scale fast. Hosted by Eric Josovitz, Founder of AdaptCFO, each episode features leaders of high-growth companies sharing their toughest financial and operational challenges—from cash flow crunches to major fundraising milestones—and the strategies that got them through. Whether you're navigating rapid growth or gearing up for it, you'll get real-world stories and actionable CFO insights you can put to work in your own business