We get into A LOT this episode with Che Durena, stand-up strategy, crowd work as clip farming, bombing, opening for Bert Kreischer including a 12,000-person show at Scotiabank Arena, the Kevin Hart LOL Network deal, how leaning into the adult content space turned into a full lane and the audience came * wink *, OnlyFans changing the industry, recognizing a porn star from her amateur days all the way to Brazzers and genuinely being proud of her, sexual compatibility, a sex toy collab that may or may not happen, Twitter being completely lawless, and Bills Mafia energy, because of course. Che's standup special "How to Make Your Balls Bigger" is out now on Youtube and Kevin Hart's channel, and his podcast Two Goons goes deep with porn stars, OnlyFans creators, and anyone willing to say what's on their mind. Chapters 00:09 – Che Durena, his dad escaping a Haitian dictator, and being named after Che Guevara 01:22 – Why Madi wears a Bills hat to every event and how sports is the best networking tool in any room 04:25 – Bills Mafia tailgates, 2,000 people, Machine Gun Kelly's stunt double, and a Power Slap invite to Vegas 05:44 – How Che manages seven million Tiktok followers, auxiliary accounts, and why he brings a comedian as his videographer on the road 08:36 – Bombing on stage, 12 years of standup, and why taking risks is the whole point 09:32 – Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy as idols, Dave Chappelle teasing Drake in Toronto, and who actually came out 10:55 – The Kevin Hart LOL special and why the title changed from something even more clickbait 13:34 – Grinding standup for eight years during COVID, learning TikTok by obsessing over the algorithm, and why 3,000 views on TikTok beat a sold-out 150-person room 15:46 – Instagram curation pages getting nuked, the TikTok vs. Instagram growth rate debate, and why Caleb Presley's team found Madi 18:12 – Che opening for Bert Kreischer, performing for 12,000 at Scotiabank Arena, and the Wells Fargo Center after party 20:39 – Why comedians stay dingy on purpose, The Stand as the sexiest club in New York, and how Caleb Presley's tequila brand ended up at a Bills game 24:48 – Mason Monroe doing standup on the subway in a demon costume, burning material vs. building a standup audience, and how Che is figuring out his version of that 28:52 – Che's niche in adult entertainment, the microplastics sketch that went on Instagram, and why he pitches these jokes to OnlyFans girls instead of female comics 33:47 – How OnlyFans changed control for creators, Angela White as the most famous person in porn, and what makes Two Goons different 39:00 – Two hours of research per guest, wanting to Nardwuar people, and Madi admitting she's sometimes too much of a yapper 41:44 – Madi wanting to invent a sex toy, Che offering to connect her, and where to find his special on Kevin Hart's Youtube Come on the pod, sponsor an episode, collab, or just reach out ▫️ https://linktr.ee/maditellsall Follow my world outside the podcast (food, tailgates, health, behind-the-scenes life) ▫️ https://linktr.ee/madelinehall.nyc Thanks for being here guys. Like, share and subscribe! Catch me yap same time next week, bring snacks! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices