Debate The News: True Crime

Debate The News: True Crime

Debate the News: True Crime, hosted by Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco, brings listeners in-depth coverage of current and past true crime cases in an innovative, debate-style format. Each episode brings together a dynamic panel of sharp-witted community members to debate and dissect cases as they unfold – all in a bold, fact-driven style that pulls no punches. The show is recorded live on the Chatter Social app at 7PM (Eastern Time) every Thursday night. Listeners can join in on the conversation and listen to the live recording by downloading the Chatter Social app from the Apple App Store or Google Play store. Shows recorded on Thursday nights are released as a podcast episode on all platforms the following Thursday.

  1. The Kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart

    7H AGO

    The Kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart

    Why did the 2002 Salt Lake City kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart become one of the most unforgettable abduction cases in modern true crime history? How did a crime that began in the upscale Federal Heights neighborhood turn into a national manhunt, a controversial early focus on the wrong suspect, and a years-long fight for justice after Elizabeth was finally found alive? In this episode, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco revisit The Kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart — the abduction of 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart from her family’s home in Salt Lake City, Utah, her nine months of captivity under Brian David Mitchell (who called himself “Emmanuel”) and Wanda Barzee, and the legal road that followed, shaped by delayed proceedings, competency battles, and public outrage over sentencing and release decisions. 🔗THE ELIZABETH SMART FOUNDATION: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org ⚠️ Content warning: This episode includes discussions of child abduction, sexual assault, and psychological coercion. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know needs support, help may be available via the Crisis Lifeline by dialing 988. Tune in to hear: June 5, 2002 – Elizabeth Smart abducted from her Salt Lake City bedroom: An intruder enters the Smart home through a window after cutting a screen, and Elizabeth’s 9-year-old sister Mary Catherine becomes the only eyewitness — too terrified to immediately raise the alarm. June 2002 – National manhunt and a massive community search: Police, the FBI, and volunteers scour neighborhoods, foothills, and canyons as the reward reportedly surges to $250,000 within days; when burned remains are found nearby, the family endures a terrifying moment before learning it is not Elizabeth. Summer 2002 – Early tunnel vision on handyman Richard Ricci: Investigators focus heavily on Richard Ricci, a handyman who worked in the Smart home; he is jailed on unrelated matters, denies involvement, and later dies in custody on August 30, 2002 — with later reporting indicating he was not responsible, raising hard questions about investigative tunnel vision. 2002–2003 – Captivity under Brian David Mitchell and Wanda Barzee: While the public searches, Elizabeth is held by Mitchell (a drifter and self-styled religious prophet) and Barzee; she is allegedly isolated through threats, abuse, and religious control, and kept disguised in layered clothing with robes and a veil while being moved in public — including travel beyond Utah and time in the San Diego area. Breakthrough lead – Mary Catherine recognizes “Emmanuel”: Months after the abduction, Mary Catherine tells her parents she believes the voice she heard belonged to “Emmanuel,” a man who previously worked at their home; frustrated with the pace, the family goes public with a sketch, tips pour in, and “Emmanuel” is identified as Brian David Mitchell. March 12, 2003 – Rescue after nine months: Multiple people report seeing a man, a woman, and a girl in disguise in a Salt Lake City suburb; police detain the group, Elizabeth initially denies her identity, but officers separate her from the adults and she is ultimately identified and reunited with her family. Mitchell and Barzee are arrested. 2003–2010 – The long, controversial road to court: The legal process drags for years amid battles over mental competency, repeatedly postponing Elizabeth’s day in court and fueling public anger. November 17, 2009 – Wanda Barzee pleads guilty:...

    59 min
  2. The Case of Anne Boleyn (with Vashon)

    FEB 12

    The Case of Anne Boleyn (with Vashon)

    In this episode, host Joseph Lobosco is joined by guest host Vashon to unpack The Case of Anne Boleyn — the rise, fall, and execution of England’s most infamous queen, and the chilling questions at the heart of this Tudor-era true crime story. Along the way, we explore how Henry’s obsession with a male heir helped fuel the English Reformation, expand treason law, and weaponize the courts — and why Anne’s story still resonates in today’s conversations about coerced confessions, propaganda, and capital punishment. ⚠️ Listener discretion: This episode includes discussions of execution, graphic violence, and allegations of sexual misconduct. If you or someone you know needs support, help may be available via the Crisis Lifeline by dialing 988. Alt Anne Boleyn ⚖️ Disclaimer: Debate the News: True Crime Edition is for informational and discussion purposes only. We are not attorneys, law enforcement officers, medical professionals, or professional historians. While we research each case, the show is recorded live with little to no editing; any factual errors are unintentional. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Listener discretion is advised. Guest and audience views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts or Debate The News. Alt Anne Boleyn Speakers: → Joseph Lobosco — Host → Vashon — Guest Host → Lauren LaPointe — Guest Contributor Credits: “Debate The News: True Crime” "The Case of Anne Boleyn" Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. Lobosco Producers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci and Jonathan Bing Writers: Vashon & Joseph R. Lobosco Editor: Joseph R. Lobosco Cover Art: Joseph R. Lobosco Special Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social team Theme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release] Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds Free Download/Stream: ncs.io/karma Watch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube 🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime Production Download the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).

    1h 12m
  3. Murder in Mississippi: Ole Miss Student Jimmie “Jay” Lee & Sheldon “Timothy” Herrington

    FEB 5

    Murder in Mississippi: Ole Miss Student Jimmie “Jay” Lee & Sheldon “Timothy” Herrington

    In this episode, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco dive into Murder in Mississippi: Sheldon “Timothy” Herrington & Ole Miss Student Jimmie “Jay” Lee — the July 2022 disappearance and murder of University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) student Jimmie “Jay” Lee, and the winding path from a missing-person report to a capital murder case, a mistrial, and a shocking guilty plea. From digital evidence and surveillance footage to the controversial bond decision, this Oxford, Mississippi true crime story raises big questions about motive, secrecy, and whether you can — or should — convict someone of murder without a body. Tune in to hear: July 8, 2022 – Disappearance of Ole Miss student Jimmie “Jay” Lee: In the early morning hours, 20-year-old Jay leaves his Oxford apartment around dawn and never returns. When he can’t be reached and misses plans later that day, concern escalates. Police initially treat it as a missing-person case — but not for long. Early investigation – Focus shifts to Sheldon “Timothy” Herrington Jr: Detectives identify Sheldon Timothy Herrington Jr., a 22-year-old Ole Miss graduate, as a key contact connected to Jay’s last known communications and movements. Prosecutors later argue Jay went to Herrington’s apartment that morning — and never left alive. Chilling digital evidence – The strangulation search: Investigators claim Herrington searched “how long does it take to strangle someone?” shortly before the meetup window, and the state later frames that search as intent and premeditation. Days later – Jay’s car found abandoned: Jay’s Ford Fusion is discovered at the Molly Barr Trails apartment complex in Oxford. His belongings are still inside, but Jay is missing — a detail investigators interpret as consistent with foul play, not a voluntary disappearance. Surveillance timeline – The staging theory: Investigators say video captures Herrington near where Jay’s car was left, leaving on foot, and later getting a ride. Prosecutors describe the abandoned vehicle as staging — dumping the car to create confusion and buy time. Walmart purchase – Duct tape on the morning Jay vanished:Investigators say Herrington bought duct tape that morning, a purchase the prosecution treats as potentially significant when paired with the larger concealment narrative. Movements and concealment – “This wasn’t yard work”:Prosecutors argue Herrington’s later movements — including travel toward Grenada and items like a shovel and wheelbarrow, plus use of a box truck tied to a moving business — align with a body disposal theory. Two weeks later – Arrest in a no-body homicide case: Herrington is arrested and charged despite no recovered body and no medically confirmed cause of death. Prosecutors argue the digital trail, surveillance, and behavior prove Jay is dead and Herrington killed him. Bond controversy – Risk vs. rights: A judge initially denies bond, but Herrington is later released under conditions — sparking outrage and debate because Jay is still missing, while others argue due process and “innocent until proven guilty” still applies. Capital murder indictment – The high-risk “no-body” prosecution: Herrington is indicted for capital murder. Prosecutors prepare to prove murder without a body; the defense leans hard on the lack of a body, lack of cause of death, and lack of direct forensic evidence. Late 2024 – First trial ends in mistrial: Prosecutors emphasize the digital evidence, timing, surveillance, the duct tape purchase, the abandoned car, and concealment theories. The defense attacks assumptions and the absence of a body or definitive forensic...

    42 min
  4. The Ken & Barbie Killers: Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka (with AngiesWorld)

    JAN 27

    The Ken & Barbie Killers: Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka (with AngiesWorld)

    How did Paul Bernardo—Canada’s infamous “Scarborough Rapist”—and Karla Homolka present themselves as a picture‑perfect young couple while committing some of the most disturbing crimes in Canadian true crime history? And how did a controversial plea deal, a publication ban, and hidden videotape evidence turn the “Ken and Barbie Killers” case into a decades‑long national outrage in Canada? In this episode, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco, joined by guest host Angiesworld, revisit the Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka case—from the late‑1980s Scarborough Rapist attacks in Scarborough (Toronto), to the deaths of Tammy Homolka, Leslie Mahaffy, and Kristen French, to the “deal with the devil” plea bargain that still fuels debate about justice, accountability, and public safety. This true crime podcast discussion breaks down the Ontario timeline, the DNA breakthrough, the discovery of hidden videotapes, Bernardo’s first‑degree murder convictions and “dangerous offender” designation, Homolka’s release and reentry into society, and the parole and prison‑transfer controversies that continue to reignite anger across Canada. Tune in to hear: 1987–1990 – The Scarborough Rapist spree in Scarborough, Toronto: An unknown assailant stalks and sexually assaults over a dozen women while police struggle for leads—unaware the attacker is 23‑year‑old Paul Bernardo, who outwardly appears clean‑cut, educated, and “normal.” October 1987–1989 – A romance begins behind the façade: Bernardo meets 17‑year‑old Karla Homolka in Scarborough, and their “perfect couple” image takes shape—an engagement by Christmas 1989—masking a violent, predatory double life. December 23, 1990 – Tammy Homolka’s death: Karla’s 15‑year‑old sister Tammy dies after being drugged with sedatives stolen from Karla’s workplace during a “sinister experiment” orchestrated by the couple—an event initially treated as an accident. June 15–29, 1991 – Leslie Mahaffy abducted and murdered: Fourteen‑year‑old Leslie Mahaffy disappears from Burlington, Ontario after missing her curfew; she is held captive for roughly 24 hours, sexually assaulted and tortured, then killed—her body dismembered, encased in concrete, and dumped in Lake Gibson as Bernardo and Homolka marry in a lavish June 29 ceremony. April 16–30, 1992 – Kristen French abducted and killed: Fifteen‑year‑old Kristen French is taken in broad daylight from a church parking lot in St. Catharines, Ontario; she is held for days, brutalized, and ultimately strangled—her body discovered later that month, shocking Canada and triggering a massive investigation. January 5–February 17, 1993 – The partnership implodes and police close in: After years of domestic violence, Homolka leaves Bernardo following a severe beating as investigators finally match Bernardo’s DNA to multiple Scarborough Rapist cases—leading to his arrest at their Port Dalhousie home and an exhaustive search for evidence tied to the murders. May–July 6, 1993 – The plea deal that changed everything: Prosecutors strike a controversial bargain with Homolka—two counts of manslaughter for her role in the deaths of Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French—resulting in a 12‑year sentence and a promise of immunity, while the deal remains under a publication ban. September 22, 1994 – Hidden videotapes surface: Investigators recover videotapes Bernardo recorded and concealed inside the home—graphic evidence that includes crimes against Tammy, Leslie, Kristen, and another teen victim, and shows Homolka actively participating—sparking outrage and the belief the plea bargain was a gross miscarriage of justice. May–September 1, 1995 – Trial of Paul Bernardo: With Homolka’s testimony and the videos, the Crown prosecutes Bernardo; despite defense claims attempting to shift blame, he is found guilty of first‑degree murder and sentenced to life

    49 min
  5. Scandal: International House of Prayer (with Heather Ford)

    JAN 20

    Scandal: International House of Prayer (with Heather Ford)

    How did the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOPKC)—a globally influential 24/7 prayer ministry—become the center of a sweeping scandal involving allegations of sexual assault, grooming, and spiritual manipulation? What happens when a charismatic evangelical leader is accused of abusing power for decades—yet faces no criminal charges as survivors push for accountability and legal reform? In this episode, host Joseph Lobosco and guest host Heather Ford unpack the IHOPKC scandal surrounding founder Mike Bickle, tracing allegations that span nearly five decades and examining how internal reviews, an independent investigation, and public fallout reshaped one of the most recognizable names in the modern prayer and prophetic movement. PURCHASE Heather Ford's new book: https://a.co/d/ctoy47H "The Barbie Pink Wall that Kept My Secrets of Abuse: A Memoir of the Spiritual, Physical and Sexual Abuse I Went Through Within the Walls of a Religious Cult" Tune in to hear: 1970s–early IHOPKC years – Allegations spanning nearly five decades: Multiple women later reported that Mike Bickle used spiritual authority to groom, manipulate, and sexually exploit them, with alleged conduct ranging from inappropriate sexual contact to coercion and rape—at least two survivors were minors at the time of the alleged abuse. 1999 – IHOPKC founded in Kansas City: How IHOPKC grew its international influence through a 24/7 prayer model, a ministry school, and global affiliates—while Bickle was widely viewed as a spiritual authority and father figure. October 2023 – Scandal goes public: Three former senior IHOPKC leaders—Dwayne Roberts, Brian Kim, and Wes Martin—came forward with allegations from multiple women, stating the accounts were independent, credible, and showed a longstanding pattern of abuse. October 28, 2023 – Leave from ministry duties: IHOPKC placed Bickle on leave while claims were reviewed, then faced backlash after an internal review questioned allegations and suggested whistleblowers had improper motives—drawing criticism for a process seen as lacking independence and transparency. December 12, 2023 – Public statement: Bickle admitted to “inappropriate behavior” more than 20 years earlier while denying more serious allegations. December 22, 2023 – Severed ties & investigations: IHOPKC announced it permanently severed ties with Bickle after “new information” confirmed misconduct disqualifying him from ministry; multiple senior leaders resigned in the following weeks as investigations moved forward. December 2023–February 3, 2025 – Independent Firefly investigation: A fully independent investigation commissioned by former IHOPKC leaders reviewed thousands of documents and conducted over 200 interviews—concluding in a public report that Mike Bickle sexually abused or exploited at least 17 victims over nearly five decades, detailing grooming, coercion, spiritual manipulation, and repeated leadership failure. 2024–early 2025 – Why criminal charges may be difficult: Statute-of-limitations barriers, the passage of time, and evidence challenges—plus allegations that victims were discouraged from contacting law enforcement or even journaling—raise questions about what accountability can look like when misconduct is decades old. 2024–early 2025 – Survivors advocate for legal change: One alleged victim’s report to police decades later is described as powerfully symbolic, as survivors connected to IHOPKC also testified in the Missouri State legislature advocating to end statutes of limitations for child sexual abuse cases. 2025–early 2026 – Aftermath, reforms, and unresolved accountability: IHOPKC shut down its ministry school, restructured leadership, and pledged reforms; an independent pastoral review ruled that Mike Bickle is permanently disqualified...

    43 min
  6. The Death of Shanquella Robinson

    JAN 13

    The Death of Shanquella Robinson

    How did a birthday trip to Cabo San Lucas end with Shanquella Robinson dead in less than 24 hours? Why did her travel companions initially claim “alcohol poisoning” — and how did a viral assault video, conflicting autopsy findings, and a stalled U.S.–Mexico extradition fight turn the Shanquella Robinson case into one of the most haunting true crime mysteries of 2022? In this episode, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco revisit the death of 25‑year‑old Shanquella Robinson in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, breaking down the “Cabo Six” timeline, the shocking cell phone assault video, Mexico’s femicide arrest warrant, the FBI Charlotte investigation, and why U.S. federal prosecutors declined to file charges. This true crime podcast discussion explores the cross‑border legal roadblocks, the critical autopsy discrepancies between Mexico and North Carolina, and how the Robinson family’s wrongful death lawsuit may be the last path to uncovering what really happened inside that Cabo villa. Tune in to hear: October 28–29, 2022 – Cabo San Lucas birthday trip turns deadly: Shanquella Robinson travels from Charlotte, North Carolina to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico with six friends, is assaulted in a luxury villa the morning of October 29, and is later found unresponsive; after a delayed call for help, a doctor arrives, her condition deteriorates, and she is pronounced dead that evening. October 29, 2022 – The hours that raise the hardest questions: Investigators’ timeline places the altercation around 7:00–7:30 AM, a housekeeper finds Shanquella unresponsive around midday, and the group reportedly calls for medical help around 2:15 PM — setting up a major debate about delayed aid, negligence, and preventable loss of life. October 30, 2022 – The “alcohol poisoning” story and the family’s suspicions: Shanquella’s travel companions return to the U.S., bring her luggage to her family, and tell her mother, Celand Robinson, that she died from alcohol poisoning — a claim that quickly clashes with what investigators and reports later indicate. Mid‑November 2022 – The viral assault video that changed everything: A disturbing cell phone video leaks and spreads online, appearing to show Shanquella being beaten while others watch, contradicting early claims about her death and igniting international outrage and demands for justice. October–November 2022 – Mexican autopsy findings and a “violent” manner of death: Mexican medical examiners conduct a partial autopsy and record findings that point to a violent death, including severe spinal cord injury and “atlas luxation” — escalating the case into a homicide investigation. November 2022 – Mexico issues a femicide arrest warrant and seeks extradition: Mexican authorities identify a primary female aggressor and obtain an arrest warrant on femicide charges, while an extradition request and international alerts collide with the reality that the “Cabo Six” are already back in the United States. November 2022 – The FBI Charlotte investigation and tips about possible evidence: The FBI opens a parallel investigation, fields tips describing injuries and possible surveillance cameras, and coordinates with Mexican authorities as the case becomes a cross‑border legal standoff. November 17, 2022 – The U.S. autopsy conflict that reshapes the case: The Mecklenburg County Medical Examiner’s office performs an autopsy in North Carolina, reporting no spinal cord injury or broken neck and ultimately listing the cause of death as “undetermined” — creating a pivotal forensic contradiction that complicates prosecution and extradition. March–April 2023 – Calls for federal action and DOJ declines to prosecute: Family attorneys (including Ben Crump and Sue Ann Robinson) urge U.S. intervention, but on April 12, 2023, the Department of Justice and FBI inform the family...

    48 min
  7. The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway

    JAN 8

    The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway

    What happened to 18-year-old Natalee Holloway after she vanished on a 2005 graduation trip to Aruba—and why did the case remain unresolved for nearly two decades? Did investigators miss critical opportunities in the first hours, and can the public trust anything Joran van der Sloot has ever said after years of shifting stories and alleged lies? In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco revisit the full timeline of the Natalee Holloway disappearance, from her last known moments after a night out at Carlos and Charlie’s in Oranjestad to the U.S. extortion and wire fraud case, van der Sloot’s Peru imprisonment for the murder of Stephanie Flores Ramírez, and the bombshell 2023 guilty plea and confession that prosecutors say finally explained what happened. The live discussion also debates alleged investigative missteps, corruption claims, the credibility of van der Sloot’s confession, and what a school-sponsored senior trip should have done differently to keep students safe. Tune in to hear: May 30, 2005 – Natalee Holloway vanishes in Aruba: Natalee travels from Mountain Brook, Alabama to Aruba with classmates to celebrate graduation. On the final night, she is last seen leaving Carlos and Charlie’s around 1:30 AM with three local young men, including 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot, and then fails to board her flight home as search efforts by land and sea turn up no trace. June–September 2005 – Arrests, shifting stories, and no charges: Attention centers on van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, among the last known people with Natalee. The three are arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and murder, but with no physical evidence and inconsistent accounts, they are released without charges. 2006–2007 – Contradictions mount, the case stalls: The hosts walk through how van der Sloot’s story changes repeatedly—claims about dropping Natalee at a hotel contradicted by surveillance, plus later interviews that keep raising questions—while prosecutors still lack the evidence needed to move forward. November 2007 – Re-arrests and another release: Authorities arrest van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers again, but all are released within weeks for lack of evidence, leaving Natalee’s family and the public furious as the investigation loses momentum. Early 2008 – Hidden camera video and renewed attention: Dutch reporter Peter R. de Vries airs hidden-camera footage that appears to show van der Sloot implicating himself. The case is revisited, but officials cannot corroborate the statements on tape and no charges follow. March 2010 – FBI sting and extortion scheme: Nearly five years after Natalee disappears, van der Sloot allegedly demands $250,000 to reveal what happened and where her remains are. Beth Holloway alerts the FBI, a sting is arranged, and he receives $25,000 through a mix of cash and wire transfers—then later admits the story he sold the family was “worthless,” leading to federal wire fraud and extortion charges in the U.S. May 30, 2010 – Stephanie Flores Ramírez is killed in Peru: Exactly five years after Natalee vanished, 21-year-old Stephanie Flores Ramírez is found dead in a Lima hotel room registered to van der Sloot. He flees, is captured days later, and the case becomes a second tragedy tied to the same suspect. 2012 – Natalee is declared legally dead: An Alabama judge declares Natalee Holloway legally deceased as her

    40 min
  8. Missing on New Year's Eve: The Disappearance of Ana Walshe

    12/30/2025

    Missing on New Year's Eve: The Disappearance of Ana Walshe

    Did Ana Walshe really leave her Cohasset, Massachusetts home at 4:00 a.m. on New Year’s Day 2023 for a last‑minute “work emergency” — or was that the first lie in a deadly cover‑up? And how does a missing‑person report turn into a “no‑body” murder case built on digital breadcrumbs, blood evidence, and a trail of trash bags across the Boston suburbs? In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco revisit the disappearance of Ana Walshe, the 39‑year‑old mother of three who vanished after New Year’s Eve, and the investigation that led police to focus on her husband, Brian Walshe — culminating in a first‑degree murder conviction and a life‑without‑parole sentence even though Ana’s body was never recovered. Tune in to hear: January 1, 2023 – Last seen in Cohasset, MA: Brian Walshe claims Ana leaves their home around 4:00 a.m. for a supposed work emergency, heading to Boston’s Logan Airport for a flight to Washington, D.C. Investigators later find no evidence of an Uber/Lyft pickup and no proof she boarded any flight. January 4–7, 2023 – The missing-person report & search intensifies: Ana’s employer reports her missing after she fails to appear for work, prompting a welfare check at the home and a large‑scale search of the Walshe property and nearby woods. Police note suspicious details, including Brian’s Volvo cargo area appearing prepared for transport. January 1–2, 2023 – The Google-search trail: Prosecutors later reveal a chilling series of searches (made using a child’s iPad) including queries about body decomposition, dismemberment, and how long someone must be missing to inherit — suggesting planning as the public still hopes for Ana’s safe return. January 2–3, 2023 – Hardware-store purchases & dumpster runs: Surveillance footage shows Brian shopping for cleaning and disposal supplies (including a Tyvek suit, tarps, tape, and a hatchet) and then moving heavy trash bags to multiple dumpsters at apartment complexes — behavior investigators interpret as evidence disposal. January 8–9, 2023 – Search warrants, blood evidence, and the “trash pull”: A search of the home allegedly turns up blood evidence, and investigators trace dumpsters to a transfer station where they recover bags containing items prosecutors describe as blood‑soaked tools and materials, plus personal items tied to Ana. The case pivots from missing person to homicide investigation. January 17–March 2023 – Murder charges & indictment: Norfolk County District Attorney Michael Morrissey announces murder charges; Brian is arraigned and later indicted by a grand jury for first‑degree murder along with related charges tied to lying to investigators and improper handling of remains. Backstory – Red flags, alleged threats, and a reported “ransom” distraction: The hosts discuss disturbing prior allegations (including an older report to police about threats) and prosecutors’ claim that a phony ransom note surfaced during the early days of the investigation. February 2024 – The art-fraud conviction: The episode also digs into Brian Walshe’s separate federal case involving fake Andy Warhol paintings and related artwork fraud — a backdrop that shapes how the public views his credibility and motive. November–December 2025 – The Dedham murder trial, the “no-body” verdict, and sentencing: After delays and pretrial developments,...

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Debate the News: True Crime, hosted by Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco, brings listeners in-depth coverage of current and past true crime cases in an innovative, debate-style format. Each episode brings together a dynamic panel of sharp-witted community members to debate and dissect cases as they unfold – all in a bold, fact-driven style that pulls no punches. The show is recorded live on the Chatter Social app at 7PM (Eastern Time) every Thursday night. Listeners can join in on the conversation and listen to the live recording by downloading the Chatter Social app from the Apple App Store or Google Play store. Shows recorded on Thursday nights are released as a podcast episode on all platforms the following Thursday.

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