HIV: The Morning After

Dan Hall

An oral history and public-education audio archive documenting the lived experience of people living with HIV in the UK. The series captures testimony at a moment when institutional memory, peer support, and long-term survivor narratives are being eroded, despite medical progress. Led by Emmy award-winning documentary producer Dan Hall, the project is building a long-form archive of 50+ recorded testimonies for public, community, and educational use.

  1. 6D AGO

    Alexander Cheves: Sex, Sovereignty, Survival

    SummaryAlexander Cheves grew up on a 500-acre farm in rural Georgia, raised by evangelical missionary parents who blocked gay websites and warned him that choosing this "lifestyle" meant choosing death. At sixteen, he decided to come out anyway, convinced he was trading a long life for a brief, honest one. He tested positive for HIV at twenty, in 2013, during his final year of college. What followed wasn't the manageable adjustment the medical timeline might suggest. In the six months after diagnosis, Alexander fell into a depression so severe he nearly didn't survive it. He went through a period of manic sex without disclosure, behaviour he's since written about with unflinching honesty in his memoir My Love Is a Beast. He later learned from infectious disease specialists that this response is statistically common, though rarely discussed. This conversation covers Alexander's decade as a sex worker, his move from Atlanta to New York to Berlin, his relationship with drugs and nightlife, and his views on HIV criminalisation and personal responsibility. He talks about friends who didn't make it, including one who died after "bug chasing" and never sought treatment. And he reflects on turning thirty, an age his father once predicted he wouldn't reach, and discovering that life only got better from there. Timestamped Takeaways00:02:25 - Growing up isolated. Alexander describes the 500-acre farm, the Christian parental blockers, and arriving at college in 2010 believing gay life still looked like 1985. 00:05:18 - Choosing death over the closet. At sixteen, Alexander made a conscious decision that a brief, honest life was preferable to survival in hiding. He wrote a 13-page poem debating it with himself. 00:09:37 - The closet is unendurable. Alexander reflects on why so many queer men choose perceived shorter lives over staying hidden. The daily anxiety of concealment, he argues, is a form of suffering that cannot be sustained. 00:12:20 - College and consequences. With no sex education from his parents, Alexander went wild. He was in and out of the student health clinic constantly. In hindsight, testing positive at twenty was no surprise. 00:14:43 - The drive to the clinic. When the clinic refused to give results over the phone, Alexander knew. The six months that followed were the hardest of his life to survive. 00:16:05 - 2013 realities. Pre-PrEP, pre-U=U. Doctors worried about medication adherence in young patients. Alexander was told disclosure was entirely his responsibility. 00:18:04 - No one would touch him. Overnight, his sex life ended. The only partners willing to engage were older men who understood HIV. These "gay daddies" saved his life. 00:19:52 - The manic period. Alexander describes anonymous, strategic sex without disclosure in the months before medication. He later learned this response is clinically documented, though he'd thought himself uniquely transgressive. 00:24:22 - Sex work and healing. Alexander spent nearly a decade as an escort, learning that many clients simply wanted someone to talk to. The loneliest were often older men who'd lost everyone in the plague years. 00:29:02 - Drugs, loneliness, and gay culture. Higher rates of substance abuse among gay men, Alexander suggests, stem from isolation, societal trauma, and a culture built in spaces of consumption. 00:30:17 - Harm reduction, not abstinence. Therapists at Gay Men's Health Crisis in New York focussed on moderation. Combined with daily meditation started after diagnosis, Alexander found a relationship with drugs that works for him. 00:36:09 - The friend...

    1h 16m
  2. FEB 6

    Chris Smith: Diagnosis, Discovery, Defiance

    SummaryIn 1987, Chris Smith received an HIV diagnosis and was told he might have months to live. His doctor's advice? Learn to live with uncertainty. Thirty-eight years later, he's the Chancellor of Cambridge University. This episode traces Chris's journey through the darkest years of the epidemic whilst serving in the heart of British politics. He recounts the moment he came out as gay at a Rugby rally in 1984, his hands shaking, only to receive a standing ovation twenty seconds into his speech. He describes navigating Section 28 debates whilst secretly managing Kaposi's sarcoma and the brutal side effects of alpha interferon. And he shares the unlikely deal he struck with the Sunday Times that eventually led to a phone call from Nelson Mandela. Chris reflects on what it meant to carry a secret whilst holding public office, the transformation that combination therapy brought, and the friend he lost in the late 80s whose memory still stays with him. His closing message is characteristically direct: be yourself, be unafraid, and tell your story in your own way. Timestamped Takeaways00:02:23 - Coming out at Rugby, 1984. Chris describes the moment he decided, mid-rally, to publicly declare his sexuality. A thousand people stood and applauded before he'd finished his first sentence. 00:07:32 - Public attitudes shifted faster than politics. Chris observes that ordinary people coming out in their families, workplaces, and neighbourhoods drove change more than any politician or celebrity. 00:10:13 - The terror of early awareness. News of the virus filtered through from America. Government tombstone adverts amplified fear rather than understanding. 00:12:41 - "Learn to live with uncertainty." Chris's doctor delivered this advice in the days before AZT. It became a guiding principle for the next four decades. 00:15:14 - Section 28 and finding love. Amid vile parliamentary speeches, Chris spotted an attractive young man across a committee room. They ended up living together for 24 years. 00:17:56 - Kaposi's sarcoma arrives. The visible marker of AIDS in films like Philadelphia appeared on Chris's body, though thankfully not where the public could see. 00:19:07 - Alpha interferon hell. For a year, Chris oscillated between feeling like he had severe flu and feeling normal, all whilst maintaining a demanding public role. 00:22:01 - Combination therapy changes everything. Suddenly there was hope. Side effects disappeared. Viral loads became undetectable. 00:25:19 - The Sunday Times deal. A journalist discovered Chris's status. Rather than fight it, Chris negotiated: hold the story, and when he was ready, the paper would have the exclusive. 00:28:55 - Mandela calls. Two years after the deal, inspired by Mandela's speech at his son's funeral, Chris went public. The next morning, a note on his desk read: "Please ring Mr. Mandela." 00:35:07 - Living with uncertainty today. Combination therapy has transformed the nature of uncertainty, but no one yet knows what 38 years of living with HIV means for the decades ahead. 00:36:16 - Remembering a friend. Chris recalls visiting a friend in his final weeks, a man once full of the joys of existence, now shrivelled and gaunt. The shock of seeing him was greater than losing him. 00:37:36 - The postcard to the world. "Be yourself. Be unafraid, and tell your story in your own way." Guest BioLord Chris Smith was elected MP for Islington South and Finsbury in 1983. He became Britain's first MP to voluntarily come out as gay in 1984, the world's first...

    41 min
  3. 11/21/2025

    Marc Thompson: Resistance, Roots, Resilience

    Marc Thompson was diagnosed with HIV at just 17 in 1986, during the epidemic's most frightening early days when information wasn't reaching young black gay men in South London's vibrant but segregated queer scene. His journey from isolated teenager to influential activist illustrates the power of transforming personal experience into systemic change. Feeling like the only young black gay man in HIV services, Marc recognised the vital importance of representation and community building, establishing the first support group for positive black gay men at the London Lighthouse. His activism spans decades, from safer sex workshops in the 1990s through co-founding PrEPster in 2014 to fight for HIV prevention access, and creating Blackout UK to celebrate black queer lives. Now serving as Lead Commissioner of the London HIV Prevention Programme, Marc has architected change that ensures black queer men are part of funding conversations and policy decisions. His story demonstrates how one person's determination to build the community they desperately needed can reshape an entire field, whilst his commitment to preserving stories through podcasts and archives ensures future generations understand their history and heritage. Timestamped Takeaways03:02 - Teenage life in 1986: "I was out on the scene and discovering myself... just being a curious, fun, engaged teenager." 04:37 - Segregated gay scene: "For many black queer people... those places were not particularly welcoming... because of racist door policies." 06:33 - Societal context: "The UK was deeply racist. The National Front was still marching on the streets." 07:32 - Community assumptions: "One of the rules we had in my community was, well, this is a white man's thing." 08:37 - Information access: "There was no route for that information to get directly to a young man like me." 09:53 - The diagnosis: "I'm told that they have come back positive. And the world stopped." 11:27 - Processing the news: "The only two things that kept reverberating... how am I going to tell my grandfather... I would never have children." 12:36 - Isolation of diagnosis: "I didn't know anyone who had HIV who looked like me." 13:01 - Multiple intersections: "I knew that all of this intersected with my blackness and my queerness." 14:16 - Mother's support: "I was able to tell my mum... she didn't throw me out of the house." 15:50 - Community gossip: "I became known in the small black gay community as Marc with the virus." 17:41 - First activism: "If I can teach these men... maybe they'll be less fearful... maybe there won't be so shit to people like me." 22:26 - First support group: "I'd set up the first black gay men's group... There were only four of us... probably one of the most important days of my life." 25:56 - PrEPster origins: "We set up PrEPster as a website... with the sole intention of providing education to our communities." 27:32 - Golden age of prevention: "The emergence of organisations like Gay Men Fighting AIDS... culturally appropriate, culturally specific information." 33:38 - Community resistance: "Why can't these young gay men just use condoms like we did? Aren't they f*****g on the graves of the people that died?" 37:09 - Blackout UK mission: "We wanted to celebrate black queer lives... always coming from a place of love, joy and celebration." 41:06 - HIV equality: "We are all in some ways HIV equal, whether we're negative, positive or untested." 43:01 - Personal responsibility: "I take my medication to keep me alive. The fact

    1 hr
  4. 11/14/2025

    Gus Cairns: Legacy, Loss, Liberation

    Gus Cairns was diagnosed with HIV in 1985 at age 29, having met the love of his life, Paul, who was already positive. An Oxford graduate drifting through London's gay scene, Gus wanted to share Paul's status, believing it meant they could have unprotected sex without consequences. What followed was a devastating education in AIDS as Paul slowly died over four and a half years, succumbing in January 1990 after insisting on showing Princess Diana his Kaposi's sarcoma lesions to reveal "what it was like." Gus's own journey through near-death experiences, alternative therapies, and the transformative arrival of combination therapy in the mid-1990s illustrates the psychological complexity of surviving when so many friends died. His story captures the "Lazarus effect" - the unexpected challenge of learning to live again after preparing for death - whilst highlighting how trauma can be transformed into purpose. Now 69 and a respected HIV educator, Gus reflects on 40 years of living with HIV with the wisdom of someone who has witnessed history and emerged determined to teach its lessons, particularly that "you can't moralise your way out of an epidemic." Timestamped Takeaways03:01 - Meeting Paul: "The reaction to Paul was summed up... 'why are you going out with that maniac?'" 06:51 - Sexual history: "If you're shagging around on the gay scene in the early 80s... I was quite good looking and I was horny." 08:40 - Seroconversion symptoms: "A clutch of very severe mouth ulcers... a classic, clear seroconversion symptom of HIV." 09:15 - Wanting to be positive: "I was so besotted by him that I actually wanted to be positive, too." 10:04 - Testing refusal: "They wouldn't give me an HIV test because the Ethics committee had decided it was essentially a death sentence." 12:46 - Princess Diana visit: "He said, I want them to see what it was like." 17:00 - Paul's final days: "He said, I want to go to the loo... That was his last moment of consciousness." 19:42 - Death certificate insistence: "Absolutely insisting that AIDS was recorded on his death certificate." 21:04 - AZT trial experience: "I lasted six weeks and then I said, I'm not taking this anymore." 23:08 - Survival mentality: "I was looking for a kind of survivor's mentality... split myself into two systems of belief." 24:12 - 1995 breakthrough: "Reading the report... seeing the virus load disappear in his subjects." 25:13 - Scientific turning point: "Right, I want these drugs." 26:37 - Survivor's depression: "I didn't realise I was terribly depressed... I didn't know how to cope with surviving." 28:37 - Wartime mentality: "People were dying left, right and centre all around you." 29:47 - Sexual behaviour change: "I'd taken an unconscious decision that I did not want to... inject HIV into somebody else." 32:26 - Current global concerns: "Trump cutting... all the assistance to Africa." 35:04 - War and inhibition: "In wartime people lose their inhibitions." 37:38 - Key lesson: "One of those lessons is that you can't moralise your way out of an epidemic." 41:03 - Remembering Paul: "He taught me the power of defiance and the power of absolutely standing up for yourself." 42:58 - Final wisdom: "Survival is the best revenge... don't let the anger and the stress get to you." Links:Other work from Producer Dan Hall.li...

    45 min
  5. 11/07/2025

    Peter Willis: Medicine, Malcolm, Mortality

    Dr Peter Willis brings a unique dual perspective to HIV - as both physician and patient during the epidemic's most challenging years. Working as a GP in the early days when HIV meant certain death, Peter witnessed the professional helplessness of medicine whilst quietly assuming his own positive status after his 16-year partner Malcolm showed clear signs of AIDS. Malcolm refused testing and died in 1994, leaving Peter to navigate his own eventual diagnosis in 1995, just as combination therapy emerged to transform his prognosis from months to decades. Now 83, Peter has been married to his Japanese partner for nearly 30 years and reflects on the extraordinary journey from expecting death before retirement to discovering pottery in his ninth decade. His story captures the medical profession's evolution from powerlessness to hope, the personal cost of stigma in healthcare settings, and the grace found in both losing love and finding it again. Peter's measured wisdom about ageing with HIV, drawn from both clinical knowledge and lived experience, offers profound insights into resilience, acceptance, and the unexpected gifts of longevity. Timestamped Takeaways02:52 - Early medical stigma: "Sometimes the envelopes... had 'HIV positive' written in red on the outside of the packet." 03:59 - Medical helplessness: "Initially, you really couldn't do anything." 04:48 - Malcolm's AIDS: "It was quite clear that he had AIDS. He didn't want to be tested." 05:49 - Professional compartmentalisation: "I treated patients as patients... separate from me." 06:26 - Assumed prognosis: "I always assumed that I wouldn't have very long to live, five years at the most." 06:53 - Early retirement: "Such a relief... I retired on the basis that I had less than six months to live." 08:05 - Limited gay scene engagement: "I was never much good at dancing... very self-conscious." 09:37 - Police warning: "If I were you, I'd get out of here. I'm a policeman." 10:27 - Professional fears: "I just couldn't face the prospect of being in the local newspaper as a GP." 11:16 - Diagnosis journey: "A friend... said, I'm coming to see you... I'm taking you to hospital." 12:57 - Receiving the news: "Steve said, I'm sorry, I have bad news for you." 13:45 - Survival factors: "I seem to be... immunologically tough... combination therapy came along in the nick of time." 14:34 - Social life impact: "My social life... was Golders Green Crematorium." 15:38 - Emotional detachment: "I didn't seem to get too stressed by what I... wonder, is it all suppressed?" 16:05 - Treatment transformation: "It's wonderful... it really changes everything." 16:41 - Current health: "HIV causes me no problems whatever." 17:10 - Disbelief at longevity: "I wouldn't have believed it... I can put it aside as being a kind thought." 19:29 - NHS appreciation: "Relies very heavily on people believing very much in what they're doing." 20:08 - U=U significance: "Wonderful idea that people no longer need to be fearful of having a relationship." 21:03 - Remembering Malcolm: "I was in love with him... all the time for 16 years." 23:35 - Final goodbye: "I said quietly in his ear, it's all right, love. You can go. I'll be all right without you." 25:06 - Funeral tribute: "I've never heard anything so wonderful about love." 25:26 - Final wisdom: "Enjoy life, be happy. Don't worry about challenges you can't achieve." Links: a...

    28 min
  6. 10/31/2025

    Matthew Hodson: Science, Sovereignty, Survival

    Matthew Hodson represents one of Britain's most influential voices in HIV and LGBTQ+ activism, having lived openly and "shamelessly" with HIV for nearly three decades. His journey began in the 1980s when coming out coincided with the emergence of AIDS, leading him to frontline activism against Section 28 and homophobic legislation. After avoiding testing for years due to fear and the lack of effective treatment, Matthew received his HIV diagnosis in 1997, just as combination therapy was revolutionising care. His transformation from someone carrying HIV as a shameful secret to becoming a leading advocate illustrates the power of visibility and self-acceptance. As Chief Executive of Gay Men Fighting AIDS, Matthew championed honest conversations about viral load and treatment as prevention, challenging the "condoms only" orthodoxy years before U=U became accepted science. His landmark achievement as the first openly HIV-positive chair of a major AIDS conference in 2021 represents both personal triumph and overdue recognition that "nothing about us without us" should include leadership roles. Matthew's story demonstrates how activism can transform not just society, but the activist themselves. Timestamped Takeaways03:12 - Early sexual awakening: "I took myself off to Heaven... and rid myself of my gay virginity." 04:13 - First AIDS documentary: "I sat down there... watch this documentary called The Killer in the Village... this is so far confined to gay men, particularly in America." 04:48 - Mother's reaction to coming out: "The first thing she said to me was, well, I expect you'll get AIDS and die then." 06:13 - Section 28 catalyst: "Section 28... I felt like I was forced out of the closet by Section 28." 07:43 - Peak homophobia: "The peak of homophobia was 1986, 1987... 75% of people believing that homosexuality was always or almost always wrong." 09:07 - Direct action: "We went down Fleet Street with pink paint and daubed pink triangles everywhere." 10:53 - Manchester march significance: "That was the largest ever gay rights protest gathering anywhere in the world." 12:13 - Avoiding testing: "I thought if someone told me that I was HIV positive now, I think I would just kill myself." 15:45 - 1996 Vancouver conference: "Changed everything... we can treat HIV." 16:43 - Testing experience: "You meet the profile of someone who will test positive." 17:35 - Diagnosis moment: "You've got about 20 years to live... those words... echoed in my head for days and days." 18:53 - Limited time perspective: "You've got a limited period to get things done. Now, what do you want to do with these precious years?" 21:07 - HIV stigma analysis: "If HIV most affected white, cis, straight men... there never would have been any HIV stigma." 23:02 - Sex-positive messaging: "Gay sex. Good. We like it. We enjoy it." 25:44 - Viral load messaging: "That use a condom every time message hadn't worked." 29:19 - Living shamelessly: "All of my fear and shame, my self stigmatising, has been washed away." 32:28 - Going public: "I press send... it was like jumping off a high board... let's just make sure I enter the water with grace." 34:39 - Early disclosure strategy: "I will try and find a way to get my HIV status into that conversation really early on." 36:51 - U=U amazement: "The risk is zero... how wonderfully astonishing is that?" 38:10 - Reclaiming slurs: "Every time you take something that is used against you and you make it into your own armour, it loses its power to hurt...

    49 min
  7. 10/24/2025

    Anthony Bird: Dancing, Diagnosis, Defiance

    Anthony Bird's HIV journey began dramatically in 1995 when he went from seroconversion to hospitalisation with PCP in just 4-5 months, an unusually rapid progression that fascinated medical consultants. Working as a graphic designer in London and deeply embedded in the vibrant gay club scene centred around Brixton's legendary Fridge nightclub, Tony's diagnosis came at 28 during the height of the pre-combination therapy era. His story captures the terror of thinking he wouldn't live to see 30, watching 30,000 balloons released at Pride representing AIDS deaths whilst believing one would represent him the following year. Yet Tony's experience stands apart from many others in its lack of shame or secrecy - his hospitalisation made his status obvious to friends, and he found himself surrounded by HIV-positive activists who provided community rather than isolation. From near-death to the miraculous transformation brought by combination therapy, Tony's journey continues to the present day where he's found unexpected joy in ballroom dancing, describing himself as happier than at any point in his life whilst living with HIV as mere background noise. Timestamped Takeaways03:11 - Rapid onset: "I had what was a pretty classic seroconversion... two weeks off work because what felt like a really bad flu." 04:34 - Unable to work: "My last day at work... I didn't have the strength to put my boots on and walk downstairs." 05:17 - Dramatic weight loss: "By the time I was admitted to hospital, I'd gone down to seven and a half stone." 06:29 - Hospital relief: "I think I was just mainly feeling relief that finally someone was taking this seriously." 06:48 - Understanding the implications: "We think you've got PCP. Are you aware of the implications of that?... I knew exactly what the implications were." 09:37 - No confidence in treatment: "I had no confidence in the medication that was available... you develop resistance pretty quickly." 09:37 - Age and mortality: "I can remember... I said, I'm not going to live until I'm 30." 11:24 - The Fridge club scene: "I was absolutely obsessed with going to the Fridge listening to house music until six in the morning." 13:27 - Public diagnosis: "Because of the nature of my diagnosis... All my friends knew I was HIV positive." 14:47 - Family shame: "That was the sense of shame I felt... I'd let my parents down." 18:18 - Extreme blood results: "My viral load was way up in the 2 million, 3 million mark, my CD4 count was less than ten." 19:28 - Pride balloon release: "Each balloon represented someone who died of AIDS... I can remember thinking, next year one of those balloons is going to be me." 21:08 - Lasting damage: "I got shingles twice... the damage it did to my left eye means that I'm still blind in my left eye." 22:40 - Hearing about combination therapy: "People were just astounded by just how successful the trial had been." 24:08 - Medical breakthrough: "My consultant literally skipping down the corridor with the results. She was so pleased." 26:06 - Ongoing side effects: "Those early HIV drugs... some of the side effects are still pretty grim sometimes." 28:50 - Dating and disclosure: "I could put my HIV status up on my profile... other HIV positive men would see that and contact me." 36:35 - Ballroom dancing discovery: "If there is one regret I have, it's that I didn't go to a dance class when I was in my 20s." 38:22 - Finding community: "It's the most home I felt in a community in my life." 39:09 - Current...

    43 min

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An oral history and public-education audio archive documenting the lived experience of people living with HIV in the UK. The series captures testimony at a moment when institutional memory, peer support, and long-term survivor narratives are being eroded, despite medical progress. Led by Emmy award-winning documentary producer Dan Hall, the project is building a long-form archive of 50+ recorded testimonies for public, community, and educational use.