Fresh Out and Figuring it Out

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Still figuring out life? Good — you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be. I’m Mary Choi Kelly, PhD — mom, leadership coach, and C suite veteran with 30+ years of helping leaders thrive. On this podcast, Fresh Out & Figuring It Out, we give young adults the mic to share their stories so everyone listening can understand who they truly are and what’s on their minds. We’re also showing the real side of young men — one that defies stereotypes — so that we can rewrite the story together and help every young adult (both men and women) grow into confident, compassionate leaders who know their worth

Episodes

  1. 6D AGO

    Memoir-Worthy vs. Scroll-Worthy: Building a Life You'd Actually Want to Live

    Episode 9: Evan Gold: Winning, Pressure, and Becoming Your Own Person In this episode, I sit down with Evan Gold—Cal Berkeley men’s varsity rower and junior—to unpackwhat it’s like growing up inside a high-achievement bubble, learning to define success for yourself, and building a “real” network in a world that tells you to rack up LinkedIn connections. Evan shares how pressure in Palo Alto shaped his mindset, why choosing Cal was a step toward becoming his own person, and how mentorship + community (especially through sports) can be a protective force for young adults. The episode also tackles screen-time culture, why many young people don’t actually like being on their phones, and what supporting young men can look like when we stop reducing them to metrics. Timestamps (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:08) Would You Rather (00:04:00) Evan Gold (00:04:38) The "Palo Alto Pressure" – Parental pressure, bubble cultures, and youth mental health (00:12:15) The Mentorship Gap for Young Men (00:15:15) Choosing Cal over Stanford (00:23:50) Choosing a college major (00:26:13) Learning How to Network – Evan shares his big take aways from a “failed” networking call with Mary (00:41:19) Looking forward – How Evan has been talking to people in pursuit of future endeavors (00:47:48) Books (Barbarian Days), Leading a memoir worth life, Social Media (00:52:37) Evan and Conor’s Social Media Challenge (00:54:43) Dispelling the "Screenager" Stereotype (00:57:08) Redefining Masculinity (00:59:30) What does supporting young men look like? Key Takeaways Pressure doesn’t always look like “bad parenting.” Even “hands-off” support can still carryinvisible expectations—and young adults often feel responsible for meetingthem.Your first network is closer than you think. Coaches, parents’ friends, alumni databases,and “friends of friends” beat cold applications when you’re early in yourjourney.Networking is human, not transactional. People usually want to help—and youdon’t need a “trade” to earn a conversation. The value is the relationship.Career paths aren’t linear after school. The structure you’re used to disappearsafter college; the skill becomes making the next best decision, not the“perfect forever” one.Gen Z doesn’t necessarily love screens. Many feel trapped by them and want more realconnection—but need support to build it.A healthier model of masculinity = mentorship + connection. Strength isn’t “being better than someone,” it’s being grounded enough to help others rise too.Stop quantifying young men. Height, money, status—those metrics flatten a whole person. The realstory is who they are and how they grow. Who This Episode is For Young adults who feel stuck in comparison, pressure, or “the path you’resupposed to take”Student-athletes (and high performers) trying to figure out identitybeyond achievementAnyone overwhelmed by career options and tired of “apply online andpray” adviceParents, coaches, and mentors who want to support young men in a waythat actually helpsListeners who want a more honest conversation about masculinity,connection, and confidence—without stereotypesI would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that wecan figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠

    1h 3m

  2. JAN 28

    From 30 Moves to Version 3.0: Reinventing Work, Home, and Self with Stan Prehu

    Episode 8: Rethinking Success and Meaning in Your 20s In this full-circle conversation, I sit down with Stan Prehu—a Franco-Croatian third-culture kid I first met as a baby in France—who’s moved nearly 30 times and learned to build confidence and community wherever he lands. Stan walks us through the honest version of early adulthood: chasing a “glossy” consulting role in the UK, getting laid off during COVID, and using that forced pause as a reset to choose growth over grind. He relocates to Poland, plays rugby with coal miners, throws himself into humanitarian work when the war in Ukraine begins, and rebuilds a life from the inside out—eventually finding his lane in AI at Amazon. We talk about how five-year plans can box you in, and the mindset that turns a brand-new city into home: show up where your interests live, act like a local, put your phone down, and keep returning until the room becomes yours. Stan gets real about comparison, self-doubt, and the moment he stopped living for external validation. We also touch on relationships: why checklists don’t make you “ready,” but self-respect does, and how finding the right partner quiets the noisy inner critic. This is a story about choosing yourself without losing your humility, measuring compensation in learning, mobility, and alignment (not just salary), and paying it forward to thepeople who lifted you. If you’re stuck in a job that looks good but feels wrong, navigating a new city, or figuring out who you want to be in your 20s, this episode gives you a practical, humane playbook—rooted in courage, community, and heart. Key Takeaways Choose confidence over do-overs. Your path isn’t linear—and that’s a feature.A forced pause can be a gift. Build a life, not just a résumé. Hardship happens, and you owe yourself the happiness you deserve.Humility changes the story. Relationships start with you. Community is legacy. Who This Is For Young adults navigating early-career choices, uncertainty, or a pivotThird-culture kids/expats learning to belong everywhere (and not lose themselves)Recent grads & job seekers who need practical, human advice after a layoff or “wrong fit” roleYoung men (and those who love them) looking for healthier models of confidence, connection, and supportParents, mentors, and coaches who want language and tools to walk with young adults—without steering for them I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠

    1h 5m

  3. JAN 3

    You’re Not Your Label: Vaughn Vogel on Being More Than One Thing

    Episode 7: Coming Out Isn’t a Moment — It’s a Process What happens after you finally say the words out loud? In this powerful episode of Fresh Out and FiguringIt Out, Vaughn Vogel (University of Miami senior) opens up about his coming out journey — and the parts people don’t always talk about: the pressure to “do it perfectly,” the fear of risking important relationships, and the identity whiplash that can follow when you’re trying to figure out who you are now that you’re free to be yourself. Vaughn shares how a supportive school environment helped him feel safe… but also how rejection right after coming out triggered a spiral around body image, control, and confidence. The turning point? A mom who noticed the cues, pushed resources with love, and helped him rebuild from the inside out. This conversation is honest, emotional, and deeply hopeful — especially for anyone navigating identity, self-worth, or the pressure to have life “figured out.” What You’ll Hear A real, step-by-step look at coming out — including the fear, planning, and reliefWhy “you never stop coming out” (and what that actually means)How rejection can turn into control patterns (and how to interrupt them)The pressure of stereotypes: “Do I have to act a certain way to belong?”The power of mentors, counselors, and one safe person to talk toWhy young men often delay asking for help — and how to change thatCareer clarity for Gen Z: internships, experimentation, and choosing what fits Key Takeaways Coming out isn’t a finish line — it’s the beginning of self-discovery.Your identity is bigger than a label. You can have many sides and still be fully you.Rejection is painful — but it doesn’t get to define your worth.If you’re struggling, your problems “count.” Don’t minimize yourself out of support.Parents: watch the cues. Support isn’t one conversation — it’s consistent presence + resources.For early career Gen Z: you’re not lazy — you’re navigating more options than any generation before you. Who This Episode Is For Anyone questioning identity, sexuality, or how they “should” show up in the worldYoung adults who feel pressure to fit a persona or stereotype to be acceptedPeople healing from rejection, body image spirals, or self-worth dipsParents who want to support their kids without pushing them awayMentors, educators, and leaders who want to better understand young men todaySeniors / grads who feel behind because they don’t have the whole plan yetI would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠

    1h 2m

  4. 12/10/2025

    From Doom Loops to Real Growth: Navigating Your 20s in a New City

    Episode 6: Thriving in San Francisco as an Introvert — Rest, Reflection, and Redefining Success In this episode of Fresh Out and Figuring It Out, Connor Callahan, a 20-something computer engineering grad living in San Francisco, talks about what really happens after college and how he moved past negative thought spirals, learnedto value rest, and found his people in a city obsessed with status, startups, and questions about “what you do”. Connor opens up about moving to a big city, being an introvert in an extrovertedworld, building websites that unexpectedly took off online, and deciding to join his family’s cheese and yogurt business, Bellwether Farms. He shareshonestly about imposter syndrome, “doom loops” of negative thinking, learning to ask for help, building community when you don’t naturally love socializing, and what it actually means to be a man with purpose and values today. It’s a grounded, thoughtful conversation for anyone who thought life would feel “figured out” by now—and is realizing that this in-between stage is where the real growth happens. What You’ll Hear: The story behind his viral writing tool website “Lose theVery” and other creative side projectsWhat it’s really like to move to a new city aftercollege as an introvertHow imposter syndrome shows up in everyday choices—socially, professionally, and personallyThe concept of the “doom loop” and how gratitude andperspective helps break itWhy long walks, solo runs, and technology-free time became essential for his mental healthHow a first serious relationship forced him to grow, make hard decisions, and take agency over his lifePractical ways he’s building community now—run clubs, coffee meetups, tennis, poker nights, and moreKey Takeaways: Life after college is the first time you design your ownstructure. Freedom is amazing—but you have to be intentional about how you spend your time and where you put your energy.Introverted doesn’t mean antisocial. You might prefer depth over crowds, but you still need people—and it’s okay to build community at your own pace.Your mind can trap you in “doom loops.” When your thoughts spiral into “I don’t belong” or “I’m behind,” you start seeing proof everywhere. Gratitude, old letters, and real rest can reset that pattern.Rest is not laziness—it’s growth. Long walks withoutpodcasts, runs without music, and quiet time away from your phone help you actually hear your own thoughts and values.Experiment early and often. Try different jobs, cities, androles. Optimize for learning, experience, and people you can grow from—not just titles and short-term prestige.Decisions are part of adulthood. Not choosing is still achoice. Whether it’s a relationship, a job, or a city, you won’t get guaranteed “right” answers—but you will learn who you are.Who This Episode Is For: New grads trying to figure out life after college,especially in big citiesIntroverts who want community but feel drained by typical “networking” culture Parents & caregivers who want to better understand what their sons are actually navigating right nowEarly-career professionals questioning if the path they’re on is really theirs—or just what they thought they “should” doAnyone in their 20s or 30s who feels behind, stuck incomparison, or caught in their own doom loops and wants a more grounded way forward I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠

    1h 7m

  5. 11/24/2025

    More Than a Quarterback: Micah Bowens on Football, Faith & Figuring Life Out

    Episode 5: From the Field to Life: Micah Bowens' Journey Navigating College Football and The Lessons Learned In this episode of Fresh Out and Figuring It Out, I sit down with former D1 quarterback Micah Bowens to unpack what really happens when the dream you’ve chased your whole life suddenly changes. From being a four-star recruit and state champion at Bishop Gorman to playing at Penn State, Oklahoma, and UNC Charlotte, Micah shares the highs of national TV games and scholarship offers—and the lows of coaching changes, COVID, transfers, and a devastating hamstring injury that forced him to rethink everything. We talk about what it means to be a man, the pressure on young men to “be strong” and never show emotion, and how one phone call to his mom in tears changed how he sees vulnerability, faith, and support. Now 24, working in insurance and navigating job interviews and “adulting,” Micah is honest about not having it all figured out—and why that’s exactly okay. What You’ll Hear How Micah went from right tackle at age 7 to starting quarterback at powerhouse Bishop GormanThe reality of being heavily recruited: scholarships, visits, whiteout games, and emotional decisionsThe behind-the-scenes truth of college football as a business: coaching changes, depth charts, and pressureHow he juggled 40+ credit hours, community college classes, and D1 football to graduate earlyThe hamstring injury that tore his season—and Plan A—away right before fall campHow faith, baptism, and reflection helped him reframe his story and find peace beyond footballWhat he’s learning about networking, interviews, and adultingHis honest advice for young athletes who dream of playing in college or going pro Key Takeaways Everything happens for a reason—even when you can’t see it yet. Micah’s journey through three schools, five coaches, COVID, and injury reshaped his faith and perspective on purpose.College sports are not just a game—they’re a business. Understanding that early can protectyour mental health and help you make smarter decisions.Being “the man” doesn’t mean being emotionless. Bottling everything up works…until it doesn’t. Vulnerability with the right people is strength, not weakness.You can be both present and purposeful. Micah talks about learning to enjoy where his feet are while still making decisions that serve his long-term vision.It’s okay not to have your next chapter fully mapped out. What matters is staying curious, asking for help, and being willing to pivot.Rejection isn’t the end—it’s reps. From football to job interviews, every “no” is practice, data, and preparation for the right “yes.”Who This Episode Is For Young adults who feel like Plan A didn’t work out and aren’t sure what comes nextCurrent or former athletes navigating life after sports, injury, or major transitionsYoung men who’ve been told to “be strong” and never show emotion—but are tired of holding it all inParents, coaches, and mentors who want to better understand what young men are really carryingAnyone who’s still figuring out their path, wondering if they’re behind, and needs the reminder: You’re not late. You’re learning. And you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be. I would love to hear your thoughts andcomments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    1h 15m

  6. 11/09/2025

    Optics vs. Reality: Gen Z, Body Image & Actual Success

    Episode 4: A Day in the Life of Gen Z Entrepreneurship:Grit Over Glamour In this episode, I am joined by 21-year-old entrepreneur and creator Dominic Arvielo for a raw, hopeful conversation about identity, body image, and building something from scratch. Dom traces his path from theater kid to music producer to founder of Zigzy, a social media tech + management company. Along the way, he opens up about his battle with an eating disorder—how performance, social media optics, andobsessiveness fed it, and how asking for help, reframing goals, and channeling that same drive into healthy ambition helped him rebuild. We unpack the unique pressure Gen Z faces online, why entertainment beats “traditional ads” on social, and what early entrepreneurship really looks like (spoiler: less glamour, more grit). Dom shares hard-won lessons on failingfast, starting lean, and choosing to be known for your mind, not your body. The episode doubles as a guide for parents—how to support without smothering, hold boundaries with compassion, and stick with your kid through the hardest parts. What You’ll Hear From stage to startups: Theater roots → music production → founding a seven-person social media company.Inside the disorder: What it felt like at the worst point, why it’s so hidden in young men, and how recovery began.Optics vs. reality: How social platforms reward appearance—and how to opt out mentally.College or not?: The value (and limits) of degrees, self-teaching, and learning how to think.Gen Z at work: Competence, value creation, and why you can’t ChatGPT your way into a career.Parent playbook: Stay, listen, don’t take the heat personally, and never give up. Takeaways Ask for help early. Suffering in silence is heavier than sharing the load.Be known for your mind. Shift focus from body/optics to ideas, skills, and contribution.Start small, start now. “Anything you can do with $1,000, you can do with $10—it’s just harder.” Test, learn, iterate.Create for why people scroll. Entertain, inspire, or educate—then add a clear CTA.Failure is data. Fail fast, analyze, pivot. Pride down, learning up.Self-teach as a superpower. Curiosity + consistency beats credentials alone.Support young men by stretching them. Space to try, fall, and get back up—plus real check-ins about mental health. Who It’s For Young adults navigating identity, body image, and big career choices.Early-stage founders/creators who want the unfiltered version of building a business.Parents & mentors looking for practical, compassionate ways to support without over-controlling.Leaders & HR pros curious about how Gen Z really thinks about work, value, and social media. I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠

    1h 11m

  7. 10/22/2025

    Resilience in Action: How Grit and Discipline Turn Setbacks

    Episode 3: A Day in the Life of a Division 1 Rower: A Story About Humility, Coachability, and Showing Up In this episode, I sit down with a very special guest—my son, Conor. From family stories to Division I rowing, this conversation is a journey through resilience, risk-taking, and the power of community. We start with family stories: the giant baby who wore men’s shoe sizes by age five, the Southern-boy-meets-Irish-name combo, and my own first-time-mom worries. Then, Conor takes us into the world of sports—the heartbreak of his last high school basketball game, the brotherhood of team bonds, and the surprising ways men build connection through shared struggle. Conor opens up about finding rowing asa “second-chance sport,” and the whirlwind that took him from GWU to following his dream of rowing for a Division 1 program. What follows is raw and real: the high of being recruited, to setbacks, and the spiral of doubt. But this isn’t just a story of loss—it’s about the comeback. Conor shares how discipline, not motivation, got him out of bed to keep training when everything felt over. He found a newcommunity, rebuilt his confidence, and turned consistency into growth. We close with big reflections: what itmeans to be a man today, how young adults can push back on stereotypes, and the importance of congratulating and supporting one another—especially for young men who don’t always hear that message. This episode is a mix of laughter, honesty, and hard truths about resilience, risk, and finding your place. If you’re a parent, an athlete, or a young adult trying to figure out who you are—you’ll find yourself in this story. What You’ll Hear: What failure really teaches you when you keep showing up anywayHow to build confidence by doing hard things, not waiting for the perfect momentWhy feedback is a gift, even when it stingsThe mental toughness it takes to be a collegiate athleteThe ultimate team lesson: progress only happens when everyone rows in sync Takeaways: Resilience is a choice: You don’t control the outcome—you control the next rep, the next practice, the next email.Consistency beats motivation: Start first; motivation follows momentum.Coachability = trust: Take feedback on the chin, make the change, prove you’re moldable.Seek hard rooms: You won’t grow if you’re the best in the boat; surround yourself with people who push you.Team > talent: Synchronization, shared language, and clear race plans create winning crews.Time is a skill: Prioritize, protect sleep, and stack small routines that travel with you.Redefine masculinity: Check in on your guys, have real conversations, celebrate each other’s wins.Mentorship multiplies: Be the person you wish you had—one text a month can change aseason. Who This is For: Parents & mentors supporting young adults through high-stakes transitions.Coaches & leaders who value feedback cultures and want teams aligned on one message.Any young adult who’s been humbled, is rebuilding, or just needs proof that discipline works.Leaders & HR pros curious about how Gen Z really thinks about work and life. I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠

    1h 2m

  8. 10/01/2025

    Are We Leaving Our Boys Behind? Rethinking masculinity, mental health, and mentorship with Dr. Carli Snyder

    Episode 2: Why I am so passionate about building a community that lifts both men and women up In this conversation, I sit down with my dear friend Dr. Carli Snyder—a board-certified clinical psychologist licensed in CA and NV with 25 years in practice—whose philosophy is simple and powerful: health is wealth. We explore what she’s learned working with young adults through a holistic mind-body lens, why connection is mental health’s best friend, and how small actions create real momentum. We dig into the wins and worries for this generation: girls are soaring academically yet reporting record anxiety; boys are too often lonely, under-mentored, and slower to seek help. We talk about how labels like “toxic masculinity” can shut down useful dialogue, and why reframing masculinity as a set of human behaviors—not a gender identity—opens the door to support both our sons and our daughters. You’ll hearwhy community (teams, faith groups, recovery circles) gives boys a language for emotion, and how mentors—especially positive male role models—change trajectories. Threaded throughout is a simple mindset shift: it’s not either/or; it’s and. We can champion girls and lift up boys. Abundance over scarcity. Empathy over polarization. What You’ll Hear Carli's holistic approach (sleep, food, movement, mindfulness) and why it's finally mainstream.The loneliness trend in young men, how it shows up, and what parents often miss.Why girls and boys are struggling with the same core needs - belonging, purpose, real friendships.Language matters: moving from "but" to "and" to change the conversation. Takeaways & Tiny Actions Action absorbs anxiety: leave the house, take a walk, talk to a human.Build connection on purpose: join a team, club, faith group.Find (or be) a mentor; normalize asking for help.Feel your feelings - fully. They're data points about what matters to you.Practice the "and" - support women and men so all young adults thrive. Who It’s For Parents, educators, leaders, coaches, and young adults who believe we can raise a generation of confident, compassionate leaders—together. For more information about Dr. Carli Snyder, you can contact her through her website: www.drcarlisnyder.com I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠

    53 min

  9. 09/01/2025

    My Story & The WHY Behind This Podcast

    Episode 1: Why I Finally Hit Record 🎙️ After years of excuses (“too busy, not the right time, maybe next year…”), I realized the truth: fear was holding me back. Fear of being vulnerable, imperfect, judged. And yet—here I am. Ready or not. In this episode, I share the real story behind starting Fresh Out & Figuring It Out—from growing up as a 1.5 generation Korean American straddling two cultures, to chasing achievement as a way to earn love, to finally realizing that belonging and worth can’t come from checking boxes. This podcast is my love letter to young adults—my sons, and the incredible Gen Z and millennials who inspire me every single day. You’ll hear why I believe your voices matter, why it’s time to rewrite harmful stereotypes (especially about young men), and why we need a community that lifts everyone up. This isn’t about being perfect. It’s about being real. And if I’m asking you to show up courageously, I have to go first. So let’s do this—together. 💛 I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/ https://www.mckleadership.com/ https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/

    29 min
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Still figuring out life? Good — you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be. I’m Mary Choi Kelly, PhD — mom, leadership coach, and C suite veteran with 30+ years of helping leaders thrive. On this podcast, Fresh Out & Figuring It Out, we give young adults the mic to share their stories so everyone listening can understand who they truly are and what’s on their minds. We’re also showing the real side of young men — one that defies stereotypes — so that we can rewrite the story together and help every young adult (both men and women) grow into confident, compassionate leaders who know their worth

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