The Bottleneck Podcast

Bottleneck Podcast
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Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, and Elfried Samba, CEO and Co-Founder of Butterfly Effect and former Global Head of Social at Gymshark, explore the hidden blocks that slow teams down, from flawed strategies to missed cultural signals and outdated thinking.   Each episode breaks down a real challenge through the lens of behavioural science, digital strategy, and lived experience. Through conversations with industry pioneers and creative thinkers, they unpack why teams fail and reveal secrets for driving progress.   Joined by guests who’ve built, rebuilt, or reimagined entire industries, Rory and Elfried challenge assumptions, unpack failure, and explore what moves the needle.   Powered by Sassy+ www.sassyplus.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. Jul 19

    Joe Martin with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba, recorded live at MAD//Fest

    Joe Martin founded Tickle, a platform that lets people save an ad into their phone wallet instead of buying right now. Live at MAD//Fest, he joins Rory and Elfried to ask a blunt question: why do so many companies chase the same metrics as their competitors, and end up looking exactly like them? They trace how optimising for what's easy to measure can work against what actually makes a business succeed, from a CPG brand that got an outstanding result and refused to repeat it, to Soviet factories that paid workers by the weight of the chandeliers they built, until the ceilings gave way. "Good numbers" and "a good business" have quietly become two different things. This episode is about telling them apart. Timestamps 00:22 – Bottleneck's second-ever live show 01:40 – What Tickle actually does 02:21 – Why most ads arrive at exactly the wrong moment 05:12 – A brand gets a great result and says no thanks 08:03 – The AR treasure hunt that led to Tickle 15:17 – Why clients are bonused on the wrong metrics 17:28 – "We're in the trust business, not the ads business" 20:29 – Why finance can't measure a relationship 21:12 – The AO teddy bear nobody can put on a spreadsheet 26:34 – Heathrow's pods and the tyranny of the wrong metric 29:40 – The Soviet chandelier problem 32:00 – Closing out MAD//Fest Follow Rory Instagram: @rorysutherland_clips TikTok: @Rorysutherlandclips X: @rorysutherland LinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/ Follow Elfried Instagram: @elfriedsamba LinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/ https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/ Follow Joe Martin LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/itsjoemartin https://jointickle.com/ A Sassy+ original podcast series

    Joe Martin with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba, recorded live at MAD//Fest

  2. Jul 16

    Faris Aranki with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on IQ, EQ, FQ and why smart teams still fail

    Faris Aranki has spent 20 years studying why some strategies succeed and others quietly fail, working with some of the smartest, best-funded teams in the world.In this episode, he joins Rory and Elfried to explain trust, relationships, judgement and restraint. None of these show up on a spreadsheet, but are critical in the best performing teams.The conversation moves through Faris's own framework for measuring progress, and into the wider question of why organisations are so good at counting the wrong things. It's a look at what actually drives success, and why it so often goes unmeasured.Timestamps00:00 – Why smart teams still fail02:23 – The IQ, EQ, FQ framework explained04:28 – Steve Jobs and the 17 projects17:31 – War-gaming a pandemic: "can I cheat?"28:00 – The billionaire who almost bought Arsenal31:14 – What luxury really means32:13 – The watch collaboration that caused a riot37:14 – Influencers, trust and the "one-night-stand" collab41:33 – The columns missing from every spreadsheet1:01:20 – Who will be the Steve Jobs of AI?1:21:11 – The dishonesty built into procurementFollow RoryInstagram: @rorysutherland_clipsTikTok: @RorysutherlandclipsX: @rorysutherlandLinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/Follow ElfriedInstagram: @elfriedsambaLinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/Follow Faris ArankiInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/farisaranki/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/farisaranki/Website: https://www.shiageto.com/A Sassy+ original podcast series

    Faris Aranki with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on IQ, EQ, FQ and why smart teams still fail

  3. Jun 21

    Josh Hart with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on AI, people and the future of work

    Josh Hart co-founded YuLife nine years ago with a simple but radical idea: digital experiences should feel as good as the best computer games, not as painful as a tax return. In this special live episode, recorded in front of an audience at YuLife HQ, he joins Rory and Elfried to ask the question every HR leader is quietly dreading: what does AI actually mean for your people?``` They cover the productivity gains nobody is talking about, how senior employees are quietly becoming the biggest beneficiaries, and what the AI moment could mean for the long-term sick. This is an honest, funny and wide-ranging conversation about the gap between the AI narrative and the AI reality.

    Josh Hart with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on AI, people and the future of work

  4. Jun 7

    James Watt with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on BrewDog, gut instinct and starting again

    James Watt quit law after two weeks, spent seven years as a captain on a North Atlantic fishing boat, then built BrewDog from two humans and a dog into a business making a million cans of beer a day. In this episode he joins Rory and Elfried to talk about the power of naivety, why differentiation always beats optimisation, and what it actually takes to build a challenger brand from nothing.He also opens up on what really happened at BrewDog — the private equity deal that almost worked brilliantly, and finishing a painful second in the bid to buy his own business back. And he reveals his plan for a new beer business called Second Best.Plus: why community will always beat audience, the danger of bottom-of-funnel obsession, and what his new platform SocialTip is doing to bring word-of-mouth marketing into the digital age. Follow RoryInstagram: @rorysutherland_clipsTikTok: @RorysutherlandclipsX: @rorysutherlandLinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/Follow ElfriedInstagram: @elfriedsambaLinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/Follow JamesInstagram: @captainjameswatt / @socialtiphq / @secondbestbeerLinkedIn: in/jameswatt-investor-entrepreneur-punk/X: @JamesBWattA Sassy+ original podcast series

    James Watt with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on BrewDog, gut instinct and starting again

  5. May 29

    Mark Tapscott and Daniel Davey with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on Britain's 1st EV sportscar

    Tesla veterans Mark Tapscott and Daniel Davey are the co-founders of Longbow Motors — a British electric sports car company with a radical idea: that cars should be getting lighter, simpler and more exciting, not heavier, duller and more expensive. They join Rory and Elfried to explain what it actually takes to build a car company from scratch in 2026. From first principles and physics to the new motor manufacturing business model, this is a conversation about great product design, the death of corporate thinking, and why the UK might be sitting on the most exciting opportunity in automotive since the internal combustion engine.

    Mark Tapscott and Daniel Davey with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on Britain's 1st EV sportscar

  6. May 10

    Jamie Bartlett with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on AI, trust and the internet

    Jamie Bartlett has spent 15 years investigating the strange corners of the internet before they crash into the mainstream. In this episode, he joins Rory and Elfried to explore how AI, video, podcasts, crypto, conspiracy culture and online subcultures are changing how we think, trust and behave. From chatbot delusions and “techno admin” to why outsiders often spot the future first, this is a funny, unsettling and deeply useful conversation about what happens when new technology meets human nature. Follow Rory Instagram: @rorysutherland_clips TikTok: @Rorysutherlandclips X: @rorysutherland LinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/ Follow Elfried Instagram: @elfriedsamba LinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/ https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/ Follow Jamie Instagram: @jamiejbartlett/ LinkedIn: in/jamie-bartlett-a091b6134/ X: @JamieJBartlett https://www.penguin.co.uk/authors/233361/jamie-bartlett A Sassy+ original podcast series

    Jamie Bartlett with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on AI, trust and the internet

  7. Apr 26

    Robbie Lyle with Elfried Samba on AFTV, Global Fan Network, and building a sports media empire

    Robbie Lyle started AFTV with a borrowed camera, a borrowed mic, and a belief that football fans deserved to be heard. Thirteen years later, he’s built one of the most influential fan media businesses in sport, with billions of views, millions of followers, and a whole new generation of creators following the path he helped create.In this episode, Robbie and Elfried explore the real story behind AFTV, from filming outside stadiums while still working as a building surveyor to building a 25-person media company across AFTV, DR Sports and the Global Fan Network.They talk about execution, fear, criticism, spotting talent, learning from new platforms, and why the biggest opportunity in media still belongs to the people willing to move first. Follow RoryInstagram: @rorysutherland_clipsTikTok: @RorysutherlandclipsX: @rorysutherlandLinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/Follow ElfriedInstagram: @elfriedsambaLinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/Website: butterflyeffect.xyz/Follow Robbie LyleInstagram: @robbielyleofficialLinkedIn: in/robbie-lyle-14a077134/Follow AFTVYouTube: @AFTVmediaWebsite: aftv.co.ukTikTok: @aftvmediaInstagram: @aftvmediaFacebook: @aftvmediaX: @aftvmediaSnapchat: @aftvmediaTwitch: @aftvmediaPodcasts: aftv.co.uk/podcastsA Sassy+ original podcast seriesInstagram: @rorysutherland_clipsTikTok: @RorysutherlandclipsX: @rorysutherlandLinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/Follow ElfriedInstagram: @elfriedsambaLinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/Website: butterflyeffect.xyz/Follow Robbie LyleInstagram: @robbielyleofficialLinkedIn: in/robbie-lyle-14a077134/Follow AFTVYouTube: @AFTVmediaWebsite: aftv.co.ukTikTok: @aftvmediaInstagram: @aftvmediaFacebook: @aftvmediaX: @aftvmediaSnapchat: @aftvmediaTwitch: @aftvmediaPodcasts: aftv.co.uk/podcastsA Sassy+ original podcast series

    Robbie Lyle with Elfried Samba on AFTV, Global Fan Network, and building a sports media empire

  8. Apr 12

    Conny Kalcher with Rory Sutherland on customer loyalty, human connection and building trust at scale

    Conny Kalcher, Chief Marketing Officer at Zurich, joins Rory Sutherland to explore why most companies get customer experience wrong. After decades at LEGO and now at one of the world’s largest insurers, she explains how businesses drift into short-term thinking — and what it takes to shift back to building real, lasting relationships. During her time at LEGO, she helped expand the brand beyond children into a global creative platform, unlocking new audiences and deeper engagement. In her current role at Zurich, she’s applying that same thinking to transform a 150-year-old organisation from product-led to customer-led. From training empathy across 60,000 employees to using AI to simplify thousands of customer interactions, this episode is about turning “customer-first” from a slogan into a system. They explore trust, retention, human behaviour, and why the companies that win are the ones that stay valuable over time. Follow Rory Instagram: @rorysutherland_clips TikTok: @Rorysutherlandclips X: @rorysutherland LinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/ Follow Elfried Instagram: @elfriedsamba LinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/ https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/ Follow Conny Kalcher LinkedIn: in/conny-kalcher-198ba5/ X: @ConnyKal A Sassy+ original podcast series

    Conny Kalcher with Rory Sutherland on customer loyalty, human connection and building trust at scale
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Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, and Elfried Samba, CEO and Co-Founder of Butterfly Effect and former Global Head of Social at Gymshark, explore the hidden blocks that slow teams down, from flawed strategies to missed cultural signals and outdated thinking.   Each episode breaks down a real challenge through the lens of behavioural science, digital strategy, and lived experience. Through conversations with industry pioneers and creative thinkers, they unpack why teams fail and reveal secrets for driving progress.   Joined by guests who’ve built, rebuilt, or reimagined entire industries, Rory and Elfried challenge assumptions, unpack failure, and explore what moves the needle.   Powered by Sassy+ www.sassyplus.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  • Creator
    Bottleneck Podcast
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    24
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Bottleneck Podcast
  • Show Website
    The Bottleneck Podcast

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