The Business Oddcast

Stuart Morrison & Hannah Logan

The Podcast for Neurodivergent Business Owners. No hustle culture, no corporate nonsense, just honest conversations about running a business with a 'spicy brain', and real-world tested resources that help. You don’t need a diagnosis to listen. Unmask, relax & explore. No small talk… Guaranteed! Hello, welcome to the Business Oddcast! We’re Hannah & Stu, two late-diagnosed, awesome-brained humans figuring out how to run businesses without pretending to be “normal.” We’re so excited to share stories, insights, & laughs with you as we celebrate the business brilliance of the ASD, ADHD, AuDHD and neurodivergent community. This is where we unmask, swap real stories, and dive into the gloriously odd side of entrepreneurship without any corporate “small talk” and forced networking smiles, just honest, weird, and wonderfully creative conversations. Sign-up for notifications & join the Odd Squad, and be notified when each new episode drops… because we know your executive function might not remind you! businessoddcast.com

  1. Aug 12

    When Your Special Interest Becomes Your Business - S01E37

    You know that thing you'd do for free, at 2am, for eleven hours straight, without eating? Yeah. What happens when someone pays you for THAT? Welcome back to the Business Oddcast — the podcast for neurodivergent entrepreneurs, hyperfocused founders, and anyone who's ever turned a "weird little hobby" into an actual, functioning business (and then wondered why the joy disappeared). This week, Hannah and Stu are diving headfirst into the obsession-to-income pipeline: the dopamine highs, the hyperfocus spirals, the accidental business empires built out of pure special-interest chaos — and the very real tension of loving something SO much you forget to charge for it properly. We're talking monetising by-products, mastering the firebreak, why "successful" can quietly become "trapped," and — because we never do just one topic — a full-throttle rant about late diagnosis and female healthcare. Plus: Stu's branding meltdown, Hannah's graveyard of past businesses, and why building a business that grows with you is basically a 1970s cartoon. Special interest. Actual income. Zero chill. Let's get into it. Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:00:21 - Introducing the NeuroInclusive Workspace - Take the NIq Audit 00:03:40 - Topic of the Week - When Your Special Interest Becomes Your Business 00:03:50 - Topic introduction - What happens when the thing you love, pays the bills. 00:05:38 - Projects, ideas. EVERYWHERE! Hannah lists her earlier businesses 00:07:07 - What's the catalyst for the change?  00:09:30 - The tension - being paid for something you'd do for free and not making (enough) money - LINK TO PREVIOUS EPISODE ON PRICING BELOW 00:13:29 - The Obsession Stage - doing what you LOVE! Stu's branding challenge  00:16:25 - Monetising obsessions - can you "sell" the "by-products"? - LINK TO BLOG ABOUT DOPAMINE BELOW 00:17:53 - Obsessions are a dopamine rich environment - but are important 00:19:21 - Why the obsession stage is important when starting out 00:20:36 - Obsessions build knowledge, which can be sold, but avoid the death of joy 00:21:40 - When passion creates chaos and the repercussions of hyperfocus 00:23:30 - Mastering the obsessive hyperfocus & importance of firebreaks 00:26:08 - Passion projects can boost energy, or at least drain you less quickly 00:26:59 - The three issues that always derail your finely balanced energy needs 00:28:17 - Why loving what you do helps more than "the money's good". 00:31:05 - What happens when all the business stuff steals the joy?  00:33:40 - Why successful small businesses become the perfect jail cell 00:34:40 - Stu - A RANT ABOUT LATE DIAGNOSIS AND FEMALE HEALTHCARE! 00:36:01 - What's the best business move when the passion fades? 00:39:09 - Reap the rewards of idle curiosity  00:42:50 - Why building a business that grows with you is like 1970s cartoon Mr. Ben 00:44:55 - Hannah's tips and takeaways 00:46:45 - Stu's tips and takeaways 00:52:00 - Round up and plug for our NeuroInclusiveWorkplace.com 00:55:55 - LENGTH ------------------------------------- RESOURCES https://businessoddcast.com/podcast/pricing-when-you-dont-trust-your-sense-of-value-s01e32/ - BLOG - Following The Dopamine. https://businessoddcast.com/following-the-dopamine - EP32 - Pricing When You Don’t Trust Your Sense of Value . https://businessoddcast.com/the-oddcast-manifesto - Link to the Neuroinclusive Manifesto, Lets build a better, more inclusive society. https://businessoddcast.com/niq-free-audit target - A Neuroinclusive Workplace self-audit test for employers, teams, and the self-employed. Built on the social model of disability and the idea that barriers are designed in environments, not people. https://shineradio.uk - Local Radio Petersfield, Bordon & Whitehill and beyond! https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling. https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for Neurodiverse business owners, helping you thrive, survive and live more fulfilling lives. ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT Resources: https://businessoddcast.com/help Contact us: hosts@businessoddcast.com  OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

  2. Jul 29

    Why Some Rooms Make ND Brains Scream - S01E36

    Ep36 - Why Some Rooms Make Neurodivergent Brains Scream Walk into a networking event and feel your nervous system hit the alarm before you've said a word? You're not broken, the room is badly designed. This week we break down why "just show up and mingle" is agony for ND brains: the unwritten social rules nobody explains, the masking that starts before you're even through the door, and the exhausting calculation of tracking what everyone thinks of you. We name the real cost, event tax, energy overdrafts, and call out why "be more resilient" is terrible advice. Then we get practical. Who's in the room changes everything: accepted vs. evaluated, belonging vs. tolerated. We talk escape planning, why no chairs can genuinely ruin your night, why background music sabotages conversations, and we share our "yes, and..." trick for finding your people fast. If you've ever left an event drained and wondering what's wrong with you, this episode is your answer, and your survival kit. Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:00:34 - Topic of the Week - Why Some Rooms Make ND Brains Scream  00:00:59 - Topic introduction - Why do some spaces feel hostile and unwelcoming? 00:02:00 - Why are networking rooms so challenging? A room of uncertainty! 00:03:55 - The UNWRITTEN (social) RULES!  00:05:41 - Managing the cognitive load overthinking what people think of you 00:06:18 - The masking starts before you even get in the room, like Pulp Fiction 00:09:03 - How to find the nicest, spiciest people in the room... 00:11:22 - Event tax, energy overdrafts - just be more resilient! 00:13:36 - Who is in the room makes a difference - are you a needy networker? 00:14:40 - Being accepted vs feel evaluated. Who's in the room matters! 00:17:39 - Belonging vs "fitting in" vs being tolerated...  00:20:30 - The weight of perception and being perceived 00:22:00 - The nightmare of overlapping friend's groups 00:25:31 - Seeking safety and Hannah's escape planning 00:27:32 - When you HAVE to do the thing you don't want to do. Some tips. 00:29:51 - Our other podcasts on Business Networking 00:30:12 - The safety of predictability & other networking tips 00:33:21 - Making spaces better, safer and predictable, you know; INCLUSIVE!  00:35:03 - Hannah's story about a chair - RAGE INDUCING! 00:38:21 - The dangers of music in the room... 00:40:07 - When you find the people you click with   00:41:33 - The improv principle of "Yes, and..." 00:44:01 - NDs dance, NTs duel - discuss   00:45:00 - Hannah's  takeaways and insights 00:47:53 - Stu's top tips and thoughts 00:53:37 - Thank you and goodbye 00:55:00 - August's theme - Special Interests and Hyperfocus 00:56:24 - LENGTH ------------------------------------- RESOURCES https://businessoddcast.com/the-oddcast-manifesto - Link to the Neuroinclusive Manifesto, Lets build a better, more inclusive society. https://businessoddcast.com/niq-free-audit target - A Neuroinclusive Workplace self-audit test for employers, teams, and the self-employed. Built on the social model of disability and the idea that barriers are designed in environments, not people. https://shineradio.uk - Local Radio Petersfield, Bordon & Whitehill and beyond! https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling. https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for Neurodiverse business owners, helping you thrive, survive and live more fulfilling lives. ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT businessoddcast.com hosts@businessoddcast.com OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

  3. Jul 8

    Pathological Demand Avoidance - Trait Talking S01E01

    Pathological Demand Avoidance aka PDA - Trait Talking S01E01 In our series for the Neuroinclusive Workplace we are looking at traits, and their impact on the neurodivergent. Today we discuss PDA; what's PDA? Pathological Demand Avoidance... Ever been asked to do something you were literally about to do… and suddenly your brain responds with a very firm "Absolutely not"? Welcome to the wonderfully confusing world of PDA. In this first episode of our new Trait Talking series, we take a closer look at one of the most misunderstood neurodivergent traits. We explore why demands – whether they come from other people or from ourselves – can trigger genuine resistance, why PDA isn't about being difficult or lazy, and why so many of us end up questioning our own reactions. We also talk about the everyday reality of living with PDA: deadlines that somehow make a task harder, the difference between procrastination and demand avoidance, why body doubling doesn't work for everyone, and how a simple change in language can make a surprising difference. Along the way, we share plenty of our own lived experiences (including unopened presents, dishwashers, DIY, hugs, and tax returns) because, as ever, neurodivergence rarely follows a straight line. Whether you identify with PDA yourself, live with someone who does, or simply want to understand why "just do it" is rarely that simple, this episode is a compassionate introduction to a trait that's often hidden behind misunderstanding. Because understanding what's happening inside your brain is often the first step towards being a little kinder to yourself. Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:00:50 - Today's Trait - Intro to Pathological Demand Avoidance - PDA  00:02:18 - Description of Pathological Demand Avoidance - PDA  00:04:20 - Hannah's lived experience - the internal PDA pressure  00:06:45 - Gaslighting yourself about your own PDA 00:08:15 - I will open presents in my own time TYVM! 00:10:20 - The "Naughty Child" label 00:12:02 - "I need that for Wednesday at 3pm" - NOPE! Better deadline scheduling 00:15:01 - Why it's not just procrastination 00:16:21 - Can bodydoubling help?    00:17:35 - PDA affects more than just work, even making decisions comes with PDA 00:19:26 - PDA can turn up at the worst possible time too with accomplices 00:23:01 - Managing staff with PDA and the importance of context and "feeling it" 00:25:00 - Why you don't say "We need to leave now" & gaslighting your own PDA 00:26:30 - Round up and outro thank you and goodbye 00:27:15 - Hugging... nope...  00:29:19 - Like, Share and Subscribe 00:29:45 - LENGTH ------------------------------------- RESOURCES https://here2help.uk/further-information/ - Fab resource and amazing organisation raising awareness and support for autistic suicide prevention.  https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling. https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for Neurodiverse business owners, helping you thrive, survive and live more fulfilling lives. ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT Resources: https://businessoddcast.com/help Contact us: hosts@businessoddcast.com  OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

  4. Jun 15

    The No Toolkit - Boundaries for ND Brains - S01E34

    Episode 34: The ‘No’ toolkit- Boundaries for ND brains  For something that's only two letters long, "no" can create a truly astonishing amount of panic. One boundary becomes a guilt spiral, three imagined arguments, and a sudden urge to explain your entire life story to justify why you can't help someone move house on a Tuesday afternoon. In this episode, we unpack why saying no can feel so disproportionately difficult for neurodivergent people. From people-pleasing and rejection sensitivity to masking, perfectionism, and the fear of disappointing others, we explore why so many of us end up saying yes long after we've run out of time, energy, and capacity. We talk about overcommitting, resentment, energy management, and the hidden cost of constantly putting everyone else's needs ahead of our own. We also share practical strategies for creating boundaries that actually stick, including scripts, pause techniques, recognising when resentment is trying to tell you something important, and learning how to say no without writing a 14-page witness statement in your defence. Because boundaries aren't about being difficult. They're about making sure there's still enough of you left for the things that matter. If you've ever agreed to something and immediately regretted it... this one's for you. Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:00:46 - Topic of the Week - The No Toolkit - Boundaries for ND Brains 00:01:21 - Topic introduction - No, boundaries and protection   00:03:28 - Why the concept of "no" feels so big & risky    00:05:19 - How burnout affects priorities, no as a survival tactic 00:06:32 - The cost of "no" and creating room for rest and recovery 00:09:10 - What a disproportionate reaction to new boundaries means 00:10:51 - The cost of over-accommodation of others 00:12:43 - The bigger the excuse you give the more they have to work with 00:13:23 - The soft "no" - the calendar check-in before response 00:15:26 - Why saying "yes" is a dopamine trap... 00:17:05 - TANGENT 01 - Stu muses on ND's naive quality that gets taken advantage of 00:18:20 - Boundaries aren't control - it's about protecting our energy 00:19:00 - TANGENT 02 - Hannah shares a real-world example of not saying no 00:20:03 - Do you respect and believe your own "No"?  00:20:50 - Resenting not saying NO!  00:22:13 - Approaches to saying "no"  00:26:40 - Dealing with repeat offenders 00:27:43 - Saying no to yourself is often the hardest boundary to impose 00:31:33 - Energy management lesson learned from running 00:32:02 - Rest Guilt and struggling to switch off and resting being "lazy" 00:35:28 - Why are you full of resentment when you say yes? 00:37:01 - Red flagging unwarranted and disproportionate push back Pt2. 00:37:50 - When "no" can be detrimental, conserve your energy strategically 00:40:22 - You don't owe them your life story to put a boundary in place 00:43:17 - Stuart's business confession about his diary 00:45:07 - The double empathy trap keeping you time-starved and energy poor 00:46:03 - Stu's energy issues with short-notice change 00:47:40 - Is it you or your mask saying "yes"? 00:50:08 - HELL YEAH! or F&CK NO! 00:50:30 - Hannah takeaways and insights 00:54:45 - Stu's top tips and thoughts 00:57:58 - Thank you and goodbye 00:59:47 - LENGTH   ------------------------------------- RESOURCES HTML RESOURCES https://here2help.uk/further-information/ - Fab resource and amazing organisation raising awareness and support for autistic suicide prevention.  https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling. https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for Neurodiverse business owners, helping you thrive, survive and live more fulfilling lives. ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT Resources: https://businessoddcast.com/help Contact us: hosts@businessoddcast.com  OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

  5. Jun 3

    Success Feels Weird When You’re Used to Struggling - S01E33

    DESCRIPTION - FULL Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:00:31 - Topic of the Week - Success Feels Weird When You’re Used to Struggling 00:00:46 - Topic introduction - Exploring challange of success, and feral badgers    00:02:24 - Disclaimer - plan for the best, expect the worse, what happens when plans work ? 00:03:37 - We explore why 'survival mode' feels familiar - the safety of chaos. 00:04:28 - Stuart's brain needs to define "success" - and a note about today's topic 00:06:24 - Hannah's "goals" define her anti-hustle culture "success"  00:08:28 - Example of survival mode being familiar and comfortable 00:10:48 - Overfunctioning becoming our identity & why we feel worthwhile  00:12:28 - Unreasonable self-expectations and over-delivery excuses your Oddness 00:15:59 - Your worth should not be based on your "success" and your wins 00:18:21 - Shouting about your wins can feel un-authentic, and irrelevant because, NEXT! 00:20:45 - Protestant work ethic, work harder, do more, no rest, ever onward! 00:21:55 - The discomfort of receiving - Link to Birthdays EPISODE 00:23:43 - Awkwardly receiving praise, FLIPPIN G THE SCRIPT... 00:24:42 - The struggle to ask for, or accept ANY help.  00:26:52 - Summary of this section ... 00:27:19 - Success level up - new unexpected fears unlocked! 00:30:17 - When is enough enough? WHen do you stop trying to achieve MORE!   00:30:55 - IMPOSTER'S SYNDROME ENTERS THE CHAT - staying grounded helps 00:33:00 - When our business becomes more visible, it raises the emotional stakes  00:35:15 - RSD raises the emotional stakes whe you "go public" with your thoughts 00:37:23 - ND is woven into your energy - is your "success" sustainable long term? 00:41:30 - Are you constantly "almost there"? Is your perfectionism running the show? 00:42:48 - How to overcome perfectionism, Stu's tolerance tool! 00:44:37 - The tyranny of perfectionism and the addic tion of productivity 00:48:07 - Learning to tolerate the calm 00:52:20 - Hannah takeaways and insights - your worth is more than you productivty 00:55:28 - Stu's top tips and thoughts - celebrate wins and use buffer day  s FTW! 00:57:53   - Thank you and goodbye 00:58:50 - LENGTH ------------------------------------- RESOURCES Link to Podcast about surviving celebrations Link to blog post on undervaluing your services Link to the Neuro-inclusive Oddcast Manifesto https://shineradio.uk - Local Radio Petersfield, Bordon & Whitehill and beyond! https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling. https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for Neurodiverse business owners, helping you thrive, survive and live more fulfilling lives. ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT Resources: https://businessoddcast.com/help Contact us: hosts@businessoddcast.com  OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

  6. May 6

    Pricing When You Don’t Trust Your Sense of Value - S01E32

    Episode 32: Pricing When You Don’t Trust Your Sense of Value Eps 32 - Pricing When You Don’t Trust Your Sense of Value Pricing should be simple, shouldn’t it? Work out the time, add the costs, decide the margin, send the quote, float away looking financially competent. Lovely. Except for many neurodivergent business owners, pricing is rarely just maths. It gets tangled up with self-worth, rejection sensitivity, time blindness, imposter syndrome, financial instability, and the quiet horror of someone saying, “Is that your best price?” In this episode, we unpack why pricing can feel so emotionally loaded when your internal sense of value is a bit… wobbly. We talk about undercharging, overexplaining, defensive pricing, “just jobs”, comparison spirals, and why your price is not a referendum on your worth as a human being. We also get into the very real cost of giving away time you didn’t mean to give away, especially when every “quick favour” comes with admin, context switching, recovery time, and a small existential wobble. This is about building pricing that is grounded in reality, not panic. Tracking your time, reviewing your rates, adding buffers, practising pricing conversations, and learning to sit in the silence after you’ve said the number. Because you are not charging for approval. You are charging for skill, experience, capacity, and the life force required to do the work properly. Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:00:31 - Introducing May's Theme - Money, Worth and Neurodivergent Business Confidence  00:00:55 - Topic of the Week - Pricing When You Don’t Trust Your Sense of Value 00:01:11 - Topic introduction - Pricing is more than just maths, there's self worth, rejection 00:02:40 - Pricing Is Emotional, Not Logical - Pricing is a  popularity contest 00:04:54 - Stu's views on small business pricing, service offering and market place fit 00:07:05 - Under-appreciating your own value, experience, age and soft skills matter 00:09:45 - Time-blindness and value distortion, with hyperfocus and giving away hours 00:11:41 - The value distortion of "Just Jobs" and making sure your time is valued 00:13:45 - Monotropism and hyperfocus impact on time efficiency  00:14:33 - Comparison spiral and how it distorts and reduces your sense of value  00:15:40 - The perception distortion lens, a story about being a lookalike and a lesson in pricing  00:19:50 - BUT... what happens when IMPOSTER'S SYNDROME rides in... How do beat I.S? 00:21:30 - With... the "Hair Treatment"...  00:23:00 - Shout out to Charlie Ruttle! and the antidote to Imposter's Syndrome 00:24:39 - Capacity, anxiety and defensive pricing 00:27:01 - One price doesn't fit all and capacity is variable 00:29:00 - RSD, pricing, billing, fiscal fear and over-justifying your pricing 00:32:00 - The answer... that Stu uses... FIRST THE DISCLAIMER 00:36:40 - Self confidence is required at some point as is a purpose 00:38:15 - The grateful to be paid pattern, employment, debt and financial attitudes 00:40:50 - The power of the silence after you state your price... 00:45:45 - Ideas for designing pricing with nervous system safety in mind   00:46:10 - Hannah's takeaways 00:49:30 - Stu's top tips 00:56:45 - Final words - like, share and subscribe.  00:57:55 - Next Week's content 00:59:47 - LENGTH ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT Resources: https://businessoddcast.com/help Contact us: hosts@businessoddcast.com  OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

  7. Apr 22

    Executive Dysfunction Diaries: What it Actually Feels Like - S01E31

    Episode 31: Executive Dysfunction Diaries   Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:00:52 - Topic of the Week - Executive Dysfunction Diaries: What it Actually Feels Like. 00:01:05 - Topic introduction - deep dive into how executive function failed us in our lives & businesses 00:03:20 - Model of overwhelmed brain executive function brain nopery and raw dogging it on caffeine 00:04:30 - The intention/action gap... how we fail to start and how i t erodes your confidence  00:07:35 - Tips on how to get started, eventually, because we expect our brain to nope 00:10:18 - Accepting the reality you face and not fighting it, tickle your brain 00:11:13 - Task initiation paralysis - starting but not being able to begin 00:12:14 - The footbath effect... 00:13:35 - Hannah's lady brain off picking the flowers... 00:14:10 - How do you know if anyone's run a marathon? 00:14:21 - No emotion before motion and the wall of negative reaction to the task  00:16:19 - How do you do that? The voices in Stuart's head 00:18:25 - Hannah's verson of the Sgt Major. 00:18:47 - The overwhelm of everything being important all at once and where to start 00:19:41 - Stu's "roast dinner" approach to tasks analogy 00:21:00 - What comes first? Hannah's triage process and forcing herself to eat the frog 00:22:38 - The devil is in the detail - and details are also a rabbit hole  00:24:31 - Time blindness - Hannah and Stu's nemesis and the word "JUST"! 00:27:38 - When asked about timescale - "What would you say"? and "idiot tax" 00:29:24 - The emotional friction around tasks and the battle with boredom  00:30:30 - The burden of perfectionism, detail and high standards 00:32:00 - Things Stu has learned the hard way of being at the cheap end of the market  00:33:33 - The dangers of "Boredom" and the effects on the ND brain 00:35:50 - Perfection delay - unable to finish as the project may fall short of perfection 00:36:41 - Shame, anger and frustration as your background noise 00:39:27 - The cost of "pushing through" and forcing yourself through executive dysfunction 00:44:10 - The aftermath of completion - mourning the end of a great project 00:46:24 - Hannah's biggest client red flag and how to avoid ALL project red flags 00:48:45 - Roundup - H's takeaways, amd S's hints and tips 00:54:06 - Get in touch, let us know your thoughts 01:00:00 - LENGTH ------------------------------------- RESOURCES https://here2help.uk/further-information/ - Fab resource and amazing organisation raising awareness and support for autistic suicide prevention.  https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling. https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for neurodivergent business owners. ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT Resources: https://businessoddcast.com/help Contact us: hosts@businessoddcast.com  OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

  8. Apr 1

    Inbox is Lava - S01E30

    Episode 30: The Inbox Is Lava For something that technically takes a few minutes, the inbox has an impressive ability to feel like a full-blown psychological event. One email becomes ten decisions, three imagined consequences, and a low-level sense that you’re about to be told off… even when it’s just “checking in”. In this episode, we unpack why the inbox feels so overwhelming for neurodivergent brains — from context switching and decision fatigue to RSD, avoidance spirals, and that very specific dread of seeing a new notification and immediately assuming the worst. We talk about the “avoidance snowball”, the shame loop of delayed replies, and why small admin tasks can quietly drain more energy than the actual work. We also get practical: triaging your inbox, switching off notifications, using templates and systems to reduce cognitive load, and setting clear expectations so your day isn’t hijacked by everyone else’s priorities. Because the goal isn’t inbox zero — it’s regulation, containment, and making admin feel manageable again. If your inbox feels less like a tool and more like a threat… this one’s for you.   Please share with anyone you think this topic might resonate with. Send any questions or suggestions to or contact us here: hosts@businessoddcast.com Don't forget to like and subscribe or follow along on the socials, see below timeline for details. Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work! ------------------------------------- TIMELINE 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction 00:01:01 - Topic of the Week - Inbox is Lava  00:01:30 - Topic introduction - Why the inbox is lava! 00:04:00 - Hannah's inbox process 00:04:30 - Why small tasks feel overwhelming esp. email 00:04:47 - Inbox top tip - snooze email 00:07:30 - Context switching and constent triage 00:08:56 - Taming the emotional chaos of the inbox 00:11:07 - Reducing the anxiety & tyrrany of notifications 00:12:50 - Unable to switch off without responding same-day to ALL emails  00:14:00 - The ND "TO DO" list analogy and H's trauma dump 00:15:30 - The avoidance snowballing shame spiral 00:16:52 - The voices in your head, dread and avoidance 00:18:22 - Noisy unopened emails  00:19:44 - Red Rope around your time, everytime. Who respects your time? 00:21:26 - Unopened emails & waiting on SPECIFIC emails & cognative residue 00:23:01 - Conflicting client masking and overcoming it  00:24:53 - Coping with pending tasks, messages and the call of the inbox 00:27:24 - The stress of unknown unknowns 00:28:25 - Templates, processes and systems for reducing decision fatigue  00:30:36 - Some practical tips on how to quieten a noisy inbox 00:31:36 - Use of out of office to acknowledge receipt and speed of response  00:33:25 - Pre-triage notes on comms to communicate response time 00:34:54 - RSD, response time, over analysing and misinterpreting meaning 00:36:21 - Missing the social cues when in "work mode". 00:37:14 - How do we redefine admin success?  00:38:24 - What your business actually does & you're not your business 00:38:52 - The two succeasful models for small business success 00:40:06 - A barebones business saves energy - Stu's business insights 00:42:20 - The first task for any business owner within their business 00:43:57 - Inbox zero is NOT the goal, OCD be damned!  00:45:37 - Hannah's "Tips n Takeaways" starting with "admin fear"  00:46:35 - Boundaries, containment and templates 00:47:09 - SET FIRE TO PERFECTIONISM! 00:47:40 - Stu's "Tips" - clear communication is key 00:48:20 - Build a routine around email checking at SPECIFIC times 00:50:01 - Templates, processes and systems are your friends 00:51:12 - Archive & label to organise your email is key to happiness 00:52:44 - Stop at "good enough" - perfectionism is a mofo 00:53:37 - H's Tangent Queen in full effect 00:54:41 - Start slowly, and a genuine offer of help 00:55:50 - Final words, like,  share and subscribe 00:58:25 - LENGTH   -------------------------------------  RESOURCES https://here2help.uk/further-information/ - Fab resource and amazing organisation raising awareness and support for autistic suicide prevention.  Information regarding Alexythimia and other helpful autism and autistic related factsheets on the link. https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling. https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for Neurodiverse business owners, helping you thrive, survive and live more fulfilling lives. ------------------------------------- OUR WEBSITE & CONTACT Resources: https://businessoddcast.com/help Contact us: hosts@businessoddcast.com  OUR SOCIALS youtube.com/BusinessOddcast facebook.com/BusinessOddcast instagram.com/BusinessOddcast

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The Podcast for Neurodivergent Business Owners. No hustle culture, no corporate nonsense, just honest conversations about running a business with a 'spicy brain', and real-world tested resources that help. You don’t need a diagnosis to listen. Unmask, relax & explore. No small talk… Guaranteed! Hello, welcome to the Business Oddcast! We’re Hannah & Stu, two late-diagnosed, awesome-brained humans figuring out how to run businesses without pretending to be “normal.” We’re so excited to share stories, insights, & laughs with you as we celebrate the business brilliance of the ASD, ADHD, AuDHD and neurodivergent community. This is where we unmask, swap real stories, and dive into the gloriously odd side of entrepreneurship without any corporate “small talk” and forced networking smiles, just honest, weird, and wonderfully creative conversations. Sign-up for notifications & join the Odd Squad, and be notified when each new episode drops… because we know your executive function might not remind you! businessoddcast.com