The Radical Moderate

Pat O'Brien

The Radical Moderate cuts through the noise with sharp, practical conversations about how we move forward as a country. Hosted by businessman and author Pat O’Brien, the show brings clarity, candor, and a willingness to challenge lazy thinking. Whether in business, politics, or culture, we need a fresh approach to how we address problems—and this podcast delivers just that. Every week, in just 30 minutes, Pat explores solutions that respect ideals but measure results. This is moderation with teeth: ideas that hold up over time.

  1. 1D AGO

    Ep. 18 - The Hidden Half: Dyslexia Misunderstood & Underserved | With the Nelm's Dyslexia Center Pt 2

    One in five learners may struggle to read, yet the path to support is clearer than most families are told. We sit down with Melissa Duersch of the Nelms Dyslexia Center and Scott Simon of the Don and Millie Nelms Foundation to chart exactly how parents, teachers, and schools can move from confusion to progress. From the first red flags, mispronunciations, trouble recalling the alphabet or days of the week, to statewide screening and rigorous therapist training, we connect the dots between early awareness and real results. We break down a key distinction: dyslexia is neurological, but the solution is educational. No medication rewires reading; structured literacy does. Melissa explains what effective intervention looks like and why Certified Academic Language Therapists (CALT) are the gold standard, requiring deep study, mentored practice, and a national exam. Scott pulls back the curtain on Arkansas’ model: early, twice-yearly screenings and a push to expand the trained workforce, while calling out the capacity gap that leaves too many students waiting. We also tackle the ADHD overlap and the risk of misdiagnosis when frustration looks like inattention. Parents get a practical playbook for what to do right now: use audiobooks to build oral language, name and nurture a child’s strengths, and celebrate progress to fuel resilience through hard work. We share stories of students who were once convinced they were “dumb” and later found traction across subjects as confidence grew. Creativity and problem solving aren’t footnotes here; they’re often the very traits that make dyslexic thinkers stand out in classrooms and careers. If your district is deciding how to invest, or your family is looking for the first step, this conversation offers both strategy and hope. If this resonates, subscribe, share the episode with someone who needs it, and leave a review to help more families find the help they deserve.

    31 min
  2. JAN 28

    Ep. 17 - Dyslexia and the Hidden Education Crisis | With the Nelm's Dyslexia Center

    What if one in five people reads the world differently, and our schools aren’t built for them? We sit down with Melissa Duersch of the Nelms Dyslexia Center and Scott Simon of the Don and Millie Nelms Foundation to trace the path from a parent’s alarm to a community-wide solution. Melissa shares how her son’s slow start with letters and sounds collided with a system that shrugged, and how structured literacy, explicit, cumulative, multisensory instruction, unlocked proficiency by fifth grade. We pull back the lens to show what families face across the country: confusing early signs, conflicting advice, and inconsistent school support. Arkansas stands out with strong K–3 screening laws and a developing statewide Atlas screener, yet implementation varies and many states still lack systematic screening. That gap has real stakes. Research suggests up to 20 percent of people have dyslexia. Without early identification and targeted intervention, children who know they’re different by age four can spiral into anxiety, depression, and school avoidance. With the right approach, the same neurological differences that challenge decoding often power big-picture thinking, creativity, and leadership, traits overrepresented among entrepreneurs and innovators. We also map what happens when families reach the Nelms Dyslexia Center: assessments that confirm or clarify dyslexia, detailed profiles that highlight strengths, and clear next steps for school accommodations and therapy. Scott shares how the foundation built a regional hub focused on student services and teacher training, bringing rigor and empathy under one roof. If you’re a parent, educator, or policymaker, this conversation offers a practical blueprint: universal screening, science-of-reading instruction, and pathways that respect both the struggle and the strengths of dyslexic learners. If this resonates, follow the show, share it with someone who needs clarity, and leave a review to help more families find evidence-based help.

    30 min
  3. JAN 21

    Ep. 16 - Intersection Economics: A New Way to See the System

    What if the economy isn’t a maze to solve but a city to manage, one intersection at a time? We take a practical lens to markets, debt, and reform by introducing “intersection economics,” a rule-set that prioritizes safe, efficient flow over ideology and quick fixes. Instead of arguing about who should drive, we define how to keep the lights timed, the lanes clear, and the incentives aligned so people and capital move where they create the most value. We start by confronting a hard truth: meaningful reform rarely happens without pain. From the Great Depression’s sweeping changes to the 1970s fight against inflation and the partial clean-up after 2008, crises created the pressure to act. With structural deficits, compounding interest costs, and entitlement promises colliding with demographics, the signals are flashing again. The question isn’t whether to choose winners; it’s whether to design the intersection so winners emerge from clear rules and transparent trade-offs. Our framework breaks down three failure modes you see in the wild: chaos (no lights), overreach (everything stops for perfect safety), and corruption (the “cop” waves through whoever pays). We map those to economic realities, laissez faire blowups, paralyzing regulation, and regulatory capture, and then lay out a better role for government: set the signals, update them with data, and measure success by flow. That means adaptive fiscal rules, countercyclical safeguards, and visible triggers that adjust benefits and contributions before a crash happens. We apply this concretely to Social Security, proposing automatic, transparent adjustments that protect the vulnerable while restoring balance. If you’re tired of doom without direction, this is a blueprint you can use to judge policies and demand better ones. Listen to rethink how markets, policy, and incentives fit together, and how smarter “traffic lights” can cut crashes, speed recovery, and grow opportunity.  Enjoyed the conversation? Follow, share with a friend who loves pragmatic policy, and leave a review with the one “light” you’d retime first.

    30 min
  4. JAN 14

    Ep. 15 - The Debt Bomb Is Ticking

    A 38 trillion dollar debt is a big number, but the ratio is the real warning sign. We walk through a century of U.S. debt-to-GDP, from a lean 16 percent in 1929 to a wartime peak after WWII, and finally to today’s structurally heavy load near 120 percent. The difference matters: wartime borrowing was a temporary surge with a clear cause and a path to unwind; our current weight is the result of demographics, health care inflation, persistent deficits, and a political culture that promises more than growth can cover. We dig into the math behind Social Security’s stress test: a worker-to-beneficiary ratio that slid from 5:1 to near 3:1 and is heading toward 2:1. That simple shift drives the entire fiscal outlook, especially when paired with longer lifespans and rising medical costs. Defense outlays won’t shrink in a riskier world, and interest payments now act like an interest-only mortgage on the nation’s balance sheet. Add in uneven growth, tax cuts that didn’t fully pay for themselves, and crisis spending from 2008 and COVID, and you get a debt burden that behaves less like a speed bump and more like a chronic condition. We also revisit missed chances to turn the ship. Simpson-Bowles outlined a credible path to reduce the ratio toward 60 percent, eventually lower, blending spending reform with new revenue. Politics balked. That leaves a menu of hard but workable steps: gradually raising the retirement age in line with longevity, adjusting benefits progressively, lifting the payroll tax cap, pursuing health care payment reforms and price transparency, broadening legal immigration to strengthen the workforce, and rebuilding a broader tax base. None is a silver bullet; together they form a realistic plan to trade short-term discomfort for long-term stability. If you care about financial resilience, this conversation offers a clear framework, historical context, and practical moves for households and policymakers.  Subscribe, share with a friend who loves data-driven arguments, and leave a review with the one reform you’d accept today to avoid a harsher reckoning tomorrow.

    30 min
  5. JAN 7

    Ep. 14 - Let AI Fix Congress

    The fight over Congress doesn’t start on election day; it starts on the map. We unpack how gerrymandering turns general elections into afterthoughts, supercharges primaries, and rewards the loudest voices over the most effective problem solvers. Using Texas and California as a live case study, we follow the mid-decade redraw arms race and show how safe seats harden polarization, fuel budget brinkmanship, and make shutdowns more likely. The throughline is simple and uncomfortable: when politicians pick their voters, voters get less power and the center gets squeezed out. So what would it take to flip the incentive structure? We make the case for AI-drawn districts that follow clear, public rules already anchored in law: equal population, contiguity, compactness, community boundaries, and Voting Rights Act protections. No partisan data. No thumb on the scale. Just transparent code, auditable outputs, and a nonpartisan technical committee setting parameters. Think of it as using technology to enforce the rules humans keep bending, with courts and the public able to test and challenge the results. Skeptical? We address the biggest objections head-on: algorithmic bias, democratic control, and constitutional footing. Then we lay out a practical path to proof: run AI side-by-side with current methods, publish hundreds of valid map options, and let independent experts score compactness and compliance. If neutral maps create more competitive districts, parties will be forced to recruit candidates who can win broad coalitions, exactly the kind of moderates who can pass budgets and tackle issues like healthcare and debt without constant crisis. If you want less theater and more governing, start with the game board. Listen, share, and tell us where you stand. And if this sparks ideas, spread the word and reach out, we’re building space for smarter fixes. If you found value here, subscribe, leave a review, and send this to someone who’s tired of rigged incentives and ready for better maps.

    31 min
  6. JAN 5

    Ep. 13 – Echoes of ’68: Are We Stronger Today?

    What if the fire of 1968 and the anxiety of today are different kinds of hard? We take a clear-eyed look at war, political violence, civil rights, the economy, and trust to see where the late 1960s truly outpace our current moment, and where 2024–2025 may be more fragile. Vietnam drafted our neighbors and filled living rooms with combat footage; Ukraine and Gaza reshape foreign policy and campus protests, but don’t send most American families to the mailbox in fear. The civil rights movement was a moral reckoning that transformed law and life, while today’s culture fights feel smaller yet still divisive. And political violence? 1968 carried the assassinations of MLK and RFK; our era saw January 6 and a near-fatal attempt on Donald Trump. Inches mattered, and the nation exhaled. Economics flips the narrative. The 1960s ran on growth and manageable debt; today, the federal burden hovers around total GDP, interest costs box in policy, and upward mobility feels uncertain. That background pressure shapes every argument, from foreign aid to social programs, and hardens partisan lines. Layer in the media shift, from curated nightly news to an endless feed where rumors sprint and corrections limp, and you get a slow erosion of institutional trust that’s hard to reverse. We’re not reliving 1968, but we are carrying a quieter, structural strain. Our take: use history for perspective, focus on stabilizing what’s within reach, budgets, norms, and shared facts, and avoid the false comfort of outrage. Listen for a grounded comparison and practical ways a radical moderate can keep the center from collapsing. If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a review with your take: which era feels harder to you and why?

    31 min
  7. 12/24/2025

    Ep. 12 - You’re More Talented Than You Think

    Ever had your plan evaporate overnight and wondered what’s left when the title goes quiet? That’s where  found myself after a narrow statewide loss and a forced pause that led me to Italy and a dog-eared copy of Ken Robinson’s The Element. Somewhere between Florence and a hillside in Tuscany, I started rethinking what “smart” means, why creativity isn’t optional, and how to rebuild a life that fits. We walk through Robinson’s core idea, the sweet spot where natural talent meets personal passion, and why so many of us miss it thanks to narrow definitions of intelligence and a school system designed for the factory floor, not a creative economy. We dig into multiple intelligences beyond IQ, from emotional and interpersonal to kinesthetic and spatial, and talk about how broadening those metrics changes hiring, leadership, and self-belief. Creativity takes center stage as a practical skill for uncertainty, not a luxury, with real examples from my pivot into business projects and producing a documentary that pushed me past my comfort zone. We also get honest about limiting beliefs, the damage of low expectations, and the power of mentors and tribes who spot your spark and insist you fan it. I share the tools that helped me reinvent at midlife: auditing peak moments, naming skills not titles, aligning passion with marketable capabilities, and building communities that tell a truer story of your potential. If labels like smart and dumb have boxed you in, consider this your permission to redraw the map and find the work that feels like oxygen. If this conversation helps you see your own path a little clearer, follow the show, share it with a friend who needs a nudge, and leave a quick review telling us where talent and passion intersect for you. Your story might be exactly what someone else needs to hear.

    31 min
  8. 12/17/2025

    Ep. 11 - Fall 2025: Tragedy, Power Plays & Missed Priorities

    Headlines fought for attention all fall, but only a few moments truly shifted the ground. We open with the hardest one: the assassination of Charlie Kirk and what political violence steals from public life. You don’t have to share his views to feel the loss of a sharp, prepared voice who pushed hard debates onto campuses. When fear silences argument, fewer people step into the arena, and our civic muscles weaken. That is a cost no party should accept. From there, we walk through the 43-day federal shutdown, the longest on record, and the perverse incentives that made it possible. SNAP interruptions, FAA disruptions, and a month-plus of uncertainty set a new low bar for “toughness.” If a shutdown used to be the fire alarm everyone ran to put out, it’s now background noise leaders exploit to rally their bases. We talk about how that happened, why the wins were illusory, and what it would take to make governing outcomes, not optics, the metric again. Election night energy delivered predictable results: Democrats strong in blue-leaning states, momentum headlines, and fresh talk of flipping the House. We frame it as a treadmill, intense effort, little policy movement, then pivot to the story that ate the cycle: the Epstein files. The facts are grim and the unanswered questions real, but the frenzy drowned out the high-stakes work we keep postponing: a $38 trillion federal debt and rising interest costs, a stressed farm economy at harvest’s end, tariff policies acting like broad taxes without clear success metrics, and AI’s rapidly growing footprint of data centers, power draw, and jobs. These are solvable problems if we define goals, timelines, and tradeoffs. A surprising spark came from culture, with Billy Bob Thornton calling himself a “radical moderate” on a major show. That phrase captures the spirit we push for: argue hard from facts, measure what matters, and make deals that stick. If more of us reward that approach, by clicks, shares, and votes, shutdown theater loses its audience and real policy gains the stage.  Subscribe, share with a friend who’s tired of outrage loops, and leave a review with one priority you want on the 2026 agenda.

    31 min

Ratings & Reviews

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The Radical Moderate cuts through the noise with sharp, practical conversations about how we move forward as a country. Hosted by businessman and author Pat O’Brien, the show brings clarity, candor, and a willingness to challenge lazy thinking. Whether in business, politics, or culture, we need a fresh approach to how we address problems—and this podcast delivers just that. Every week, in just 30 minutes, Pat explores solutions that respect ideals but measure results. This is moderation with teeth: ideas that hold up over time.