The Catalyst Podcast

The Catalyst

The Catalyst is Chestnut Health Systems’ platform for sharing ideas, insights, and innovation that advance public health and strengthen systems of care. thecatalyst2.substack.com

  1. 1d ago

    Recovery, Resilience and Resurgence in Indian Country.

    Rod Robinson has spent more than 40 years in the helping profession, specializing in addiction recovery across Indian country. He has served as a therapist, administrator, educator, and policymaker for private provider groups, tribes, and both state and federal agencies. He led the Indian Alcohol and Drug Abuse office at SAMHSA and most recently directed the Pathway to Wellness Recidivism Reduction Initiative for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. He is now leading Lifeline, LLC, which provides coaching, counseling, and consulting. Highlights: Why “Indian” and “Indian country” are preferred terms, vs. “Native American,” particularly in the lower 48 states.  The education system’s poor representation of Indigenous stories and the need for greater balance and for challenging negative stereotypes.  The 7th Generation prophecy, explaining that the current generation’s role is to prepare the environment for healers to emerge among all nations—work reflected in efforts such as the Eastern Shoshone Tribe’s Doya Natsu Healing Center. The broad range of customs among Indian tribes, and the need to approach each with respect and deference.  How alcohol was historically used as a tool to gain power and land, and the root causes of alcoholism across Indian communities.  The shift from conventional treatment models toward more innovative approaches centered on healing and teaching. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecatalyst2.substack.com

    Recovery, Resilience and Resurgence in Indian Country.
  2. Oct 20

    Finding the Groove: On Trust, Listening, and Leading Through Change

    Joining us on this executive leadership edition of the Catalyst Podcast is Stephen DaRe. The theme of our conversation is how a former Navy musician, recovering CFO (his words), and the CEO of Chimes - a $300 million dollar nonprofit with 3,500 employees serving more than 26 thousand people with disabilities and mental health challenges across Maryland, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, New Jersey, North Carolina, and Washington, D.C - builds trust, develops people, and leads through constant change. We discuss:  A theme that weaves through the conversation is how his background as a musician informs his leadership style.  His journey from the military, a career in managed healthcare finance, to crossing over into nonprofit leadership at Chimes, including several pivotal moments and their impact on his career arc.   The challenges of managing a highly complex organization with four separate lines of business: special education schools, traditional intellectual disability services, day habilitation programs, and federal contracts through the AbilityOne program (which provides extensive janitorial, custodial, and facilities maintenance operations through federal partnerships, making them one of the region's largest employers of people with severe disabilities). When he stopped being “the numbers person who happens to lead” and started being “a leader who happens to understand numbers,” and the implications of this transformation. The influence of Patrick Lencioni’s work (“Five Dysfunctions of a Team”), emphasizing the importance of vulnerability-based trust, accountability, and shared vision in building effective teams. The lessons he’s drawn from General Stanley McChrystal’s writing on special operations and how they shaped his leadership philosophy.   Empathy and listening as core leadership skills, and how they tie back to being a musician (to be precise, anchoring bands as a drummer and percussionist).   How he earns his team’s trust, what they need to do to earn his, the importance of shared values, including the organization’s core value: “having fun” (which, as you’d expect, is more than playing Twister in the break room).    Bonus content for those gearing up for Halloween: Steve shares the terror of crossing the Chesapeake Bay Bridge,  considered one of the scariest bridges in the country.  This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecatalyst2.substack.com

    Finding the Groove: On Trust, Listening, and Leading Through Change
  3. Sep 30

    Using AI in Primary Care and the Primacy of Human Judgment

    Today’s guest is returning champ, Dr. Michael Dennis, the Chief Research Officer for Chestnut Health Systems’ Lighthouse Institute (LI) and a Senior Research Psychologist, who is making his record-setting fourth appearance on the Catalyst pod. The conversation focuses on a presentation Mike recently gave on "Using AI in Primary Care" for OSF HealthCare St. Joseph Medical Center in Bloomington, Illinois. We discuss:  Why this is an important and timely topic for primary care and residency training—not just from a tech perspective, but from a clinical, ethical, and operational one.  What residents need to understand before they start using these tools every day.  The difference between appropriate uses and those that should remain off-limits.  Why AI can serve as an excellent administrative assistant, but can never replace human judgment…and that it must be properly supervised and constrained to reliable medical sources like PubMed and JAMA rather than open-source internet content The concerns that primary care is underestimating, including bias, deskilling, privacy breaches, and loss of patient trust or empathy.  Why practices need to ask who trained the model, what data it uses, who owns the output, how well it performs, and what guardrails exist.  How and what Mike uses in his daily work. including meeting notes, clinical applications, and training simulations. We take a momentary “doomer-adjacent” detour, but quickly get the conversation back on track. This is a must for anyone in the field looking for a succinct tour d’horizon of the issues to consider in incorporating AI in your practice. You can download a summary of Mike's presentation here.  It includes a chart listing common AI applications in order of popularity as of this writing.  This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecatalyst2.substack.com

    Using AI in Primary Care and the Primacy of Human Judgment
  4. Sep 22

    The Founder Mindset: Ken Kaufman’s Playbook for Successful Leadership Across Four Decades

    Joining us on this executive leadership edition of the Catalyst Podcast is Ken Kaufman, widely recognized as one of the foremost authorities on healthcare industry change, with a focus on disruption and the emerging business principles of the Internet economy. Ken is a highly sought‑after speaker and prolific author. In his spare time, he also serves as managing director partner at Kaufman Hall, which for over 40 years has provided independent, data‑driven insights to help clients fulfill their missions, achieve their goals, and tackle their toughest challenges. Ken reflects on the bedrock leadership principles that have guided Kaufman Hall for over four decades and how his own leadership style has evolved. He draws a distinction between two modes of leadership — the “founder” mindset and the “manager” mindset — making the case for the former, characterized by a more hands‑on, non‑hierarchical approach. He highlights the critical role humility plays in making him a more responsive and effective leader, and what he looks for when cultivating the next generation of leaders. Ken also explores how AI challenges traditional organizational structures and why it will push leaders toward a more flexible, founder‑oriented mindset. When asked about a leader outside of business whom he admires, Ken — a long‑time Chicago Bulls fan — surprised us by analyzing and celebrating the leadership style of Jalen Brunson, the star guard of the newly crowned NBA champion New York Knicks. A winner at the high school and college levels, Brunson was overlooked by NBA teams until he had the chance to lead his franchise to its first championship in 53 years — a remarkable story that Ken believes every HR organization should study when evaluating talent. An insightful and deeply engaging conversation for anyone interested in the challenges of leading organizations, especially through periods of flux and uncertainty. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecatalyst2.substack.com

    The Founder Mindset: Ken Kaufman’s Playbook for Successful Leadership Across Four Decades
  5. Sep 14

    Trust and Accountability: Chestnut’s CEO Puneet Leekha Kicks off a New Podcast Series on Executive Leadership

    Our conversation with Chestnut Health Systems’ CEO Puneet Leekha kicks off our new Executive Leadership series of Catalyst Podcasts - conversations with some of the most innovative and successful leaders in the field, on everything from their evolution as leaders to the unique challenges of leading their organizations in this environment, and what they look for in cultivating the next generation of leaders.  Puneet begins the conversation by explaining why leadership is a particularly important and timely topic, given the multidimensional challenges organizations face in today’s environment. He reflects on his evolution as a leader and describes his leadership style as “high trust and high accountability”: give people real autonomy, then be clear about priorities, expectations, and communication. He speaks about three formative influences on his leadership approach: the importance of judgment, intellectual curiosity, and strong people skills.    The conversation turns to AI’s reach across roles, structure, and decision-making, the positives it can bring in making work more efficient, and concerns about it diminishing the human aspects, which are intrinsic to the work that Chestnut Health Services does.  He closes by citing the leaders he looks up to: Hubert Joly (purpose, people, and performance), Satya Nadella (building a culture of learning), Warren Buffett (hire well and give people room), and his father, whose hard work, perseverance, and humility shaped him as much as any executive model.   Puneet packs a lot of insight and inspiration in sharing his leadership perspective, experiences, and journey – a perfect way to launch what is sure to be a fascinating series with the most thoughtful, forward-thinking leaders in the field.  This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecatalyst2.substack.com

    Trust and Accountability: Chestnut’s CEO Puneet Leekha Kicks off a New Podcast Series on Executive Leadership

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